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CROSSBONES
20-01-2009, 07:25 PM
I have just bought a clone 800 from that auction site. I am running Nablio blackhole 06 in flash.

After the box has been on for around 20 mins or so it just knocks off, nothing on the display, just the ethernet lights on at the rear.

If I unplug for 5 mins all returns ok.

I suspect I have been sold a dud box!:9898:

xanadu
20-01-2009, 07:32 PM
Have you tried another image?

Clones are usually a waste of money.

pixxotta
20-01-2009, 07:38 PM
make sure its not overheating

CROSSBONES
20-01-2009, 07:41 PM
There`s no HDD in there and its in an open space, so shouldnt over heat.

I will try another image, but I suspect it`s faulty. Any ideas what the problem could be?

A-SAT
20-01-2009, 07:49 PM
I will try another image, but I suspect it`s faulty. Any ideas what the problem could be?

I don't think it's faulty, I think the problem is it's a clone mate.

Doesn't the latest secondstage bootloader have a clone checker now?

Instead of killing bootloaders, this time, I think they've gone for a more subtle approach.

CROSSBONES
20-01-2009, 08:03 PM
Only if you use the latest barry allen and use images containing bootloaders 70.

That is why im using black hole 06

kegnkiwi
20-01-2009, 08:11 PM
I think v6 used bootloader 70 mate. I remember it came out just after the pureflash version. This is taken from v6 image thread.

"You can install this image to flash, without any further support.
You can install this image to multiboot. In this case, you must have the Nabilosat Pure Flash 29DEC2008 installed to flash. This is necessary because the flash image must include the second stage #70
Nabilosat DM 800 Pure Flash dated 29 December 2008 is available here"

ki

CROSSBONES
20-01-2009, 08:43 PM
I think v6 used bootloader 70 mate. I remember it came out just after the pureflash version. This is taken from v6 image thread.


Yes you are quite right m8!

Ill try LT sp4.

Any other images with 69 bootloaders?

kegnkiwi
20-01-2009, 08:57 PM
You can load any old image and load the bootloader seperatley. What about nablio v5 or v3 then load bootloader 69. Lt images as you have said. Gemani maybe?? Pli image.

goran
20-01-2009, 09:39 PM
There`s no HDD in there and its in an open space, so shouldnt over heat.

I will try another image, but I suspect it`s faulty. Any ideas what the problem could be?

Incorrect, sadly... Tests show it has a HW flaw...:smash:

CROSSBONES
20-01-2009, 10:12 PM
I now have LT sp4 installed, and not crashed yet.:respect-001:

But dont realy like this image, I want blackhole 07;)

never mind at least its working, and I only paid £250 ;)

kegnkiwi
20-01-2009, 10:33 PM
Lt images always seem a little glitchy to me, why not try nabilo v5 mate.

CROSSBONES
20-01-2009, 10:50 PM
Lt images always seem a little glitchy to me, why not try nabilo v5 mate.

Yes will give blackhole 05 a go, dont like LT at all

x5
20-01-2009, 11:55 PM
I now have LT sp4 installed, and not crashed yet.:respect-001:

But dont realy like this image, I want blackhole 07;)

never mind at least its working, and I only paid £250 ;)

if u realy want blackhole 07 use this with SC69

CROSSBONES
21-01-2009, 01:46 AM
So I can just flash with the image you uploded x5?

x5
21-01-2009, 02:34 AM
So I can just flash with the image you uploded x5?


yes m8
its the NAB V7 with SC69 works ok in clones

DeepDiver
21-01-2009, 06:47 AM
So I can just flash with the image you uploded x5?


yes m8
its the NAB V7 with SC69 works ok in clones

Yes, x5 is quite right. As I mentioned somewhere else :D, you can install v07 to flash, and install just secondstage #69.
But I am not sure it is a long term solution. I am afraid at some point you will not be able to use the new images anymore.
But for time being, you can enjoy Nabilosat v07 with that solution.

PieFacE
21-01-2009, 02:41 PM
Just out of pure curiosity....

Is it the fact it's a clone that makes it not work?

Or is it the fact that developers of images do not want their software on clones so they make it unable to work?

If so.... why?

DeepDiver
21-01-2009, 02:52 PM
Just out of pure curiosity....

Is it the fact it's a clone that makes it not work?

Or is it the fact that developers of images do not want their software on clones so they make it unable to work?

If so.... why?

No, image developers have nothing to do with this. Nabilosat images are made by hobbysts. We do not bother whether they run on clones. But if they do not run on clones, it is not Nabilosat fault.

You must learn that the images are developed on a basis, called CVS, which is developed by DMM.
Updated images are developed on compiled updates of CVS. If the new CVS includes features that will not run on clones, developers cannot stop it. They can only stop development, and you stay with an old image.

Do you know that new versions of Barry Allen are checking your MAC address ? Do you know that this is clone detection system ? Do you know that these versions of BA will stop working if they detect a clone ?

PieFacE
21-01-2009, 03:01 PM
I never knew any of that actually... i'm fairly new to the whole scene, but very interested!

Thanks for the info! :D

goran
21-01-2009, 07:42 PM
DMM did worse things than that! Which is why I stay away from them as far as I can - never to my home!!!:001_005:

CROSSBONES
26-01-2009, 12:56 AM
ok, looking further into the clone issue, I now think it is an original, as the

lower casing is the same as the clones.

All inside components etc are the same as the original!

loveman
26-01-2009, 10:32 PM
so does it have glue over the sim card? And it does not have a heatsink? Also, is the power supply the same as the fake or the genuine?

techmob
27-01-2009, 10:56 PM
i would be suprised if you got a original dm800 off the auction site for 250 especially when they are new and like gold dust atm because of the weak £

but you may of been jammy, unlikely tho

xanadu
27-01-2009, 11:00 PM
i would be suprised if you got a original dm800 off the auction site for 250 especially when they are new and like gold dust atm because of the weak £

but you may of been jammy, unlikely tho

There was one for auction last week nearly new, that went for £250.

paul01609
27-01-2009, 11:01 PM
think mines going on soon in the next few weeks lost all intrest in it

sonic1
27-01-2009, 11:10 PM
think mines going on soon in the next few weeks lost all intrest in it

Why ?
Best box I have ever owned.

techmob
27-01-2009, 11:52 PM
There was one for auction last week nearly new, that went for £250.

if it is legit then it's a bargain which don't come along very often

CROSSBONES
28-01-2009, 12:57 AM
Well guys I don't want to rub it in:respect-044: but it is an original, silver power pack,

glue on sim, chip on pcb of modem, no heat sink.

Fitted a fan and its running sweet as a nut with Barry Allen and nab 07 on USB.

Its the 2nd dreambox bargain I've had, as I only paid £200 for my 7025 with 2x dvb s tuners, he also threw in another 4 receivers from Echostar to koan.

my 800`s item no 190278377764

techmob
28-01-2009, 01:09 AM
well done!!

very lucky indeed!

CROSSBONES
28-01-2009, 01:20 AM
thanks techmob, but as the saying go`s pleasure and pain.

The back boiler of my coal fire(yes coal lol) has gone and leaked all over my front room last week!


So I am without central heating, until the insurance sorts it out:001_07:

paul01609
28-01-2009, 04:54 PM
Why ?
Best box I have ever owned.

no really interested in it any more its been put away for last 4 weeks

sonic1
28-01-2009, 05:01 PM
no really interested in it any more its been put away for last 4 weeks

I am sure you want have any problems selling it on then m8 :respect-051:

paul01609
28-01-2009, 05:05 PM
what u think will get for 800hd with wireless games adapter and smargo card reader?

sonic1
28-01-2009, 05:27 PM
Worth £350 as a complete set.
Smargo is now being sold for over £50 on it's own.

paul01609
28-01-2009, 05:33 PM
think its time for satpimps to have a for sale section,instead of stuff been put on auction site that are fake

techmob
28-01-2009, 06:03 PM
that would be good.. would help out so many people