Good news for icord owner regarding Diablo

[Masoud]

:king-041:
I will report in 1 hour, just testing now and I've been successful :D
it's about dibalo and conax. thor and 16e ;)

[Masoud]

To: Tmull - 20humax08 - minek10 - and the other owners of Humax icord HD who have problem with a diablo cam and icord.(Underworld firmware)
finally I did managed to get diablo to work with all the Canal Digital and all the HD channel on Thor 0.8w.
I'm not sure about the DigitAlb on Eutelsat W2 at 16.0°E but i will test it soon an will report here.

solution:
get a M2 plus card and it will work like a dream with your diablo and your Humax icord HD,I know this may sound crazy but it works.someone had to risk to spend £50 to have a test and I did it.now my icord is alive again :)
at least you don't need to change your diablo just get a M2 plus card and
that set!! off to go
any question please ask.
I'm so excited now :D

[Tmull]

Masoud, Thank you for your presistance. It seems good news and I was going to post some questions about cards as this is a new field to me. Please keep up the good work and thank you for keeping us in the frameTMULL

[pipino]

shame you will be happy for a short time as they are changing cards and the M2 card will be a ice scraper soon

[Masoud]

well then it's not only for me it's for all of us even diablo will stop and the other cams and receivers!!

[Masoud]

As I promised I've done the test on 16e,
DigitAlb- ok

[Tmull]

Masoud, Any chance of a more recent update? I want to follow your route if it as successfull as you say. Really only interested in the HD channel side of things. Would it be ok to PM you? TMULL

[Tmull]

Masoud, Where are you when we need you? TMULL

[Masoud]

Masoud, Where are you when we need you? TMULL

Hi mate,
I'm back :respect-048:
of course you can send me pm,
I've been very busy so that couldn't check this forum but from tonight I will try to check this forum 2 time a day:respect-013:
what can I do m8?

[uki]

glad to see you back.

[Tmull]

Masoud, Welcome back. I did send you a PM , As you know I am or more correctly was active on about four forums mostly both looking and where possible offering help on the iCord. No official backing or for that matter no non-official backing either. Most people involved have given up and I dont blame them. You are now one of only about four people who are willing to share your experience of the iCord. I too gave up on it and bought myself a Technomare 6900 HD box that is an absolute pleasure to use after my struggles with the iCord. But when you started both looking for and offering help I decided to ge t back on board and offer my tupence worth. I now hardly ever turn on the Humax but if you still are opening the HD channels on Thor with the M+2 card I would invest.I have described the iCord as an expensive heap of junk but if investing a few quid in an M+2 card would bring it back to life I would do it.If any member spends that amount of money on one of these after reading our posts I would suggest he is beyond help.A German forum dedicated to this box is a waste of space. For any one following our posts would you mind posting an update on the M+2 card here. TMULL

[Masoud]

Hi Tmull,
I know how active you are about your icord and i think you are doing the right thing,I've seen your messages on more then 4 forums :).
personally I've never liked tecnomate. they might be a good stb but i don't like its design and the way you find the channels on it,the menu, favorite list...
ok now I can explain every little experience i've had with my icord for you and all the other members, hope that helps.
right now i can confirm if you get a M2 card plus you will be able to get all Conax SD channels on thor (0.8w) to use in your diablo slot1 plus these HD channels listed below:
Nat Geo HD
CANAL+ FILM HD
SVT HD
Silver HD
or any HD channels on less then 30000 symbol rates.
there are also some other HD channels which diablo with M2 card plus won't open them like Discovery HD and my favorite channel history HD but there is why to get them with M2 card plus which i will explain later on..
so if you get a M2 card plus, you can load Underwolrd 1.29 or older version to to your diablo to get DigiTv ( with new keys.bin file )plus all the Conax channels if you put your card to your diablo slot (CAS).

let's back to the Discovery HD and the rest,
apparently diablo has some issue with symbol rates more then 28000, i'm not sure though but i'm pretty sure diablo is not a HD cam. the only reason is, it won't open any HD channels with M2 card plus on 30000 symbol rates on my icord.may be I'm worng !
so what i've done is:
i have purchased an official Dual cam (irdeto I/II - Conax 4.00e part number 904074) on e b a y for £8 and it's incredible!!! it works with all channels on 30000 symbol rates and I get all the HD channels except Animal planet with that cam plus M2card plus! e.g discovery hd, history hd ...

http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/products/25/36/tech/CarTvTuner/CI_Slot.html
I'm sure if you get a conax MPEG4 cam instead of the one i have purchased it will work too. Although it's expansive,
have a look:
http://cgi.****.co.uk/OFFICIAL-CONAX-MPEG4-CAM-IDEAL-FOR-DIGITALB-MORE-NEW_W0QQitemZ200303868279QQcmdZVi ewItemQQptZUK_ConEle_SatCableFree view_RL?hash=item200303868279&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65 %3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

and now Eutelsat 16.0E ( DigitAlb )
it was ok until a few days ago then it stopped on both diablo and M2card plus. it happened before but was fixed by new update for both diablo and M2card plus.
apparently it's fixed on diablo UW161 at the moment but we have no update for M2 card plus by now so it's down !!! i think this is normal because to many people believe that updates will be available for dibalo at first and then M2 card plus.
have a look here:
https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=102835

well this is everything i knew and experienced with icord, diablo and official conax cam
at the moment i'm using my cams into my humax simultaneously and i get all the nagra2 and conax plus the hd channels, np at all.
i've spend nearly £500 to get those channels but they are all available on sky as well :)
with that money i could get more then a year subescription for sky
that's why i think i'm 100% crazy and if my wife finds out she will kill me :D
but i like it in experimental way...
regards.
Masoud

[Masoud]

oh and you will be able to program it (M2 card plus) with your C A S 3 :)

[Tmull]

Masoud, That is an explaination and a half. Thank you for the trouble and time you have spent on it. I will go for the card and struggle on with the Diablo for the moment. I have drawn attention to your posts to a fellow member of two other forums as he is pushing hard for improvements on the EPG side of things. He is also bringing pressure on certain quarters to get the Linux part of the iCord opened up.It is a pity more iCord owners dont come on board to try and improve support for this box. Perhaps in these recessioary times Humax are selling thousands of these boxes,but proberly not many members here are that foolish. Again thank you for your update. TMULL

[Masoud]

Good luck mate! and hope they can do something about that EPG thing..

[Masoud]

hi
new update ! 03/03/09
just to let you know Digitalb and Canal are fixed on M2 card plus.
enjoy!
https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=103932

[Tmull]

Masoud, Thank you for the update. Am awaiting my M2+ card which I ordered yesterday. I also took the oppertunity to experiment with a ***** card.Will let you know how I get on. TMULL

[Masoud]

thanks TMULL
I'll be waiting for your message..
Masoud

[Tmull]

Post gone for today,so hopefully Monday. Thanks again for the update. I have a very slight feeling that the message is beginning to filter through to Humax .De. Apparently they have ditched their LCD tv side of things and the CEO,who promised first day on the Dr.Dish programme that the iCord would be the media center of the futhur,has apparently issued a statement that they would consetrate their minds on improving their sat boxes.Suggestions that maybe improved EPG would be first looked at. I am reading between the lines of a debate taking place on the German forum dedicated to the iCord. Proberly the adverse publicity this box is receiving on most of the forums is beginning to pay off. In the meantime I am enjoying myself with the supburb Technomate 6900. TMULL

[watchskies]

Hi TMULL and Masoud

I have been struggling with the icord-HD since UW 1.31 :frown: prior to that all was ok

Luckily I had my PR-HD1000 to fallback on

I have been informed that new firmware 1.00.15 has been released for testing so maybe this will help :rolleyes:

If not I will go for a true conax cam and the M2 card

Can you PM me the card you are testing as this has been edited out of the chain

I agree we need to stick together :respect-048:

[docsquires]

Hi Tmull,I have just read with Interest every thing you have writen ,above and I note that you refer to the Technomate 6900 as supburb, As I am thinking of changing my echostar ad 36001p Iwould ask what I could expect and would it be worth my while in changing given how few H. D. chanels are available your comments and advice would be greatly apreciated. Yours docsquires.

[Tmull]

Docsquires,I am an OAP and have been in the sat scene for about twenty years. For about fifteen of those years I was a Manhatton man,I still use the Starlight 6900 to drive my dish. Unfortunatly Manhatton went the way that Humax is gone now.T hat is to hell with the customers.we will just take their money but we have no intention of offering any support. Hence there has been no firmware support for my manhatton for at least four years. I got the iCord on the recomendation of the CEO of Humax.DE who said it was not only Linux based but would be the media center of the futhur. That was on the Dr. Dish English language programme before the iCord was released. I recorded the interview on to DVD and am surprised that the EU consumors association has not taken a case against him for misleading the public. To add insult to injury Dr Dish gave this box a recomendation with a star (whatever that means) This to me means the backhander culture that trives here in Ireland is alive and well in Germany as well. How could you recomend a box that was not even released and certainly was not tested. Stay as far away from the iCord as you can. As I am getting on a bit I just had to get a better box. My interest is in films,do***entrys,music and sport,so as one of my mates was upgrading his Tecnomate 6900combo to the super model I got the combo at a good price. My mate paid good money for his new Technomate Super ,mainly for blind scan but is very disapointed as he believes it is not in the specs as it says on the box. Compared to the iCord with its very limited menu the Tech.is a very simple box both to set up and to use. Firmware and softcam upgrades on a regular basis and a great helpful membership of Technomate owners on this and on other forums. I posed a few questions when I first got the box and was delighted with the response.Pose a question about the iCord and you would be ignored. I have tried to help as many as I could but I feel too many members who own one are too embarressed to admite it. One other box that I am familar with is the Topfield 7710 Hd. My brother has one and only for my bargain Technomate I was tempted to go the Topfield way. One thing before you buy,look at a few forums and read as much as you can about what you intend to buy. I have had messages from people who said they bought the iCord after following my posts on the box.I did not realise that there was people that daft around. Good luck with your new box. I hope this is helpful. TMULL

[mrbleu500]

I would echo TMull's comments about the TM6900 docsquires, I looked at the iCord when I was looking to upgrade my echostar AD3000via, and saw TMull's posts here and elsewhere, especially the problems he had with support for the box outside of Germany.

In short, the TM is a great box, not the best, but very easy to use (my 6/8 year old kids love it) and first class support from other users and more importantly Technomate themselves. Just look at the frequency of updated firmware, softcams, etc... few boxes have the same level of support.

If you want a more capable box, such as the DM800, you are going to be entering a world of pain in the short term as you get to grips with it...

With a diablo and the TM6900, I get more than 30 HD channels, about the same as you would get from uncle Rupe, but without the 700 quid a year subs.

[Masoud]

To watchskies,
before you buy any cam please look at this URL because all the conax cam are not compatible with M2card plus, here it is: https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=103324
i have got Dual cam and it's perfect with icord and M2card plus.
good luck!

[Tmull]

Hi guys, struggled at first to load files on to M2+ card with Cas 3 but finally got the hang of things. Very mixed results. Card works ok in the iCord but only with the T-Rex (Dragon ) cam. complete failure in the Diablo. Nagra and C***x opening on 1w but I am not receiving a signal on the HD channels. This maybe because the channels are as downloaded over twelve months ago and now are proberly on dead transponders. I will try a rescan shortly but I must first tweek my dish as a storm has me slightly off the ark. I tried the Diablo with the UW 162 and the new UW 163 but no use with the card.The good news is the Diablo is opening all on 1w in the Tecnomate 6900 combo.As I am boatbuilding at this time it will be the end of the week before I can get around to my sat problems. Talk of a new firmware update for the iCord. Does anyone have any information on it? Got an email from the German forum about it but it is in German so I await someone to translate.TMULL

[Masoud]

Hi Tmull, got your message now i think i need to mention a few things for you to get your diablo to work with icord and m2+.
firstly, you need to load your diablo with UW 129 or 128 then go to cam menu>CAS, on the list you should turn on Conax ON - the rest OFF.
then go to the Configuration>caids file and select either CAIDS or OTHER ,make sure the one you selected has Conax on its database.
now it's done and off to go,it should work fine.
try with Nat Geo HD on Thor <<12188MHz,V,25000,3/4****
let me know the result
about the new firmware- personally I did not check the new firmware but i think we should have the same problem as we had before because the compatibility of diablo and icord is something to do with new UW files not icord firmware..
Masoud

[Tmull]

Masoud, Did what you recommended and success at last. Now for my dilema part.I have more or less not bothered with the iCord for awhile as my Tecnomate 6900 gives me more than the iCord when I have the latest softcam and patch on board and also the Diablo. Compared to the tecnomate I find the iCord not very user friendly. So after I got the iCord working as you said I reverted the cam back to UW 163 and returned it to the 6900. As the M2 plus is working in the T-Rex and opening up the channels on Thor , I am using this combination in the iCord. Complicated I know but as I have an external HDD connected to the Tecnomate and the internal one in the iCord and both connected to my Sony HDD dvd recorder I have all the choices I need. As I could never work out how to use the second tuner in the iCord I just disconnected one feed from the iCord and diverted it to the Tecnomate. As I am using my Manhatton to drive my dish I have a quad lnb. I still have one spare output on it but my cable run is too long to bother running another one. I cannot tell the difference in picture quality between the two sets but I believe the tuner in the iCord to be more sencetive than the one in the Technomate. My dish is just slightly off the arc at the moment and sometimes I lose picture on the Tecnomate. Switch to the iCord and picture is still there. It could have been such a good box. Maybe they rushed it out before they had developed it properly. TMULL

[little devil]

so here we are Tmull I still have my i cord and in my case very pleased with my unit it looks the part :) so where do i get this m2+ from? cheap and cheap diablo ??

[Tmull]

Little Devil, Nice to hear from you again. I try to support the Sponsors of the forum. As my funds are tight and I belong to a few forums I go for the best deal that I can get. You would be amazed at the P&P prices to Ireland even for small items.I believe the M2 plus is good value for what it does. Good luck .TMULL

[Masoud]

Hi m8
glad you've got it to work :) .actually i've noticed that the icord tuner is perfect and much stronger then the other STB which I had.I've put the new firmware on my icord but by now i didn't check that if it works with diablo or not because since yesterday i'm facing a stupid problem with History HD, It's scrambled!!! i've deleted all channels and whatever i can do such as restoring to the factory setting or re-scan the channel .... but still scrambled!!!
i'm just wondering why all the other channel like animal planet HD and the rest in the same Freq works fine except my fav channel history hd, i haven't done anything to it!! just turn to scrambled by it self !!
oh and would put space - between the name of the card you are testing
i can only see ***** instead of card name.
and would you confirm that which HD and SD channels you can get with T-rex (dragon) and M2+ card with icord on thor for me please.
thanks mate

[Tmull]

Masoud , As far as I know I have all the SD channels but no Hd channels.As far as I know the T-Rex cannot open Hd channels The cam opens up the Nagra channels on its own but not the C***x ones. Put the card into the cam and they all open up. It would be nice to get the iCord doing what other STBs do but I can live with its limitations for now. Where did you get the new firmware from? The card that cannot be mentioned is a waste of money.As I cannot mention it here I sent you a PM about it. Sorry I cannot be more help to you but as it seems we are getting to a conclusion about our iCord problems I am sure that I speak for other members as well when I say a very big thank you for your input. It must be obvious to the folk in Humax that their box is problematic by now. In these recessionary times i wonder are they selling many? TMULL

[Masoud]

Tmull,thanks m8 and here is the link to download that new firmware..
http://www.hdtvsilo.de/downloads.html?func=fileinfo&id=15
Masoud

[Tmull]

Thank you for the link. Firmware downloaded and installed but I do not know what improvement if any it makes. My son has now given up on the iCord having placed an order for a Tecnomate 6800 HD and an M2Plus card. TMULL