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harshy
08-02-2009, 01:07 AM
Hi guys,

I know its possible to view 4:2:2 feeds using VLC, is it possible to do with HD 4:2:2, a lot of European Tour feeds are in this format, or is this a limitation with this box?

OK, thanks again,


harshy

jonc
08-02-2009, 05:07 AM
No the DM800 will not do 4:2:2 , so as you say stream back to the PC and watch it there.

harshy
08-02-2009, 10:09 AM
No the DM800 will not do 4:2:2 , so as you say stream back to the PC and watch it there.

yeah I know you have to stream it back to PC to make it work, but can you do with HD 4:2:2 which is the question :)

OK, thanks again,


harshy

jonc
08-02-2009, 01:58 PM
HD 4:2:2 - care to tell me more?

Do you mean 4:2:2 mpeg4 (no such thing), do you mean H264 4:2:2 no such thing (per say) So I am a tad confused how to answer this other than how I did.

HD streaming on all e2 boxes is no where near as good as the zapstream application used in PLi E1 (and others) no matter the image. But it can only get better with time.

For all HD sports / news / event feeds I have seen here to date are all in raw 4:2:2 with the HD logos in some cases for re-broadcast to the local markets. Even the old Tandberg alteia's here see the so called HD 4:2:2 :)

harshy
08-02-2009, 02:55 PM
hello not sure how to explain :)

today I am watching the Fed Cup feed on 4e which is 4:2:2 and HD and this works on my PC

but I tried with European Golf feeds and this dosen't work for some reason, indeed some HD channels never appear on the Enigma2 interface like Sly UK, or Sly It, I hope this makes sense, BTW HD streaming is flawless here on the channels that do work, but its machine and network dependant I guess.

OK, thanks,


harshy

jonc
08-02-2009, 03:14 PM
so it is raw 4:2:2 as I said with a HD logo(if there at all) for local re-distribution (normal stuff).

RABBY
08-02-2009, 03:18 PM
There use to be a Plugin for the dreambox years ago for [ 4:2:2 ] Feeds?? Cannot accually think I had it Working?? Probely the only way is using a [ Skystar HD PCI Card ] In your Computer:)

harshy
08-02-2009, 03:19 PM
I see ok that makes sense :)

I'll try with the next European Golf feed when its on, cheers :)

harshy
08-02-2009, 03:21 PM
There use to be a Plugin for the dreambox years ago for [ 4:2:2 ] Feeds?? Cannot accually think I had it Working?? Probely the only way is using a [ Skystar HD PCI Card ] In your Computer:)

yes you can see 4:2:2 feeds, but some are like HD/DVB-s2 and 4:2:2, maybe this is not possible as yet.

jonc
08-02-2009, 03:27 PM
or the old Tandberg alteia's if you have a spare 1,000 quid for a second hand one ;)

The pci card is another way to go - I use the S2's here and others for the autoscanning we do for satcodx.com - they works a ripper too. If you see Bangkok autoscan that is me ..

You can also mutlicast these feeds back to the DM boxes as well with tsreader and vlc so you watch it on your TV (long winded but never the less works)

harshy
08-02-2009, 03:31 PM
ah cool so not something thats possible with dm800 but with PCI card or expensive Tandberg receiver, ok thanks for info :)

jonc
08-02-2009, 03:36 PM
or

1. save stream to PC HD with DM800 (transcode to 4:2:0 mpeg2)
2. Use VLC plugin to play it back on DM800 to TV

But ... as you said before for this to happen, you need a good network to do this and there is up to a 25second lag

satwyn
08-02-2009, 04:20 PM
I used codaco pro receiver for 4.2.2 sd bought brand new for £50 from the usiall auction site even my diablo cam worked ok nice piece of kit even has blind scan

kebien
08-02-2009, 05:52 PM
HD 4:2:2 - care to tell me more?

Do you mean 4:2:2 mpeg4 (no such thing), do you mean H264 4:2:2 no such thing (per say) So I am a tad confused how to answer this other than how I did.

:)

There is a subtype high profile 4:2:2 for mpeg 4,according to do***ents,and it is used,of course,why wouldn't be?

_http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/formats/fdd/fdd000217.shtml

And yes,as long as the player is capable of render this type of video,it will work.
I do have some feeds like that,and vlc plays them. (my pc is too slow for this,so it crash the player,regardless,the player is capable.)
(some of the files are posted in the azboxHD section,you can try them if you like)

harshy
08-02-2009, 09:42 PM
which files are these?

kebien
08-02-2009, 10:03 PM
Some 4:2:2 SD and some 4:2:2 HD.
People was saying azboxhd was 4:2:2 capable,I posted some files for them to try.
You can try them too,just search for my posts.