Getting nothing atall

[adam965]

I have a major issue here.

Professionally installed motorised dish.

Blackhole Enigma 2 nilesat 0.7 on DM800

I have updated satellites.xml and my channel list.

I go to any channel on 28.2e and get nothing, go to 19.2e and get nothing. In sat finder, i go to 28.2e and get 0% SNR 33% AGC 0 BER.

I am using a fairly long run of coaxial (22mtrs) , however its high quality coax and it does light up the motor and the guy who installed me has done many installations before.

Moteck 2100 using Diseqc - its not a USALS motor.

increased voltage = YES

anybody know why im picking up nothing?

Before hand, i managed to pick up quite alot, however im getting nothing now, so i know it was working before hand as i got things between 30w and 42e without problems

[AJR]

and it does light up the motor

So the motor is moving .. but nothing from the lnb.

Steps in order.

1st thing to look at would be the coax link between the motor and the lnb.

2nd thing to do would be to see if there is voltage at the lnb.

3rd thing would be to suspect the lnb.

But was it working before you updated satellites.xml and channel list.... or was the updating that caused the problem, if so then check lnb type

[adam965]

well it was working, and i put the box in to standby and went out - came back and there was nothing when i moved to thor from 28.2e so went back to 28.2e and nothing - so i looked around the web and seen that it could be the sat file so i updated that, and channel lists.

The LNB is working as it was tested by the installer - he said its 100%

[saintomer1866]

try likra's settings (green button, yellow button, addons download manager, enigma2 settings, E2-motor@likra)
St.O

[adam965]

ive tried those settings, and im still getting nothing. and ive went through loads of transponders too

In the corner though, the "sat finder" picture that flashes when the dish is moving, is still flashing 2 minutes after i "moved" from 19.2e to 0.8w thor.....

COULD it be the motor that isnt compatable with the box that is causing this problem after all?

Motor worked before but the fact that its not working now makes me wonder

And if it is the motor - is there any brand / make / model that is reccomended?

[techmob]

if your motor is setup with another dreambox or receiver for example, mine was setup with a dm500 and i noted down my motor positions

for example

1 - 28.2e
2-19.2e

etc

plugged the dm800 in and went to setup each satellite, so chose 28.2e put it as 001 location, then went to positioner setup and chose an active tp and told it to save in position 1

and got an instant signal when i changed to the channel on 28.2e, all my sats were setup that way without the pain of tuning them in as the motor already had the location/position saved

i did the same for 19.2e, 16e, 13e and 1w, they all matched up

so basically save your positions to match your old box if you can, for me it gave me instant signal when changing channels on sats without any tuning

hopefully this will allow you to move to each satellite via the channel list, so have a channel list loaded first

my dads setup has an issue where i can use it to move the motor via the already installed positions from the previous box, but i cannot manually power the motor from the dm800, the dm800 however works fine on my setup and my box has same prob on his motor setup

so does seem the dm800 is fussy

worth a try

[yesfan]

What setting are you using for your motor, goto xx or individual dish positions?

Your Moteck SG2100 should work with the dish positioner setting in the setup menu. Have you tried this yet?

[adam965]

What setting are you using for your motor, goto xx or individual dish positions?

Your Moteck SG2100 should work with the dish positioner setting in the setup menu. Have you tried this yet?

When i go to sat finder, it doesnt give me anything.

What i have set up is as follows (if i give a detailed list, it will probably show if i have made a mistake or not)

In reception settings of tuner
Config mode - advanced
Sat - 08=1WThor
voltage polarazation
tone band
use usals no
stored position 008
LNB 1
DiSEqC more 1.2
toneburst no (no idea what this is)
rest are no or none - longitude and lat are correct (as per google earth and dishpointer.com
increase voltage yes
Priority auto

leave there,
in sat finder - all 3 are at 0% with dish pointing to thor

In the past i have had it in the reception tuner

Config mode - advanced
Sat - All satellites 1
voltage polarazation
tone band
LNB 33
toneburst no
rest are no or none - longitude and lat are correct
Priority auto
increase voltage yes

Its my first actual motorised setup.

Its a mystery to me....

[adam965]

if your motor is setup with another dreambox or receiver for example, mine was setup with a dm500 and i noted down my motor positions

its my first ever box - i was told the DB was the best box to go with, so i went DM800 as it was HD, however i wonder if i made the right choice.

[yesfan]

Try this:

setup>service searching>tuner configuration> select tuner and click ok
then enter these settings:

configuration mode - simple
mode - positioner
then enter your long/lat

if your dish is setup correctly which it seems to be if you have been able to receive signals with a different box, and your motor is working ok this should work.

[adam965]

Try this:

setup>service searching>tuner configuration> select tuner and click ok
then enter these settings:

configuration mode - simple
mode - positioner
then enter your long/lat

if your dish is setup correctly which it seems to be if you have been able to receive signals with a different box, and your motor is working ok this should work.
Ive tried that, and it says "positioner:USALS" but my motor isnt a USALS motor, as it is a DiseQc motor :redface:

you guys probably think im a thicko here :redface: lol

[Totally plucked]

Ive tried that, and it says "positioner:USALS" but my motor isnt a USALS motor, as it is a DiseQc motor :redface:

you guys probably think im a thicko here :redface: lol

No we dont........but your motor does support usals (the name usals is tradmarked) so try the usals settings.

You will need to input your latitude and longitude settings for this to work so go to dishpointer website to find those and enter them in the setup, then it should work as long as your motor has been set up correctly by the installer of course.

[Totally plucked]

its my first ever box - i was told the DB was the best box to go with, so i went DM800 as it was HD, however i wonder if i made the right choice.

You did but only if you have the time to play around with the box. They are not eactly plug and play (or watch). Ive had mine for a week and I still havent got the internal card reader working. I have a DM500 also so Im not exactly new to Dreambox's but Im struggling with the DM800. Dont worry that you cant get it to work just now, you will............................. ..eventually.

[adam965]

No we dont........but your motor does support usals (the name usals is tradmarked) so try the usals settings.

You will need to input your latitude and longitude settings for this to work so go to dishpointer website to find those and enter them in the setup, then it should work as long as your motor has been set up correctly by the installer of course.

I went to dishpointer and got the lat and lon settings ( i wont put them here for the obvious) and i put the -x.xxx to west and saved it - but im still getting nothing

I just done a factory reset, so that if i have made any errors i have scrubbed them.

so far what i have done since the FR

Went through the startup - pic res etc... and during this, it asked me for to setup so i went simple and possisioner and put my lat and lon in to there and okayed it.

in the "choose tuner" part it has "Tuner A Alps BSBE2 (DVB-S2)

I then go to sat finder and select 19.2e and SNR 0% AGC 16% BER 0 on predefined - 10743,22000,h,5/6

i go out of there, and select a channel i know works - Astra HD + but nothing happens.

[Totally plucked]

Adam965 . When you say that your dish was "professionally installed" what receiver did the installer use to check the installation or was your dish just set up using a meter?

Lets not forget that in the end if your dish allignment is wrong you should get the installer back to do the job properly. Although if he didnt do it right in the first place.........................

But back to the mater in hand. For starters I am getting AstraHD clearly with 66% SNR (and my dish isnt setup correctly at the moment). Asuming that your dish has ben installed correctly it maybe that it has not been set up for usals but should work with Diseqc all the same.

Under menu/setup/service searching/positioner setup you can manually move the motor east and west, Try this to see if you can find something (theres a fine movemnt option too) and report back.

[adam965]

Adam965 . When you say that your dish was "professionally installed" what receiver did the installer use to check the installation or was your dish just set up using a meter?

Lets not forget that in the end if your dish allignment is wrong you should get the installer back to do the job properly. Although if he didnt do it right in the first place.........................

But back to the mater in hand. For starters I am getting AstraHD clearly with 66% SNR (and my dish isnt setup correctly at the moment). Asuming that your dish has ben installed correctly it maybe that it has not been set up for usals but should work with Diseqc all the same.

Under menu/setup/service searching/positioner setup you can manually move the motor east and west, Try this to see if you can find something (theres a fine movemnt option too) and report back.

The installer used a meter which when he put the dish to thor, his meter on thor it was blaring up at near 88% - then put the dish to astra 2 and it was blaring too.

I have done what you said, but everything is at 0%

I have included a screenshot for you to see (incase ive not done that correct)

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5015/screenshotk.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5500/usals.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8987/satfinder.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5174/tvlist.jpg

I know the box is working okay as i put a feed from my sky box, in to the DM and it worked perfectly

[Totally plucked]

Ahhhh you didnt say you had a sky box........well that should help.

So your sky box is connected to a minidish? So try connecting the Dreambox to the minidish set it to 28E and you should get something on FTA.

Likewise move your dish to 28E disconnect the Dreambox and connect the Skybox to the motorised dish. Again you should get something ......but I bet you wont!

[adam965]

Ahhhh you didnt say you had a sky box........well that should help.

So your sky box is connected to a minidish? So try connecting the Dreambox to the minidish set it to 28E and you should get something on FTA.

Likewise move your dish to 28E disconnect the Dreambox and connect the Skybox to the motorised dish. Again you should get something ......but I bet you wont!

Sorry i forgot to mention that at the start.

I know it has been said that my motor is compatable with the box but i wonder if it actually is.

I have had a look at the dish outside and it looks like it is pointing at thor when i have asked it to go to 28.2e

I know the box works as i watched the Man Utd game on ITV HD yesterday,

However the more quizzing problem actually comes in here

Installer goes up to the roof, phones down and says move to thor - meter on beeeeeeep, move to hotbird - same thing, hispasat - same thing.... so it worked and moved. He left and i sat and watched 13e, 19.2e and 28.2e then turned off the box, and went out. Came back and moved to thor and since then its been empty - never had anything.

If all that makes sence then yey....

You're right that i dont get anytihng on the sky box, as ive tried that - which means the motor isnt moving

I guess i have been walking in circles here.......

So, if it is the motor at fault, which i now suspect that it is (or could it be the 22M coaxial run) - i suspect motor, which brand would you suggest that i should go for. Currently i have a moteck SRT DM2100 DiSEqC H-H Motor *insert banging head on wall emoticon here*

[Totally plucked]

LOL OK you just answered all the questions that I was about to ask.

It does sound like your motor isnt moving but I can asure you that the motor you have as compatible with the Dreambox I should know .........I have one and its working fine. If your asking what to replace it with I would say a Motek SG2100 LOL. What you need to check is if the motor is moving......................can you hear it ? Try moving from an east satellite to a west and go out side to listen. I can hear mine inside so I always know if its moving. but I have noticed that on a number of occaisions my box doesnt move the motor as it should. I select a channel or satellite and nothing happens .....so I change to another satellite and it moves
:rolleyes: For starters check the green light is on (I think you said it was) if it is check the connection from the cable into the motor.............You can move the motor using the button on the motor body near the green light it should move like that. I dont know where your dish is so dont go falling off ladders in the dark!

Assuming that everything is Ok I would suggest you try the fine adjustment in the motor setup to nudge the dish East or West. Ive tried mine and the movement as your screenshot is too much for what you need.

Just thinking of things to try

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OK just thinking of really silly simple mistakes. Just check that you have the cable into the dreambox going into the IN connector and not the OUT connector. yeah I know probably really silly thing to say but Ive made that mistake in the past. :banghead:

[adam965]

OK just thinking of really silly simple mistakes. Just check that you have the cable into the dreambox going into the IN connector and not the OUT connector. yeah I know probably really silly thing to say but Ive made that mistake in the past. :banghead:

lol ive checked and it is in the IN slot - nothing in the OUT one. I cant get to the roof (petrofied of heights) however from the outside of the building i can see the dish if it moves - and its not moving atall. I asked it to go to 42e and 45w and nothing. Now thats a huge difference yet its still pointing to what i can see it as 0.8w but its picking nothing up ON thor so it cant be on thor exactly - yet it was thor that the installer put it on and picked up on his meter.

So, if you have the exact same setup as me, this is confusing me even further :banghead:

LNB is working - tested
Motor worked then didnt work - why?
Box works perfectly on 28.2e
22m of coaxial - cant get it any shorter as the location of the dish, and cant move it anywhere else.

[Totally plucked]

Well I have a similar setup. I have the same motor, Box and a cable length of about 22 metres so yeah similar.

Going back to your motor setup have a read of this post https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=89468 and set it up like HDA5 suggests. but I cant see anything wrong with what you have done.

In the absence of being able to get up to the motor before the weekend do you have a volt meter? If you do you can check the voltage coming out of the Dreambox it should be between 13 and 18v DC (I think off the top of my head) Hopefully someone else will confirm this. Add a short length of coaxial cable out of the box and test it from there (or use a coax extension lead dont poke anything in the box. Can you try another power supply? As long as its 12V and about 3 amps ....yours could be faulty and not feeding the box correctly (I had this with my DM500 neither the box or the motor had enough power) But please be carefull I dont want to be blamed for you frying your box.

[adam965]

I dont have a voltage meter, however at the back of the adaptor it says input 100-240v 50/60mhz 1.0a 70va
output +12v 3a

So the PSU is marked as output as 12v 3a so do you think if i buy a new PSU that it should work?

item 9829701 - i have found that one so far just looking at argos

only one i can see at maplan item number VN10L

I do hope that i can get this sorted soon lol

[Totally plucked]

No dont buy one yet, you need to check that the power is getting to the motor first. In anycase that Argos one has an output of 1.2 amps which isnt enough, you can have more amps so long as the voltage is 12v as the unit just uses what it needs. If you had say a 2amp supply lying around the house then Id suggest trying that but only if you happened to have one. A replacement PSU like the one supplied is about £15 from that well known auction site so dont buy it untill you have checked everything else first. Looks like your going to have to get that ladder out at the weekend im afraid.

[Totally plucked]

Looks like your going to have to get that ladder out at the weekend im afraid.

But only if you have one and its safe and you feel safe of course, otherwise get the installer back to check it out for you, even if it costs a bit more its better than breaking your neck!

[adam965]

No dont buy one yet, you need to check that the power is getting to the motor first. In anycase that Argos one has an output of 1.2 amps which isnt enough, you can have more amps so long as the voltage is 12v as the unit just uses what it needs. If you had say a 2amp supply lying around the house then Id suggest trying that but only if you happened to have one. A replacement PSU like the one supplied is about £15 from that well known auction site so dont buy it untill you have checked everything else first. Looks like your going to have to get that ladder out at the weekend im afraid.

the PSU i have here from my laptop is output 20v 4.5a so it would probably fry the box circuits so i dont think i'd risk trying it. Would prefer to spend money on a new PSU than a new dreambox lol.

The thing is though, i can see from the front, the motor via binoculars and i cant see the light on atall. so no power to motor thus no power to lnb thus no power.

its on thor, and its probably why i pick nothing up from thor either.

Is the PSU issue a problem that is more frequent than not?

I was looking up on google and on another forum, somebody said that dreamboxes PSU only run on 300ma :001_07:

[adam965]

But only if you have one and its safe and you feel safe of course, otherwise get the installer back to check it out for you, even if it costs a bit more its better than breaking your neck!

i couldnt even climb up 2 steps without being petrofied lol :redface:

[yesfan]

If the power is getting to the motor you should see a green light on it, look at night if its high up. I have noticed sometimes the dish wont go anywhere if you are jumping satellites using the bouquet settings so use the satfinder to move the dish manually.

If you can get the dish back to 28.2, did you try plugging it into your sky box? I know you tried the sky dish in the DM. By a process of elimination, this would at least tell you if the dish setup is the problem if the sky box gets no signal.

You could also try reflashing the DM with your current image or a different one just to make sure everything installed ok.

Where are you based? Hopefully a helpful board member will live close and you may be able to twist their arm to come and investigate.

[adam965]

If the power is getting to the motor you should see a green light on it, look at night if its high up. I have noticed sometimes the dish wont go anywhere if you are jumping satellites using the bouquet settings so use the satfinder to move the dish manually.

If you can get the dish back to 28.2, did you try plugging it into your sky box? I know you tried the sky dish in the DM. By a process of elimination, this would at least tell you if the dish setup is the problem if the sky box gets no signal.

You could also try reflashing the DM with your current image or a different one just to make sure everything installed ok.

Where are you based? Hopefully a helpful board member will live close and you may be able to twist their arm to come and investigate.

I have the installer coming back on monday to completly reinstall the system as it has been bugging him too as he hasnt had a clue what has gone wrong and he has done many, but it was his first DM800 install.

I always use the sat finder to move the dish, and everytime ive tried, it just wont move atall. I cant see any light on the actual motor either so i guess thats why it wont move.

Yet the cables are all connected and i know the motor works, as its been tested on a very short coax run, and on a meter it also works (can power from the meter) which is why since everything is compatable, its now looking like the PSU

Ive been through all the diagnostics that i can think - motor, lnb, box, coaxial yet everything checks out 100%

i just recon that there isnt enough power from the box to move the motor and power the lnb too

[adam965]

also, i googled up "dm800 psu motor" and another forum popped up and one of the posters said


I have read about dreamboxes PSU's only running 300ma which is fook all especially if you have a long run.

I have a cctv PSU on my dreambox that i cut the plug off because i lost my old psu (don't ask i dunno where it went lol) its 5amp now it will not draw 5amps only what is called for but its been working great since yesterday (lol sorry not long i know) and i have a 20 meter run

Just thought i would add this dunno if it will help or not ?

300ma isnt alot - when i thought it was supposed to be 10 times that, so maybe thats the issue? I have a 4.5a laptop powerpack there but is 20v so wasnt sure if that would fry the box or not - any ideas if it would?

[yesfan]

The light is very small, on the underside of the motor on the opposite side to the manual movement button. It is hard to see if its illuminated during daylight cos its so small, unless you can get close to it.

I have the same motor as you and a DM800, it works ok. It also worked with my Skystar2 pci card for years and that isnt designed to move motors, therefore the motor will move with slight variations of voltage, just might go a bit slow :07:

The engineer visit should solve the problem. May be a faulty motor, but dont loose faith in them, mine has run for years problem free, rust and all.

[adam965]

ive got the motor here in my hand, ive put a short length of coax on it, and asked it to go to 0 and it did. I then asked it to go to 13e and it to around 19e. I asked it to go to 28.2e and it went to 35e

Ive checked my latatude and longatude and they are correct, as streetmap and dishpointer both say so.

so atleast we are getting somewhere but why is it missing out.....

[adam965]

send box to = motor goes to
west
15w = 12w
30w = 28w
43w = 44w
east
40e = 48e
10e = 15e

thats what ive got hmmm

using E2-motor@likra btw

[yesfan]

Depends which satellite the installer used to setup with. From your motor positions quoted he may have used 5w. Seems a bit far out for 1w. Whats your longitude?

At least the motor is operating with signals from the DM800, sounds like its going to be solved by correct bracket and dish positioning. Are you going to try and remount it yourself now you have taken it all down?

[adam965]

Depends which satellite the installer used to setup with. From your motor positions quoted he may have used 5w. Seems a bit far out for 1w. Whats your longitude?

At least the motor is operating with signals from the DM800, sounds like its going to be solved by correct bracket and dish positioning. Are you going to try and remount it yourself now you have taken it all down?

I will send you a PM with my lat and long (dont want to post them on a public forum)

The installer set it up to thor at 0.8w and put his meter on it and it was blaring up high, i then moved it with my DB to 13e and yet again it worked on his meter but not on my box - and through with 28.2e and same again.

SO it was working on his meter, and it was turning the dish but the signal wasnt going to my box - YET he put his meter at the end of the 22m run and it was also giving a signal - rulling out a coaxial problem.

Brakcets used are T&K's - the motor and dish are not actually down - they are still up there, but i have another motor here (same make) which has a little bit of play in the arm but moves around okay but with the gaps.

Will PM you with my co-ordanates though

[yesfan]

Thx for the coordinates.

Not sure 1w is the right setup point for you as its over 2 degrees east of your longitude?

My long is 4.9w so I use 5w Atlanticbird 3 to setup. I initially tried 1w and found I had the same problem as you are experiencing. It is important you have the long/lat positioner settings correct and move the dish with the dreambox when the installer tests for signal strength of the different satellites. If he is manually sat hunting with the motor buttons he will eventually find a signal of some kind but the dish might not be in the correct position for usals.

If he can set your 0 point bang on your longitude they should all drop in ok, but it will be difficult as Amos 4w is closest and you wont see much of that unless you have a huge dish and 5w is no better than 1w.

Dishpointer has a motorized dish setup, click on that and select the moteck and enter your coordinates. This will give you your southerly setup details (top of the arc). Make a note of the azimuth details then check 4w and 1w to see how the azimuth differs, it quite a lot bearing in mind you can probably be about 1 degree out when initially positioning but a lot less than that to finally get the arc correctly. Lets hope the installer can use a compass :respect-048:

[adam965]

Thx for the coordinates.

Not sure 1w is the right setup point for you as its over 2 degrees east of your longitude?

My long is 4.9w so I use 5w Atlanticbird 3 to setup. I initially tried 1w and found I had the same problem as you are experiencing. It is important you have the long/lat positioner settings correct and move the dish with the dreambox when the installer tests for signal strength of the different satellites. If he is manually sat hunting with the motor buttons he will eventually find a signal of some kind but the dish might not be in the correct position for usals.

If he can set your 0 point bang on your longitude they should all drop in ok, but it will be difficult as Amos 4w is closest and you wont see much of that unless you have a huge dish and 5w is no better than 1w.

Dishpointer has a motorized dish setup, click on that and select the moteck and enter your coordinates. This will give you your southerly setup details (top of the arc). Make a note of the azimuth details then check 4w and 1w to see how the azimuth differs, it quite a lot bearing in mind you can probably be about 1 degree out when initially positioning but a lot less than that to finally get the arc correctly. Lets hope the installer can use a compass :respect-048:
Thanks for all that - its been driving me up the wall. Ive even changed my lat and long in my settings to se if it made any difference, and while i got on to 28.2e without any issues, i was miles out on the other birds out there, so while its possible to do that, its defo not practical.

looking at dishpointer, no way will i get anything from 4w.

The funny thing was though, it worked before, untill i powered things down, then started things back up, moved to thor and everything was lost.

Like i said, i have the installer coming back out on MOnday, so hopefully everything will be sorted out then. feel sorry for him lol - he has been out 4 times now to fix this issue lol. but ive ruled out many things including motor, lnb, box and coax so nothing much left to rule out :respect-055:

[techmob]

don't be sorry, you want everything working

although i am suprised you didn't have a box there for him to test it was bang on the arc, rather than just going off his say so and his meter

good luck anyway

[adam965]

don't be sorry, you want everything working

although i am suprised you didn't have a box there for him to test it was bang on the arc, rather than just going off his say so and his meter

good luck anyway

i dont quite follow as my DM800 is sitting there to test on too

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the PSU i have here from my laptop is output 20v 4.5a so it would probably fry the box circuits so i dont think i'd risk trying it. Would prefer to spend money on a new PSU than a new dreambox lol.

Is the PSU issue a problem that is more frequent than not?

I was looking up on google and on another forum, somebody said that dreamboxes PSU only run on 300ma :001_07:

Not sure about other Dreambox's but DO NOT try any PSU other than one outputing 12V Find one with as many amps as you like but dont change the voltage. I have my DM800 runing off a 12v 3.7amp PSU which I brought for the DM500, that works fine.

Im not sure that there is an inherent problem with Dreambox PSU's , Ive neber found anyone else who had the same problem as me.

[adam965]

Not sure about other Dreambox's but DO NOT try any PSU other than one outputing 12V Find one with as many amps as you like but dont change the voltage. I have my DM800 runing off a 12v 3.7amp PSU which I brought for the DM500, that works fine.

Im not sure that there is an inherent problem with Dreambox PSU's , Ive neber found anyone else who had the same problem as me.

Yeah i see what you mean. I managed to get hold of a loan of a 5amp multi, and put it to 12v and put it on - one thing i did not ice is while the problem is still there, the temp of the box is cooler than it was with the other PSU. So i went to maplan and bought one.

While it might not cure the issue, it has certainly helped with the cooling of the box. - now thats something i dont undertand. i tried the other PSU once more, and the box did get hotter than with the multi one.

[Totally plucked]

send box to = motor goes to
west
15w = 12w
30w = 28w
43w = 44w
east
40e = 48e
10e = 15e

thats what ive got hmmm

using E2-motor@likra btw


I asked the same question on another forum although my problems are somewhat different. I too had my motor in hand and I was trying to workout if my motor was supposed to move to reach 1W.........The answers no!

Lets put it like this Im at 0.8W which I put into the usals setup. I then point my dish to 1W which is immediately due South of my location and Bang I have it. so for me 1 W is actually at zero on the motor

If I was at 13E longitude i would point my dish at hotbird and the motor would still be at zero ...............at least I think thats correct :rolleyes: Anyway with your motor besides you try playing with your lat settings and see where the motor moves. Its not what I expected to be honest but when you think about it it does make sense (sort of).

Adam you have made a valid point about exactly where the motor is moving to in that it doesnt look consistent looking around the WWW it looks like others have had the same problem but no solution. It looks like setting the position to diseq should solve that because you drive the motor to where you want it and store that position. its what we were trying to do last night.

However this doesnt answer why your dish wasnt moving............

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Yeah i see what you mean. I managed to get hold of a loan of a 5amp multi, and put it to 12v and put it on - one thing i did not ice is while the problem is still there, the temp of the box is cooler than it was with the other PSU. So i went to maplan and bought one.

While it might not cure the issue, it has certainly helped with the cooling of the box. - now thats something i dont undertand. i tried the other PSU once more, and the box did get hotter than with the multi one.

Thats great .....Id have probaly done just the same :respect-048: So what ampage does your PSU have? Its interesting what you say about heat It would be fantastic is the heat from the DM800 could be reduced by using a bigger PSU Im not sure that that actually makes any sense but then Im not and electronics engineer.

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Thats great .....Id have probaly done just the same :respect-048: So what ampage does your PSU have? Its interesting what you say about heat It would be fantastic is the heat from the DM800 could be reduced by using a bigger PSU Im not sure that that actually makes any sense but then Im not and electronics engineer.

Its 5 amps with multi voltage (sat at 12v) and the heat of the box right now is warm - before it would be much hotter.

I dont quite know why it is either - whether it is the PSU of the DM not working the way it should or whether its something else - its a strange one

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Adam you have made a valid point about exactly where the motor is moving to in that it doesnt look consistent looking around the WWW it looks like others have had the same problem but no solution. It looks like setting the position to diseq should solve that because you drive the motor to where you want it and store that position. its what we were trying to do last night.

However this doesnt answer why your dish wasnt moving............

I just wish DM;s were easier to setup lol.

So i guess USALS isnt good to use at the moment then.

I'm not sure about diseqc if im totally honest, just seen people saying to use it but i have not much idea of how to "setup" using it. I know you need to do it manually but its how.

That said, isnt the file i downloaded (mentioned above) all sorted for that? :svengo:

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I just wish DM;s were easier to setup lol.

So i guess USALS isnt good to use at the moment then.

I'm not sure about diseqc if im totally honest, just seen people saying to use it but i have not much idea of how to "setup" using it. I know you need to do it manually but its how.

That said, isnt the file i downloaded (mentioned above) all sorted for that? :svengo:

The Satellites.xml file is just a list of satellites and transponders (where the signals come from). Diseqc works by you telling the motor where to find the satellite and saving that position in memory so its very good if your dish is out of alignment for example. Which is why everyone is suggesting it, It also allows you to fine tune the motor which is not really poissible with USALS as USALS require your dish to be set up perfectly to work. Thats a non technical answer. Im sure someone can explain it better.

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The Satellites.xml file is just a list of satellites and transponders (where the signals come from). Diseqc works by you telling the motor where to find the satellite and saving that position in memory so its very good if your dish is out of alignment for example. Which is why everyone is suggesting it, It also allows you to fine tune the motor which is not really poissible with USALS as USALS require your dish to be set up perfectly to work. Thats a non technical answer. Im sure someone can explain it better.

I wasnt meaning the satellites.xml file, i was meaning the green button yellow button, downloads, settings - E2 something motorised file

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thats what ive been doing for the last wee while lol