Latest drivers DM800HD OE 1.5 -14/04/2010

[x5]

send to TMP
and do a manual ipk install

[x5]

new drivers DM800

[harshy]

Hi, I am a bit confused, whats the difference between the two uploads?

OK, thanks,


harshy

[zupy]

Look at the date of drivers
20090306
20090310

[wwe]

I think what harshy is saying is do you load both drivers or are they same but one is an upgrade of the other. So you only load the latest dated one?

and what do they improve?

cheers

wwe

[x5]

ok this is a very important info for all that have a sky uk card

DM800 is now capable to read sky card from the internal card reader without the need of using NEWCS

tested just now with CCcam2.0.11 works fine and fast zapping :king-041:

load the lasted drivers 10/03/2009 put your card in the slot reboot your dreambox and its read

grtzz
x5

[harshy]

I think what harshy is saying is do you load both drivers or are they same but one is an upgrade of the other. So you only load the latest dated one?

and what do they improve?

cheers

wwe

You are right wwe, I just needed confirmation, but it looks like we put the date marked 10/03/2009 exciting moment for this receiver, just read its going to fix a few things!

[CROSSBONES]

Thats great news that the card works with CCcam alone, maybe brought to light by the new card issue?:respect-050:

[streetspanic]

Hello all,

I am running a GP2 v 4.1 image. I uploaded the file in tmp, and tried a manual install.

I got an error message saying

"
nothing to be done
an error occured return value 1
error: cannot satisfy the followin dependencied for dreambox
dvb-modules
"

Any clues?

[streetspanic]

Hmmm, I installed the secondstage bootloader 72r1. I then tried again to install the drivers and they installed without errors. I don't know what went wrong the first time. Anyway!

[sonic1]

dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: update dm8000 and dm800 driver modules
changes in both drivers: - working on dvb-t tuner initialisation problems - demux "feed_cb but filter not GO" bug fixed (i.e. this fixes frequently crashes on cyfrowy polsat channels) additional changes in dm800 drivers: - allow playback of radio services with invalid pcr data or non pcr data in pcr pid additional changes in dm8000 drivers: - reset no more responding CIs (this fixes the problem with no more working CI after long standby period)

KV_dm800 = "2.6.12-5.1-brcmstb-dm800"
-PV_dm800 = "${KV}-20090310"
+PV_dm800 = "${KV}-20090430"
KV_dm8000 = "2.6.12-5.1-brcmstb-dm8000"
-PV_dm8000 = "${KV}-20090423"
+PV_dm8000 = "${KV}-20090430"
RDEPENDS = "kernel (${KV})"
PR = "r0"

[sonic1]

Update 28/05/2009
I will add info when I find it.

[Achille]

There is already a newer driver:

http://dreamboxupdate.com/opendreambox/1.5/dm800/experimental/dreambox-dvb-modules_2.6.12-5.1-brcmstb-dm800-20090529-r0_dm800.ipk

[sonic1]

And here it is:D

[harshy]

seems to render HD channels quicker now, can't see any other differences.

[sonic1]

dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: update dm800 drivers (demux fixes)

ftp to tmp and manual addon ipk file

[wwe]

Sorry but what is demux, is it worth loading this update

thanks

[sonic1]

Changes for dm800 drivers:

Small stability fixes.

[sonic1]

Sorry guy's, I will get glasses one day :respect-050:

Correct file now in place

ps. New bootloader and drivers in place and box boots a lot quicker

[jezzb]

:king-041:Thanks for this post. DM800 boot quicker now.

Jezzb

[Armsoft]

Just did my first ever manual ipk install:001_302:
Don`t know why I was so worried, it was easy (scarry though!)

Thanks Sonic

[rruunneerr]

Please can somebody explain how I can un-install the latest driver, I installed it manually as an IPK file.

I would now like to install this latest update but can't see within my DM800 where this can be done.

Is it possible? or is just a case of installing the previous driver again.

Cheers,

Kev

[sonic1]

Not quite sure what you mean. with the ipk file I have posted you simply install manually and overwrite the existing drivers.
Once done carry out a hard reset.

[rruunneerr]

Hi Sonic,

I now want to remove the driver as i believe it is causing me a few issues. I want to roll back to the previous drivers, without reinstalling Nabilo V0.10

Cheers.

[sonic1]

Not sure how it will work as I have never tried but you could try installing the previous drivers.

I have the new drivers and latest secondstage bootloader on Nabilo BH 0.10 and it works a charm.

Have you got the latest second stage installed ?

[kemik]

For clarification as I'm no expert here

Do these updates have to be installed in any particular order?
Do the latest updates include updates from the previous packages or do you need to install them all to get the full update?
Can someone provide a step-by-step newbie guide on how to manually install please?

Many thanks

[sonic1]

No particualr order needed as far as I am concerned.

For the record I replaced the drivers in the flash image and then a hard reboot, replaced the secondstage bootloader in the flash and then a hard reboot.

I then did exactly the same with BH0.10 which I run on USB.

For me the box boots quicker and I feel it zaps channels quicker as well.

Istallation is easy, ftp to tmp and carry out a manual installation or use
the tools within DCC to install ipk packages which again does all the work for you.

[rruunneerr]

Hi Sonic,

I just have Nabilo V0.10 installed on my dreambox, not multi boot or anything like that.

As a matter of interest what is second stage you refer to?

I will just try and reinstall the previous drivers.

Thanks.

[sonic1]

Latest is 73 which can be found HERE (https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showpost.php?p=578593&postcount=1) :respect-051:

[rruunneerr]

Hi Sonic,

sorry to be a pain.

I'm fairly new to this, but what is 'A second stage bootloader' and what will it allow me to do?

Also any good guides etc?

Cheers,

Kev.

[sonic1]

My terminology is never very good with these things but it is basically part of the operating system that works in conjunction with the drivers and the firmware.

You have to understand that the DM800 and DM8000 like many box's are really still beta but are stable enough for us to use.

I personally install every update and have always seen improvements.
The latest secondstage bootloader has improved the boot time of the box considerably if you compare it to 9 months ago when I got my box.

I personally test almost all the plugins and updates I post for the 800 and any image, plugin or addon such as Barry Allen I always download from the author to make sure it has been tested and will not cause a problem to my box or anyone else's.

All image are always direct from the team and not other boards.

So never worry about updates unless you see reports from me or other members here that always keep things bang up to date.

[rruunneerr]

Thanks Sonic for the explanation.

Top man.

[Accord]

:king-041:Thanks for this post. DM800 boot quicker now.

Jezzb

My DM800 still takes over 2 Minutes to boot.

[sonic1]

My DM800 still takes over 2 Minutes to boot.


FFS better than the 4 mins it used to take :respect-059:

[loveman]

Never took 4 mins for mine to boot. You must've had a problem :p

I do notice it a little faster at booting, but not exceptionally faster (probably about 10 seconds). But not complaining before ppl say :p

[Accord]

FFS better than the 4 mins it used to take :respect-059:

But 2 minutes is still a long time for a receiver to boot up.

[sonic1]

But 2 minutes is still a long time for a receiver to boot up.

Put the kettle on FFS

Better than it was :ack2:

[aabs]

Never took 4 mins for mine to boot. You must've had a problem :p

I do notice it a little faster at booting, but not exceptionally faster (probably about 10 seconds). But not complaining before ppl say :p

lol@loveman, i got a nice little mental image of you then switching on your DB with one hand and a stopwatch in the other.

[sonic1]

lol@loveman, i got a nice little mental image of you then switching on your DB with one hand and a stopwatch in the other.

hmmm
Thats sick aabs
:respect-059:

[suky]

Hello

Why e2 in DM 7020 is faster than DM 800?
i was expected the oposite
thank you

Suky

[Stev0]

thanks

[sonic1]

- DVB-S2 on Alps-Tuner with SR=30000 on DVB-S2 transponder was fixed,
- vtuner: POLLHUP was changed to POLLIN, if you're using this,
please update your tool,
- vtuner: PVR playback now works together with vtuner
- DM8000/DM800: muted some noises while zapping channels. Due to a
workaround for Harman-Kardon-Receivers, noises when switching between
DTS and PCM might occur, we are investigating for a better fix.
- DM8000: ALSA playback was improved,
- 2D accel now support palettes - this will fix DVB Subtitles on HD-
Skins with recent enigma2,
- "dvbnet" was disabled previously, and is enabled now.
- DM800: some more checks

[scrupples]

does using software update also install the latest drivers or do you need install these as well?

[sonic1]

If it does you will see the update come in.
It all depends on your image.

[harshy]

I updated the driver, but when the channel changes aspect ratio, its taking longer to process, so you can now see the aspect ratio changing.

[x5]

fix progressive/interlaced detection and strange scaling effects on channel change

[sonic1]

changelog driver 07.07.2009

dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: update dm800 and dm8000 drivers
dm8000 changes: - fixed no more working ts playback after MPEG4 Part2 (Divx) playback - CI fix for Dre Crypt Module dm800 and dm8000 changes: - /proc/stb/audio/audio_delay_pcm/bitstream is now working in both directions.. negative offset now delays video

[wwe]

No particualr order needed as far as I am concerned.

For the record I replaced the drivers in the flash image and then a hard reboot, replaced the secondstage bootloader in the flash and then a hard reboot.

I then did exactly the same with BH0.10 which I run on USB.

For me the box boots quicker and I feel it zaps channels quicker as well.

Istallation is easy, ftp to tmp and carry out a manual installation or use
the tools within DCC to install ipk packages which again does all the work for you.

I have transfered ipk's into temp using dcc295 but on my db800 i can't find the menu to load these i am using nabilo 09


cheers

wwe

[sonic1]

Green button then yellow button and the I think manual install ipk

[wwe]

Green button then yellow button and the I think manual install ipk

Thanks done it before just could not remember where it was

cheers

[x5]

small fix in still experimental vtuner stuff

[sonic1]

dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: update dm800 and dm8000 drivers
- better H264 compatibility ... (higher bitrates, more reference frames) - dm800 fix for playback of MPEG2 HD 1080p (converted H264 file with mkv2vob was not working.. green screen) - add VTUNER_SET_FRONTEND_INFO ioctl (ioctl id 6) to set a struct dvb_frontend_info* to set frontend capibilities and frontend type THIS DRIVERS NEEDS AT LEAST SECONDSTAGE 74 !!!!!!!!!!!!

[NoMaD]

update 22.08.2009
dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: another dm800 driver update (deinterlacer auto handling was not working okay)

[x5]

new driver here

[wwe]

new driver here


is this an update of the one posted by sonic1 do iload them both or just this one by x5

cheers

wwe

[x5]

is this an update of the one posted by sonic1 do iload them both or just this one by x5

cheers

wwe

yes m8 its a update from the 1 posted by sonic1 u need only the 1 posted by me dont need to load both

[sonic1]

dreambox-dvb-modules_2.6.12-5.1-brcmstb-dm800-20090907-r0_dm800

dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: update dm800 and dm8000 drivers

fix 1080p24/30 synchronisation problems via AV Receiver

fix 720p24 output via dvi

fix loss of dvi(hdmi) audio on framerate change

another small deinterlacer auto handling fix

improved locking times for alps-bsbe1-c/d01a tuner

fix synchronisation problems on scart output in some cases

[sonic1]

New Drivers for DM800
Update of 13.10.2009

changes dm800
-------------
* fix completely broken 1080p24/25/30 output (broken since previous drivers)
* fix strange kernel ooopses on flash access (i.e. packages upgrades or install new ipk packages)

changes dm800 and dm8000
------------------------
* fix alps_bsbe2 detection (some NIM modules couldn't be detected since previous drivers)
* small fixes on "no tuner lock" handling .. the min timeout is now 1500 msec
this hopefully fixes "tune failed" problems introduced with previous drivers
* fix frequently stuttering on put out content with 23.976fps and choosed 24fps outputmode (i.e. 1080p24, 720p24)
the same for 29.97fps on 30fps and 59.94 on 60fps

[x5]

New Drivers for DM800
Update of 14.10.2009


dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: another dm800/dm8000 driver update
dm800 changes
-------------
* tuner detection fixes

dm800 and dm8000 changes
------------------------
* fix tone amplitude setting for alps_bsbe2 tuner
this fixes "tune failed" problems introduced in previous drivers

[x5]

New Drivers for DM800
Update of 29.10.2009


add tuner timedout signal (needed for faster enigma2 service searching)
work on prerolling after video buffer flush during playback

[sonic1]

dreambox-dvb-modules_2.6.12-5.1-brcmstb-dm800-20091105-r0_dm800

* fix strange audio noise on skip fast forward/backward

* improved position after seek/play transition a bit

[loveman]

Installed the 29102009 drivers this morning, and since then I noticed that I haven't been able to view the hd channels on astra 28.2 (not sure about others as haven't checked the other sats yet, and since little one is in bed with the satellite outside his window, don't wanna wake him up). I know it was working fine at the weekend, but can't remember last time I tried checking since then. But have only changed something today (as in the drivers).

I then updated to today's drivers (05112009), and it's still the same. I just tried re-scanning the channels, and nothing's coming through on those channels.

Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed same things?! Rebooted box a few times, and nothing...

Cheers :)

[sonic1]

I have latest drivers and Barry Allen installed and HD on 28.2 working 100% with Nabilo BH 0.12 image.

[loveman]

Cheers for that, just restarted to flash image on box (oozoon, which I also updated, but got some errors about file not being there when trying to rename?!). Anyway, the hd channels actually get a signal in this image, so going to try a few things...

[sonic1]

changes dm800

-------------

fix no more working live tv after running media playback (mkv, mp4, mpg)... this bug was introduced with 20091105 drivers

[x5]

changes dm800 and dm8000:
-------------------------
- disable some pcr workarounds when a tv services is running
- ignore audio pause request in live mode
- small fix for channels with very high pcr - stc difference (this fixes some hotbird services on 12360H)
- fix sometimes visible trash on scart output in soft standby

[paulbb]

I have just tried to update my DM800 with these drivers and all that I get is the message:

ipkg: invalid magic
Execution finished

The previous drivers loaded Ok so should I be doing something differently with these?

Thanks

[canthackit]

what image?

did you unzip the file and put the ipk file in /tmp?

my appologies just tried to install on BH 0.12 and got the same message.

so what are WE doing wrong :respect-applause-00

regards: canthackit

[simi]

The same for me with Gemini 4.5

thanks

[Opus]

i had the same message on Gemini 4.5 here.

So i unpacked the ipk file with winrar and copied all the files manually into /lib/modules/2.6.12-5.1-brcmstb-dm800/extra/ .

But the problem on *** view still exists for me so these drivers did not fix the problem for me.

[Opus]

i did the same to the dm800 in the bedroom and there the problem is fixed.

but on the dm800 in the living room its not fixed as posted before so now i need to find out why on 1 box its ok and on the other one not.

[sonic1]

Ok here is the update now direct from dreambox update site.

[canthackit]

just put BH 0.12 on the flash.

and tried to install the above, it tells me the drivers are up to date nothing to be done.

and SV still dont work (although i know this is not the thread):respect-059:

regards: canthackit

[sonic1]

this is a experimental driver release! latest stable is 20091118

changes both
* some fast winding and slowmotion fixes
* fix strange audio noise on skip fast forward/backward (2nd try)
* improved position after seek/play transition a bit (2nd try)
* improved playback engine (lower cpu load)

changes dm800
* small fix for modem support

[tricky2lu]

Can these drivers be used with a clone DM800HD ?

[mrbleu500]

Can these drivers be used with a clone DM800HD ?

No, unless you want to brick your box.

You should use the last drivers which you bootloader can handle

[sly666]

No, unless you want to brick your box.

You should use the last drivers which you bootloader can handle

What about if one was using the patched BlackHole 012 image which has the hacked bootloader so it appears as 75?
Anyone tried installing the latest drivers on that?

I accidendly tried offical drivers when my clone had bootloader 72 and just got the old CA error message. Just had to use Dream-up software to bring it back to life.
Was not bricked.
Just scared to try it now its got BL75 incase it does it again as it took ages to re-config my box last time.

[mrbleu500]

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=121950

Maybe useful if you have a clone ;)

[sonic1]

dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: update dm800/dm8000/dm7025 drivers

changes for all:

- buffer empty detection changes for /dev/dvb/.../videoX, audio0 and /dev/pvr (this is needed for current enigma2)

changes dm8000 and dm800:

- more acurate timestamp queries (fixes seeking in some conditions)

- video freeze fixes (this fixes black picture in timeshift start)

- faster audio/video resync in some playback conditions

[pintglass]

These latest drivers made no difference to me regarding the
- video freeze fixes (this fixes black picture in timeshift start) issue,
this happens more often than not now.

Running Gemini 4.4

Regards Pintglass

[veron57]

These latest drivers made no difference to me regarding the
- video freeze fixes (this fixes black picture in timeshift start) issue,
this happens more often than not now.

Running Gemini 4.4

Regards Pintglass

Gemini 4.5 is the latest, maybe there are some improvements to that of 4.4 with regards to your problem/s.

[pintglass]

I could do with someone confirming as to whether it has fixed this issue for anyone else before i bother upgrading, as last time i upgraded i was worse of.

Cheers Pintglass

[sonic1]

dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: update dm800/dm8000 drivers 16-12-09

changes all:
------------
* fixes for the new buffer empty / decoder finished detection

changes dm800/dm8000:
---------------------
* fix possible driver mem allocation problems
* more stable transition between different audio/video streamtypes (i.e. this fixes no more working mp3 output after playback a avi/mkv/mpg file)
* small fixes for more stable pcr/pts sync handling

Special Changes for DM800 i can´t find Sorry

[juli13]

dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: update dm800 und dm8000 drivers

* small internal memory allocation speedup
* fix not working radio service with corrupt pcr again
* small change on alps_bsbe2 tuner 22Khz handling

[harshy]

does it work on dm800, as it says dm8000,

OK, thanks,


harshy :)

[sonic1]

does it work on dm800, as it says dm8000,

OK, thanks,


harshy :)

My fault bud sorry, now sorted :respect-051:

[harshy]

thanks sonic1, merry christmas and a happy new year:):respect-052:

[juli13]

dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: update dm800 drivers


------------

* video and audio get pts ioctls now returns better timestamps in some conditions (this fixes skipping in radio ts recordings)

* work on ac3 -> pcm transition via spdif and hdmi ( this fixes sometimes not working ac3 -> pcm transition with some TVs / AV receivers)

[apriliarsvr]

just a quickkie question about all these new drivers... are they all built upon the previous drivers ... ie if you load the latestst driver you get all the benefits of the many previous ones aswell..!!

[sonic1]

just a quickkie question about all these new drivers... are they all built upon the previous drivers ... ie if you load the latestst driver you get all the benefits of the many previous ones aswell..!!

Yes but also make sure you also have the latest Bootloader.

[apriliarsvr]

ok sonic.. where do i find the latest and do i put it on in the same way i did the driver.. ie ftp. tmp then on the green and yellow button..?

oh actully.. im using meoboot... isnt that self updating..!!

[sonic1]

Last Bootloader was 75 which is here https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showpost.php?p=660537&postcount=65

When you reboot you will see the driver date and bootloader version and no it is not self updating.

[apriliarsvr]

job done :respect-050: latest drivers and bootloaders are in:respect-059::woohoo-022:

many thanks indeed..!!

[x5]

1 = fix to disable 22Khz completey from alps bsbe2 tuner
2 = fix audio crackling when change from pcm to ac3 (introduced with 20100102 drivers)
3 = fix sometimes not working voltage change on Scart pin8

[kemik]

Are these updates ***ulative?

Thanks

[x5]

changes:


1 = work on ac3 <-> pcm transition via DVI and SPDIF (this fixes strange audio noise with some TV/AV Receivers)
2 = optimized alps bsbe2 tuner driver for transponders with low signal strength/quality

[dragon25slayer]

changes:


1 = work on ac3 <-> pcm transition via DVI and SPDIF (this fixes strange audio noise with some TV/AV Receivers)
2 = optimized alps bsbe2 tuner driver for transponders with low signal strength/quality

will this work on a clone?? bl72 thankyou

[sonic1]

will this work on a clone?? bl72 thankyou

Nope

[marcillia]

Thanks:respect-051::respect-050:

[x5]

dreambox-dvb-modules_2.6.12-5.1

- fixes alps bsbe2 low symbolrate problems
- fix freezes some times (introduces with smp locking changes)
- small performance improvements
- add lpcm support for dm500hd

ONLY FOR IMAGE OE 1.5 (opendreambox-1.5)

[wwe]

dont understand what this means only for image 1.6 will this go on any db800hd running nabilo 0.12

cheers

[sonic1]

No m8 you are running OE 1.5 so you need these drivers

[Satexpert]

No m8 you are running OE 1.5 so you need these drivers

What is difference between three driver files?

Your attached file -
dreambox-dvb-modules_2[1].6.12-5.1-brcmstb-dm800-20100414-r0_dm800.ipk - 1 452 020 bytes.

On dreamboxupdate com - Experimental (opendreambox-1.5) -
dreambox-dvb-modules_2.6.12-5.1-brcmstb-dm800-20100414-r0_dm800.ipk - 1 452 028 bytes.

On dreamboxupdate com - Release (opendreambox-1.5) -
dreambox-dvb-modules_2.6.12-5.1-brcmstb-dm800-20100414-r0_dm800.ipk - 1 452 028 bytes.

:confused:

[Satexpert]

Well, can anyone explain, why driver files in different places are different and which file is the right one :confused:

[sonic1]

I have no idea where you are looking but the file I have posted is the one you need.

If you go to the official update site you have one option, the one I posted.

Either you use it like the rest of use or don't.

[Satexpert]

I have no idea where you are looking

sources.dreamboxupdate.com


If you go to the official update site

Which is :confused:

[canthackit]

read you own posting above it tells you what they are.

the top 1 the 1 posted here is for 1.6 images
the next one down is an experimental for 1.5 images
the last entry is the release candidate for 1.5 images

[sonic1]

read you own posting above it tells you what they are.

the top 1 the 1 posted here is for 1.6 images
the next one down is an experimental for 1.5 images
the last entry is the release candidate for 1.5 images

You see that, I see that and I have posted the latest file to make life easy for members so they can not get it wrong.

What more can I do :rolleyes:

[Satexpert]

the top 1 the 1 posted here is for 1.6 images

:confused:



dreambox-dvb-modules_2.6.12-5.1

ONLY FOR IMAGE OE 1.5 (opendreambox-1.5)


No m8 you are running OE 1.5 so you need these drivers

I understand, the 1 posted here is for 1.5 images. I'm confused :confused:

[sonic1]

You can go to dreambox update and get your own files but if you are not sure which you need you could make a mess of your image.

Myself and the others who post the files will always post the latest and correct files for you so there is no confusion.

[canthackit]

:confused:





I understand, the 1 posted here is for 1.5 images. I'm confused :confused:

what are you confused about now:banghead:

1: are you trying to update your drivers?
2: what image version?
3: is your version 1.5 or 1.6?

answer me this and all will be revealed :party:

regards: canthackit

[Satexpert]

what are you confused about now

You said, that the drivers posted here is for 1.6 images. But you are wrong, they are not. They supposed to be last experimental drivers for 1.5 images. But I discovered that the file posted here is not exactly the same, that posted on sources.dreamboxupdate.com. I am wondering, why :confused:

[canthackit]

yes you're right i appologise.

but the only thing i can find different is that the file sonic posted for you has [1] in it the one's you posted don't.

i think basicly they are the same files apart from what i said above and that 1 in brackets simply means that it was the first file in a list (mind i could be wrong and going to get pillaried for it)
regards: canthackit

[sonic1]

@canthackit you are right about the [1]

But stop wasting your time here.

For some reason Satexpert lol does not read what has been written here or in the pm's I have sent, hence why I no longer accept pm's

For the last time the file I posted is ONLY FOR OE 1.5 AND IS FROM THE EXPERIMENTAL TREE

It is the only file you need if you use an image with OE 1.5
If however you run and image such as Dream Elite you need OE 1.6 drivers which I have posted in a separate thread.

[Satexpert]

but the only thing i can find different is that the file sonic posted for you has [1] in it the one's you posted don't.


But the size and the content of the file is different too. Very suspicious :frown: sonic1 probably don't understand a word, what I'm talking about :cuss: But, OK... whatever ;) I personally don't download drivers from this forum anymore :p

[canthackit]

LOL

well after that statement i give up :beatdeadhorse5:

[sonic1]

But the size and the content of the file is different too. Very suspicious :frown: sonic1 probably don't understand a word, what I'm talking about :cuss: But, OK... whatever ;) I personally don't download drivers from this forum anymore :p

Thank god for that, you don't listen to a word and are fookin clueless.

Now go and download your drivers elsewhere and don't even think of asking for help when you balls it up.

[loveman]

OK, you said you've pm'd this guy, might be useful to post what you pm'd to him here... Since, as far as I can see, he has a very valid question!

The file I downloaded from here (dunno whether it was the stable of experimental for 1.5) is 1,452,020 bytes. The stable I downloaded from the dreambox update site (which as far as I know is the official site?!), is 1,452,028 bytes. The experiemental I downloaded from that site is 1,452,036 bytes.

Since all of the downloads have 8bytes difference, I think it is a legit question, which, if answered on here, should've been posted...

[Satexpert]

He pm'd to me nothing more, than he said in this thread. Mhhh... but maybe this is the aswer for mystery - on dreambox update com yesterday I downloaded last experimental drivers 1 452 028 bytes, but today there is file with same name 1 452 036 bytes :confused: Are they update files there without renaming them? Strange :frown: