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BOOGIBEAR
20-03-2009, 05:14 AM
ive seen these telly's advertised as being hd ready and some say full hd ready,excuse my sceptisism but ive been stung too many times by the clever wording of things ive bought,can anybody explain before i take the plunge,thank you in advance:respect-050:

xanadu
20-03-2009, 08:45 AM
Look for a Full HD TV that displays true 1080P resolution and is capable of 24Hz Blu-Ray playback

harrydocuk
20-03-2009, 09:08 AM
boo i think full hd means you can watch in 1920 x 1080, 1920 is for the future as i don't think tv is made at 1920 at the moment. i thought i was getting full hd when i got my hd ready tv. not so. stung again. this is how i see it maybe someone can clarify this.

holmroad
20-03-2009, 09:11 AM
Look for a Full HD TV that displays true 1080P resolution and is capable of 24Hz Blu-Ray playback


Fair comment M8 - but MOST 'allegedly full HD Ready' tvs are currently 1080i - and I thought there was unlikely to be any in 1080P in the near future due to cost?:respect-050:

TonyO
20-03-2009, 10:17 AM
HD ready is good enough for tv, 1080 still looks good on it.

1080 does not always make a good job of lower resolutions, in fact most look very poor !

mrbleu500
20-03-2009, 10:17 AM
This might help :)

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj300/mrbleu500/hdready.jpg


1080p is the shorthand name for a category of HDTV video modes. The number "1080" represents 1,080 lines of vertical resolution (1080 horizontal scan lines), while the letter p stands for progressive scan (meaning the image is not interlaced). 1080p can be referred to as full HD or full high definition to differentiate it from other HDTV video modes. The term usually assumes a widescreen aspect ratio of 16:9, implying a horizontal resolution of 1920 pixels. This creates a frame resolution of 1920×1080, or 2,073,600 pixels in total. The frame rate in hertz can be either implied by the context or specified after the letter p (or i), such as 1080p30, meaning 30 Hz.

1080p is sometimes referred to in marketing materials as "Complete High-Definition". However, 2K/4K digital cinema technology is commercially available, and ultra-high definition video is in the research phase.

In addition to the meaning of 1080p as a display resolution, 1080p is also used to describe video equipment capabilities. Use of 1080p and the closely related 1080i labels in consumer products may refer to a range of capabilities. For example, video equipment that upscales to 1080p takes lower resolution material and reformats it for a higher resolution display. The image that results is different from the display of original 1080p source material on a native 1080p capable-display. Similarly, equipment capable of displaying both 720p and 1080i may in fact not have the capability to display 1080p or 1080i material at full resolution. It is common for this material to be downscaled to the native capability of the equipment. The term "native 1080p-capable" is sometimes used to refer to equipment capable of rendering 1080p fully.

Gone_Fishing
20-03-2009, 03:05 PM
Fair comment M8 - but MOST 'allegedly full HD Ready' tvs are currently 1080i - and I thought there was unlikely to be any in 1080P in the near future due to cost?:respect-050:

Your wrong there my friend all LCD/Plasma screens are Progressive none are interlaced anything interlaced fed to LCD/Plasma has to be deinterlaced first by the screen before it can be displayed

Nearly all the latest full HD screens (1920x1080) accept 1080p at different refresh rates and most accept 1080p/24 but that can be one of two ways either exactly output as its received which is what you really want for smooth playback of blu ray 1080p/24 or by means of Intelligent Frame Creation (IFC) which can cause judder

Loads of stuff like TV series are now shot in 1080p but still only broadcast in 1080i, blu ray is actually stored on the disc in 1080p/24

HD Read normally means a 720p screen which can be a number of resolutions depending on whether its LCD or Plasma or if its 42" or 50"

Best advice I can give is always go and download the manual from the manufacturers site and see what input formats it can except over HDMI


TNT

RABBY
21-03-2009, 04:12 PM
Only programme I have seen in True 1080p was on [ EUROSPORT HD ] During the Olympics ??? Amasing Picture:respect-050:

little devil
21-03-2009, 05:03 PM
human eye can't make the difference :)

mrbleu500
21-03-2009, 05:29 PM
Only programme I have seen in True 1080p was on [ EUROSPORT HD ] During the Olympics ??? Amasing Picture:respect-050:

Are you absolutely sure it was 1080p? Does any receiver actually support 1080P input? I don't think so...

Eurosport carried a "FullHD" dog on their HD channel, but I think that only signified it was not upscaled SD...

1080p is currently NOT a supported television broadcast standard, according to the latest EBU standards, but will be supported in the future.

simon 2003
21-03-2009, 07:30 PM
human eye can't make the difference :)

agreed marketing hype

RABBY
21-03-2009, 07:50 PM
mrbleu500



Are you absolutely sure it was 1080p? Does any receiver actually support 1080P input? I don't think so...

Eurosport carried a "FullHD" dog on their HD channel, but I think that only signified it was not upscaled SD...

1080p is currently NOT a supported television broadcast standard, according to the latest EBU standards, but will be supported in the future


Believe me m8 on my Panasonic TV ?? The picture was super ? I also have a toshiba dvd upscaller to 1080p ? BUT THE PICTURE ON EUROSPORT WAS SUPER ??


You no best ?? so I will shut up [OK ]:respect-050:

BOOGIBEAR
21-03-2009, 08:01 PM
dont shut up rabby,i value your opinion:king-041:

RABBY
21-03-2009, 08:33 PM
BOOGIBEAR

Hello m8 ?? I bought the best TV going about [ Cost a small fortune ] As i have said in other posts ? I have also bought a[ SONY LCD ~+SAMSUNG ]TV all 1080p ??

Contrast above [ 30000:1] IS Better ?? cheap makes are only [ 15000:1]



Do your homework first:respect-048:

mrbleu500
22-03-2009, 11:37 AM
mrbleu500

Believe me m8 on my Panasonic TV ?? The picture was super ? I also have a toshiba dvd upscaller to 1080p ? BUT THE PICTURE ON EUROSPORT WAS SUPER ??


You no best ?? so I will shut up [OK ]:respect-050:

Don't take it personally rabby m8, the pictures on my sammy were belting too, but broadcast 1080p isn't going to happen for a while yet, as the codecs aren't up to the job of delivering the content without using too much bandwidth. 1080p/50 would require something like 125mb/s with current compression technology, while the 1080i/25 used by satellite broadcasters peaks at less than 30mb/s, meaning they can get 4 or 5 channels on one transponder.

:king-041:

holmroad
22-03-2009, 07:32 PM
Don't take it personally rabby m8, the pictures on my sammy were belting too, but broadcast 1080p isn't going to happen for a while yet, as the codecs aren't up to the job of delivering the content without using too much bandwidth. 1080p/50 would require something like 125mb/s with current compression technology, while the 1080i/25 used by satellite broadcasters peaks at less than 30mb/s, meaning they can get 4 or 5 channels on one transponder.

:king-041:

Thats EXACTLY what I was trying to say in MY earlier post M8 - I have a Panasonic 50" 1080i 1920 x 1080 and DID do my homework before I bought it a year ago or so - so am also under the 'impression' it cannot pick up 1080P for the reasons YOU say in your post!
:respect-050:

wowwow
24-03-2009, 10:16 AM
@ rabby, the ratio only now can reflect the price, i got a 50"LG 1080p a year ago and is at 20,000:1 for a small fortune and that was one of the highest at the time, now 1yr on, and you can go tescos and get a 1000:1 for the price of a loaf of bread(not really), supply and demand is what caused the price and contrast ratio to go down, cos every one wants a nice flat telly but not every one knows what the figures are all about.