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Tarzan
03-04-2009, 09:48 AM
Hi,
I am not sure if this has been covered before but I tried to view some feeds broadcast in 4:2:2 format and I can only hear the sound but bo videos.
Does the AzBoxHD clear 4:2:2 feeds and how?
EDIT: To answer to my own question.. It works
After you scan the frequency, go to the channel list and press edit on the channel and change the flag to HD and it clears it...:number-one-043::number-one-043::number-one-043:
archiesat
03-04-2009, 10:12 AM
hi thanks can you confirm both dvb-s 4:2:2 and dvbs2 4:2:2 feeds are both working in az hd box.great news i'm sure others will be interested.
cheers archie :respect-037:
satwyn
03-04-2009, 10:14 AM
are you sure the feed is actually 4.2.2 and not 4.2.0 would be nice if the unit would work on this format
You can find feeds here.
h**p://www.satelliweb.com/index.php?section=livef
Yoda
Spanish manual attached to this thread.
satwyn
03-04-2009, 10:42 AM
what is the verdict please
Tarzan
03-04-2009, 11:26 AM
I tried this feed
Eutelsat W3A (7.0°E)
Fréquence: 10981 - Pol: H - SR: 13333 - FEC: 7/8
Catégorie: Newsfeed
Transmis en: MPEG-2 4:2:2
Infos: NATO Summit - Heads of State and Government@Strasb
I comes up as service 1, service 2 and service 3
Just go into the channel list and change the flag as HD and it clears...
Don't know about DVB-S2
tigertimtim
03-04-2009, 11:27 AM
can we have some more info and confrmation of the actual feeds please, might swap recievers if true
BE-COOL
03-04-2009, 11:36 AM
By the way, is blind scan already working with the last firmware?
With a fast and accurate blind scan and 4:2:2 this receiver will be great for feedhunters :)
Thanks.
Tarzan
03-04-2009, 11:39 AM
I am trying to find out how do perform a blind scan on this receiver..
Any ideas?
Rhodes
03-04-2009, 12:12 PM
By the way, is blind scan already working with the last firmware?
With a fast and accurate blind scan and 4:2:2 this receiver will be great for feedhunters :)
Thanks.
For now only the common blind search would be nice
:respect-060:please!, blind seach, please!:respect-061:
tinos
03-04-2009, 12:23 PM
There is no blind scan yet on receiver... probably future releases. As it will be perfect then!
satwyn
03-04-2009, 12:25 PM
asaik the feeds on 7e are mpeg2 4.2.2 or has this changed does the receiver also work on mpeg4 4.2.2
Tarzan
03-04-2009, 03:59 PM
Just tried this frequency
Intelsat 905 (24.5°W)
Fréquence: 11622 - Pol: V - SR: 5632 - FEC: -
Catégorie: Sport - Golf
Transmis en: MPEG-2 4:2:2
Infos: Golf Estoril
It's showing a blue colored chart something like "Portugal 2009"
and the following is currently not showing any signal at all
Intelsat 905 (24.5°W)
Fréquence: 11645 - Pol: V - SR: 14062 - FEC: -
Catégorie: Sport - Golf
Transmis en: MPEG-2 4:2:2
Infos: European Tour Golf: Estoril Open in HDTV/Dvb-s2
Will try more later
Magwitch
03-04-2009, 04:26 PM
Interesting. According to the spec, the video decoder only runs MPEG2 in Main Profile level@HL (4:2:0), as do most domestic STB's.
Magwitch
Tarzan
03-04-2009, 05:25 PM
just tried the following one and it works fine
Eutelsat W3A (7.0°E) Cliquez pour agrandir !
Fréquence: 11061 - Pol: V - SR: 6666 - FEC: 3/4
Catégorie: Autre
Transmis en: MPEG-2 4:2:2
Infos: Arrival of NATO heads for dinner at kurhaus baden
tigertimtim
03-04-2009, 05:51 PM
if its doing 4.2.2 ? anyone know how much and where to buy one?
xanadu
03-04-2009, 06:50 PM
anyone know how much and where to buy one?
Try the sponsors at the top of this page. ;)
Link below, just to make it even easier!
https://www.goldwafers.co.uk/home.php?cat=51
dniestre
05-04-2009, 01:33 AM
Is it possible to open 4:2:2 feeds in DVB-S2?
joshjess
13-04-2009, 12:39 PM
Great news about the 4.2.2 feeds but does it work out the box or with updated s/w?
Also, does it handle NTSC, for use in the USA / North America?
Thanks in advance
Hello,
It does 4:2:2 out of the box but there is not yet a blind scan function, so you need to know all the parameters, enter then manually then you will get the picture.
Yes Azbox does support NTSC.
Pr2
joshjess
14-04-2009, 01:34 PM
Hello,
It does 4:2:2 out of the box but there is not yet a blind scan function, so you need to know all the parameters, enter then manually then you will get the picture.
Yes Azbox does support NTSC.
Pr2
Thanks
Eugenie
14-04-2009, 05:31 PM
I seem to have read elsewhere that the AZbox does not handle HD transmissions with croma 4:2:2, only SD...so not able to handle all 4:2:2 transmissions. Anyone to confirm?
You need to set the HD Flag to clear HD channels in 4:2:2.
Click on the Menu button and then select add HD Flag and the image will come.
Zolasat
14-04-2009, 10:43 PM
You need to set the HD Flag to clear HD channels in 4:2:2.
Click on the Menu button and then select add HD Flag and the image will come.
Are you sure that you open the HD trasmission in 4:2:2 mode?
virus
14-04-2009, 11:06 PM
You need to set the HD Flag to clear HD channels in 4:2:2.
Click on the Menu button and then select add HD Flag and the image will come.
I have read in various forum that it does not open feeds 4.2.2 dvb-s2 (HD) !!!
it can show a feed 4.2.2 in dvb-s2, in this case I will buy AZbox hd.
Thanks
goran
15-04-2009, 03:53 AM
From a Spanish AZ forum [thanx to escu, translated using an online translator!]:
The machine was tested by my friend, reported their results
feeds on dvb-s and dvb-s2: l'azbox works correctly, there is no difference, that depends on the tuner that is fully dvb-s and s2
feed in dvb-s2 4:2:0 SD: ok
feed in dvb-s2 4:2:2 SD: ok
DVB-S2 feed in 1080i HD 4:2:0: ok
DVB-S2 feed in 1080i HD 4:2:2: ko
the negative test was carried out with the HD ELITE AZBOX this feed:
10/04/2009 08:57 PM Submitted by yosssi
NSS 7 (22.0 ° W)
11689 H 15000 - MPEG2 4:2:2
Sport - Golf
Masters HD (dvb/s2)
is thought that the problem depends on the chipset, a chipset Sigma, just as it is used for streaming digital media reader Popcorn Hour: The small Popcorn Hour is perfectly compatible with the video in SD and 4:2:2, in HD, only 720p format, but is not compatible with the 4:2:2 HD 1080i
I do not know if something has tested the same feed with different outcome
if the problem is real, I do not know if it can be solved with new firmware
If so go hassle and go with great difficulty that we were going well with this deco,, hope if anyone knows more of the item says something thanks
So, some HD formats are OK, only one isn't. Not bad for a Beta Stage box, I would have thought.:respect-023: Actually, quite promising!:seeya::respect-051:
antrabe
22-04-2009, 05:44 PM
:respect-046:I trust in your words but I would like to ask you when I hunt a feed 422 dvbs2 HD. I'll be ready to inform you when I can get one and then please test it and inform us.
thank you
antrabe
22-04-2009, 05:50 PM
Please test this one>
Eutelsat W3A (7.0°E)
Fréquence: 11098 - Pol: H - SR: 19200 - FEC: -
Catégorie: Sport - Natation
Transmis en: MPEG-2 4:2:2
Infos: Championnats de France (hdtv/dvb-s2)
bakoko
22-04-2009, 05:58 PM
Every Elite and Premium comes with DVB-S2 Tuner, so every Elite and Premium can open SD and HD 4:2:2 Feed without any problem. If someone is not sure, he can check by himself :)
If you try this:
Signalé par Ste le 22/04/2009 à 18:47
Eutelsat W3A (7.0°E) Cliquez pour agrandir !
Fréquence: 11098 - Pol: H - SR: 19200 - FEC: -
Catégorie: Sport - Natation
Transmis en: MPEG-2 4:2:2
Infos: Championnats de France (hdtv/dvb-s2)
not work :o10::o10:
tinos
22-04-2009, 06:47 PM
It does 4:2:0 HD right now but future firmware could decode 4:2:2 so we just need to wait. Probably new Sigma driver or bug fixes with current code. At least we know developers are working on it.
antrabe
22-04-2009, 07:31 PM
thank you tinos we are in every forum!:respect-069:
oregon
01-05-2009, 01:25 PM
It can open dvb-s2 4:2:2 feeds!! BUT...it seems to be hit and miss.
Some s2 4:2:2 feeds open but not others. The type of encoder used by the broadcaster has a bearing.
Hopefully, a fix will be issued.
sat-tv-fan
12-05-2009, 05:05 PM
This is very interesting - When can we really expect blind scan though to search for these 4.2.2 feeds ?
goran
12-05-2009, 05:19 PM
After all we've seen I think it's very unwise to say "when"... even when you do know it is coming...
So, I can only say: I have a complete confidence that eventually it will come...
One thing after the other, they will all come to the agenda...
The deadline is June/July for FW mark 1.
So far it's 0.9.x. Still Beta stage!!!:coolgleamA:
antrabe
12-05-2009, 05:49 PM
Do you know if the video output RGB will be released in this new firm?
sat-tv-fan
12-05-2009, 10:15 PM
What's this I read in the manual about no HD with component video is this the case ?
FME_fta
12-05-2009, 10:28 PM
From what says in the last firmware (0.9.2032) release notes:
1) We have planned with this release launch fixes for RGB, 4.2.2. HD contents, HE-AAC audio, however for this we need switch completely SIGMA driver, at moment we need some more time to test this new driver carefully.
We are very hard to make it work correctly on next days.
Regards.
sat-tv-fan
13-05-2009, 06:46 PM
I have just ordered one of these...I guess it has a nornal satellite scan option ? Unlimited channels also as it is a linux ?
slegs
13-05-2009, 07:32 PM
I have just ordered one of these...I guess it has a nornal satellite scan option ? Unlimited channels also as it is a linux ?
Yes to both
Murco
22-05-2009, 10:50 AM
Hello All,
I am a big tennis fan and would buy this box, however I just need to confirm if anyone has been able to watch tennis dvb-s2 4:2:2 feeds? I am unsure whether I need to wait for a new release of software?
Can anyone advise?
wildboys
23-05-2009, 08:14 PM
Hello All,
I am a big tennis fan and would buy this box, however I just need to confirm if anyone has been able to watch tennis dvb-s2 4:2:2 feeds? I am unsure whether I need to wait for a new release of software?
Can anyone advise?Most of the tennis feeds I've seen are
4.2.2 SD feeds.
bakoko
27-05-2009, 08:50 PM
Signalé par Rincewind le 27/05/2009 à 19:42
Atlantic Bird 3 (5.0°W)
Fréquence: 11049 - Pol: V - SR: 21600 - FEC: -
Catégorie: Sport - Football
Transmis en: MPEG-2 4:2:2
Infos: DVB-S2, "GCI_HD-E280/1", UCL Final in HD
Is okkkkkkkkkkkk with new firmware :respect-069::respect-069::respect-069::respect-069:
TJLOWE1
29-05-2009, 01:47 PM
Hi pimps, playin around with my new receiver, does anybody know where to find the HD flag , ??
it was wrote in a post....
"You need to set the HD Flag to clear HD channels in 4:2:2."
"Click on the Menu button and then select add HD Flag and the image will come."
but where is it ?
cheers
TJ.
gtg60
29-05-2009, 01:52 PM
Hi pimps, playin around with my new receiver, does anybody know where to find the HD flag , ??
it was wrote in a post....
"You need to set the HD Flag to clear HD channels in 4:2:2."
"Click on the Menu button and then select add HD Flag and the image will come."
but where is it ?
When you are on the channel you want to set the HD flag on, press'OK' followed by the 'Menu' button then scroll down to 'Insert HD flag' and press 'OK'
bakoko
29-05-2009, 02:33 PM
With the latest firmware does not need to enter the "FLAG HD"
TJLOWE1
29-05-2009, 05:01 PM
thanks gtg60,
found it ,
another quick question, what is the latest firmware, this machine has potential, but with no instructions in the box,its a complete new learning game.
TJ
satwyn
29-05-2009, 05:24 PM
0.9.2163 td210sp go to settings firmware upgrade and it's there last time I looked you will of course need to be connected to your router if not you can also load by usb
TJLOWE1
29-05-2009, 06:08 PM
correct, latest firmware ... 0.9.2163 td210sp... NO..... "HD flag" required.
spot on.
THANKS
TJ
goran
30-05-2009, 09:22 AM
Read the Stickies, m8...:sifone: There for a reason, trust me!:respect-050:
From Manual [can't you see it?], to how to flash it....:cool:
:cheers2:
nasky
05-06-2009, 10:54 AM
With the last firmware feeds 4:2:2 HD work perfectly :respect-059::respect-059:
Nasky's reply has convinced me to go for an Azbox. How sensitive is the tuner for weak feeds? How good is picture quality on 4.2.2 dvb-s2?
regards from a new member:cool:
SatSearcher
28-06-2009, 10:19 PM
I'm also thinking of getting an Azbox, would also like to know how sensitive the tuner is. Would also like to know whats the lowest symbol rate it can lock on to in both DVB and DVB-S2 modes. For example, with my current Humax HDCI2000 i can get as low as SR 1100 in DVB mode and an SR of 3404 in DVB-S2 mode. Can someone test it on a low SR channel in DVB-S2 mode? Distrivison on Hispasat would be a good one to try (11647V SR 1667 FEC 5/6 DVB-S2 8PSK). Thanks in advance!
Can anyone tell me for sure that they can with Azbox lock on to 4.2.2 dvbs2 feeds? and how It's achieved!
I've been trying for ages and failing. :beatdeadhorse5:
regards amn
Burnham
01-09-2009, 06:41 PM
amn - What I would suggest is you check out a working live feed from this site satelliweb.com/index.php
Try all the obvious settings, then if still stuck start a new thread
In this new thread you should put all the feed details and ask other people to confirm they can get the feed, and then ask them to say what settings they used.
Thanks Burnham, After trying everything else I changed to a new lnb and played around with the skew and lo and behold I've got the dvb-s2 tennis feeds! My fault not the Azbox!
regards amn
Tiptronic
01-09-2009, 10:39 PM
just wondering, whats exaxtly is "4.2.2"?
Burnham
02-09-2009, 01:33 PM
4:2:2 is another Digital TV transmission format. 99.9% of channels are in 4:2:0.
Google 4:2:2 for wikipedia's eight page expalanation of the techy details.
kebien
20-09-2009, 12:41 AM
They are all working since few released back,harris or any oher encoder.
Tiptronic
20-09-2009, 01:08 AM
So how do I get to watch 4:2:2? Which channels exactly are 4:2:2 (or are they all 4:2:2 already?) and do I have to do anything extra except then going to a 4:2:2 channel, like enabling it or something?
So how do I get to watch 4:2:2? Which channels exactly are 4:2:2 (or are they all 4:2:2 already?) and do I have to do anything extra except then going to a 4:2:2 channel, like enabling it or something?
I don't think you quite get it.
4:2:2 is a professional format used to distribute material. You are not really meant to see it, so this material is usually on a satellite "off the beaten track".
When the guys spot the feeds, they post them stating that they are in this 4:2:2 format.
sofrenic
20-09-2009, 11:51 AM
Eutelsat W3A (7.0°E)
Fréquence: 11079 - Pol: H - SR: 4936 - FEC: -
Catégorie: Sport - Ping-pong
Transmis en: MPEG-2 4:2:2
Infos: Table tennis EC from Stuttgart(dvb-s2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFqvm5EeVU8
transferred from:
http://www.azbox4yu.com/showthread.php?t=371&page=3
Hi Guys, What's Harris?
regards amn
Hi Guys, What's Harris?
regards amn
Harris is a US company that make (amongst other things) 4:2:2 encoders.
Tandberg is the other company usually associated with these encoders.
Does anyone knows any other 4:2:2 channels? this one is down for me.
satwyn
11-10-2009, 09:03 PM
these are usially feeds and not channels so will not be active 24/7
satwyn
11-10-2009, 09:09 PM
Harris is a US company that make (amongst other things) 4:2:2 encoders.
Tandberg is the other company usually associated with these encoders.as are codaco I use one for 4.2.2 amongst other things
these are usially feeds and not channels so will not be active 24/7
If I was David Blaine to guess if they are going to transmit something....
:banghead:
SD2006
17-10-2009, 01:47 AM
Message from Opensat:
The current tuner does not blind scan & we believe that software would take an hour for each satellite so it's of no interest.
We are working on a new DVB-S2 tuner that will be capable of blind scan.
myazbox.
ManikM
15-02-2010, 02:48 PM
BLINDSCAN is reported to work 100% on PREMIUM PLUS, can anyone confirm?
gorgeit
21-04-2010, 02:13 AM
confirm yes
bugaloo41
03-04-2013, 06:40 PM
BLINDSCAN is reported to work 100% on PREMIUM PLUS, can anyone confirm?
Defo yes mate.
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