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oldfart
01-07-2009, 04:23 PM
Here's MY view of the differences:-

Oozoon
ITV HD record & playback yes
MP3 play (out of the box) yes
DTS passthrough yes
e2_loadEPG no
save satellite positions no
easy to use no
updates available daily yes
WebTV yes

BlackHole
ITV HD record & playback no
MP3 play (out of the box) no
DTS passthrough no
e2_loadEPG yes
save satellite positions yes
easy to use yes
updates available daily no
WebTV no

seems to me that CVS images are better - you don't have to wait for the authors to re-compile for something to be fixed. With a CVS, when its fixed, you download & install

Phylos
01-07-2009, 04:27 PM
Does anyone know of an easy way to install / run cccam on oozoon?

oldfart
01-07-2009, 04:35 PM
Install
enigma2-plugin-camd-cccam.2.1.1_2.3-r1_mipsel.ipk
then
enigma2-plugin-camd-cccam.config_1.1-r0_ mipsel.ipk

got them from
_http://www.i-have-a-dreambox.com/wbb2/index.php

sonic1
01-07-2009, 06:34 PM
OoZoon Blue panel HERE (https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?p=632631#post63263 1) for you.:respect-051:

x5
01-07-2009, 06:58 PM
u cant realy compare the 2 m8
cvs its a updated image as enigma gets bugs fixes (almost every day)
blackhole just get updates whem its realy important or major update cames out

dubious
01-07-2009, 08:55 PM
Hehe, couldn't resist this one

Oozoon
e2_loadEPG yes, learn how to install manually ;)
save satellite positions yes, just install software manager
easy to use yes, just experiment a little



you can make it as easy or as hard as you like, there's not alot that you will find in BH that can't be done with oozoon as i've said my oozoon image has been installed since January and yet is bang upto date

And if you really can't live without a blue panel sonic1 has shown you the way to that one.

Just a small selection of plugins that will make your oozoon experience easier and nicer

CCcam plugin
Multiquick button plugin
Merlin MP3 player Plugin
My TubePlayer Plugin
Sherlock Plugin
IMDb plugin
Suomipoeka movie organiser plugin

Nice skins
Brushed alu-HD
SWAIN-HD

There are literally scores of plugins now available to do everything you could ever need, whilst other boxes wait for stable software our boxes move forward at an incredible pace with perfectly stable software and ever more plugins.

Something new on the horizon is vtuner = tuner sharing, so oldfart, who knows you may soon be able to use my tuner to download your epg from Astra 2D :)

Stick with oozoon and you'll soon grow to love it as you learn how to enhanced it for your needs.

oldfart
01-07-2009, 09:33 PM
I got VERY pi$$ed off using Oozoon - spent a day setting up my dish, got all my motor settings in. Move the dish, then move it back - Oozoon said "what settings" .. gone!
Took 5 mins with BlackHole!

dubious
01-07-2009, 09:47 PM
Can't blame the image for that m8, there's nothing complicated about satellite settings, it's just a text file, why didn't you just back up settings from BH and use them in oozoon ?

oldfart
01-07-2009, 10:07 PM
Can't blame the image for that m8, there's nothing complicated about satellite settings, it's just a text file, why didn't you just back up settings from BH and use them in oozoon ?

Just booted into flash (to prove a point) - Oozoon. Reloaded lists via DreamBoxEdit & even re-installed settings file. Not got any satellites/services/channels. Boo.hisss

dubious
01-07-2009, 10:21 PM
You're begining to sound rather defeatist m8 :ack2:

Do it this way as long as your 'settings' file DOES actually contain your satellite settings !?

Copy your 'settings' file to /etc/enigma2 and then from telnet issue a 'killall -9 engma2' command.

These satellite settings of mine are about 4 years old now, they come originally from my 7025 then my 800 now my 8k.

It works m8 with any image :)

oldfart
01-07-2009, 11:06 PM
did all that!

dubious
01-07-2009, 11:12 PM
did all that!

You couldn't of! but if you can't be arsed neither can I :beatdeadhorse5:

oldfart
02-07-2009, 09:56 AM
Harsh & unhelpful.
Took 3 re-boots for DM to behave.
Now, started again .. re-install of Oozoon.
Will go step by step.

dreambox17
02-07-2009, 10:10 AM
well only used BH from start find it perfect
cant understand about no itv hd recording mine works perfect from day one
i have seen a few posts saying simlar but mine records ok

meagain
02-07-2009, 10:57 AM
well only used BH from start find it perfect
cant understand about no itv hd recording mine works perfect from day one
i have seen a few posts saying simlar but mine records ok

I have had problems with BH recording ITV but have gone back to it and it now records ITV HD perhaps there's been an update. The other thing is I've been trying BA and I'm not sure whether it's this that causes the problem and also problems with medis player. I'm not using BA at present.

I've tried both images but find BH easier to use.

oldfart
02-07-2009, 04:04 PM
....
just install software manager ......

Nice skins
Brushed alu-HD
SWAIN-HD


These items are NOT available from 'download new plugins' ....

sonic1
02-07-2009, 04:15 PM
These items are NOT available from 'download new plugins' ....


Use google m8 and maybe have a look around a few other boards, you will be amazed what is out there.

SWAIN HD is by kerni so easy to find ;)

DeepDiver
02-07-2009, 04:20 PM
u cant realy compare the 2 m8
cvs its a updated image as enigma gets bugs fixes (almost every day)
blackhole just get updates whem its realy important or major update cames out

Wrong :D. It is updated when there is time for the team to do it.:respect-062:

dubious
02-07-2009, 05:33 PM
These items are NOT available from 'download new plugins' ....

Is it me loosing it or is it you ? :smilielol5:

x5
02-07-2009, 05:52 PM
Wrong :D. It is updated when there is time for the team to do it.:respect-062:

ohhh yes :beatdeadhorse5: :number-one-043:

oldfart
02-07-2009, 06:09 PM
Is it me loosing it or is it you ? :smilielol5:

wonder if we get from same source? Don't forget - not in UK, so non-UK ip address.
Mine from;-
_http://www.oozoon-dreamboxupdate.de/opendreambox/1.5/dm8000/20081220/feed/

dubious
02-07-2009, 06:44 PM
At a guess I'd say you have installed the 2.5 stable vers of oozoon

OoZooN-CVS-full-dm8000-20090629.nfi + OoZooN-CVS-lean-dm8000-20090629.nfi (enigma2 2.5 stable)

where as I have installed the dev 2.26 image aka experimental, which is where all the new stuff appears first.

OoZooN-CVS-full-dm8000-20090606.nfi + OoZooN-CVS-lean-dm8000-20090606.nfi (enigma2 2.6 dev)

sonic1
02-07-2009, 06:54 PM
At a guess I'd say you have installed the 2.5 stable vers of oozoon

OoZooN-CVS-full-dm8000-20090629.nfi + OoZooN-CVS-lean-dm8000-20090629.nfi (enigma2 2.5 stable)

where as I have installed the dev 2.26 image aka experimental, which is where all the new stuff appears first.

OoZooN-CVS-full-dm8000-20090606.nfi + OoZooN-CVS-lean-dm8000-20090606.nfi (enigma2 2.6 dev)

For sure this is the problem.

It comes back to not reading the release notes which I wonder if many people actually do :cool:

dubious
02-07-2009, 07:04 PM
I wonder if anyone ever reads anything at all m8 :victory-045:

oldfart
02-07-2009, 07:32 PM
At a guess I'd say you have installed the 2.5 stable vers of oozoon

OoZooN-CVS-full-dm8000-20090629.nfi + OoZooN-CVS-lean-dm8000-20090629.nfi (enigma2 2.5 stable)

where as I have installed the dev 2.26 image aka experimental, which is where all the new stuff appears first.

OoZooN-CVS-full-dm8000-20090606.nfi + OoZooN-CVS-lean-dm8000-20090606.nfi (enigma2 2.6 dev)

Yep - installed OoZooN-CVS-full-dm8000-20090629.nf
another re-install coming on then - ta

sonic1
02-07-2009, 07:44 PM
@oldfart,

Don't be defeated and understand that it has taken the likes of dubious and myself years to get where we are.

How I still have a loving wife I will never know as I have spend not just days but weeks and months of my life playing with my dreambox's.

The most important thing I have ever learned is that reading and reading again is the way to get your head around this.

Trust me I am no expert and I am 100% self taught by pure determination of wanting to understand and get things working well for me.

Trust me if you keep at it the way you are you will appreciate things a whole lot more.:respect-051:

passete
02-07-2009, 07:45 PM
Oozoon is a very Good Image !

But Not for "Newbies" !

oldfart
02-07-2009, 09:18 PM
So - if I install OoZooN-CVS-full-dm8000-20090606.nfi - do I have a choice of update paths??

dubious
02-07-2009, 09:31 PM
So - if I install OoZooN-CVS-full-dm8000-20090606.nfi - do I have a choice of update paths??

No, if you install 'stable' you'll get the stable path if you install 'dev' you'll get the dev path !

oldfart
02-07-2009, 10:25 PM
:party: :respect-067:
WooHoo
Thanks to Dubious & Sonic1
now have Oozoon 2.6 installed & running!