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fredda88
26-07-2009, 08:34 PM
This really looks like bad news for the azbox, someone that understands german please read and report back. Google translated some post from the thread but it wont come out very readable.

_http://forum.azb*x.to/wbb3/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=1839&pageNo=1

Have they got first hand information that Opensat is shutting the box down or what?

:confused:

AJR
26-07-2009, 08:36 PM
You have to be a member on that forum to read the post....

Can you copy and paste it ?

fredda88
26-07-2009, 08:37 PM
Posted by Boxcracker:

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SCHLIESSUNG DES BETATEST BEREICH <--Ab sofort ist der Betatestbereich geschlossen!
Wir unterstüzen ab sofort nicht weiter die Azockerpraktiken von opensat und Impex!
Diese Firmen sind nur darauf bedacht den Usern mit Schrott das Geld aus der Tasche zu ziehen!!
Die letzten Softwareerneuerungen waren nur Kosmetikverbesserungen die der verkaufspolitik der og Firmen zu gute kamen!
Diese Board lässt sich nicht weiter für diese praktiken vor die karre spannen!!
Fakt ist, dass diese Box eh nicht mehr weiter supportet wird, da schon längst ein neues Modellin der planung ist.
Es soll nur noch der lagerbestand von Impex geleert werden und das auf kosten der kunden!!
Bei diesem Spielchen mache ich nicht mit!!!!

mark666
26-07-2009, 08:42 PM
Immediately the beta test range is closed! We do not unterstüzen immediately the far Azockerpraktiken of opensat and Impex! These companies are to be only pulled on it considered the Usern with scrap iron the money from the bag!! The last software renewals were only Kosmetikverbesserungen those the marketing policy og of the companies too good came! This board can be stretched not further for these practices before the cart!! Fact is that this box is no longer supportet eh, since already long a new Modellin of planning is. The stock is to be only emptied by Impex and cost on the customers!! In this Spielchen I do not go through!!!!

fredda88
26-07-2009, 08:43 PM
Another from Boxcracker:


Das "neue Baby" liegt schon siet der anga in der schublade!!
sie wollten sich vom sigma chip trennen, da sie mit dem wohl nicht klarkommen.
Sie werden nur den reinen Mediaplayer weiter supporten, den sie auf der anga auch vorgestellt haben.
Das ht hugo mir unter zeugen mitgeteilt aber er kennt mich ja angeblich garnicht und hat noch nie mit mir gesprochen!

mark666
26-07-2009, 08:47 PM
" new Baby" lies already siet anga in the drawer!! they wanted to separate from the sigma chip, since they do not clear-come with that probably. They become only the pure Mediaplayer far supports, which they also presented on anga. Ht hugo to me under do not witness communicated however it knows me allegedly and never with me spoke!

iko
26-07-2009, 09:29 PM
bloody hell
10 min ago I've bought dm8000 and check the forum now wow
I hope it's not a serious news :(

robbiemcd
26-07-2009, 09:30 PM
i've just ordered one - should i cancel it ?

geezerpl
26-07-2009, 09:36 PM
:(((((((((((((((((((((((

iko
26-07-2009, 09:37 PM
don't panic if you don't need perfect cccam azbox works nearly perfect as it is now ;)
and I do believe that news is not true ;)

antrabe
26-07-2009, 09:46 PM
today for me cccam its working fine i have changed the new firm and i think that there was problems with ethernet and the connection was so slowly that makes cccam work with dificullties and rebooting every 5minutes.

terrorman
26-07-2009, 09:47 PM
be patient, if unable to, have to open the firm, open code ... something must be done.

If not given, it should be "pimpanearlo"

kmc
26-07-2009, 09:51 PM
i was going to get one of these to replace my db800,but think i may wait until there is a definate answer.
cheers
kmc

Robertus78
26-07-2009, 10:12 PM
And I still believe in this box. I'm just thinking the beta testers are disappointed they didn't get the VIP or King status because the firms are almost directly to the open public. Other words; they do not feel enough important so they bash Opensat.

ukpaisley
26-07-2009, 10:16 PM
Think the forums are doing most testing anyway.

hfmls
26-07-2009, 10:28 PM
trust me, this is BS. please close topic, to not spread rumours.


EVEN IF IT WAS TRUE!



so what? new beta testers would join opensat....i would be the first one.

iko
26-07-2009, 10:43 PM
could someone tell us what happened?
in English :)

hfmls
26-07-2009, 10:48 PM
it's just a move from beta testers, so opensat do something more!
i think that's well done in my opinion.
but opensat will not be lacking beta testers LOL. others will apply to be beta testers of course! :)

AJR
26-07-2009, 11:03 PM
but opensat will not be lacking beta testers LOL

If it is just a move by the existing 'beta testers' then I say good riddance to the lot of them... surely if they had been doing their job they could of prevented the bug ridden releases ..

These are the bugs that us azbox purchasers identify within 10 mins of downloading.

fredda88
26-07-2009, 11:19 PM
Well, as i understand it there wont be much to beta test in future :)

But you seem to be very sure on your self, whats your sources for the upcoming big improvement of the firmware?



next tuesday....got info that's gonna be a new firmware that everybody will enjoy :)


it will be a good month ofr azboxhd owners!!

Looking forward to tuesday....

colla
26-07-2009, 11:25 PM
Guys you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

The Betatesters corner was closed because Opensat totally ignored bug reports by the betatesters in the past
Its wasting time writing bug reports because no one is reading them

And last Firmware was released just a few ours after Betatesters got it
There was no time to report all the problems

I guarantee you that all the bugs you know
were send about 100 times to opensat
But the only reaction by Hugo was always
How many boxes were sold this week?

....

AJR
26-07-2009, 11:36 PM
Guys you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

Thank you for letting us know what was going on colla

Now we know the truth, I take back all I said about the beta testers:D

hfmls
26-07-2009, 11:39 PM
Well, as i understand it there wont be much to beta test in future :)

But you seem to be very sure on your self, whats your sources for the upcoming big improvement of the firmware?




Looking forward to tuesday....

hugo, from opensat.

colla
26-07-2009, 11:44 PM
Hehe

if you think you could do that all better :)

Become also a Betatester
thats not hard because everyone that was asking in the past could be Betatester

There was absolutely no check if you can really help the project or not
90% of the Betatestern used that position only to get the firmware a few hours before the rest ;)

And surly after a Bugreport from you everything will be better

I and the Azbox community count on you AJR ;)

tinos
26-07-2009, 11:54 PM
Now we know why bugs kept coming back on each release... what a waste of time and effort!!! Shame on OpenSAT... so many hours for nothing...

AJR
26-07-2009, 11:55 PM
Thanks for your support colla :D

But now that you have informed us of what happens with the bug reports, I would only accept the job if I had the office next to Hugo, and I can assure you that if I were to submit a bug report from the office next door, it would be done in a manner that would get hugo's full attention.. (like with a baseball bat)

But the down side is that I would be arrested...

pipino
27-07-2009, 12:12 AM
guys ,sooner or later this box will get sudden death,we seen this happening many times before ,if talking about beta testers the best ones(and real ones ) are working for dream-multimedia ,the rest all time waisters with no real access to proper sources,starting with DGstation machines ,great hardware but full of shayt inside ,i´m afraid same applies to AZbox and all the clone boxes..just remember and ask your selfs what box had a great support for more then 2 years ..i´m sure you know the answer ....best regards

colla
27-07-2009, 12:27 AM
The DGStation Machines have open source Enigma 2
soon they will also have open source Enigma 1
and the DGStation Firmware

So i dont know what you are talking about

colla
27-07-2009, 12:30 AM
But all that was not made by Opensat
It was the Community ;)

pipino
27-07-2009, 12:47 AM
never mind ,,i´v just wrote a comment and somebody snaped it from here ..thanx for free speech !!!..have nice summer holidays guys..regards

iko
27-07-2009, 12:51 AM
hehe
really I've reload the page and it's gone LOL
why is that post deleted?

hfmls
27-07-2009, 12:55 AM
Yes, but all of this infos are not true, and i know :)

But, nevermind, You will see with the time.....

I don't need to explain nothing, the time will tell You all....

amen to that. :) one start one story...the other adds more 2 lines in that story, and so on, so on :)






BY THE WAY REGARDING LAST FIRMWARE!

recording with mbox: 100%
Timeshift with MBOX: 100%
playing files that were recorded with mbox: 100%

pipino
27-07-2009, 01:02 AM
hehe
really I've reload the page and it's gone LOL
why is that post deleted?

because the truth hurts and many guys here have commercial gain out of it :)

pipino
27-07-2009, 01:04 AM
.......

hfmls
27-07-2009, 01:16 AM
i would really like that OPENSAT had a PR to come "clean" rumours, and let users know what it's going on!

i would really like an official forum!!

Rhodes
27-07-2009, 01:16 AM
because the truth hurts and many guys here have commercial gain out of it :)


I hope that is not true all this rumor, if true I am thinking of formalilar complaint in the consumer protection service of my country!:dupe:

pipino
27-07-2009, 01:18 AM
i would really like that OPENSAT had a PR to come "clean" rumours, and let users know what it's going on!

i would really like an official forum!!

perfect world doesnt exist my friend ;)

medmed
27-07-2009, 10:28 AM
hi all
another **** rumors through the forums as there are some months,
let the days past and enjoy your holiday, and after you will see that these were bla-bla.
after DVB-T and DVB-C there will be something to see but after the holidays

spikes
27-07-2009, 10:34 AM
If on tuesday there is nothing new.
I sell the azboxhd.

Yoda
27-07-2009, 10:36 AM
Yes, but all of this infos are not true, and i know :)

But, nevermind, You will see with the time.....

I don't need to explain nothing, the time will tell You all....

Well that's the end of the matter for me.

Any information that NeotionBox has posted in the past has come true, he is a very reliable guy.

Yoda

happyhammer
27-07-2009, 10:48 AM
If on tuesday there is nothing new.
I sell the azboxhd.

how much you want for it?

colla
27-07-2009, 11:04 AM
300 Euros for Premium

antrabe
27-07-2009, 11:12 AM
wait people, that what neotion say it comes true i believe him, he give us reasons to believe.

valerica
27-07-2009, 11:37 AM
If on tuesday there is nothing new.
I sell the azboxhd.

Emotions shouldn't take over reason . On tuesday there's not the end of the world ....

Cheers ,
Val .

DJBlu
27-07-2009, 12:10 PM
If on tuesday there is nothing new.
I sell the azboxhd.

If on Tuesday there is nothing new.
I do not know what I will do,
Shall I put it on e*ay or should I not
Shall I keep it and stay with you lot?

Who cares if you sell your Box?

I'll buy it €200.

kebien
27-07-2009, 12:23 PM
Emotions shouldn't take over reason . On tuesday there's not the end of the world ....

Cheers ,
Val .

If it were,he wouldn;t have time to sell his box,wouldn't he?:banghead:

hfmls
27-07-2009, 01:38 PM
i dont know what was maded by azbox.to so that we can believe in this ****** stories......

Many of you can't or dont want to see that azbox one by one, got support for dvb-t, dvb-c etc..... So for some people this is good..... Closing beta tester project can only be one: Comming of stable version of fw, and on the end you will see.....

Nice try once more to discredite azbox hd.....

Somebody said on beginning that azbox hd is racing car without wheels ?! Yes, that is true, but it is new generation racing car with jet engine ;)

just remmember, nobody can force you to buy something as money which you will pay belongs to you....

Just i need somebody to answer me ?

Can we watch fta and encrypted channel's ? ( in any combination, gbox and cccam ) yes

can we record and use timeshift option ?! yes

can we play music, videos, youtube clips, surf the internet ? yes




:)

hfmls
27-07-2009, 01:40 PM
NeotionBox, in my opinion you could talk to all opensat admins and talk to them about an offical forum, to reports bugs, read news, etc. something simple.

besides it would be a place to inform us about news, to deny rumours, etc.

nothing hard to do. and it would mean a lot to azbox hd users.

happyhammer
27-07-2009, 01:57 PM
I'll buy it €200.

that's what i was thinking...LOL

happyhammer
27-07-2009, 02:10 PM
wait people, that what neotion say it comes true i believe him, he give us reasons to believe.

yep, i bought this box even before incubusCamd was released as everything Neotionbox had said beforehand was fulfilled. When he said CCCam would come to AZBOX i believed him and now look where we are.

Yes, there are still things that need fixing, LAN and USB speed throttling being my personal biggest stumbling block at the moment. But look how much has changed in the last few months, cccam, azbox edit, various plugins etc. DJBLU has also given code to Opensat for a UK EPG with series link, how cool will that be when its released?

kanber_kav
27-07-2009, 02:36 PM
People,

I am so happy that I was right once again.

Now on MyAzBox.de and AzBox.to there is explanation !!!

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myazbox.de%2Ff orum%2Findex.php%3Fpage%3DThread% 26postID%3D5784%23post5784&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=

There was just talk of new revision not of a new model !!!

New revision using same SW as first revision !!!


Do hadware will be a change?


offfffffff

AJR
27-07-2009, 02:39 PM
I have just read the explanation...... WOW :D

tinos
27-07-2009, 02:41 PM
So we all have faulty hardware now??? We need to send it to get it repaired? I don't understand where are the good news?

So they are releasing a new model soon to replace current one because hardware is faulty... Is translation correct? now I am worried.

kanber_kav
27-07-2009, 02:47 PM
So we all have faulty hardware now??? We need to send it to get it repaired? I don't understand where are the good news?

So they are releasing a new model soon to replace current one because hardware is faulty... Is translation correct? now I am worried.

I began to worry.:001_07:

AJR
27-07-2009, 02:48 PM
tinos..

Why worry ?

yes the hardware is errrrrrrrrrrrr faulty, but the good news is that they are saying that everyone will be upgraded for free.

Not sure about the p&p though

tinos
27-07-2009, 02:49 PM
Because I remember in May when someone told us that there was faulty hardware that prevented the use of DiabloCAM on AzBox HD... So 2 months ago they already knew about this...

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=109016

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=107310

Dempsey was right on May...

AJR
27-07-2009, 03:01 PM
AJR you are in trouble now ;-)

Maybe..

I'm ready to have a nice meal of :9898: with custard.. but not quite yet, lets wait and see :D

From what the Guvnor has just posted... it seems that I'm safe (thanks kink)

hfmls
27-07-2009, 03:03 PM
well....here works all that i want! mbox 0010 and media center.

if hardware has to be substituted, from what i read, i won't need to do that! :)

but, if so! i will send it to my reseller when the time comes.


same firmware for old and new revisions! so...we're good :)

hfmls
27-07-2009, 03:07 PM
this is why a official forum or thread is need for rumours, and news! .... and a newsletter too!



this is so simple to do...and would clean all BS around foruns! and let users be calm!! this is really important thing to do.

it would show opensat cares!


but like NeotionBox said :) this matter is being thinked.

zeini
27-07-2009, 03:12 PM
Neotionbox:

There are many things are buggy in the box. And these are very important features.

A Hardwarebug is in the box. This says IMPEX - Generaldistributor for Germany and Austria.

Recording from standby don't work very often.
Unicable don't work right.
The box was selled as Twin-Tuner. But only one Tuner worked at hte same time.
If a make a recording, I can do nothing others on the box.
Under HDMI and Component are 576i@Pal and 480i@NTSC missing - on further FW this worked.
Timeshift will not run stable with an internal hard drive at Premium model.
Recordings with the Premiere-Card, yet Sky deutschland - in Alphacryptmodul are bad.
CI slot: Diablo Cam is recognized, runs however not
NG Gogo lists are often incorrect and not up to date
Photos larger 1920x1080 px can not be displayed - Image optimization is offered, but dont works.
Somtimes Crashes during FTP-Transfers of large Data
Web browser is supperted, but many pages are not supported, still no support of Flash and Java.
Web radio is missing
Reduction of standby power - 5 watts is not reached as manual say.
Multitasking between applications should be possible - e.g. TV-Records while Web browsen, movies, music, etc.
Expansion of the technical description for another line.
The box should show all Encryptions of the Channel. Also info of audio and video bitrate and resolutions (eg 720x576i/50) and video-audio codecs (MPEG2, Mpeg422, Mpg4Avc, AC3, PCM, AAC)
Speed improvement in file transfer
Possibility to connect a USB keyboard and mouse. Would be particularly important for Youtube, Webbrowsing, ...
When playing movies (or Records, or timeshift), it would be desirable to jump to a user selected period / minute
Installation of a deep-standby (over remote control).
Cutting ability of recorded movies. In particular, advertising and pre-and post-run to cut them.
Possibility by default of pre-and post-race for all recordings by the user.
It would be desirable instead of the date/time to a change into RECORDING/AUFNAHME in Display.
Automatic detection of the sent / present resolution + automatic switching in this format!
Playing back a recording - it works so well for Timeshift.
Scroll by page in the folder Media audio / video / photo with the left / right button
If these bugs and wishes are fixed, you can say the box is well!

kanber_kav
27-07-2009, 03:14 PM
That post is confusing. I think some clarity is needed here...

The fault is minor and wont affect 99.9% of you so no need to panic.

The hardware fault only affects anyone wanting to use the AZBox HD for non satellite use, i.e. if you removed the DVB-S2 tuner and installed a DVB-T & DVB-C tuner together then it's a problem.

If you have a DVB-S2 & DVB-T tuner installed it's ok
If you have a DVB-S2 & DVB-C tuner installed it's ok
If you have a DVB-C & DVB-T tuner installed it's NOT ok.

I hope that helps put minds at ease.

DVB-s2 & DVB-s2 ?
and diablo-cam ?

work ?

DJBlu
27-07-2009, 03:23 PM
DVB-s2 & DVB-s2 ?
and diablo-cam ?

work ?

I think what kinkdink is saying is the fault only affects non DVB-S2, the rest of the faults are Software only.

AJR
27-07-2009, 03:26 PM
the rest of the faults are Software only.

Thats what I'm hoping ...

hfmls
27-07-2009, 03:35 PM
that's what we read. so it's true :) i have no plans on using dvb-c and dvb-t

only dvb-s2 and dvb-t :)

so i'm good :P

geezerpl
27-07-2009, 03:45 PM
Can we watch FTA and Encrypted channel's ? ( In any combination, gbox and cccam )
Can we record and use timeshift option ?!
Can we play Music, Videos, YouTube clips, Surf the Internet ?

Semi yes.

> I get micro-freezes every 20-30-60 minutes and "SCRAMBLED" on the screen twice, three times a day - using newcs+mg (released 24.05), openxcas and FW 2880 (Nagra 3 or Seca 4 cards in the slot).
Tried dozen of possible configs...
> video rewind - doesn't work, no "jump-to" feature

Here a list of features promised by Opensat and not delivered or partially working:


> Smart Tuner Support
> DVB-S2/S; DVB-T2/T
> DVB-C2/C; ISDB-T
> GOGO List Funktion
> Video On Demand
> Web Interface
> Webradio
> E-mail Client (POP Only)
> Audio & Music portals Support

I could live without all of that in return for STABLE newcs+mgcamd ...

hanswurscht
27-07-2009, 03:53 PM
a lot of **** in a Newletter from a guy who sells Sharelines, lovely :)

Sorry, Guys, but I dont understand the Hype about some Words from a ......

Wait and see , the Box is good and I dont believe about Words from a sharelineseller!

hfmls
27-07-2009, 04:12 PM
Semi yes.

> I get micro-freezes every 20-30-60 minutes and "SCRAMBLED" on the screen twice, three times a day - using newcs+mg (released 24.05), openxcas and FW 2880 (Nagra 3 or Seca 4 cards in the slot).
Tried dozen of possible configs...
> video rewind - doesn't work, no "jump-to" feature

Here a list of features promised by Opensat and not delivered or partially working:


> Smart Tuner Support
> DVB-S2/S; DVB-T2/T
> DVB-C2/C; ISDB-T
> GOGO List Funktion
> Video On Demand
> Web Interface
> Webradio
> E-mail Client (POP Only)
> Audio & Music portals Support

I could live without all of that in return for STABLE newcs+mgcamd ...


mbox with newcs works really good. try it :)

web interface is a must have, and stream to pc too!

kanber_kav
27-07-2009, 04:20 PM
_http://forum.azbox.to/wbb3/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=1839&pageNo=6

new hadware cpu sh4 (Boxcracker) mesage no=102


Boxcracker
mesage no=97
Quote

Zu Impex:
Befragt einfach mal einige grosse deutsche Sathändler zu deren geschäftspraktiken und bildet dann euer eigenes Urteil!

In deren ersten beitrag und sogar schon im ersten Satz steht schon wieder die unwahrheit!!
Die geplante neue Box soll einen ganz anderen Prozessor besitzen, so dass die soft garnicht kompatibel sein kann!!!







:(

Sale azbox premium (350 euro)

hfmls
27-07-2009, 05:17 PM
can someone translate?

why are u selling your azbox hd ?

it was allready told to us that new revision is only needed if you're gonna use dvb-c and dvb-t together

If you have a DVB-S2 & DVB-T tuner installed it's ok
If you have a DVB-S2 & DVB-C tuner installed it's ok
If you have a DVB-C & DVB-T tuner installed it's NOT ok.

AJR
27-07-2009, 05:20 PM
It says..

To Impex:
When asked just a few large German Sathändler to their business practices and will form your own opinion!

In their first contribution, and even in the first sentence is again the untruth!
The planned new box is a completely different processor, so that the soft garnicht can be compatible!

ceyer
27-07-2009, 05:40 PM
They also confirmed that this HW fault also affects the
use of the CI and makes them virtually unusable (so don´t expect a
fix for that)

quote: Neotionbox:
"They said on myazbox.de that they will replace "

Do you really believe this???

I really wanted this box to be as good as it was announced, but I´m
very dissappoined and angry.
I´ve sold the box and I´m not regretting it (apart from the 100€ I´ve lost).

hfmls
27-07-2009, 05:49 PM
i only believe what admins say. and i'll stick to that. i try everytime in the foruns to calm users down...but i'm gonna give up. believe in what u want.

i have faith in this box, and allways will have. it works good for me, and yesterday firmware improved it a lot.

tinos
27-07-2009, 07:07 PM
So tomorrow Tuesday we get really good news!!! Isn't it? From Hugo directly?

hfmls
27-07-2009, 07:20 PM
i can't remember wich opensat admin told me...but i know someone did!

so yes, he tould me tuesday we would get news.

geezerpl
27-07-2009, 07:21 PM
I hope we won't end up like infamous KISS (Linksys) player users in 2007/2008. Very similar story all the way...
A couple of FW upgrades, 2 steps FWD, 3 steps back and ..sudden product death.
And so what that we had a Linksys managed forum to provide feedback on bugs ?! There was even a FW development roadmap !
I'LL NEVER BUY ANYTHING from those greedy *astards !


http://forums.linksysbycisco.com/linksys/board/message?message.uid=130268

hfmls
27-07-2009, 07:29 PM
it won't! believe me. and believe ADMINS!

Accord
27-07-2009, 07:30 PM
A new AZbox model is being planned?

_http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.myazbox.de%2Ff orum%2Findex.php%3Fpage%3DThread% 26postID%3D5784%23post5784&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=

iko
27-07-2009, 07:43 PM
They fedup from that sigma CPU
sh4 probably will be cpu for the next model ;)
good luck to all...

sami8519
27-07-2009, 07:55 PM
hahaha. Nice!

hfmls
27-07-2009, 08:02 PM
well i still think sigma is better for multimedia purposes.

lazo
27-07-2009, 08:13 PM
cool

xanadu
27-07-2009, 11:04 PM
Quote from another forum...


Today OpenSat write the following email:

Dear Sir,

During this month we are improving some functions that need a lot of time to be got working, for this reason the updates are slow. Anyway our full team is working very hard on bug fixes and put attention at customer needs.

Best regards,
Hugo Condessa




I am not panicking like some on here....yet. :D

DJBlu
27-07-2009, 11:25 PM
Just to let you know,

I have received an email from Hugo and I don't think there is no Chipset change coming. Their new MediaPlayer has the Sigma 8634LF too.

I think we have all been conned by some to discredit this company.

It's amazing what some people will do to protect their revenue streams.

hfmls
27-07-2009, 11:28 PM
like i said!! please ADMIN MAKE FINAL STATEMENT AND CLOSE TOPIC! PLEASE.

hfmls
27-07-2009, 11:46 PM
like i said!! please ADMIN MAKE FINAL STATEMENT AND CLOSE TOPIC! PLEASE.

FINISHED A LONG TALK WITH HUGO FROM OPENSAT IN MSN:

ME: about azbox hd beta testers? what's the situation?
HUGO: beta testers didn't quit, we opensat, kicked them out. new betatester organization is being done! soon you will know what :)

ME: what about new revision, new hardware, new box?
HUGO: nothing is gonna change! all goes according to planned. all is ok! working in new firmwares! news soon. same azbox hd elite and premium!
conclusion: all hardware still is the same, and it will be in future!!!



about beta testers: renewing the beta tester structure. wait for good news in future :)
more news i will post here!

pipino
27-07-2009, 11:55 PM
keep waiting while others intruduce new and advanced stuff

hfmls
27-07-2009, 11:58 PM
yes, from the guy who sold his azbox today.

you will bite your tongue. you did good to believe in BS :)

no offence.

iko
28-07-2009, 12:00 AM
like i said!! please ADMIN MAKE FINAL STATEMENT AND CLOSE TOPIC! PLEASE.

FINISHED A LONG TALK WITH HUGO FROM OPENSAT IN MSN:

ME: about azbox hd beta testers? what's the situation?
HUGO: beta testers didn't quit, we opensat, kicked them out. new

Well done!:bravo-009:[/SIZE]

AJR
28-07-2009, 12:19 AM
Its Tuesday now.... where's the release :D

hfmls
28-07-2009, 12:21 AM
lol.. :) well bad thougts are now gone. ;)

all rumours flaming azbox were denied. now i'm gonna try to know what's the big news they were talking :S

tinos
28-07-2009, 12:27 AM
New labels to stick over box covers with new specs??? he he he just a joke! ;-) Couldn't resist...

hfmls
28-07-2009, 12:30 AM
well is seems tuesday was the day to firmware to be released. but it was releaased yesterday.

besides a new team of beta testers will be recruted in august 1st , hopefully i'll be one of them, i applied, and i think i'm gonna be one of them, hopefully :)

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conclusion: all goes normal in azbox world this last 2 days were just rumours trying to take down azbox.
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more news i'll post... but expect a faster and better development now!

tinos
28-07-2009, 12:34 AM
So no big news today after all?... old firmware was the big deal?

Could you please confirm if OpenSAT.de post about a new hardware revision of the AzBox to fix tuner issues is also fake advertisement from Dreambox?

hfmls
28-07-2009, 12:37 AM
yes it's fake. no problems regarding hardware or whatsoever. other subject and problems under the table regarding those users who said that. nothing for us to worry about.

everything goes like it was days ago..the only difference is, betatesters kicked out, new team, august 1st.
a more reliable and hardworker team.

iko
28-07-2009, 12:38 AM
SAli Sallanir LOL
p.s
Betatesters deserve more respekt !
Kicked out ..
That is RudE!!!

hfmls
28-07-2009, 12:43 AM
well, that were the exactly words :S sorry.
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DJBlu
28-07-2009, 12:49 AM
SAli Sallanir LOL
p.s
Betatesters deserve more respekt !
Kicked out ..
That is RudE!!!

Not when the beta testers are the ones spreading rumours m8.

True beta testers are the dogs b*llox, they can save you so much time and effort in the long run.

It seems that OpenSat are in a position where they do not know who to trust.

hfmls
28-07-2009, 12:53 AM
that's why beta testers area is being made from scratch with only people that they truste.

opensat is a portuguese company, most of beta testers will be people well known from opensat, and who live near here in portugal, like i said i will be one of them, :P
day 1 ihihihih

fredda88
28-07-2009, 01:00 AM
Thats just stupid! They need to spread the beta testers all over europe since they distribute the box all over.

The problems you have there in portugal might not be the same in the UK or Scandinavia.

tinos
28-07-2009, 01:05 AM
Agree on need to spread beta testers... but I think Opensat won't make that mistake...

Thanks hfmls for clearing up all these deadly news about hardware issues... hope we can get at last some fixes on firmware that really shows what this box is capable of. Real Dual Tuner support and working CAMs will really help erase bad dreams and lies posted by old betatesters.

PS Seems old betatesters are a more reliable source of information after all... confirmed hardware fix needed to fix CICAMs... don't know about Dual Tuner...

hfmls
28-07-2009, 01:27 AM
"most of beta testers will be people well known from opensat"

most of them,not all of course. it's gotta start from a solid base well known people :)


believe me, from my side, i will have giant ears and eyes to check all bugs! :)
if u like, send me in english a complete list of known important bugs. and detailed step by step, how that bug, crash happened list. so it will be easier to check it out.
not a request new functions list.

by pm

sami8519
28-07-2009, 01:27 AM
So there is no hardware problems in the azbox? If so, then why some boxes do and others dont run diablo cam?

Thanks.

NoMaD
28-07-2009, 01:35 AM
So no big news today after all?... old firmware was the big deal?

Could you please confirm if OpenSAT.de post about a new hardware revision of the AzBox to fix tuner issues is also fake advertisement from Dreambox?
Hi mate
Do you think that dreambox have time to loose with you or azbox

the only advertisement that dreambox do Today , is 100 patchs/improvements/bugfix ;)
http://git.opendreambox.org/

sorry guys for link , i couldn't resist :sifone:

hfmls
28-07-2009, 01:36 AM
well i don't have that cam, can't say for sure.
but hardware is same in every box. never changed. try latest firmware, if nothing works. try format application area, then put latest firmware via menu, update by internet.

if that doesn't help, try sending an email to opensat, they will answer.
if possible send the problem by pm, with log by telnet with a box that works and other that doesn't.

so i can try to check it out.

hfmls
28-07-2009, 01:37 AM
Hi mate
Do you think that dreambox have time to loose with you or azbox

the only advertisement that dreambox do Today , is 100 patchs/improvements/bugfix ;)
http://git.opendreambox.org/

sorry guys for link , i couldn't resist :sifone:

i didn't say that was dreambox who did it.

i said that was fake news, bad news. not true :)

the reason is a completely different reason :)

sami8519
28-07-2009, 01:46 AM
well i don't have that cam, can't say for sure.
but hardware is same in every box. never changed. try latest firmware, if nothing works. try format application area, then put latest firmware via menu, update by internet.

if that doesn't help, try sending an email to opensat, they will answer.
if possible send the problem by pm, with log by telnet with a box that works and other that doesn't.

so i can try to check it out.

Thanks. I dont have the cam, but I read what Tinos has posted in this thread about old discussions in which he reached to the conclusion that there is some differences or modifications in later boxes that enabled them to run the cam. Anyway, I might be wrong or did not understand the issue completely.

hfmls
28-07-2009, 01:51 AM
gonna try to check it out

zubus
28-07-2009, 05:06 AM
Hi,
I emailed azbox support asking about hardware errors for the CI and tuners the reply was:

"Was not Hardware error, simply at beginning we don0t suppose to support Diablo Cams on our receiver. It’s not any vital feature. If you really need use this cam we can go ahead, but unless you use Diablo cam is not recommended sent box for this because you will lost some days of TV when box goes and back, however if need we do it without any charge to you."

I am waiting to hear back from them now about getting it sorted, although the diablo is not opening too much at the mo.

Ian

tinos
28-07-2009, 08:22 AM
Ok... all lies again... there is a hardware fix for CICAMs... don't know about Dual tuner... but with all these I cannot trust your posts again...

From one of my partners...


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Message From
Some one needs Technical Support at AzBox.com

Name
Eduardo

Country
España

Choose Product
AzBox Elite HD

Choose Product
AzBox Premium HD

Software Version
0.9.2880

Type of issue
Bug detected

Type of issue
Request Functions

Subject
Varias

Desciption
Hola El deco esta muy bien pero es muy importante y somos muchos los usuarios que necesitamos que reconozca la CAM de Al Jazeera Sports (en satelite NILESAT). Si tiene Common Interface pero no se puede usar es como si no lo tuviera.. la mayoria de los decos reconocen esta cam (incluso decos de hace 6 y 8 años) asi que no tiene sentido que este no lo haga. Además cuando tienes la cam puesta , no funcionan los otros canales codificados que tienes y que son de otro Sat. Otra cosa importante, ya que tiene twin tunner, es que se pueda grabar un canal y ver otro diferente (ya sea de SAT o de TDT) pero si no se puede, al menos que si se pueda ver SAT cuando grabas TDT y al reves.. Un saludo y espero que lo antes posible se pongan con el primer tema, es de suma importancia. Gracias


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Me han contestado lo siguiente:

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Estimado Eduardo,

Caso usted necesite utilizar dicha CAM necesitamos hacer-le unas alteraciones, esas alteraciones serán libres de coste pero tardan cerca de 10 días.


Saludos Cordiales

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So they claim that to fix CICAMs you need to send box for repair (10days)... I can confirm that Diablo CAM doesn't work (have Kathrein where it works Ok to confirm). But not only Diablo fails... Aljazzera Nilesat too... and probably others as reported before...