ITV HD Terrestial [Archive]

dave3dg

20-08-2009, 07:16 AM

Can't see this posted yet:

"ITV bringing ITV1 HD to Freeview

ITV has agreed to launch a high definition simulcast of ITV1 on Freeview in time for the World Cup tournament next year, according to reports.

Plans to bring ITV1 HD to the Freeview platform were announced yesterday as part of the broadcaster's half-year financial results. This move follows the agreement of a carriage deal between ITV and the BBC for the release of digital terrestrial television bandwidth for the channel's launch.

ITV1 HD will be made available in the UK in line with Freeview's planned launch schedule for high definition services, with transmissions due to commence at the Winter Hill transmitter on December 2.

Following this, Freeview has plans for 50% of UK homes to be able to receive Freeview HD for the 2010 World Cup in South Africa next June. Customers will need to purchase new set top box equipment to receive the service, with the Digital TV Group recently confirming that at least two such products should reach the market by the end of this year.

ITV is also currently "looking at the options" with regards to ITV1 HD on Freesat, where the channel is currently offered as a red button-only service as opposed to a distinct channel or simulcast.

In an interview with Digital Spy, Freesat trade marketing manager James Atkins said that the free-to-air satellite platform would hope to carry a similar distinct ITV1 HD channel as is destined for Freeview.

"I think that we would expect to receive a full simulcast of ITV1 in high definition, although there is no commitment at this stage," he said. "But as it's from a public service broadcaster then we would expect it to become available."

Source: DigitalSpy"

TOWER

21-08-2009, 01:00 AM

Set top boxes should be available in time for the Granada area switchover in November,and certainly no later than Xmas.No prices have been quoted,but at least two receivers should be available

tr8.

24-08-2009, 08:51 AM

Will my TM6900super which is HD and has freeview hd in it work with it?

howaboutthisonethen

24-08-2009, 10:25 AM

Will my TM6900super which is HD and has freeview hd in it work with it?

I was wondering the same thing. I had a look at Technomates website and the model we have does have an HD tuner for sat and terrestrial so I think it should work. Lets hope so anyway

xanadu

24-08-2009, 12:36 PM

Will my TM6900super which is HD and has freeview hd in it work with it?

No.

DVB-T terrestrial tuners (MPEG-2/MPEG-4/H.264)

It would need to be a DVB-T2 tuner.

There is no such equipment ever been mass produced for the UK as yet.

FOX

24-08-2009, 03:48 PM

bamber

24-08-2009, 04:10 PM

There are possibly three ways to receive the new HD transmissions on terrestrial TV. In my order of preference, they would be:

1. A software upgrade for existing HD sets, if this is technically possible. Even if it is, then probably only the major manufacturers would be prepared to do it.

2. A CAM containing the DVB-T2 software. I would guess that this is technically possible, because I remember a while back that one of the satellite **** packages (***view?) started an MPEG-4 channel and marketed a CAM to plug into an MPEG-2 receiver. All Satpimps, of course, would have been sensible enough to buy an HD television with a CI slot. Such a CAM should also work in the CI slot of a TM6900HD.

3. A separate set-top box (a daft name nowadays - try balancing one on top of a slimline TV!).

UK2cyp

25-08-2009, 11:48 PM

I have TM6900Super and I am in France where we do have TNT equivalent to Freeview in UK. I am getting ARTE HD no problem but do not get the sound on other 3 HD channels (FR2,TF1 and M6 HD channels) but I think (to be confirmed) this is to do with the TV that I both in UK.

I receive these channels also.There is now a fix for the Dolby+ audio.
The TM 6900 displays HD dtt perfectly

Thanks

FOX

26-08-2009, 05:10 PM

I receive these channels also.There is now a fix for the Dolby+ audio.
The TM 6900 displays HD dtt perfectly

Thanks
Thanks UK2Cyp. If you do receive FR2, TF1 and M6 in HD with the sound and through terrestrial, can you please elaborate on the fix and how to implement it.

Thanks

xanadu

26-08-2009, 05:53 PM

I have TM6900Super and I am in France where we do have TNT equivalent to Freeview in UK. I am getting ARTE HD no problem but do not get the sound on other 3 HD channels (FR2,TF1 and M6 HD channels) but I think (to be confirmed) this is to do with the TV that I both in UK.

This thread is about ITV HD in the UK.

Any current DVB-T receivers will not be of any use for the UK HD transmissions due to start later this year in some areas, as they will be using DVB-T2 system.

Although still compatible with DVB-T broadcasts you will only receive the SD channels on existing DVB-T Freeview type receivers.

There are various USB DVB-T receivers that state they can receive HD which may well be true in some countries such as France, but they will not get any of the DVB-T2 HD transmissions.

RABBY

26-08-2009, 06:23 PM

xanadu

Hello m8 ? I Have a [ DVB-T Digital TV USB Stick ] For my Lappy ?? Tested it a few weeks ago when i was away ?[Next to a Transmitter in the Highlands of Scotland ] Great Picture on the Freeview channels [SD*V ] But this also states it does [ HDTV ] Will wait and see iff it works !! Great Buy at £15 @ Even has a remote controll:sifone:

newsatbox

26-08-2009, 06:27 PM

Hope to be watching the footy tonight on ITV HD with the AZbox watched Smokey and the Bandit his afternoon which was a waste of time as quality was no better.
Panaonic's new blu-ray recorder with twin freesat tuner also picking up HD perfect.
Though even with a 1.2mtr dish every thing has to be in good nick (up here in the north east) so a new LNB is on it's way.
Norman.

xanadu

26-08-2009, 06:28 PM

Hi Rabby,

I have one of those 'HD' sticks.

It will work in some countries, like Ireland or France maybe, as they use old technology.

I bought mine about 2 years ago.

AJR

26-08-2009, 06:43 PM

But this also states it does [ HDTV ] Will wait and see iff it works !!

Hi RABBY

It very probably does do HD.... but only if its HD on DVB-T, it will not be T2 compatible.

RABBY

26-08-2009, 07:37 PM

AJR @ xanadu

HD Will not work on my Lappy Anyway [ 3 Years old ] Have the software on my new computer to test ? But as you say [ DVB-T2 ] Maybe using Skystar HD Card [ There maybe a fix on that Path ] Wee will have to wait and see;)

P.S [ newsatbox ] Wrong thread m8 [ITV bringing ITV1 HD to Freeview
] Just going to watch the footy myself on HD :sifone:

toffa58

26-08-2009, 07:44 PM

~@Rabby,

Being a scotchman m8, you must be supporting Celtic, I hope they dont get beaten by too much. toffa58:number-one-043::woot-035:

bonovox

26-08-2009, 07:44 PM

Doesn't mean for all regions though I assume. I would think its to do with the switch off of analogue and only those who are switched off will have access to ITV HD through freeview. People like me who are not getting analogue switched off until 2012 will not be getting HD through freeview. Maybe I'm wrong about that but anyway if I'm not its a good job I got satellite then eh!;)

AJR

26-08-2009, 07:55 PM

Doesn't mean for all regions though I assume.
Correct

The peeps who have to do a retune in September will be clearing one of the mux's for T2 transmissions... but as to when transmissions or tests will start, I don't know.

bonovox

26-08-2009, 08:47 PM

xanadu

26-08-2009, 08:59 PM

Yeah thought as much. Its nearly 2010 and still no HD on freeview. A bit of a shambles if you ask me. Although I really do like watching bidup tv, qvc and that other crap thats taking up space that could be used for the main channels to show HD programmes.

The thing is, that those shopping channels are making more money than ITV, so you are more likely to get your favourite shopping channel in HD. :D :cool:

QVC were one of the first to go widescreen 16/9 format. :)

RABBY

26-08-2009, 09:14 PM

toffa58

Being a scotchman m8, you must be supporting Celtic, I hope they dont get beaten by too much. toffa58

I only support MYSELF :sifone: No time for Anything Else:woot-035:

TonyO

27-08-2009, 12:13 AM

This presuming ITV are in business then ! they are in free fall.

martin007

27-08-2009, 01:16 AM

I have TM-6900 HD COMBO Super,+ Philips 42in 1080p. I run a 15mtr HDMI Cable from my amp, Which is a Sony 3 in, one out 1080p output. I live on the west coast of Ireland. I put up a Digital Ariel on roof, and hay presto a picture, now I know at the moment it is only SD so can't comment on HD terrestrial but the pic is well lets say not far off HD. Cheers, :cheers2:

3tv

28-08-2009, 08:08 PM

will it be full 1920x1080 or hd lite ?

armo

02-09-2009, 04:50 PM

will it be full 1920x1080 or hd lite ?

It won't be either............you need a DVB-T2 to receive HD terrestrial which the 6900 does not have. You can receive ITV HD at 1080i via Freesat at 28.2E though through the DVB-S2 tuner.
Hope this helps.
armo

3tv

03-09-2009, 04:57 PM

It won't be either............you need a DVB-T2 to receive HD terrestrial which the 6900 does not have. You can receive ITV HD at 1080i via Freesat at 28.2E though through the DVB-S2 tuner.
Hope this helps.
armo on sat its only 960x1080i with a fiixed bitrate. It sux, hope Terestrial will be full HD

cowboy

03-09-2009, 06:01 PM

ive got tv with built in freesat will that be ok doki

xanadu

03-09-2009, 06:05 PM

ive got tv with built in freesat will that be ok doki

No good for HD Terrestrial unless you have a DVB-T2 tuner installed which is very unlikely.

fred fickle

08-09-2009, 01:58 AM

I was wondering the same thing. I had a look at Technomates website and the model we have does have an HD tuner for sat and terrestrial so I think it should work. Lets hope so anyway

The sat part will work with future Hd mpeg4 but the terrestrial part will not as it is not DVB-T2 compliant which will need a new chip.

Aldo

15-09-2009, 09:35 PM

@xanandu

No.

DVB-T terrestrial tuners (MPEG-2/MPEG-4/H.264)

It would need to be a DVB-T2 tuner.

There is no such equipment ever been mass produced for the UK as yet.

I've just seen this info on another forum:

Pace has given details of what is expected to be the first DVB-T2 high definition receiver capable of receiving signals from the UK’s new terrestrial high definition service, Freeview HD.
Pace has worked closely with UK free-to-air digital TV service provider Freeview and UK broadcasters, including the BBC, to develop the new set-top box and to ensure that it complies fully with the DVB-T2 standard. Freeview hopes to achieve up to 50% HD coverage across the UK by the time the World Cup begins in June next year, well ahead of the 2012 Olympic Games.
The technology evolution that DVB-T2 brings in the form of HD channels creates the climate for a box that has broad market relevance. Pace expects to launch its Freeview DVB-T2 set-top box in the first half of 2010, but it can be deployed in any country that opts to use the standard to deliver DTT HDTV services.
The company expects to be first to market when it launches the device in the first half of 2010, even so it will still be several weeks after the start of official services from the Winter Hill transmitter serving Manchester and Liverpool on December 1. Pace will follow up its launch with an HD PVR version.
Preparations for the launch of the HD multiplex begin on September 30, when Freeview viewers across the UK will be required to retune their receivers, in order to pick up signals from within the reorganised multiplexes that will free up capacity for HD services.
Earlier this week the DVB-T2 specification was formally approved as ETSI EN 302 755 by the European Telecommunication Standards Institute.
A number of other manufacturers are demonstrating DVB-T2 at IBC 2009 including Albis Technologies, Arqiva, DekTec, Enensys, Harris, Pace, Rohde & Schwarz, Tandberg, and TeamCast.
Other manufacturers planning DVB-T2 equipment launches include CellMetric, Cisco, Digital TV Labs, Humax, NXP Semiconductors, Panasonic, ProTelevision Technologies, Screen Service, SIDSA, Sony, ST Microelectronics and T-VIPS.

fred fickle

16-09-2009, 04:43 PM

A humax DVB-T HD2000Ci was produced for Ireland to test there new DVB service which will use mpeg4 SD and HD transmissions they are presently testing on channel 54 in the eastern part of Ireland so should be receivable in west Wales and the I.O.M .
They also tested a HD transmission last year so the software is there already so maybe possibly a software update to existing HD receivers may well suffice.

As regards ITV if they can not provide a SD service on satellite heaven help us waiting for ITV HD on DVB-T2.

holmroad

16-09-2009, 06:04 PM

Its taken ITV long enough to produce HD in ANY kind of transmission method!! lol!!:congratulations-008

xanadu

16-09-2009, 06:18 PM

possibly a software update to existing HD receivers may well suffice.

It won't be a software update.

The original DVB-T2 decoder prototype was bigger than a desktop PC, so there is no way that will be emulated in software updates to existing DVB-T receivers.

fred fickle

17-09-2009, 12:19 PM

It won't be a software update.

The original DVB-T2 decoder prototype was bigger than a desktop PC, so there is no way that will be emulated in software updates to existing DVB-T receivers.

Yes and the first PC was larger than a 3 bedroom house so prototype size is irrelevent nowadays.

Satcat

02-11-2009, 01:30 PM

Page 9991 on Red button.
Quote:- High definition TV is coming to Freeview. As part of this development, the BBC is decommissioning two interactive streams from 27 October 2009.
Feeeview viewers will no longer see the BBC News Multiscreen and one of the interactive streams (302)

kenrea

30-11-2009, 01:19 PM

Satcat

30-11-2009, 01:25 PM

@Kenrea
See post 5

slegs

30-11-2009, 01:29 PM

The Technomate 6900 super has the ability to receive hd terrestrial transmissions, this is from their website

2 High Definition Tuners: DVB-S/DVB-S2 Satellite & DVB-T Terrestrial Compliant (MPEG-2 / MPEG-4 / H.264)

HD TV can be transmitted over DVB-S (like BBC HD), DVB-S2(like Sky Premiere HD), DVB-T (like French HD terrestrial),and DVB-T2 (like Freeview HD). DVB-S2 and DVB-T2 are more efficient than their predecessors and as a result you can carry more channels on the "2" versions of transponders/muxes

HD is usually encoded in MPEG4 as it is more efficient with bandwidth than MPEG2 (which is what regular UK Freeview uses).

In Ireland our version of Freeview is DVB-T/MPEG4
In UK Freeview is DVB-T/MPEG2 and Freeview HD will be DVB-T2/MPEG4

The Technomate 6900Super Combo like many other similar boxes is DVB-T/MPEG4

You will not be able to receive Freeview HD on these boxes.

The Pace that is mentioned above and a new Humax model are the only DVB-T2/MPEG4 models I have seen mentioned to date.

Prontopro

30-11-2009, 01:35 PM

The Technomate 6900 super has the ability to receive hd terrestrial transmissions, this is from their website

2 High Definition Tuners: DVB-S/DVB-S2 Satellite & DVB-T Terrestrial Compliant (MPEG-2 / MPEG-4 / H.264)

I'm not sure you're correct. The receiver has the ability to upscale DVB-T Freeview only. It doesn't have a DVB-T2 compliant tuner. There are currently no available DVB-T2 tuners. Earliest will be next year.

It also makes the 6900HD Super a bit of dead duck without it being upgraded.

kenrea

30-11-2009, 01:50 PM

I stand corrected, have just phoned Technomate and they confirm that the
6900 super is not T2 compliant, confirms your comments

keith mawer

30-11-2009, 06:00 PM

hi i had a new techomate 6800 hd today and have tuned in the channels i want ok INCLUDING bbc hd( ON 28.2),,
i found itv hd as freq 11.428h 27500 it shows a high signal .. but when i scan does not show on the menu ,,, am i doing something wrong ..
PLEASE BE NICE TO ME !!!

fred fickle

30-11-2009, 06:09 PM

Usually on that transponder it picks up only 2 channel ,brit shorts and a number I think it begins with 50920 something like that and that is the ITV stream ,it shows a logo when it is off air(which is most of the time) so you should see this.

lio

30-11-2009, 07:51 PM

skomedal

30-11-2009, 08:06 PM

Wonder if someone could help me please, I've got the Kaon HD receiver from D'alb, KSF-660, tried entering the frequencies on Astra 28.2 and it only brings up the brit shorts channel, not the other mentioned, which i presume is the ITV-HD?

Cheers
lio

Cannot see what this thread name has to do with satelitte reception?

Title " ITV HD Terrestial " not satelitte!

Maybe im wrong, if so dissregard this post.

Start your own threads on this subject in the correct section, do not h1jack this one.

Regards

keith mawer

01-12-2009, 02:00 AM

att fred fickle,,, i saw the itv stream ,, well it says itv stream 22 and another 44.... but on 1 there is nothing on the other a yellow logo in top left corner but no broadcast or anything,, so still not sure,, seems odd