Technomate 6800 super + [Archive]

Satcat

14-10-2009, 06:56 PM

I've just splashed out and ordered a Technomate 6800 super + so I'm busy at the moment looking at all the threads relating to this receiver. There is a lot of good information on here for me to try and take in, but I'm sure that when I receive it I will no doubt be seeking help or pointing in the right direction. So thanks in advance.
Regards Satcat.

Giga

14-10-2009, 07:46 PM

only difference would by the terrestrial receiver. If using channel list from a TM 6900 HD super you would have to delete the terrestrial group frequencies. (Clarke Tech Studio (https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=110802)) <= click here.
guess that 8 2 8 1 (https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=114462) would be the same as the ethernet (https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=113433) use?

If you putting an network cable in place, put in a good rs232 cable to, good shielded.
If you make the cable yourself: nullmodem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_modem) cable

always great for downloading the channellist from the Technomate (Clarke Tech Studio) to the computer and for a quick softcam update from the computer to the Technomate using one of the patched loaders.
Be very cautious while uploading firmware using a patched loader (1.8.7) make sure you don't upload the wrong patch for the wrong model. Myself I would upload only firmware by USB stick (safety, not bricking the receiver)

I'm looking forward to your report if the 6800 HD super has the same feature as the 6900 HD super, while viewing with the 688p pressing the green button on the remote.

grtz

Satcat

15-10-2009, 08:01 PM

Thanks Giga for your information and all the other relevant threads you have posted that I have been reading.
I haven't got my receiver yet but when I do am I right in what to do.

1st Save channels on memory stick.
2nd Do factory reset
3rd Load official firmware 688 with memory sick
4th Factory reset again
5th Load patched firmware 688 with memory stick
6th load latest tmsoftcam with memory stick

Have I got it right? If not can you put me right please.
Regards Satcat
(I don't have a RS232 port on my laptop)

Giga

15-10-2009, 08:49 PM

should be ok. Meanwhile you could already have a go with Clarke Tech Studio. What is your dish setup? multi feed, motorised?
do***ent your setup on paper. Before you change an existing channellist upload it to usb stick, make backup on your computer. Keep a system in this names or whatever, when you accidental overwrite an actual channellist or erase it, you can fallback on the latest copy.

Watchout: Technomate download is writing to the Technomate!
saving a channellist to (fat32 formatted) USB stick: press █ in the data transfer menu in USB submenu.
when writting, don't do anything else with it! like switching off
Patch to Technomate is +- 5 writes (eachtime getting at 100%)
https://www.satpimps.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=36571&d=1250762636

Satcat

16-10-2009, 11:56 AM

Thanks again Giga.
Can you confirm that this is the right firmware for 6800 super+
(6900HDSuper_688p-14-08-2009.zip)
Satcat

It's OK I've found the correct one now - cheers

Satcat

16-10-2009, 12:46 PM

I thought I had but I haven't.
Could someonw point me in the right direction please
688 firmware for TM 6800 super+
Thanks
Satcat

Giga

16-10-2009, 01:58 PM

Sorry M8, was not there, it is now:
6800HDSuper 688p (https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?p=663382) <= click here
let me know if items are not there?

Satcat

16-10-2009, 02:18 PM

Excellent Giga. I had loaded 679 which worked ok, but now I will load 688.
I will report back later how things are doing, but seems ok up to now.
Thanks again/

Satcat

Satcat

16-10-2009, 07:15 PM

Well, it's taken me all day, receiver arrived at 9.30 this morning and it's taken me nearly all day, but I think I'm sorted.
Giga, I've got a motorized system 45E -58W.
I did have a play with channel editor yesterday, but what I did in the end was transfer my own channels list from my Mvision into it and loaded that into the Technomate.
Two problems I have with the Technomate so far are:
In the A/V outlet settings, although I have a wide screen TV, I tried to change it to 4:3 format and Pan & scan, but it doesn't seem to respond, any ideas? It's connected to TV via HDMI (worked OK that way on Mvision)
The other thing is I can't clear MCM Belgique Atlantic Bird 3 (5*W) the right keys are entered but not clearing.
Other than that I'm quite impressed with it so far, but no doubt I'll have more questions as I get more into it.
Any help on those two queries would be appreciated.
Thanks
Satcat

Giga

16-10-2009, 08:07 PM

In the A/V outlet settings, although I have a wide screen TV, I tried to change it to 4:3 format and Pan & scan, but it doesn't seem to respond, any ideas? It's connected to TV via HDMI (worked OK that way on Mvision)
on the button on remote bottom right Wide press until you get Pilar-box, it will show 4:3

The other thing is I can't clear MCM Belgique Atlantic Bird 3 (5*W) the right keys are entered but not clearing.
Other than that I'm quite impressed with it so far, but no doubt I'll have more questions as I get more into it.

Atlantic Bird 3 (5.0°W) MCM Belgique Belgium Music GlobeCast Viaccess 2.3/Viaccess 2.5, don't know don't have that location in my setup. Think Viaccess is not open on Technomate

Or are you using 8 2 8 0 (b i s s menu) (https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?p=643019) <= click here

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Satcat

17-10-2009, 09:49 AM

@Giga
What I'm trying to do is Pan-Scan the picture to fill the screen, but it won't do that for some reason, any ideas?
Does anyone with a TM manage to open MCM Belgique Atlantic Bird 3 (5*W)? I can with my Mvision.

dxman

17-10-2009, 11:50 AM

MCM BELGIQUE
It doesn't work for me either mate
but it use to
it could very well be the patch,as there is also some others that it doesn't open on 13 east example RAI
I'm using the the TM 6900 super. with 688p patch
But i can confirm It should work with an older patch,as I just test my TM 6800 super.
the problem is that the 688p i use for CS and work for me,but you loose some channels that old patch use to open

Regards dxman

Satcat

17-10-2009, 12:04 PM

MCM BELGIQUE

I'm using the the TM 6900 super. with 688p patch
But i can confirm It should work with an older patch,as I just test my TM 6800 super.

Regards dxman

Thanks Dxman, I'll try the 679 patch and see if the works.

Giga

17-10-2009, 01:22 PM

you want to stretch the 4:3 to 16:9?
select menu on the remote
Main Menu
System Settings (on the left)
A/V Output Setting (on the right)
Screen Format: 16 : 9
Display Format: Full Screen (16:9)/ Pillar-Box (4:3)
exit
confirm save for changed settings

you can always change from Full Screen (16:9)/ Pillar-Box (4:3) with [WIDE] button on the remote.

Further adjustments on picture display (black borders) could be achieved on the flat screen settings or with the zoom function of the flatscreen. This could differ from brand to brand.

pmb

17-10-2009, 03:08 PM

Satcat

17-10-2009, 03:17 PM

Thanks Dxman, I'll try the 679 patch and see if the works.

Yes it does work, thanks again.

Thanks Giga. I understand what you are saying, but what I want to do is zoom the 4;3 picture to fit my wide screen TV without making it look stretched. Like I can on my Mvision.
I know I can achieve this by TV settings, but that also enlarges menu boxes and hides part of them.
The fact that there is a setting on TM for doing this, that doesn't work, makes me wonder it it's a software glitch. Does it work on either on your boxes Giga? or anyone else with a TM.

Satcat.

Giga

17-10-2009, 03:39 PM

Thanks Giga. I understand what you are saying, but what I want to do is zoom the 4;3 picture to fit my wide screen TV without making it look stretched. Like I can on my Mvision.
I know I can achieve this by TV settings, but that also enlarges menu boxes and hides part of them.
The fact that there is a setting on TM for doing this, that doesn't work, makes me wonder it it's a software glitch. Does it work on either on your boxes Giga? or anyone else with a TM.

Satcat.
this works only like I described:
Screen Format: 16 : 9
Display Format: Full Screen
this will display 4:3 on the 16:9. works on 6900 HD Super and 6800 HD non Super these are the only settings. hitting the WIDE button toggles between 16:9 and 4:3 on a 16:9 screen. 4:3 on a 16:9 will always show fat people.

Giga

17-10-2009, 04:20 PM

output to 16:9 Screen
Pillar-Box (4:3)
https://www.satpimps.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=37995&stc=1&d=1255792705
Full Screen (16:9)
https://www.satpimps.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=37996&stc=1&d=1255792705

when pressing the WIDE button on the remote it should display on screen either Pillar-Box or Full Screen, if it is the case and the picture is not changing, perhaps your Flatscreen is on auto display and doing the full screen thing

Satcat

17-10-2009, 05:33 PM

Thanks again for you reply Giga, but I don't think you fully grasp what I am trying to do.
Yes, in 16:9 format the wide button toggles between Full-Screen and Pillar -Box.
In 4:3 format it should toggle between Pan-Scan and Letter-Box, but it dosen't. Why?
(Page 26 in users manual)

Satcat.

Giga

17-10-2009, 05:44 PM

OK, never used that one, will try this after F1 qualifying: recording! have no access to this menu, and come back to you with the result. After 19:15 BST

joe 1234567

17-10-2009, 07:01 PM

i have hade 8 different sat boxs and not one did panaramic and zoom .do it on tv

Giga

17-10-2009, 09:18 PM

Works here

select menu on the remote
Main Menu
System Settings (on the left)
A/V Output Setting (on the right)
Screen Format: 4: 3
Display Format: Letterbox (16:9)/ Pan-Scan (4:3)
exit
confirm save for changed settings

you can always change from Pan-scan (4:3)/ Letter Box (4:3) with [WIDE] button on the remote.
This works if you set screen format to 4:3
Letterbox
https://www.satpimps.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=38000&stc=1&d=1255810474
Pan-Scan
https://www.satpimps.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=38001&stc=1&d=1255810474

Satcat

17-10-2009, 11:23 PM

Thanks for reply Giga, thats exactly what I've done, but when I press wide nothing happens. What firmware are you using, and what sort of connection to TV are you using? I am on 679 and using HDMI lead.

Giga

18-10-2009, 08:15 AM

688p over HDMI to Samsung LE40B650 and S-VHS to a old 4:3 Tube TV, the switch happens on both displays
on both you get on top of the screen showing Pan Scan or Letter-Box while switching, on the TM-6900 HD Super.
Will test on the TM-6800 HD non super later today.

Satcat

18-10-2009, 09:13 AM

you get on top of the screen showing Pan Scan or Letter-Box while switching, on the TM-6900 HD Super.

Yes, I get that but the screen dosen't respont when pressing wide button. Its stuck in 16:9 streached mode.

Giga

18-10-2009, 11:31 AM

- check the flatscreen (settings)
or hook up a second TV/monitor via p10 manual scart (6/7), RCA cinch (16), S-VHS (13) and check what is happening on there.
If it shows the messages it should change the display.

Satcat

18-10-2009, 12:26 PM

Tried Scart connection and picture goes to 4:3 but wide button still wont respond. Also tried another HDMI lead. No luck!
I think I'll have to contact the people I bought if from and see what they say. (ie Replacement/Refund)
It may sound like a small thing and not worth pursuing, but to me it's a very important feature that should work but doesn't.
Thanks for you perseverance with me Giga.
Regards
Satcat.

Giga

18-10-2009, 01:50 PM

Satcat

18-10-2009, 03:11 PM

have you hooked up another TV set? As control against you flatscreen! If you see the messages on screen, Pan Scan, Letter-Box. In my opinion you should see the changes on the control 2nd TV. If you do the test just on the flatscreen, the flatscreen could prevent these changes showing for what ever reason in the flatscreen: upscaling, autoscreen, 16:9, ....

No, unfortunately I don't have another TV.
I understand what you are saying about my flat-screen possibly preventing these changes, but I don't have that problem with my Mvision. That works fine on all settings, connected to TV same way.
I am very happy with the Technomate in all other respects, but if it won't preform this simple task it's going back.
Regards
Satcat

Giga

19-10-2009, 07:49 AM

played some more with it, this is what seems to be happening on TM's
when your display is set to:
16:9 you can change the appearance of the output of SD 4:3 with wide button.
4:3 you can change the appearance of the output of SD 16:9 (palplus) with wide button.

Satcat

19-10-2009, 10:47 AM

Good morning Giga.
Yes, I understand what you are saying.
In 4:3 format you can only toggle to pan-scan when watching 16:9 format broadcasts. (intended for watching 16:9 broadcasts on 4:3 TV)
So to watch 4:3 broadcasts on widescreen I have either to watch them with black bands each side of the screen, or watch fat people, or change the format on my TV (which also enlarges the menu)
Not what I expected or wanted.
Will have to think about what to do.
Regards
Satcat.

Giga

19-10-2009, 10:53 AM

the 4:3, I watch in Pillar-Box on the HD in 16:9.

Satcat

19-10-2009, 01:19 PM

Thanks again for all you help and Patience with me Giga. As I said before the Technomate seems a good STB, it's just that little point with the Pan-Scan that I don't like. I think it's going back, and I'm going back to my Mvision.
I might open a new thread and see if anyone out there can recommend an HD STB that can do what I'm looking for.
Satcat.

Giga

19-10-2009, 02:06 PM

no hard feelings, glad to be of any assistance.

drahcirk

09-12-2009, 09:50 PM

with regard to the terrestrial bit of the receiver, i can only get about a half of the channels i should be getting ,any idea why please,.
sorry posted in wrong section, im referring to my 6900su+

Giga

10-12-2009, 09:31 AM

with regard to the terrestrial bit of the receiver, i can only get about a half of the channels i should be getting ,any idea why please,.
sorry posted in wrong section, im referring to my 6900su+

check the needed terrestrial frequencies for your area in the 6900HD Super
Main Menu: Installation: Terrestrial Scan
Use the ● Autoscan
all the ones used in your area should come up with
Level: █ █
Quality: █ █
if these are showing █ █: insufficient reception for that channel.
If the aerial is on the ground floor: try to raise it
If non DVB-T aerial is used, see if you can test an outside amplified DVB-T aerial
if reception from different transmitters: 2nd aerial with a combiner? polarization H/V
In some cases with the switchover from analogue to digital, transmitting power was reduced?

tony52

10-12-2009, 11:17 AM

hi satcat. I've just now come across this tread.
to stop to watch fat people my setting on my TM6900HDsuper+ are as follow:
In MENU AV Settings
Screen format 16:9
Display format full screen
On My TV Toshiba 37" LCD Regza, I've a button on the remote control, WIDESCREEN VIEWING to alter the display, consisting of: Exact scan, Wide, Super live2, Cinema2, 4:3, Superlive1, Cinema1, Subtitle, 14:9.
i use suprlive1 (this will enlarge a 4:3 image to fit the screen by stretching the image horizontally and vertically, holding the correct proportion at the at the centre of the image).
When watching a 1080i, i use Superlive1 or EXACT SCAN (This setting when watching a 1080i source, it will display the image as as transmitted without scaling or cropping the picture)
I hope this helps you

drahcirk

10-12-2009, 12:27 PM

thanks g, iv got 2 other terr ,boxes and they find all the other channels no pr
ob, is this another fault of this box, ie weak/poor tuner
also ,it is a high gain digi aerial and its 50ft in the air,.

Giga

10-12-2009, 03:39 PM

hard to tell from here if this is an error?
If you browse thru the frequencies is the used frequency there?
Do you see a signal increase when you select this frequency?
And the blocks do these stay red or do these change to yellow and blue?
And the signal you try to capture is it DVB-T or DVB-T2? Don't think DVB-T2 is supported on 6900HD Super
If DVB-T: has the aerial its own power supply or does the 6900HD Super have to suply the power?
How is it connected to the arial? First box or daisy chained? If not first box, connect it first?
Do your receive any channels? If not DVB-T connection is on the Cable in N° 1 connector page 10 of its manual. If you look at the front: top right or at the back: top left and not in the middle bottom (input from analog terrestrial antenna)