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flubar
26-11-2009, 10:11 PM
just flashed my 500s with pli image
scanned on 28.2 e seem to only get a few sky channels.
all i want to do is test my card out on this db500 and see the full sky package.
any ideas what im doing wrong?

Detlef
27-11-2009, 12:22 AM
Go into the manual transponder scan menu and see if all the Tx's are listed. Check them against KoS or Lyng5at.

Can't be more precise because I don't use pli.

xanadu
27-11-2009, 12:36 AM
Could be lots of reasons....

Dish not aligned.
LNB not aligned
LNB Faulty
Transponders missing from list.

Did you try a NIT search?

flubar
27-11-2009, 06:34 PM
update:
i used the channel list function that comes with the pli image and download full sky list.
put my card in and i can watch bravo 2 but no other sky chan.
sky channels are showing in the menu
are the frequencies wrong? maybe.
thanx for the posts above i will try A NIT search

flubar
27-11-2009, 07:30 PM
this is getting ridiculous. i reset to factory default.
ftp'ed satalite.xml to /var/etc this will override any other in a pli image.
made sure i looked at lyngsat. sky news is 12207 V
as a test a i wanted was sky news.
so i add to sat xml
<transponder frequency="12207000" symbol_rate="27500000" polarization="1" fec_inner="2"/>.

reboot and transponder scan.
guess what no sky news chan.
what am i doing wrong?
i did get some other 250 channels

flubar
27-11-2009, 07:46 PM
ok just did another scan with dload'ed chan list.
same ****. i can view bravo 2. all other sky chans --> no data for this service
someone must know what is up
im about to totally give up with this

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 08:28 PM
are you sure you have selected the right sat in set up menu?

it is possible you may be selecting astra on 19e some of the transponders match 28e

flubar
27-11-2009, 08:32 PM
thanx for your post. i use 28.2e eurobird 1 astra 2a/2b/2d

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 08:41 PM
have you tried the sat find function, change the transponders a few times to see if the signal strength stays up

flubar
27-11-2009, 09:51 PM
yeah trying that now.
getting 80 96.
when i scanned i thought it used all transponders. its on 24 transponders scanned
no services
5 minutes left
i need to get all this ready FOR CS

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 10:41 PM
when scan is finished, push ok, then green button, it should look like this:
astra 2a/2b/2c/2d new found (14)
astra 2a/2b/2c/2d provider
astra 2a/2b/2c/2d services (623)

select the one thay says 623

flubar
27-11-2009, 10:49 PM
yep i do that. i have something like 400 chans now but very few are sky

flubar
27-11-2009, 10:49 PM
no movies. no sky news. no sky 1 ect ect

flubar
27-11-2009, 10:50 PM
when scan is finished, push ok, then green button, it should look like this:
astra 2a/2b/2c/2d new found (14)
astra 2a/2b/2c/2d provider
astra 2a/2b/2c/2d services (623)

select the one thay says 623
i do not see 2c only 2a/2b/2d

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 10:52 PM
400 channels but very few are sky

what are the others?

flubar
27-11-2009, 10:57 PM
all bbc1 itv chan 4 ect.
zone horror. few virgin ones
sky vegas. sky sports 2. living. bravo. mtv disney. crime. just to mention a few

flubar
27-11-2009, 11:02 PM
this really is starting to take up a lot of my time. i had same problem with gemini. that is why i change to pli.
funny thing is if i use remote to dload chan list i get all sky chans but most if not nearly all dont work.
wtf is going on. took me 1 week to buy 500s and learn how to do everything and the one thing that will stop me CS is the chan list

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 11:02 PM
all bbc1 itv chan 4 ect.
zone horror. few virgin ones
sky vegas. sky sports 2. living. bravo. mtv disney. crime. just to mention a few

these are sky channels, some of them free to air.


is your box connected to the internet?

flubar
27-11-2009, 11:07 PM
no but it was when i dloaded the chan list. would it need to be online just to get channel list

flubar
27-11-2009, 11:09 PM
my box will be the server. so i do not need internet to test locally. ?
ie: input card and watch full package.
this is all at present im trying to acheive

noff
27-11-2009, 11:10 PM
This may have been suggested, but get another satellite receiver, even a sky receiver and check if the same channels dont work on there. If they dont you aint got a properly alligned dish, lnb...as post 2.

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 11:16 PM
try this,

menu, 6, software managment, download latest menu, downloads, channel settings, dreambox fun for all, astras/hotbird,

download that, it should replace all astra transponders and channels

flubar
27-11-2009, 11:17 PM
hmm.
ok this is a bit of a strange set up but here goes an explantion.
i have no dish. i have long cable from next door going through my window to my 500s. we then borrow a card from someone to test. when its all good we then intend to subscribe and CS with family/friends.
so everything we are doing is to test out CS.
earlier we grabed his old sky box put it in my house when we fired it up. says no satalite detected.
could this suggest your suggestion is correct?
if so how come i still get like 400 chans when i use the bd. so weird

flubar
27-11-2009, 11:18 PM
theblueirish[/B]
i have done that i do get full sky list. something like 1700 chans but still same problem.
bravo 2 works all other sky chans no data service available

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 11:20 PM
you dont have a dish at all? or are you connected to next doors dish?

flubar
27-11-2009, 11:20 PM
ya

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 11:21 PM
theblueirish[/B]
i have done that i do get full sky list. something like 1700 chans but still same problem.
bravo 2 works all other sky chans no data service available


bravo 2 is free to air,

do you get all the free to air channels?

noff
27-11-2009, 11:21 PM
Ok if you are running a long cable then you may be losing signal strength on some transponders.

Try using an orthodox way first with a shorter cable run and also try out another box.

Only after this can you say there is a problem with the dreambox as most of the time when a few channels are missing its never the boxs' fault.

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 11:23 PM
i am beginning to think there isnt a signal problem, rather cam isnt set up properly to read the card

noff
27-11-2009, 11:26 PM
i am beginning to think there isnt a signal problem, rather cam isnt set up properly to read the card

Which is why he has got to try his original sky box first in order to establish he can actually receive these channels.

Then he has got to say if it is only fta channels he can see or some encrypted ones.

Also a quick run down on what cam he is using would be nice.

flubar
27-11-2009, 11:29 PM
theblueirish not sure but i think not cos no sky news or maybe i am getting all fta.
if so, its still the full sky package that i want. the card has full package so i need chan list to test. then i set up CS.

noff it could be to long. idk. its verly long. im sure i could take of at least 15 feet maybe bit less off the length. i havnt got another box at mo to test on. once i see the card working with full list. then i buy some more dreams and start with the CS testing. at present im stuck on this chan list. i am doing all this in stages and only ever herd of CS like 2 weeks ago. as you know N3 is out soon. so just trying to stay ahead of the game. cable scene is dying

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 11:31 PM
the easiest way would be to take the dm500 to where the sky box was working,
you still need to have a cam running to read the card, i would suggest cccam 2.13

flubar
27-11-2009, 11:31 PM
ccam 2.1.1
i tried newcam but couldnt even get bravo 2 to work but does on ccam 2.1.1.
i can upgrade that i think to ccam 2.1.3 not sure. i think i did have it on that before i did a factory reset

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 11:34 PM
if its a new white card it will need cccam 2.13 (afaik)

noff
27-11-2009, 11:34 PM
If you have the card why do you not have the box?

Mate you are trying to fly b4 you can crawl.

You have to try another receiver, ideally the original sky box to see if you can actually see those channels. It could just be then lnb is fooked.

If the channels are viewable on sky box.....

then check you have the correct cam installed on your dreambox.


If it still doesnt work do the following....


which channel list are you using? Grab one from the dreambox section of this board, and then upload it using dreambox edit.

If that still dont work get a pro in.

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 11:38 PM
If that still dont work get a pro in.



quitter ;)

flubar
27-11-2009, 11:39 PM
ok its a white card and maybe i did use 2.13 and bravo 2 did work.

noff link me to chan list in downloads if that does not work then least i know its something else rather than configuration of the db .

4 years on linux gentoo i want to do this myself ;P.

noff
27-11-2009, 11:45 PM
dreambox swttings are in dreambox section mate. search and u shall find

flubar
27-11-2009, 11:49 PM
ok next steps are. shorten cable. if still no good. then we borrow a sky box and test with his sat.

going to bed hope we can take off from where we have left it. sometime 2morrow.
peace and thanx for all your help

flubar
27-11-2009, 11:51 PM
b4 i go to bed i would like this chan list. cant find dream box section or dload sec.
yes i have searched :D

theblueirish
27-11-2009, 11:56 PM
h**p://www.satpimps.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=98

flubar
27-11-2009, 11:59 PM
thanx bro.
bookmarked will check it out 2morrow

echelon
28-11-2009, 12:01 AM
b4 i go to bed i would like this chan list. cant find dream box section or dload sec.
yes i have searched :D



moved to the correct forum , dreambox 500

now check the dreambox section you cannot find in here

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=98

flubar
28-11-2009, 06:00 PM
ok last update. if no joy gonna give up.
borrowed someones sky box brought it here, couldnt even detect the sat dish.
back to the db 500s
i reset to factory. then used dream box edit. received files from 500s. there were errors in the bouquets. saved to .wine dir. removed them then added sky uk boquets. sent these files to the dream. received them again to see if any errors.
there was none.
reloaded setting on dream. i then see all the chans. if i go to providers i see bsky. if i view say bbc1 and view info. SNR is like 79 AGC is 93.
if i view brav0 2. i get epg and SNR is 78 AGC is 92. if i view sky news. no epg
SNR below 70 its 63 AGC bout 89.

other than that i got no idea what to do next.
any advice would be appreciated