New DM8000 killer on the market

[Keano]

m8 not had chance to try yet, soon as I do I will let you know.

[Likvid]

How about the tuner? is it sensitive?

[OldSkul]

Tuners must be good because I have just tested 7.0w 11996H and it comes in with perfect picture and with my other receivers its right on the border line.

apperantly tuners are good

[selobaba]

Hi guys selling brand new azbox hd premium( only a month old ) for £200, pm me anyone interested.



selo :ack2:

[selobaba]

so same dm 8xx PLI ENGIMA 2 for Vu+duo also I guess ??

yes it is.



selo :respect-051:

[A]

good so then I dont need to scratch my head once it comes
Have u installed Barry allen I hear it works 5.033 version with original 19.01. image

[selobaba]

For me the colours are better with VTI image, but PLI has more choices in plugins departement, also in VTI the receiver dont always display corresponding message in vfd.


selo ;)

[selobaba]

good so then I dont need to scratch my head once it comes
Have u installed Barry allen I hear it works 5.033 version with original 19.01. image
Yes I do have barry allen, this is how to, of corse with VTI image only @: the mo..
copy the ipk to tmp,

ipkg install /tmp/*.ipk

enigma2-plugin-extensions-barryallen_5.0.26_mipsel.ipk

selo :respect-051:

[selobaba]

Thanks to gutemine from vu+duo support germany,

FÜR BA5 BRAUCHT MAN WIRKLICH EIN IMAGE MIT ALLEN USB TREIBERN IM KERNEL IM FLASH UND FÜR WW5 AUCHT MIT FAT TREIBERN, ODER MAN MUSS DAS BETA VON BART ALLEN UM HILFE BITTEN !!!

Bart is nur ein simples ipk um die probleme mit Images die (noch) nicht alle nötigen USB Treiber im Kernel haben zu umgehen, es ist kein Plugin oder ein Multiboot Werkzeug, sondern man bittet einfach Bart um Hilfe indem man Ihn in solchen Images vor der eigentlichen BA installation installiert.

FOR BA 5 YOU REALLY NEED AN IMAGE WITH ALL USB DRIVERS IN KERNEL IN FLASH AND FOR WW5 ALSO WITH THE FAT DRIVERS, OR YOU HAVE TO ASK THE BART ALLEN BETA FOR HELP !!!

Bart is just a simple ipk to help overcome problems with images who don't (yet) have USB drivers in Kernel. It is not a Plugin or a Multiboot Tool, you simply ask Bart for help in such images by installing him before BA.

DIREKTES AUSPACKEN VON IMAGES IN DEN FLASH MIT BA IST IMMER NOCH NUR IM BETA - BITTE TESTEN !

DIRECT EXTRACTING IMAGES TO FLASH WITH BA IS STILL ONLY IN BETA - PLEASE TEST!

WENN IHR PROBLEME MIT DEM BOOTMANAGER HABT DASS ER NICHT AUF DIE FERNBEDIENUNG REAGIERT, DANN PROBIERT DOCH BITTE ERST DIE RC DEVICE UMSCHALTUNG UND NICHT (!) DIE RC EBENEN IN DEN BARRY ALLEN EINSTELLUNGEN AUS !!!

IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE BOOTMANAGER THAT IT DOESN'T REACT TO THE REMOTE CONTROL, THEN PLEASE TRY OUT FIRST THE RC DEVICE SETTINGS AND NOT (!) THE RC LEVELS IN THE BARRY ALLEN SETUP ****** !!!

================================= ===================
Barry Allen for Dreambox 7025, 800, 8000
================================= ===================
Version 5.0.0 by gutemine from 02.10.2009
================================= ===================
Release infos
================================= ===================
0.1.0 first official Version
0.1.1 add LCD support, copy, rename and erase
0.2.0 add backup and more tools options
0.2.1 bugfixes
0.2.2 quod erat demonstrandum
0.3.0 WebIF and ******s
0.3.1 nl, 12 images, bugfixes
0.3.2 tar.bz2 images, instant extract
0.4.0 OE 1.5 support, Flashing and user scripts WebIF
0.4.1 keep squashfs and Barry Allen gets fat
0.4.2 time for a new version and new language fr
0.4.3 feeding the GNU
0.4.4 time for a new version
4.4.6 preliminary dm800 support
4.5.0 DM 800 support
4.6.1 DM 8000 support
4.8.0 time for a new version
4.9.0 new kernel
5.0.0 new partitions
================================= ===================
Thanks to noggie for his nfi file tools !
Thanks to DarkVolli for the enigma1 plugin !
================================= ===================

1) Prerequisites

During the installation there has to be CF
card in the Dreambox (attention: insert or remove
into Dreambox 7025 cardreader only when Dreambox
is turned off), or an USB stick which is successfully
detected (in case of problems try an USB Hub).

If Barry Allen on USB is used then put
the CVS Image from OoZooN in Flash, because this image
has the USB drivers permanently built into the kernel.

If neither CF card not USB Stick are attached then
installation takes place on the Harddisk. Because
the images then also run from there it will run
permanently and it could be necessary that you disable
Harddisk Standby in the images to allow running Barry
Allen stable from Harddisk.


2) Installation

First boot from Flash and then copy the file
enigma2-plugin-extensions-barryallen*.ipk
to /tmp with ftp (TCP/IP must be working already).

If you have an image in Flash that offers a Blue
Pannel Manual Addon Install, then you can use this
functionality to install the ipk file.

If not, then install Barry Allen by entering the
following commands in a Telnet session:

cd /
ipkg install /tmp/enigma2-plugin-extensions-barryallen*.ipk

Then restart enigma2 and the Barry Allen Plugin
shoudl show up under Games / Plugins.

In the Images installed by Barry Allen you don't have
to install the Barry Allen Plugin anymore.
The Barry Allen Plugin integrates himself into then
automatically during the image extract.

And you can remove Barry Allen if you are booted
from Flash:

ipkg remove enigma2-plugin-extensions-barryallen

3) Usage

There is now the enigma2 Plugin of Barry Allen included
under Games / Plugins of the enigma2 menu,
which offers the full functionality of Barry Allen.

For extracting of nfi images in Barry Allen copy the
image files to /MB_Images (normally a link to
/media/hdd/MB_Images created during Barry Allen
installation)

If there are Problems with image extraction or other tasks
with the enigma2 plugin try doing it in telnet:

cd /media/ba
ba.sh extract nameoftheimage

On the next reboot this new Image should be available
in the bootmanager for choosing to boot it and then it
can be customized and used as usual.

The Bootmanager now should remember the last booted
image and hence recordings from Deepstandby should work
now.

================================= ===================
Have Fun using Barry Allen on the Dreambox !!!!
================================= ===================



selo:respect-051:

[A]

Yes I do have barry allen, this is how to, of corse with VTI image only @: the mo..
copy the ipk to tmp,

ipkg install /tmp/*.ipk

enigma2-plugin-extensions-barryallen_5.0.26_mipsel.ipk

selo :respect-051:
what image do u have on Flash ?
VTI from 19.0.2010 ??

[selobaba]

what image do u have on Flash ?
VTI from 19.0.2010 ??
thats correct, the original image..

selo :respect-051:

[Keano]

Might be of interest to a few of you UK guys have a look below, card did not take straight away had to wait about 20seconds before it kick in.

card reader /dev/sci0
handled 6(6) ecms and 0(0) emms
Nds card *******

Entitlement info
003 20-02-2010
00b 20-02-2010
0010 20-02-2010
001d 20-02-2010
30e3 20-02-2010
30e4 20-02-2010
30e5 20-02-2010
b73b 20-02-2010
b765 20-02-2010
b766 20-02-2010
b772 20-02-2010
b773 20-02-2010
b846 05-02-2010
b860 05-02-2010
b8d2 05-02-2010
b991 14-02-2010


This is new 0963 card.

[A]

this is good my Viasat NDS card can take a min
thanks for the info selo :respect-055:
and in VU card reader /dev/sci0 IS THE Upper slot correct ?

[OldSkul]

i would be careful with this new nds3 card in internal cardreader... Is internal cardreader using 5v or 3.3v?

[pipino]

i would be careful with this new nds3 card in internal cardreader... Is internal cardreader using 5v or 3.3v?

i think that mostly with other new nds cards then UK ,like the new italian one..remember in UK they still use nearly 15years old boxes

[pipino]

i´d love to know the video quality differences between DM8K and this new beast..keano you dont have a DM8k do you? :D

[Keano]

@A yes m8 card in the top slot.

@OldSkul my 0963 card has been in a db500 and a external reader ( 5.0v ) for well over 5 months now without a problem and no signs of burn marks.
I mentioned many months ago that the two guys who had their cards burnt I reckon got them burnt because of the constant init fail.

@pipino m8 I have owned many receivers and still have too many here but sorry to say the DB8000 is one I never used. I had to draw the line some where I love this hobby but was not spending nearly a £1000 just to watch Saturday afternoon footy. If the DB8000 was around the £500 then I might have been inetrested but now I have the VU+ then I don't give a monkeys about the DB8000.
Dream would had been better selling 500,000 units at £500 then selling only a handful at £900.

The only difference is the DB8000 can handle 4 tuners and has a DVD player.

Forgot to say I have been using a cuberevo for the last year with E2 and the picture quality is sh*t hot on it, I can honestly say I can't see much difference between the two.

[selobaba]

i´d love to know the video quality differences between DM8K and the this new beast..keano you dont have a DM8k do you? :D

According to my friend in germany the video quality is as good or if not tad better than 8k...


selo :respect-051:

[A]

so in short from these initial reviews the title of the thread seems justified to a big extent
" New DM8000 killer on the market "

[Lord^DS]

I did get some news from the shop I did mention before.
They are prepared to set up a shortage in group orders.
For an order more then 5 receivers price should go down to € 399 :respect-059:

Don't know this is something that can be done, people need to live close to eachother :(

[jimrare]

According to my friend in germany the video quality is as good or if not tad better than 8k...


selo :respect-051:They are using similar video decoders from the same manufacturer, i wouldn't expect any big differences, if any at all.

[pace508]

i wonder if this receiver could put a dent in dreambox 8000 sales, could be a good thing

[A]

personally I dont think so DMM is DMM

[Likvid]

Clones flooding the market and now this Vu+ duo, it will certainly hurt DM sales in the long run.

[catseye]

Can someone confirm if the PLi Team previously worked exclusively on images for DMM boxes

If so i wonder how that will affect their relationship with them in future

Also how will DMM react to their beloved CCC*M working on a competitors box

[CROSSBONES]

Thanks for the heads up Keano:respect-055:

If Nablio start making images for the VU+ then its game set and match!:respect-040:

[Likvid]

Can someone confirm if the PLi Team previously worked exclusively on images for DMM boxes

If so i wonder how that will affect their relationship with them in future

Also how will DMM react to their beloved CCC*M working on a competitors box

DMM will probably have long discussions with CCcam Team how they are going to prohibit CCcam from working in Vu+ Duo.

[OldSkul]

ok guys, i got my vu+duo. it seems impressive box. I tested it abit with original image from october (LOL) and it works great :P
I will install PLi image now. Also i will make some videos :D:d

Ok, 1. problem is that dvb subtitles dont work on TotalTV channels.
2. problem. I dont know how to setup recording to my NAS! :/

[bobonthejob]

Couldnt wait all.....just purchased a VU+ duo...Im a newbie to this so this is going to be fun...

Im even going one step futher and going to hang my own dish.. God help me.. lol

Im sure i will have pleanty of questions.

[A]

Couldnt wait all.....just purchased a VU+ duo...Im a newbie to this so this is going to be fun...

Im even going one step futher and going to hang my own dish.. God help me.. lol

Im sure i will have pleanty of questions.
lol:D

[Lord^DS]

no sales promotion of any shop
only this one

http://www.goldwafers.co.uk

[OldSkul]

another problem guys. This one is quite critical. I have 42x10 panny and when i power on my box when it is standby, my TV doesnt detect box right away. I have to go to HDMI 1 for example and then back to HDMI 3 and then box is detected.
WTF?!
I never had such behaviour with HDMI devices. Tomorrow i will replace HDMI cable that i got with box with something else.

[Lord^DS]

no sales promotion of any shop
only this one

http://www.goldwafers.co.uk

No problem at all, sorry, but this shop doesn't sell this receiver at all ...

[A]

Let it not.
http://www.goldwafers.co.uk SPONSORS THIS FORUM NOT ANY OTHER SHOP so in short we dont bite the hand that feeds us.
Please do see the rules here.

[Lord^DS]

I can follow you on this , no problem at all.

[gbsatti]

another problem guys. This one is quite critical. I have 42x10 panny and when i power on my box when it is standby, my TV doesnt detect box right away. I have to go to HDMI 1 for example and then back to HDMI 3 and then box is detected.
WTF?!
I never had such behaviour with HDMI devices. Tomorrow i will replace HDMI cable that i got with box with something else.

same problem here

But i think it's not a real problem ;), maybe a fix will come in few days ?

[Keano]

Sorry to tell you guys but auto switching works for me.

I have just this minute turned my TV on and as always it starts with TV mode and the message "Can't find service" this is because I have no aerial plugged in.
Then I pressed standby on the white VU+ remote to turn box on and TV switched over to HDMI 1 on its own.

Maybe try HDMI 1 and not HDMI 3.

My telly is a Panny.

[dog-man]

I am very tempted to get one of these so please guys, keep the reports coming in.




dog-man

[OldSkul]

i now fitted thicker and shorter cable and i think its ok.

[dog-man]

You mean HDMI cable?




dog-man

[A]

yes he means that

[paul01609]

only thing i dont like about it is the casing dont take it the wrong way im not slating it but i think it could look better and i wish it all the look,fingers crossed it might drive down the price of the 8000 and other boxes but that wont do me any good as i have them.the box its self does sound like a good one with some big support out there

[selobaba]

another problem guys. This one is quite critical. I have 42x10 panny and when i power on my box when it is standby, my TV doesnt detect box right away. I have to go to HDMI 1 for example and then back to HDMI 3 and then box is detected.
WTF?!
I never had such behaviour with HDMI devices. Tomorrow i will replace HDMI cable that i got with box with something else.
Thats to do with the tv set my friend , just switch tv on /off will do the trick.



selo :respect-051:

[selobaba]

I have installed ---9--- different dm8000 images in (barry allen), and VTI image in the flash, this are,,
gemini---edg---nemesis---newenigma2---ooZooN---pli---Boxman---icvs---LT6
Altogether 10 images...and they all work perfectly, thats impressive :cup-006::cup-006:

[selobaba]

I have installed ---8--- different dm8000 images in (barry allen), and VTI image in the flash, this are,,
gemini---edg-nemesis---newenigma2---ooZooN---pli---Boxman---icvs---LT6
Altogether 9 images...and they all work perfectly, thats impressive :cup-006::cup-006:


selo :respect-051:

[selobaba]

OOPS ignore #294


selo :D

[A]

you lost me m8 shall we ignore your 9 images post ? :smash:

[ssjenkins]

I think his box has just exploded after loading image #10 :)

Sammy

[A]

lol

[Keano]

Just had a look on the Nabilo site and they have recently opened a sub forum for the VU+ and Nabilo himself has just got this receiver and says he is very impressed with it which tells me it might only be a matter of time before we see a Nabilo VU+ image, that should keep a lot of people happy including Crossbones :respect-037:.

I have to agree now with the first poster and he was right when he put the title New DM8000 killer on the market. Right across Europe on the forums people are raving about this receiver.

[OldSkul]

anyone using newcs + pli image?
I have troubles. I put viacess card in internal reader (with chip facing up) but mbox doesnt detect card in it.
I just used newcs.xml that i used in dm800. In dm800 card worked without a problem. I was using same newcs as in vu+

[Keano]

m8 can you telnet to box and start newcs and see what happens.

I know with CCcam it took about 20 seconds for uk card to be seen.

[pascha99]

Doesn t know the Vu+ Reader ,but most of the internal readers you
have to put the card, with chip facing down,in it.

[Keano]

yes pascha is right you have the card the wrong way round:number-one-043:

[A]

Does gemini 8000 image work on USB ?

[Keano]

m8 selobaba says in one of his post he has tested gemini db8000 image.

I have never used barry allen, might have a to look in to it.

[OldSkul]

another problem

Mbox stops working after some time. Via Mbox control centre i can see that mbox is running (also all cards) BUT channels are not opening on vu+ duo
Mbox worked ok with dm500 LOL

Newcs still not working.

Damn

[A]

ok m8 selobaba seemed drunk when he posted so :D
My baby arrives Monday :respect-040:

[enrico001u]

If nabilo started to create images for VU+ then that would definatly seal the deal for me also.

In my opinion Nabilo create the best user friendly images and according to early reviews this seems to be the best twin tuner pvr out there.

Must say thanks to all who have already took the risk and bought this box and kept the rest of us informed!

[OldSkul]

guys, newcs doesnt work here. Damnn
I am getting this error all the time http://www.shrani.si/t/23/YT/kib6Yue/image2.jpg (http://www.shrani.si/?23/YT/kib6Yue/image2.jpg)

I put smartcard (viaccess 3.0) with chip down... Card is working fine in Octagon sf908.


<?xml version="1.0"?>
<newCSconfig>
<readers name="Dreambox SCI">
<device>
<name>SCI Lower Slot</name>
<type>sci</type>
<mhz>357</mhz>
<node>/dev/sci0</node>
<parity>odd</parity>
<reset>normal</reset>
<export>Yes</export>
<enabled>Yes</enabled>
<blocksa>No</blocksa>
<blockua>No</blockua>
<blockga>No</blockga>
<blockC0>Yes</blockC0>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>20000</newcamd_port>
<PTShandshake>No</PTShandshake>
<autosid>Yes</autosid>
<priority>round</priority>
</device>
<device>
<name>SCI Upper Slot</name>
<type>sci</type>
<mhz>357</mhz>
<node>/dev/sci1</node>
<parity>odd</parity>
<reset>normal</reset>
<export>Yes</export>
<enabled>Yes</enabled>
<blocksa>No</blocksa>
<blockua>No</blockua>
<blockga>No</blockga>
<blockC0>Yes</blockC0>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<newcamd_port>20000</newcamd_port>
<PTShandshake>No</PTShandshake>
<autosid>Yes</autosid>
<priority>round</priority>
</device>
</readers>
<radegastserver>
<enabled>Yes</enabled>
<port>10001</port>
<allow>
<hostname>localhost</hostname>
</allow>
</radegastserver>
<cache>
<emm>20</emm>
<ecm>-1</ecm>
</cache>
<httpd>
<server>
<port>8080</port>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
</server>
<user>
<name>newcs</name>
<password>newcs</password>
<accesslevel>admin</accesslevel>
</user>
</httpd>
<debug>
<password>NewCSpwd</password>
<mode>simple</mode>
<level>internal</level>
<type>all</type>
<output>console,tcp</output>
<tcp_port>1001</tcp_port>
<tcp_options>normal,init</tcp_options>
</debug>
<newcamdserver>
<enabled>Yes</enabled>
<name>local</name>
<deskey>01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14</deskey>
<user>
<name>dummy</name>
<password>dummy</password>
<au>on</au>
<sidoverride>off</sidoverride>
<spider>No</spider>
<cardlevel>1</cardlevel>
</user>
</newcamdserver>
<chameleon2>
<server>
<port>1234</port>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
<realm>myShares</realm>
</server>
<peer>
<hostname>remote</hostname>
<port>1234</port>
<name>myname</name>
<password>mypassword</password>
<realm>myShares</realm>
</peer>
<user>
<name>myname</name>
<password>mypassword</password>
<realm>myShares</realm>
</user>
</chameleon2>
</newCSconfig>

[A]

is card working in newcs in octagon ??

[OldSkul]

i was using this card in dm800 and dm500 too. Newcs 1.67

[dubious]

guys, newcs doesnt work here. Damnn
I am getting this error all the time

I put smartcard (viaccess 3.0) with chip down... Card is working fine in Octagon sf908.

If you look at your newcs startup log you will see

Can't create server : Address already in use

This means some other program has already taken control of your readers, this could be either be a previous startup of newcs, or some other cam.

Do a ps command in telnet and see what it is already running.

[A]

yes but this has 2 card readers they are differently named in DM and VU+
WERE U USING CCAM + NEWCS ??

[OldSkul]

only mbox is running, iam killing newcs with killall -9 newcs command.

[A]

what image you got ??

[OldSkul]

pli

[A]

I use newcs and ccam I dont know mbox but if one card slot is used only by newcs ur config has 2 slots sci1 is the lower slot and sci0 is the upper slot on Vu+

[dubious]

I see in your config that you have both slots enabled but they both have the same newcamd port!!

They must have different port numbers 2000 and 2001 for example.

I'm pretty sure this is your problem.

[OldSkul]

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<newCSconfig>
<readers name="Dreambox SCI">
<device>
<name>SCI DOWN</name>
<type>sci</type>
<node>/dev/sci1</node>
<export>yes</export>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
<blocksa>no</blocksa>
<blockua>no</blockua>
<blockga>No</blockga>
<newcamd_port>20000</newcamd_port>
<autosid>no</autosid>
<carddetect>yes</carddetect>
<priority>hard</priority>
<PTShandshake>no</PTShandshake>
<mhz>357</mhz>
<boxkey></boxkey>
<rsa></rsa>
</device>
</readers>
<xmlserver>
<enabled>0</enabled>
</xmlserver>
<radegastserver>
<enabled>0</enabled>
</radegastserver>
<cache>
<emm>20</emm>
<ecm>-1</ecm>
</cache>
<debug>
<darint39>sintoi51</darint39>
<level>internal</level>
<type>all</type>
<output>console, tcp</output>
<logfile>/tmp/newcs.txt</logfile>
<console_options></console_options>
<file_options></file_options>
<udp_host>172.16.1.1</udp_host>
<udp_port>9000</udp_port>
<udp_options></udp_options>
<tcp_port>1001</tcp_port>
<tcp_options></tcp_options>
</debug>
<newcamdserver>
<enabled>yes</enabled>
<name>local</name>
<deskey>01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14</deskey>
<user>
<name>dummy</name>
<password>dummy</password>
<hostname>127.0.0.1</hostname>
<au>on</au>
<port>12000</port>
</user>
</newcamd_server>
</newCSconfig>

Iam using this config now (its taken from my dm800). dOESNT work

[A]

yes its his newcs config. for this box, nothing wrong with the box image I think

[A]

also have u enabled softcam newcs from software management in PLI ?

[OldSkul]

i now tried again in dm500. Card was detected instantly. . There is problem with my cardreaders apperantly.

[A]

PUT UR PROBLEM IN THE PLI forum they will know more

[dubious]

Iam using this config now (its taken from my dm800). dOESNT work

It's no good just stating "doesn't work" if you want help

You need to C&P your newcs startup log(s) here !

[A]

thats correct, the only thing I know is that the card readers are abou 10 sec. slower than DM 800 but others report that newcs works

[OldSkul]

it should work. Config from dm500 should work.
I think this error is main problem: SCI RETURNED 0 on IOCTL ....
I will finish for today. I put card back in dm500.

[foggy]

Just ordered mine

[satattack]

where ?seems to be out off stock in ewery placy that had it br:sat

[Keano]

I have just tried newcs myself. Installed via FTP and started via Telnet.

It does not work at the moment.

It appears that the readers do not start fast enough.

[ 17:58:48 ] [ Loader ] Reader type 5 on node /dev/sci0
[ 17:58:48 ] [ Sci ] Closing device /dev/sci0 [Handle=-1]
[ 17:58:48 ] [ Sci ] Opening device /dev/sci0
SCI returned 0 on IOCTL IOCTL_SET_PARAMETERS
[ 17:58:48 ] [ Sci ] resetting card now
[ 17:58:48 ] [ Sci ] Reset
[ 17:58:49 ] [ Sci ] Card reset

It stays like for ages. Looks like we will have to wait for a fix. Got to remember the box is not a week old yet.

[A]

you must inform them and the vu+ forum they will fix it if its a problem its just a driver issue I guess but if ccam works fine then why not newcs ?

[OldSkul]

so solution here is that we use cccam as a reader or?
I will probably switch to cccam. Mbox is dead anyway.

keano, you are using PLi?

Also some other people have problems with HDMI-handshake. Problem is reported and will be fixed.

[foggy]

where ?seems to be out off stock in ewery placy that had it br:sat


I have to pre-order they should be in the first week of feb


cheers

[dog-man]

Where is the VU+ forum?




dog-man

[foggy]

Is there a guide for adding more than one image to the box?

[selobaba]

I think his box has just exploded after loading image #10 :)

Sammy
Lol box is perfect, barry allen plugin is now in the plugin section of VTI, just update the software....



selo :respect-051:

[selobaba]

m8 selobaba says in one of his post he has tested gemini db8000 image.

I have never used barry allen, might have a to look in to it.

Gemini 8000 works perfect in the usb....


selo :respect-051:

[OldSkul]

so VTI image first, then install barry allen plugin?
Will wait for new VTI release and then will try this.
PLi isnt that good.

[A]

VTI image has just been released 3 days back

[A]

Where is the VU+ forum?




dog-man
h-t-t-p://www.vuplus.info/wbb2/index.php

[selobaba]

so VTI image first, then install barry allen plugin?
Will wait for new VTI release and then will try this.
PLi isnt that good.
Mate PLI images are always good, the only problem is the image is unstable, at the m... VTI on the other hand is very stable image and written for this box only... or you can use dm8000 images in barry allen plugin.



selo :respect-051:

[A]

is addon for B.Allen from blue button like gemini for VTI image ?

[selobaba]

is addon for B.Allen from blue button like gemini for VTI image ?
It is, update the VTI software than in plugins install barry allen, then It will be available with blue-button..


selo :respect-010:

[A]

if I install 2.4 which is latest in flash is there still a software update after that ?

[Keano]

selobaba mate would you explain how you set your box up with barry allen please ?
Then how do you install the db8000 images on to the USB.

I am not 100% what to do, I thought it went it flash.

Many thanks.


@ hda5, kink or A can we please have a sub forum for this receiver asap this thread is going to get very long at this rate, thanks.

[selobaba]

if I install 2.4 which is latest in flash is there still a software update after that ?

2.4 is the original mbox image of vuduo, you need to install VTI Vu+ Team Image - V0.2-15.01.2010, than update.

selo :respect-048:

[A]

ok I see selo
yes Keano m8 working on the section

[selobaba]

selobaba mate would you explain how you set your box up with barry allen please ?
Then how do you install the db8000 images on to the USB.

I am not 100% what to do, I thought it went it flash.

Many thanks.


@ hda5, kink or A can we please have a sub forum for this receiver asap this thread is going to get very long at this rate, thanks.

DM8k images in flash are not supported yet, but arry allen usb is, this is how to,
before downloading barry allen plugin make sure usb stick (at list 1 gb and formatted to fat32 file system on the pc) is connected to the reciever, than download barry allen plugin, and it will install itself to the usb driver, after auto restart, ftp the box... For extracting of nfi images in Barry Allen copy the
image files to /MB_Images (normally a link to
/media/hdd/MB_Images created during Barry Allen
installation)... than via blue-button/barry allen/****** for images at /MB_images/extract nfi image from nfi /MB_images--than you will see the list of images in MB folder, choose an image ( but make sure image name is reduced ) eg:gemini2-460-dm8000-200912241345, but raher-- gemini2, than install after 3 minutes image is in barry allen folder..

selo :sifone:

[A]

ok thats the way for DM 800 also wa just wondering what flash supports BA
VTI Vu+ Team Image - V0.2-15.01.2010 Flash

[selobaba]

ok thats the way for DM 800 also wa just wondering what flash supports BA
VTI Vu+ Team Image - V0.2-15.01.2010 Flash
Sorry- A- mate, didnt get the question :eek:

[A]

VTI Vu+ Team Image - V0.2-15.01.2010 Flash
This is what I flash with and then from blue button on remote install barry allen right ?

[passete]

Well, it will be a Dm 8000 killer, When you will be able to install a real Dm 8000 Image on the Flash.
Plus all the rest, i mean that all the stuff of the "KING" can do.

Lol

[selobaba]

VTI Vu+ Team Image - V0.2-15.01.2010 Flash
This is what I flash with and then from blue button on remote install barry allen right ?

OK box comes with factory mbox e2 image, you need to install--- Vu+ Team Image - V0.2-15.01.2010, than update the software, (cos in this vti there is no barry allen) after software update, barry allen will be in the plugins menu, after installing the plugin of barry allen than it will be available via blue button, yeah than install.....

selo :respect-051:

[A]

God bless you passete :lurk5:

[A]

OK box comes with factory mbox e2 image, you need to install--- Vu+ Team Image - V0.2-15.01.2010, than update the software, (cos in this vti there is no barry allen) after software update, barry allen will be in the plugins menu, after installing the plugin of barry allen than it will be available via blue button, yeah than install.....

selo :respect-051:
ok I go it, I get it on Monday then we see.
Software update is from their server via remote ?

[selobaba]

ok I go it, I get it on Monday then we see.
Software update is from their server via remote ?
Yes from VTI server, and yesterday vuduo supprt updated their server ( obviously of the huge interest) so there is even more plugins now many many more.

selo :respect-059:

[A]

software update is from the menu like gemini ?

[selobaba]

software update is from the menu like gemini ?

yes very exact :number-one-043:

[A]

excellent

[selobaba]

btw tested almost every image in barry allen, the best are by far--newenigma2--gemini2--oozoon, and of course VTI in flash.


selo:respect-051:

[Keano]

selobaba have you got the usb folders for update of Vu+ team image ?

I have been on their site but it is all German.

I have found the image but its a nfi image and I really need the files for the usb.

[A]

its there in the database m8 nfi and usb
h-t-t-p://www.vuplus.info/wbb2/database.php

VTI Vu+ Team Image - V0.2-15.01.2010 USB
(Uploader: cocksy)
am: 22.01.2010 11:26


...detailed description

VTI Vu+ Team Image - V0.2-15.01.2010 USB


Enigma vom 04.09...

[CROSSBONES]

I have been on their site but it is all German.

Use Google mate, translates the whole url for you ;)

-http://www.google.co.uk/language_tools?hl=en

[jimrare]

There were reports that irdeto Free-x cards weren't working. Anyone tried ANY OTHER irdeto cards?

[selobaba]

selobaba have you got the usb folders for update of Vu+ team image ?

I have been on their site but it is all German.

I have found the image but its a nfi image and I really need the files for the usb.

yes i do and the instruction,

Format the usb stick to fat32 file system first, in the usb stick create folder named--- vuplus--- in that folder create a subfolder name--- duo--- and put all 3 files in duo folder...

selo :respect-050:

[selobaba]

1. Create a empty FAT32 USB-Stick on your PC!

2. Create an directory on the USB-Stick named vuplus!

3. Create in the directory vuplus an another subdirectory named duo!

4. Unzip the files for flashing-USB and copy the Files for flashing needed in the directory duo!

5. Put the USB-Stick in an USB-Port on the VU+Duo!

6. Power On the VU+Duo and he will do the flashing process, you can see all you need in the Display of the Vu+Duo!

Thanks to shuttle from vuplus germany,



selo:sifone:

[gbsatti]

Hi :), i got my vu+ since tuesday, and im very impressed.

But i have some problems, when i want to stream a channel on my computer, i can only stream channels which are in the same provider that im watching on tv (but i still cant stream encrypted channels that are in the same provider).

Is there a solution to stream any channel on my pc while im watching a channel on TV ?

Another problem is that when i edit my channels with dreambox edit, after some times, channels that i have deleted before with dreambox edit comes again, i don't know why :( and i dont understand why there is no way to delete channels directly from my vu+ duo, it's a great disadvantage i think :/

[OldSkul]

In :/media/ba/.bafatchec: Operation not permited
link on Barry Allen device not possible - maybe Fat ,sorry!

Iam getting this error. I already tried 2 USB sticks and hp format tool.

And VU support page doesnt work atm. It looks like someone erased it.

[Keano]

selobaba mate what is the root password for the VTi image ?

It is asking for a password when I try and FTP or Telnet.

[A]

just root I think u write password leave blank

[Keano]

Doh :hat:

Why did I not think of that. This is where I should have listen more in school during German lessons instead of reading shoot.

[A]

htt-p://translate.google.com/ :respect-050::respect-050::respect-050:

[A]

once u put this image on flash u need to update it and then install barry allen if u wish to and update it anyway for latest drivers

[Lord^DS]

Everyone seems to be on the good way, very nice :)

[Keano]

OK I have gemini 4.60 working via barry allen but problem is front display does not work and there is no server to download from.

selobaba what image are you using mate ?


How do you get back to flash image ?

[A]

press blue button services I think u will find addons there
to get back to flash u must go back to BA plugin and select image for booting from installed images or reboot and then when BA menu comes up just choose flash

[Keano]

OK found server for gemini.

Cool found barry allen via plugin thanks A:respect-055:

Don't really like gemini image, to be honest for me the best image so far is PLi.

[A]

use what u want does the front panel come on maybe from menu u need to set frontend display, check

[A]

If gemini works on on USB put nabilo if u want. BUT NEVER PUT ANY IMAGE ON FLASH EXCEPT FOR PLI OR VTI
Also for the flash is better if u use B.Allen for ur images
Study Barry Allen its good I use it on my DM 800

[Keano]

Ok trying Nabilo now via usb barry allen and I like it but same as Gemini front display is all green squares.

[A]

see if there is a display option or LCD dispaly.
U can put VTI image TOO on usb and try it, remember to update again as flash is different from USB usb needs its own updates
As VTI image u updated so too update others

[Keano]

Me and my big mouth, once I started putting PLi image through it paces it starts to crash.
Going back to VTi in flash and Nabilo or Gemini on usb, just have to make do with the display for now.

[A]

I think there is a difference in hardware on the dispaly between DM8000 AND VU+Duo this is why u have this problem now try ur card in newcs on gemini or nabilo
16 Digit Alphanummeric VFD Display on the VU+ and the DM8000 has Oled Display

[Keano]

Yes that is what I was also thinking.

Something else I noticed before when using gemini I was not able access my HDD. I think this is because I am working from USB so think I need to mount my HDD.

[A]

but I am sure with PLI or VTI the display is ok

[terrorman]

oh by the way, some poeople should stop talking crap about azbox only lasting 6 months, and dm8000 is still beta is it not, i do know the dm7000 i have was one hell of a long time beta so whats the moaning for, the azbox is working well on beta at the mo thanks. yes still bugs to fix just like most of the dmm recivers out theire. what ever reciver you have, just enjoy.

is true if, but a small and significant difference, EVERYTHING WORKS NOW!

[OldSkul]

iam now using BA with nabilo. I have to say its great! No problems at all. Nabilo is really stable image.
I also managed to get recording to my nas working. Superb.

[A]

and what about front display like keano said ??

[OldSkul]

front display isnt working properly

[terrorman]

by what I read and see the hardware differences are obvious, do not look much, or the chip is the same.

I do not think you can compare the 8000 with this device, since it is lower in many benefits.

--------------------

sounds interesting, I also think that without the possibility of adding new tuner, interchangeability, the deco is semi - dead, now we tuner T-S-C.

Another issue is the chip does not support 1080p, dreambox 8000 if supports 1080p, so far not been developed further.

I see a problem with CI module and the devil, which did not affect 8000.

no SD card reader or CF, you know where connected on motherboard to add card reader "?, an internal USB serious enough.

the advantage of 128MB + of ram right now is not so.

no coaxial audio output, a must for me.

--------------------

after all this, it has a bad pint, but do not say that is a clone of the 8000, because I do not think so. (I say this for the hardware)

Now it's all very nice, it's better to wait a bit and see what it takes to start this device, see the response from the community.

It would be very good hand Nabilo goal here, but if they like the DGS better not. (hard ko)


What if I think it's ugly and expensive, I'm sorry I can not shut up

for which you dream of having a 8000 half the price ... keep dreaming is free.

thanks for the information and images. :respect-053:


_________________________________ __________-
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9679/demo2n.jpg

[Likvid]

Hahaha..it's funny how some people even make up a picture of Azbox crashing, this is not a religion so relax dudes.

[OldSkul]

Where is new section? LOL is this that hard to make?

[A]

Did u or anyone got DVB subtitles working ?

[pipino]

its clear if you want all the missing bits terror man mentioned from this box put 500€ more witch is crazy,,just one thing how hot the PSu area gets after an hour of operation??Kathrein UFS910 gets extremly hot

[Keano]

m8 no problem with my PSU area, box has been on since 09.00am and everything is normal.

[pipino]

by the way i dedicate this cool picture to NEOTIONBOX and His special friend HUGO :D

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9679/demo2n.jpg

[passete]

by the way i dedicate this cool picture to NEOTIONBOX and His special friend HUGO :D

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9679/demo2n.jpg

Lol :respect-023:

[xanadu]

for which you dream of having a 8000 half the price ... keep dreaming is free.

thanks for the information and images. :respect-053:


_________________________________ __________-
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9679/demo2n.jpg


Well said....


The first VU+ goes up in flames. :D

[Lord^DS]

Well said....


The first VU+ goes up in flames. :D

We did never said it was a clone.....

As long it gives everyone what is in their needs and it's working then it's OK.

Paying the double for 2 slots you don't need and a dvd player is a bit much, don't you think so?

The DM8000 is certainly no bad receiver, it's the nightmare of your wallet :banghead:

Also somewhere I begin to believe that you and some other DM8000 lovers are getting afraid that this newcomer is getting more users and more support then the DM8000 has, not?
Don't be afraid it's just happening... :respect-013:

[pipino]

Well said....


The first VU+ goes up in flames. :D

a bit harsh for a box you dont even have or know no!!

[A]

Lol:biggrinjester:
If my box dont work on Monday when I get it this thread will be deleted :respect-013::D:D:D
and it will be first VU+duo to BURN

[Lord^DS]

Lol:biggrinjester:
If my box dont work on Monday when I get it this thread will be deleted :respect-013::D:D:D
and it will be first VU+duo to BURN

We keep our fingers crossed that you are getting a working sample :applause-038:

[A]

YES:drool5::drool5:

[selobaba]

GUYS,
before using/installing barry allen make sure image in the flash is VTI thats the base image, do not use PLI as base image for barry allen...

The vfd not displaying barry allen loaded images is do to a hardware difference from dm8000, vfd display is perfect with VTI and PLI images.


selo :respect-048:

[selobaba]

Me and my big mouth, once I started putting PLi image through it paces it starts to crash.
Going back to VTi in flash and Nabilo or Gemini on usb, just have to make do with the display for now.

Best images in barry allen for me are NEWENIGMA2---GEMINI2 and OOZOON.


selo :respect-051:

[selobaba]

CAUTION;

in barry allen folder there is a file called ((DEBIAN)) DO NOT install that, it will lock up your box.


selo :respect-048:

[Likvid]

Anyway a Popcorn Hour C-200 which is the best mediaplayer you get for 300 euro, and then buy a Vu+Duo for 420 euro which is total 720 euro.

And the DM8000 can't beat the Popcorn C-200 when it comes to being a mediaplayer and playing audio and movies at high quality.

Anyway guys..i am getting the new IPBOX 9900HD which comes next week out in Germany, it's built for Enigma2, you know you want that box as well so start getting your wallets ready, hahaha....

[dubious]

Nothing will compare to Dreambox, people say killer and so on but when they have been on the market for 1 year it's dead like all dreambox wannabees.

I had them all except Azbox, Ipbox what a joke, their software is crap, triple dragon, software crap there as well, the list can go on....

And now someone says Dreambox killer i had to look in the thread and what do i see? the wannabee Marusys receiver, Marusys made the Kahtrein UFS910and you all know how that went? half baked software crippling.

I am buying a DM800 or DM8000 next week and i am glad i am done with all Linux wannabee boxes that promises so much but can't deliver as most coders are crap.

I am pretty fed up as you can see but after wasting so much money trying to go a cheaper way i have learned there is no cheap way, there is only one way and that is to pay the premium to be part of the Dreambox community and then be happy.


Anyway a Popcorn Hour C-200 which is the best mediaplayer you get for 300 euro, and then buy a Vu+Duo for 420 euro which is total 720 euro.

And the DM8000 can't beat the Popcorn C-200 when it comes to being a mediaplayer and playing audio and movies at high quality.

Anyway guys..i am getting the new IPBOX 9900HD which comes next week out in Germany, it's built for Enigma2, you know you want that box as well so start getting your wallets ready, hahaha....


Hmm, bit of change of tune then :)

[pipino]

may be some freebies did that :D

[kebien]

Now with the serious stuff:

Can't it display 4:2:2 profiles? sd and hd?

How good is as a media player? file formats it can play natively ?

Can you mount your shares?

[Lord^DS]

Now with the serious stuff:

Can't it display 4:2:2 profiles? sd and hd?

How good is as a media player? file formats it can play natively ?

Can you mount your shares?

The main chip is capable doing 4:2:2 but no software support atm (will come)

It's HD, ofcourse also SD.

Mediaplayer, must be tested, but this works for sure: (can other pepople confirm this or give a better report on the mediaplayer?)

* AUD-1A MP3 simple test (mp3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR) OK
* AUD-1B MP3 VBR test (mp3 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps VBR) OK
* AUD-1C MP3 pro test (SBR) (mp3 pro 2.0 48KHz 96Kbps CBR) (verify that the sampling rate is actually 48Khz=yes, otherwise P) OK
* AUD-1D MP3 multichanel test (mp3 5.1 48KHz 192Kbps CBR) OK

H. Compatibility : Supported video codecs
MPEG1 and MPEG2

* VID-1A VCD with file only compatibility test (VCD MPEG1 1150 Kbps + MP2 224 Kbps)OK
* VID-1B SVCD with file only compatibility test (SVCD MPEG2 VBR ~1350 Kbps (max 2520 Kbps) + MP2 224 Kbps)OK
* VID-1C KVCD with file only compatibility test (KVCD MPEG2 VBR ~1550 Kbps (max 9800 Kbps) + MP2 224 Kbps)OK
* VID-1D standard MPEG2 MP@HL 720p test (MPEG2 MP@HL HD 720p 1280*720*60 + MP2 224 Kbps)OK
* VID-1E standard MPEG2 MP@HL 1080i test OK


Microsoft MPEG4 (M$ MPEG4 V3, DivX 3.xx, DivX 3 NBC ...)

* VID-2A DivX3 simple test (DivX 3 + MP3 CBR) OK
* VID-2B DivX3 Bitrate Crash Test (crash test with 4 levels of complexity, write down the last supported level) OK

[A]

for using images on USB the formatted usb stick has to be fat or fat32 ?

[OldSkul]

Fat32

[Lord^DS]

Settings:

I saw some people have misery with the settings there for i give you the links for the latest Likra settings.
It's a matter of taste but I like the Likra settings most.

Enigma2 2 LNB settings(13-01-2010) click (http://users.pandora.be/testbase/VU+/Settings/E2_2_SAT_likra13.1.2010.rar)
Enigma2 4 LNB settings(13-01-2010) click (http://users.pandora.be/testbase/VU+/Settings/E2_4_SAT_likra13.1.2010.rar)
Enigma2 8 LNB settings(13-01-2010) click (http://users.pandora.be/testbase/VU+/Settings/E2_8_SAT_likra13.1.2010.rar)
Enigma2 Rotor settings (17-01-2010) click (http://users.pandora.be/testbase/VU+/Settings/E2_ROTOR_likra17.1.2010.rar)

[foggy]

Can you tell me the folders that these go in (as i assume it will be different to my ipbox)

[Lord^DS]

Normaly you use DBedit for transfering but if you IPbox is Enigma2 this should work.
You can find DBedit here: click (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dreamboxedit/files/dreamboxedit/DreamBoxEdit%203.00.00/DreamBoxEdit-3.0.0.0-setup.exe/download)

[OldSkul]

For those who want great subtitle plugin, here it is:
http://www.krkadoni.com/log/index.php/ddamir-subtitle-player/
With this plugin you can add subtitles to live movie.
This isnt plugin for DVB subtitles!

[gbsatti]

Hi :), i got my vu+ since tuesday, and im very impressed.

But i have some problems, when i want to stream a channel on my computer, i can only stream channels which are in the same provider that im watching on tv (but i still cant stream encrypted channels that are in the same provider).

Is there a solution to stream any channel on my pc while im watching a channel on TV ?

Another problem is that when i edit my channels with dreambox edit, after some times, channels that i have deleted before with dreambox edit comes again, i don't know why :( and i dont understand why there is no way to delete channels directly from my vu+ duo, it's a great disadvantage i think :/

And i have the same problem as streaming while recording :18:

can someone inform me please :respect-059:

[A]

For those who want great subtitle plugin, here it is:
http://www.krkadoni.com/log/index.php/ddamir-subtitle-player/
With this plugin you can add subtitles to live movie.
This isnt plugin for DVB subtitles!
ok but what about for normal tv channels in DM 800 I use 2sub plugin

[Lord^DS]

@GBsatti - what is happening precisely?

[gbsatti]

@GBsatti - what is happening precisely?

For example, if im watching Jsc +1 on my TV, i can only stream on my pc Jsc +1 to +10. But if i want to stream channels from any other provider in my pc, nothing happen (vlc start but is not buffering anything), i already set my tuners like this :

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/3696/screenshothe.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/screenshothe.jpg/)

And if on my pc JSC +1 is streaming and on my vu+ i change to JSC +2 it works (and i resolved my problem to stream encrypted channels on same provider) but when i want to change to other channels provider it wont start, and sometimes it crashes and reboot :respect-044:

[foggy]

Normaly you use DBedit for transfering but if you IPbox is Enigma2 this should work.
You can find DBedit here: click (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dreamboxedit/files/dreamboxedit/DreamBoxEdit%203.00.00/DreamBoxEdit-3.0.0.0-setup.exe/download)



Thanks i mean the folders for putting the settings in. I have dreamset and dbedit but i have changed the standard folders to suit the ipbox

satellites.xml (for the ipbox i have them in /etc/tuxbox/)
services.bouquets (/usr/local/share/enigma2/)

cheers

[A]

just store the settings in a folder and send them to your box with dreambox edit 3.0

[OldSkul]

i also noticed that VTi image doesnt have keys folder...
I cannot use mbox emu because of that.
Damn :/

[Keano]

m8 just make your own key folder then FTP over to /var

Also make sure firmware is up to date via setup menu.


I am going full circle and back to PLi, just because VTi don't have a EPG plugin for sly uk. Can't use any db8000 even though they work OK the display on the front drives me crazy.

Give it a couple of weeks and I am sure we will see Nabilo image for this box.

[A]

yes and images will be fixed to adapt to the front dispaly. The box seems sold out, my m8 wanted one he will have to wait till 1st week or 2nd week :mad:Feb

[kebien]

The main chip is capable doing 4:2:2 but no software support atm (will come)

It's HD, ofcourse also SD.



Are you sure?
Nothing in the datasheets posted here mention 4:2:2.
Can you point that out for us?
And given is using the same chipset as dm8000,I assumed it can't.
I mean,the only ones mentioning it can do 4:2:2 are the ones pushing the box.(their own forum)
Seriously,you have to assume everything will be said to sell the box.
Do you know how the box behaves with 40 mbs video bitrates?
Will it display it correctly? would it be able to record those?

[Likvid]

It's not the same chipset as DM8000, Vu+Duo use a cheaper limited chipset from Broadcom.

Let's wait a few weeks until the happy days are over and the nagging starts about the box, everyone was so happy with Azbox, now everyone hates them.

[A]

depend what ur gonna use the box for it will serve my purpose as a 2nd DM 800 with HD and ccam.
I need it only for this NO HDD , streaming, music and all the rest is miles away from my vision so as I said earlier if it does 70 % of a DM 8000 and 100 % of a DM 800 I will be happy
BTW THE DM 800 is nothing special a hot box running ccam :001_005:

[canthackit]

been following the thread all the way with great interest, i want one :respect-applause-00

now i see the sold out signs are up:respect-047:

about time DMM were given a run for their money, and i've had DB's since day one.

regards: canthackit

[Keano]

depend what ur gonna use the box for it will serve my purpose as a 2nd DM 800 with HD and ccam.
I need it only for this NO HDD , streaming, music and all the rest is miles away from my vision so as I said earlier if it does 70 % of a DM 8000 and 100 % of a DM 800 I will be happy
BTW THE DM 800 is nothing special a hot box running ccam :001_005:

Spot on m8, yesterday I was able to watch UTD v Hull without a single glitch unlike the last 12 months with the Cuberevo I have been using.

How many peope are bothered about 4:2:2 and streaming ?

Most people just want to turn their box on and watch a movie or a game without the thing going off.

This box does that, It also records one channel ( inc scrambled ) while watching another, it also plays mp3's and divx movies.

I am happy with it and it can only get better, I think when you see dealers all over Europe with the sold out sign on it then that says it all.

[canthackit]

i'm with you Keano on all matters :respect-048:

now to try and find one..................

regards: canthackit

[Lord^DS]

Are you sure?
Nothing in the datasheets posted here mention 4:2:2.
Can you point that out for us?
And given is using the same chipset as dm8000,I assumed it can't.
I mean,the only ones mentioning it can do 4:2:2 are the ones pushing the box.(their own forum)
Seriously,you have to assume everything will be said to sell the box.
Do you know how the box behaves with 40 mbs video bitrates?
Will it display it correctly? would it be able to record those?

You can find the info here : click (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2009/0304361.html)

[Likvid]

What i am fed up with all these boxes is that they seem to be made for coders to play around with and not for us ordinary people who wants to put the box on and it should work.

I am so fed up with configuration and restarting processes and all **** that it makes me puke, even my Cuberevo is alot of experimenting all the time, i even put it away for now as i need to WATCH tv and not fiddling with scripts.

So if the Vu+ Duo does what you say, then i will buy one, load one image and load the EMU you want and then actuallay watch without constant strange symptoms that most other Linux boxes seems to be victim of.

[enrico001u]

What i am fed up with all these boxes is that they seem to be made for coders to play around with and not for us ordinary people who wants to put the box on and it should work.

I am so fed up with configuration and restarting processes and all **** that it makes me puke, even my Cuberevo is alot of experimenting all the time, i even put it away for now as i need to WATCH tv and not fiddling with scripts.

So if the Vu+ Duo does what you say, then i will buy one, load one image and load the EMU you want and then actuallay watch without constant strange symptoms that most other Linux boxes seems to be victim of.



I can see your point likvid but they are not allowed to include emus or softcams etc.. so they make it possible for coders to do instead!

Thats why they are like that.

[kebien]

You can find the info here : click (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2009/0304361.html)

I hope you understand what the link is about.
Is NOT about this specific chipset,nor describe with any accuracy what's included in the chipset.
Is always a MAY have,as a proposition.
Patenting is too generic.

Please refer us exactly where we can see this chipset specify it does 4:2:2 profiles.
(again,is not about to find problems for the fans of this box,is only to see what the real potential is,if you remember QualiTV receivers were never advertised to do 4:2:2,but they did)

[pipino]

to be honest with you 4.2.2 without Blind scan is useless ,,and that kind of transmissions are for pure Sat DXers with motors...etc ,i see it realy useless if you have the tipical Astra /Hotbird sats on fixed positions..regards

[Lord^DS]

I hope you understand what the link is about.
Is NOT about this specific chipset,nor describe with any accuracy what's included in the chipset.
Is always a MAY have,as a proposition.
Patenting is too generic.

Please refer us exactly where we can see this chipset specify it does 4:2:2 profiles.
(again,is not about to find problems for the fans of this box,is only to see what the real potential is,if you remember QualiTV receivers were never advertised to do 4:2:2,but they did)


Video display subsystem 232 is based on a video network that may include a digital noise reduction filter to reduce MPEG artifacts, including block noise, and reduce mosquito noise; a digital contour removal function; AVC/MPEG/VC-1 feeders (that may handle the YUV4:2:0 data format); graphics feeders (that may handle the YUV4:2:2 and RGB data formats); video feeders (that may handle YUV4:2:2 data formats); video scalers (including, in some embodiments, 2D scalers using an flexible FIR algorithm); a motion adaptive deinterlacing function (which may include adaptive deinterlacing for 480i or 576i input formats to 480p, 576p, 720p, and 1080i resolutions and 3:2/2:2 pull-down detection and adaptive 3:2 pulldown progressive frame filtering); capture blocks (which may store YUV4:2:2 data formats); one or more video compositors (for combining video and graphics); and film grain technology (“FGT”) for adding film grain to decoded video.

FIG. 9 shows video and graphics display module 238 in more detail. Video and graphics display module 238 receives input signal S from AVD 230. The feeder supports a number of frame buffer formats. In addition, a number of frame buffer formats commonly used by software codecs are included and registered in Microsoft as Four-Character Code (FOURCC). The scope is limited to 4:2:0 and 4:2:2 formats only, and other formats are not supported (such as 4:4:4). The AVD 230 feeder is capable of HD resolutions and can support pan-scan operations.

AVD 230 may use a linear image format. Image data may be stored in DRAM in a striped format i.e., slicing an image into a series of equal-sized vertical strips and then tacking the strips together. The height of a stripe is a programmable parameter, this must be at least as large as the ‘tallest’ image that will be stored in the buffer. It is generally made a little larger than that to achieve optimal DRAM bank alignment. Though the stripe width is programmable but feeder supports only 64-bytes stripe width. A picture in AVD 230 format contains two separate arrays, one is for luma (Y) components, and the other is for chroma (Cb and Cr) components. Chroma components are stored Cb/Cr interleaved, with the same stripe width and a programmable stripe height. Packed YUV For a 4:2:2 picture, pixels are paired together as CbYCrY quadruplets. They are organized in a raster scanning order. There are a number of permutations within a quadruplet. They are represented in FOURCC as: CbYCrY (UYVY); YCbYCr (YUY2); and YCrYCb (YVY2).

Video feeder 902, shown in FIG. 9, may support a subset of the number of frame buffer formats that the AVD 230 feeder supports. Packed For a 4:2:2 picture, pixels are paired together as CbYCrY quadruplets. They may be organized in a raster scanning order. There may be a number of permutations within a quadruplet. The permutations may be represented in FOURCC as: CbYCrY (UYVY); YCbYCr (YUY2); YCrYCb (YVY2).

[sonic1]

What i am fed up with all these boxes is that they seem to be made for coders to play around with and not for us ordinary people who wants to put the box on and it should work.

I am so fed up with configuration and restarting processes and all **** that it makes me puke, even my Cuberevo is alot of experimenting all the time, i even put it away for now as i need to WATCH tv and not fiddling with scripts.

So if the Vu+ Duo does what you say, then i will buy one, load one image and load the EMU you want and then actuallay watch without constant strange symptoms that most other Linux boxes seems to be victim of.

PLI is totally open source so feel free to make changes and submit any changes you make.

What more can you ask for ?

[kebien]

Video display subsystem 232 is based on a video network that may include a digital noise reduction filter to reduce MPEG artifacts, including block noise, and reduce mosquito noise; a digital contour removal function; AVC/MPEG/VC-1 feeders (that may handle the YUV4:2:0 data format); graphics feeders (that may handle the YUV4:2:2 and RGB data formats); video feeders (that may handle YUV4:2:2 data formats); video scalers (including, in some embodiments, 2D scalers using an flexible FIR algorithm); a motion adaptive deinterlacing function (which may include adaptive deinterlacing for 480i or 576i input formats to 480p, 576p, 720p, and 1080i resolutions and 3:2/2:2 pull-down detection and adaptive 3:2 pulldown progressive frame filtering); capture blocks (which may store YUV4:2:2 data formats); one or more video compositors (for combining video and graphics); and film grain technology (“FGT”) for adding film grain to decoded video.

FIG. 9 shows video and graphics display module 238 in more detail. Video and graphics display module 238 receives input signal S from AVD 230. The feeder supports a number of frame buffer formats. In addition, a number of frame buffer formats commonly used by software codecs are included and registered in Microsoft as Four-Character Code (FOURCC). The scope is limited to 4:2:0 and 4:2:2 formats only, and other formats are not supported (such as 4:4:4). The AVD 230 feeder is capable of HD resolutions and can support pan-scan operations.

AVD 230 may use a linear image format. Image data may be stored in DRAM in a striped format i.e., slicing an image into a series of equal-sized vertical strips and then tacking the strips together. The height of a stripe is a programmable parameter, this must be at least as large as the ‘tallest’ image that will be stored in the buffer. It is generally made a little larger than that to achieve optimal DRAM bank alignment. Though the stripe width is programmable but feeder supports only 64-bytes stripe width. A picture in AVD 230 format contains two separate arrays, one is for luma (Y) components, and the other is for chroma (Cb and Cr) components. Chroma components are stored Cb/Cr interleaved, with the same stripe width and a programmable stripe height. Packed YUV For a 4:2:2 picture, pixels are paired together as CbYCrY quadruplets. They are organized in a raster scanning order. There are a number of permutations within a quadruplet. They are represented in FOURCC as: CbYCrY (UYVY); YCbYCr (YUY2); and YCrYCb (YVY2).

Video feeder 902, shown in FIG. 9, may support a subset of the number of frame buffer formats that the AVD 230 feeder supports. Packed For a 4:2:2 picture, pixels are paired together as CbYCrY quadruplets. They may be organized in a raster scanning order. There may be a number of permutations within a quadruplet. The permutations may be represented in FOURCC as: CbYCrY (UYVY); YCbYCr (YUY2); YCrYCb (YVY2).
This is not an specific chip specs,this are outlines,what MAY contain.
Do you understand the words "MAY" signify they may decide not to use the applied segment?
What you are reading is an application for a patent,the intent is to cover different layouts for a chip design.
And is GENERIC,this MAY apply to family of chips,or a single chip,or a SOC or other type.


All that say that this things MAY BE INCLUDED,not that THEY ARE.
This is how they define what the chips MAY be able to do.

So far,it is not known THIS PRECISE CHIP does all what says up there,or what things doesn't apply to it.

[Lord^DS]

This is not an specific chip specs,this are outlines,what MAY contain.
Do you understand the words "MAY" signify they may decide not to use the applied segment?
What you are reading is an application for a patent,the intent is to cover different layouts for a chip design.
And is GENERIC,this MAY apply to family of chips,or a single chip,or a SOC or other type.


All that say that this things MAY BE INCLUDED,not that THEY ARE.
This is how they define what the chips MAY be able to do.

So far,it is not known THIS PRECISE CHIP does all what says up there,or what things doesn't apply to it.

The chip can handle it, it all depends on the software......

[terrorman]

mbox-image-bm750-20100118180632.nfi

Work fine fine, and very speed.

Work DM8000

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9033/screenshotzl.jpg

Channel HD All KO: Signal 12%
HDD KO

[terrorman]

Tuners: S - C - T: OK
Motor: OK
TDT: OK
CCcam Client 2.1.3: OK
Channel List: Problem Bouquetes
HDD: KO Problem UnMount
Speed Load Image: Normal
Speed Image: 120%
Speed CCcam: 120%
Speed Zapping: 120%

Tomorrow I will test more, I liked the speed of the image, we see that this fact if you run in this way will be very interesting for the 800 Chinese.

[hanswurscht]

reading now 12 Sites with some wrong facts, stupid compares and more :)

Got this Box since some Days, and I DONT compare it to anything, because I need only a working Box with HD working on all Sender.

So please stop compare to AZHD or Dream, its fully different, except only E2 to Dream.

But I will show you the Points, which are different:
AZHD Hardware Blindscan if you have a +
Feeds only on AZHD
Most Videoformats working

Compare to DMM, you cant, you can only compare E2 which is open Source! Chips are different, Board is different and READER are different in Drivers(not much but enough to make Problems)

So here my Tests for you:
First packing out, its all clean and really good Package, Board is clean and tidy.
HDD installing, hmm, must thinking some Minutes about, because no Pic in Manual, but got it ;)

OK Hardware ready, now we have three Flash Images for now:
Original
VTI
PLI

Original its on the Box, a little modify and we have all Plugins like in VTI ;)
Barry Allen is working(big thx to Gutemine) like a Charme, tested on Original 1801 and VTI 1501
Barry Allen make the boot very slow on VTI
Original is ... nice but unspectular, good for Beginners I think, no FTDI Drivers in, found no Way to make it fast, so untested.
Cardreaders are uncompatible on some things in original, also no Oscam working, thats bad!

PLI
FTDI build in and a nice Beta Image(yes,Beta, some terrible Bugs)
NFI Backup not working here
Some Skins are not really working, Emumanager is crashing (tested build 2301)
But fast and nice looking Image, some more todo on it.

VTI
my Favorit Image, because it has it all what I need and like.
But first, if you need smargo, and dont like Problems, flash this Image at first Time with Lan and serial!! Its important!
BA working
FTDI working
Oscam only build 680 working (we see the Readerproblems here...), of course this is only for internal Reader. On Smargo all actual Builds working(or other Reader with USB2serial)
NewCS not tested, sorry, my favorite is OScam ;) (only tested USB Version with Smargo and this is working)
Sbox-needs to be tested
CCcam works with both Readers, but not on all Cards as we know.
Be carefull, if you start first CCcam, it takes both internal Readers, so your favorite Cardreader must be started first.
2 Records on different Sender and at the same Time 3 Streams on different PCs, all working,Gui as fast as without ;)
Gui, its amazing fast, I like it
Easy Plugin install, and Mbox, I have NO Problem with it, its running like a Charme, for 2 Days now, without any freeze of course.
My Card is running three Times faster in ms Time on Smargo like on AZHD(using same OScamversion :):) ) times from 200ms is great.
Backup from the whole Image with all my Changes is done in 4 Minutes, fine

Now the negative:
PCstreaming, changing the Channel is a lucky Thing, most Time not working.
OScam not 100% compatible, seems to be the same with NewCS (Reader Driver are a little bit different)
cant play all Videoformats like on AZHD, Sound is noisy on some Avi (when I take VLC it works, so it cant be a big Bug)
My Zeta Cams not working (not needed for now, but some Guys use it)
Problems on HDMI detect (it works when you go to standby or go to another hdmi device and back)
Multidecrypt IS working! have tested it on CCcam. Of course its not working on Cams which couldnt multidecrypt ;)
And some Babybugs, I dont remember them all, not a Nightmare in it (thats what i remember ;) )

So for me as old AZHD User its not only a Step forward, its some lightyears forward :respect-067:

Also I see some Teams hard working on every Bug in there E2, but I dunno Marusys Team.
Only the future can show, if they have enough knowhow for to make the basic Driver better(for me the Cardreaderdriver are the biggest Error!)
But for the first 5 Weeks out, this STB is a very good one.

And no, I dont need 4 Tuners, I dont change them, I dont need any DVD Device because a have hundreds in my PCs and can use them over VLC(also not needed because I have all my Vids as File ),I also dont need a brand in front named DM Multimedia and I dont pay for DMM.
So this Box is something between DMM800 and DMM8000 and NOT from DMM, that was my Reason to buy it.
I have now a working Box which will be better every Day with new Improvements and Im sure it has a good Future on the Market.
Im NOW happy with it, not in 5,6 or 14 Month like on AZ.

But of course its NOT a DMM, DMM Freaks should better buy a DMM, they read the brand then every Day in front of STB(it seems to be urgent for some People, not for me)

[Likvid]

First honest review, thanks.

[A]

Original 2.5 image released
Ver 2.5 Changes

1. Clean up build tree.
2. Video Information bug is fixed.
3. Separate the GPL part from proprietary driver.
4. Plugin update
5. After changing skin, just restart enigma2. NEU!!

h-t-t-p://archive.vuplus.com/download_2.5/

[bobonthejob]

Like i said... i have ordered my box and it should arrive this week. I am a total newbie on the sat scene...so will need a lotta guidance :) help.

Is there somewhere in particular i need to start. Could someone please draft something together at a very low level for any newbie to start using the multiple of images and at the ease at which it can be done. Ive done so much reading that my head is about to explode. lol

Hopefully will be able to configure cccam.

Thanks all in advance...Cant wait to get my box. Although i dont know what i will do with it lol

[A]

just opening my box will do a simple guide :respect-051:

[bobonthejob]

Cheers 'A' Your a star...

I wanna open my box...hasnt arrivved yet :(

lol

[OldSkul]

Two biggest problems are:
DVB subtitles dont work.
Newcs doesnt work with internal cardreader.

One small problem. VTI image doesnt have /keys folder. If i make one it gets erased after reboot. Because of that i am not using it. But i think this image is the best atm (flash image). PLi image is too unstable.


Otherwise great receiver. Well built and it works great with Centauri 9/1 switch.

We all know how many problem DM800 had when it came out ;)

[hanswurscht]

Two biggest problems are:
DVB subtitles dont work.
Newcs doesnt work with internal cardreader.

One small problem. VTI image doesnt have /keys folder. If i make one it gets erased after reboot.

Otherwise great receiver. Well built and it works great with Centauri 9/1 switch.

We all know how many problem DM800 had when it came out ;)

Easy to handle, dont need that Folder where it is.
You make a Link (symbolic Link) to usr/whatever and put your data there.
Or, most Cams are working with a Parameter like Oscam or mbox or other.
you start it with the folder Parameter and tells the Cam where your config and the Rest is

[bobonthejob]

If you make the symbolic link, doent the link also get lost at reboot?

[hanswurscht]

no, in usr nothing deleted

[OldSkul]

Can you write more? I dont really understand you? :)

[bobonthejob]

@oldskull - I am assuming that hanswurscht is referring to making a link...rather that having a folder there.

Where does this /keys folder need to be? or is it at the root?

btw - hanswurscht is suggesting using the command ln -s <source> <target>

I hope thats right. This will create a symbolic link from one location to another...

[hanswurscht]

Linux basics- how to make a symlink....

Folder usr, isnt overwriting after reboot, so you can make a symlink to usr/keys and the symlink is then in root/keys

So you have a street but this is blocked and you drive another Way and target is the same

[bobonthejob]

so the command that need to be issues is ...

ln -s /usr/keys /keys

Is that coorect.....or the wrong way round?

[hanswurscht]

first- do NFI Backup (if you have PLI Image, you cant, not working for now)
second try your command and look for the symlink working(mkdir bevor in usr and give the Dir Rights 755!!)
third reboot and look if your symlink is still there

[A]

I am trying to install sats manually everytime I go to positioner setup it crashes Using gemini 8000 image on USB
wHAT CAN BE WRONG , i am setting it up the same way as a DM 800
I have sets the sats from tuner configuration using just one tuner here

[goran]

Thanx @ all!!!

But if you are saying "make a....", then can you please re-trace your steps and do not presume a lot, namely do not presume that anyone knows anything...

So, write in an ABC manner, please....

0) find this in ... folder and

1) use this editor

2) write the following instead of...

3) etc.

Thanx!

[A]

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=125046
for all help and questions go to above link
Rest comparisions and other crap can carry on here

[bobonthejob]

Cheers 'A' now just awaiting your lovely turorial ;)

lol thanks.

[hanswurscht]

0. :) Do always a Backup of your Image, if something goes wrong
1. make a Folder in usr/ named keys, give Rights 755 (Path= /usr/keys)
2. open telnet and make a Symlink to /var/keys or what u need:
ln -s <target> <symlinkname/folder>
3. check if u see the symlink and is it working(klick on it it must bring you to the Folder you will use)
4. if you are working with Startscripts, look into etc/init.d, there is a Data named bootup, on VTI Image symlinks are set:

#csh

if [ ! -d /dev/dvb/adapter0 ];
then mkdir /dev/dvb/adapter0 -p
fi

insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6.6/extra/procmk.ko
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6.6/extra/fb.ko
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6.6/extra/dvb-core.ko
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6.6/extra/dvb-bcm7335.ko
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.18-6.6/extra/cdfs.ko


#Don't like to change enigma2 source.
#rm -rf /dev/fb
#mkdir /dev/fb
#ln -s /dev/fb0 /dev/fb/0

#echo 10 > /proc/progress
#[ -e /dev/dbox/oled0 ] && ln -s /dev/dbox/oled0 /dev/dbox/lcd0

#mount -t sysfs sysfs /sys
#echo 11 > /proc/progress

depmod -Ae
echo 12 > /proc/progress

for mod in isofs cifs usb-storage sr_mod vfat cdrom ntfs nfsd; do
modprobe $mod
done

for mod in sata_svw libata nls_base nls_cp437 nls_iso8859-1; do
modprobe $mod
done

echo 13 > /proc/progress

#(sleep 10; cat /etc/fscking.raw > /dev/dbox/oled0; sleep 1d) &
#pid=$!
#mount -at nonfs,nosmbfs,noncpfs,nocifs
#kill $pid

mount -at nonfs,nosmbfs,noncpfs,nocifs
echo 14 > /proc/progress

swapon -a
echo 15 > /proc/progress

tar xzf /etc/var.tar.gz -C /
echo 16 > /proc/progress

# sleep after 10min
hdparm -S 120 /dev/discs/disc0/disc
#hdparm2 -S 120 /dev/discs/disc0/disc

echo 17 > /proc/progress

# set UDMA66, enable dma
hdparm -d 1 /dev/discs/disc0/disc
hdparm -X66 /dev/discs/disc0/disc

# accustic management
hdparm -M 128 /dev/discs/disc0/disc

# disable dma for cd drive ...
# we remove this when the dma timeout problem is fixed!
#hdparm -d 0 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd

#echo 18 > /proc/progress
#for mod in dreambox_keyboard fp bcm7400; do
# modprobe $mod
#done

echo 19 > /proc/progress

cat /etc/videomode > /proc/stb/video/videomode

echo 20 > /proc/progress

for mod in rt73 zd1211b; do
modprobe $mod
done

#echo "loading madwifi modules"
#for x in wlan ath_rate; do
# for mod in `ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/net | grep $x | cut -d . -f 0`; do
# modprobe $mod
# done
#done
#modprobe ath_pci

echo 21 > /proc/progress

[ -e /etc/dropbear/dropbear_rsa_host_key ] && /usr/bin/showiframe /boot/bootlogo.mvi || /usr/bin/showiframe /boot/bootlogo_wait.mvi

hostname -F /etc/hostname

echo 22 > /proc/progress

#/usr/bin/wdog /usr/bin/dccamd -
ln -s /usr/keys /var/keys
ln -s /usr/scam /var/scam

echo 23 > /proc/progress

[ -e "/etc/sysctl.conf" ] && /sbin/sysctl -p "/etc/sysctl.conf"

echo 24 > /proc/progress

ldconfig

echo 25 > /proc/progress

ipkg-cl configure

if [ -f /usr/local/bin/vucamd ];
then /usr/local/bin/vucamd &
fi

/usr/bin/hotplug_br &
mount /media/ba
mount /media/cf
mount /media/usb
mount /media/hdd

So you see in big Black two examples how it works. If you need other folder, change it
Of course, any change in Data must made with a Unix Editor like Ultraedit,Proton or any other(Kate,Write or other favorites)

[A]

Cheers 'A' now just awaiting your lovely turorial ;)

lol thanks.
its taking time Lol

[goran]

Thanx!

Nopepad++ is freeware!:cool:

[OldSkul]

hanswurscht, tnx!! Will try asap

[kebien]

The chip can handle it, it all depends on the software......

Sorry to doubt you.
We have many receivers here using broacom chipsets,and only one of them do 4:2:2 from about 20 chips,and broadcom do not openly sell those,nor disclose information about it.


I surely won't take your word (nor the one from the specific forum) until is implemented into the public firmware.
(specially since the do***ents posted clearly do not support your word,nor theirs)

Not picky about it,the box should be advertised honestly,including from its supporters.
We are all potential buyers.


I have to remind you we have here dm800 using dual tuners,meaning it could also accept more tuners same way the dm8000 does.
Read about genpix tuner in North american forums.
We are not really looking for the dual tuner ability of this box specially,more in the things other boxes cannot do.(like 4:2:2 and high bitrate HD feeds that Europe do not have)

[A]

this thread got too long cant even find the posts
Help thread is there in this same section use that.
https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=125046
Closing this one.
Open a new comparision feed thread if you want