New DM8000 killer on the market

[Lord^DS]

There is anew receiver on the market with the same specs of the DM8000.
There is only 1 chip that is different but all soft based for DM works standard (not the images). Even CCCam !
Price: Less then the half of the DM8000, in Holland € 419

The box it's name is VU+ Duo and the company that is making it calls Maxdigital.

Specs:
· Open-Source Linux OS (Enigma2)
· Broadcom Mips Prosessor
· Twin DVB-S2 Tuner (Silicon tuner)
· MPEG2/ H.264 Hardware decoding (DVB compatible)
· Alphanumeric VFD Display
· 2 x Common Interface Slots
· 2 x Smartcard-Reader (Conax Embedded)
· 10/100 Mbit Ethernet Interface
· 3 x USB2.0 (1x Front /2x Back)
· 1 x intern SATA (3,5inch bracket)
· 1 x E-SATA
· 1 x V.24/RS232
· HDMI connection V1.3
· 2 x Scart
· YPrPb
· 1 x S/PDIF for digital Audio(optisch)
· Extended EPG
. MHW EPG
. Fastscan plugin
· Plugin Support (JPEG,MP3,XVID...)
. Smartreader+ compatible
· Compatible with enigma2 plugins en settings
. Handy help button on the remote
· Different skins to choose from
· Videotext
· DiSEqC 1.0,1.1 en 1.2

Video:
Video resolution CCIR 601 (720 x 576 lines), 576p, 720p, 1080i
Video decoding MPEG-2, MPEG-4 compatible
Input data rate 2-45 MSymb/s
S/N >53 dB

Audio:
Decoding AC 3, MPEG-4 (AAC-HE), MPEG-1, Layer 1, 2 and 3
Sampling rate 32/44.1/48 kHz
S/N > 65 dB

Power usage:
< 25W (in use, horizontal / 400mA LNB power)
< 20W (in use, withoutLNB)
< 1W (Deep-Standby-Mode)

[dave3dg]

Very interesting. Do you have a piccy?

[Lord^DS]

Here you go :)

http://users.pandora.be/testbase/VU+/1.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/testbase/VU+/2.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/testbase/VU+/3.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/testbase/VU+/4.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/testbase/VU+/5.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/testbase/VU+/6.jpg

http://users.pandora.be/testbase/VU+/8.jpg

[ian]

cant see the piccies.
only one shows of the open box and thats massive.ian.

[passete]

Very far far away from My Dm8000 :

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5584/dsc04445m.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/i/dsc04445m.jpg/)

Another Dreambox Joker

[Lord^DS]

cant see the piccies.
only one shows of the open box and thats massive.ian.

Should be better now, excuse me :smash:

[pascha99]

VU+ is a own company,but producer of this Box is Marusys.
MaxDigital are only Distributor,like ****** in germany.

The upper photo is from an early sample box,the official market
version have only one ram and shielded tuners.
The used chipset is a broadcom 7335.
More pics and infos ,you can find on the german "Vu-support" Forum.

[Lord^DS]

Very far far away from My Dm8000 :

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5584/dsc04445m.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/i/dsc04445m.jpg/)

Another Dreambox Joker

it will not have the same lay-out ofcourse it's not a "Clone" !

[dave3dg]

The tuners are connected straight onto the main board :117:

What happens when one or both go down?

One of my tuners on the 8k has gone **** up but all I am doing is extracting the module and sending it back under warranty.

If there was a good alternative to the Dreambox 8k I would gladly buy it and get a stiffy smashing the 8k piece of sh1te to bits:smash:.

[pascha99]

What "special kharma" shines around the 8000er sec. chip? :D

[enrico001u]

Not quite the same spec 1 massive diference
dm8000 allows 4 inputs

[simon 2003]

no optical audio either ,mind you the spdif looks optical shaped??,wouldnt try to compare to 8000,judge on its own merits

[dubious]

The tuners are connected straight onto the main board :117:

So are the main tuners on the 8k !



One of my tuners on the 8k has gone **** up but all I am doing is extracting the module and sending it back under warranty.


How are you doing that then considering they are built in to the main board ?

[pascha99]

Forget the dm8000, it plays in another price league and btw. it can
not handle 4xDVB-S2 tuners.
When you see VU+ ,think on a dream7025,but the HD-Version.

...and today it is not unnormal,that companies use ,an one chip
solution.This is good or bad in some cases.

[xanadu]

no optical audio either ,mind you the spdif looks optical shaped??,wouldnt try to compare to 8000,judge on its own merits

It has optical spdif.


Where do I plug in a DVB-T tuner ?

It's nowhere near an Azbox HD, let alone a DM8000.

[pipino]

this box actualy is made by the same guys behind Kathrein UFS910 ,witch until now i think it has the best pictures quality then other HD boxs ,,i keep Dm8000 out because is dead expensive

[dave3dg]

So are the main tuners on the 8k !



How are you doing that then considering they are built in to the main board ?

The VU+ Duo has on-board tuners. (look at the VU+ Duo pic)

The 8k has a twin tuner module which is detachable. :king-041:

[dubious]

The VU+ Duo has on-board tuners. (look at the VU+ Duo pic)

The 8k has a twin tuner module which is detachable. :king-041:

No it doesn't, unless you wanna use a soldering iron, look at the picture of the 8k above.

[Likvid]

Nothing will compare to Dreambox, people say killer and so on but when they have been on the market for 1 year it's dead like all dreambox wannabees.

I had them all except Azbox, Ipbox what a joke, their software is crap, triple dragon, software crap there as well, the list can go on....

And now someone says Dreambox killer i had to look in the thread and what do i see? the wannabee Marusys receiver, Marusys made the Kahtrein UFS910and you all know how that went? half baked software crippling.

I am buying a DM800 or DM8000 next week and i am glad i am done with all Linux wannabee boxes that promises so much but can't deliver as most coders are crap.

I am pretty fed up as you can see but after wasting so much money trying to go a cheaper way i have learned there is no cheap way, there is only one way and that is to pay the premium to be part of the Dreambox community and then be happy.

[enrico001u]

Dm8k 2 tuners onboard and also 2 detachable!

[pascha99]

Some boxes are fully crap...also my opinion.
But why, always this comparisons?

Many companies(hihi) und users don t like Enigma,,,,so you can
not call them "wanabees" boxes.
Dream blinded people force this anyway.
Also Dream aren t able todo things,that other boxes can.
When the sources and drivers,are coming...you can suck on
marusys,vu+ /teams will do this or not.

Back to topic:
A team image is ready and BarryAllen works,says the users.

[Likvid]

Problem is that the sources for these alternative boxes will never be fully open, that is the problem, they can release how many new great hardware boxes as they wish and looks great on specs, but in the end of it, the software support is what means anything and Dreambox is truly open source and the only one.

DGS is one manufacturer i am annoyed at, they beleive they have such good boxes but their software is really **** and they never listen to their customers, never answer emails and so on, they don't give a **** about you.

When i had a DM7025s DMM actually answered emails and tried to come with a solution and not to mention the huge community out there, all good coders are in DMM community today.

All these companies releasing linux boxes and beleive they will take market are just stupid as they don't get it.

Without good software support these boxes will be dead before they even entered the market.

I don't like Enigma2 so much, i liked Neutrino where you had full control, in my opinion i really liked Enigma1 but it only supports 1 tuner.

Anyone remember the linux box Elanvision? it was expensive as hell, think it costed 500 euros, they promised everything but nothing happened with the software, all crap but pretty good hardware, not to mention Darkmans boxes he tries to sell, as soon as a new box comes with linux he says it will be the king, we all know that it's all just sales BS.'

...and the last joke from Duolabs, their Qbox HD which is just a brick in the wall, they can't even code and blaim it on hardware,yeah right, but they designed the box so fix the damn hardware then before selling it to public.

..and you all know about Azbox Premium the old model, yeah right! fool people into beleiving you need to buy the Premium+ to take advantage of the features you paid for in the first Premium box they sold, we want your money once again, buy the Premium+ and we promise heaven.

[Likvid]

The VU+ Duo has on-board tuners. (look at the VU+ Duo pic)

The 8k has a twin tuner module which is detachable. :king-041:

Marusys coders can't code for twin tuner, that is the reason the box only comes with a single tuner, it's true, i am not joking.

The quality of most coders out there are just ****, they shouldn't code at all.

[sstylianou1976]

Here is what I think of HD receivers so far and I can safely say I am not impressed look what happened to Quali TV,Humax HD receivers they did not fair well and same with newer receivers since then so I am opting for Dreambox HD receivers they may be pricey but at least their receivers will still have the support for years to come as the bugs continue to be ironed out.

All in all the rival manufacturers need to come up with something more substantial to convince me to go for the alternatives so sorry guys my mind is made up Dreambox it is.

Regards,

sstylianou1976

[enrico001u]

Other manufacturers just need to be unique and bring something new and innovative to the market instead of making dreambox wannabees.

The closest to achieve this so far is the azbox hd with multicas etc.. just a shame about the poor firmware

[Lord^DS]

Other manufacturers just need to be unique and bring something new and innovative to the market instead of making dreambox wannabees.

The closest to achieve this so far is the azbox hd with multicas etc.. just a shame about the poor firmware

Maybe those want to get as close as can be to the best.
Azbox, sorry, but it will never be as good as Dreambox.
Still beta, no possibility for third party images, sux...

This new receiver gives us a good product that is almost identical as the DM8000 at half of the price. I'm also a Dreambox fan, but the DM8000 is a way above my budget... DM800 is cheaper but is also too less at a too high price. If I need a new receiver this model will be one of the candidates. It's not very knowed but it has already a lot of support. CCCam works standard on it what can not be said of many other boxes (AZbox, Qbox, ...)

Killer was maybe said a lot in my start to let everybody know about this receiver. Not the mention to let it be a killer but a good box at a good price. I don't need a DVD in my sat receiver, I have another device for doing that.

Now something else, here's a dump of the OS on it.
It shows that it's not clone and also shows it has nice things on board.

it's running a recent Linux kernel compulid on a recent gcc.

Linux version 2.6.18-6.6 (shcheong@NcshN) (gcc version 4.2.0 20070124 (prerelease) - BRCM 10ts-20080721) #105 SMP Wed Dec 23 16:42:51 CET 2009

It has standard the drivers on board for Smartreader+, ISOfs, cifs, reiserfs, NTFS (very handy) and USB drivers.

root@bm750:~# lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
sr_mod 16192 0 - Live 0xc05c3000
cdrom 43104 1 sr_mod, Live 0xc0aa8000
reiserfs 293440 0 - Live 0xc0bb0000
cifs 278672 0 - Live 0xc0ac1000
pl2303 22096 0 - Live 0xc05db000
ftdi_sio 34704 0 - Live 0xc0ab7000
belkin_sa 10000 0 - Live 0xc05b3000
usbserial 32768 3 pl2303,ftdi_sio,belkin_sa, Live 0xc0634000
isofs 37808 0 - Live 0xc0629000
vfat 12352 0 - Live 0xc05c9000
ntfs 293792 0 - Live 0xc0b09000
fat 56816 1 vfat, Live 0xc061a000
nls_iso8859_1 3904 0 - Live 0xc0080000
nls_cp437 5568 0 - Live 0xc05c0000
nls_base 7376 7 cifs,isofs,vfat,ntfs,fat,nls_iso8 859_1,nls_cp437, Live 0xc05b7000
usb_storage 39760 0 - Live 0xc05d0000
sata_svw 16656 0 - Live 0xc05ba000
libata 140576 1 sata_svw, Live 0xc05e2000
dvb_bcm7335 4622880 22 - Live 0xc063e000
dvb_core 106768 1 dvb_bcm7335, Live 0xc00bf000
fb 36512 5 dvb_bcm7335, Live 0xc0091000
procmk 2176 0 - Live 0xc0082000

[enrico001u]

totally agree about azbox never be as good as dreambox.

I sold my dm800 to buy an azbox and soon regreted it.
Then sold azbox and bought another dm800.

[icum]

the best hardware is the ReelBox Avantgarde II, but the software sucks.....

[Likvid]

totally agree about azbox never be as good as dreambox.

I sold my dm800 to buy an azbox and soon regreted it.
Then sold azbox and bought another dm800.


Hahaha...been there done that but with IPBOX instead. :D

[Lord^DS]

The website for this receiver is online : http://vuplus.com

[dubious]

The website for this receiver is online : http://vuplus.com

Can you answer some questions

How many teams are supporting this box ?

Is it true as stated above that the box only comes with one tuner ?

Are 2 tuners working ok ?

What's the boot time ?

Will the website above also carry team images ?

Do Dreambox plugins work without modification ?

cheers :)

[Lord^DS]

Can you answer some questions

How many teams are supporting this box ?

Is it true as stated above that the box only comes with one tuner ?

Are 2 tuners working ok ?

What's the boot time ?

Will the website above also carry team images ?

Do Dreambox plugins work without modification ?

cheers :)

Teams : at this moment already 2 versions by a team calls VTI and as I read there is already a beta PLI image. Now certain people that own the box seemed to be able to run the standard DM images with three fixes.

Tuners: the box comes with two tuners and they are working good only there is a bug in CCCam, so crypted channels can be a problem atm, non scrambled no problem at all.
There is also a box on it's way with one tuner.

Plugins: working

Boot time : same as the DM8000

Website: does Dreambox Multimedia give team builds? Don't think so, but on the vuplus-support forum you can find them for sure.

Hope this give you all answers you wanted :)

[eme]

this reciver sounds quite good. i would never buy a dreambox now as they still cant make a decent power supply and are good for frying eggs on, thats why people have to put there own fans in becuse dreams r&d is crap. if it was not then these very simple problems would have been sorted at the begining. as they should have lerned from the dm7000. i still have mine but i have to use a seperate power supply to run harddrive.

the azbox premuim is getting a lot better even though i feel robbed by the seconded tuner recording problems and a few other things. i was going to send it back under the sale of goods act but cant be bothered now as it is doing ok at mo.
it dont overheat, it does decode useing multicam and cccam and it does far more than a dm800 and is better buit. it even does as nearly as much as dm8000 and in some deptments does more.

do i rate hd recivers today. no. they all have problems, all u can do is toss a coin and buy the very latest all singing all danceing box possibly to be let down later. either by hardware like dream or software like azbox, which ever way you decide its up to u. u pay your money and takes your choice. thats life.:o11::respect-050:

[enrico001u]

When you say azbox does more than a dmm that is a matter of opinion.

appart from accomodate a second tuner and output 1080p what else does it do that dm800hd dont?

Infact I would say dm800 has loads more to offer at the moment.

IE:
diferent images
more cams
full epg for sly uk,sky italia,csat,canal nordic,sky germany and Digital+
hundreds of plugins
no network restrictions making it possible to play mkvs
open source code
many more skins
multiboot option
plus so many more.

You have a valid point and it is well known that azbox seems to have better hardware but that means nothing because the firmware is terrible and the source code will never be public so you have to use what they tell you to.

the problem with the dm800hd is they made the casing too small thus causing in to run at a high temp but at least thats a problem that the user can fix instead of waiting for a ccompany to do it!

Many users are happy with both receivers and they will definatly rate their own hd box as I really doubt they could go back to sd alone!

[xanadu]

Azbox, sorry, but it will never be as good as Dreambox.



I would say Azbox HD is already better than any Dreambox.

It's certainly better than anthing else out there at the moment for the price.

[jimrare]

I would say Azbox HD is already better than any Dreambox.

It's certainly better than anthing else out there at the moment for the price.How can a box which is on BETA firmware be better than any other box out there? How long has it been on beta? A year and something!!!!?

[enrico001u]

It is a better FTA reciever yes but thats about it!

As soon as cs is involved its terrible

[paul01609]

6 months will be dead with no support

[passete]

I would say Azbox HD is already better than any Dreambox.

It's certainly better than anthing else out there at the moment for the price.

Lol, Very Good Joke . :bowing-036: :respect-040: :respect-055:


:sifone:

[Friendly-Face]

Well i have one thing to say here, IF i was MOD/Admin here, then i would delite all non sence posting, all posting that HIGHJACK threads with nonsence DMM, Opensat and the likes of it.

Guys this is new Product, this needs to be investigated , when we think of DM Clones that soem got here, can this box here maybe i say just maybe be A CLONE. or a new BRAND that has the almost exact HW in it and can run Enigma as good as DM does.

i Know here is the thread starter that need to make a better Title nex time, as every box has it is own up and downs.


OH, by the way Azbox is beter the dm ANYDAY HAHAHHAHAHHA not a good joke

[eme]

nice to see that this new reciver has has installed a fan as standard. mybe dmm should look and learn. how long have they had problems with overheating and on how meney different models from the 7000 onwards, just hope they have a better power supply as well and a good tuner.

i for one dont like the blue rings on each side of reciver, i think it makes it look ugly. but it does from the photos look well made. would like to see a full review though.

oh by the way, some poeople should stop talking crap about azbox only lasting 6 months, and dm8000 is still beta is it not, i do know the dm7000 i have was one hell of a long time beta so whats the moaning for, the azbox is working well on beta at the mo thanks. yes still bugs to fix just like most of the dmm recivers out theire. what ever reciver you have, just enjoy.

[raul]

you can only dream of 3d party support like dm has :)

i've got dm7000 , dm800 and dm8000 , all of them fitted with internal hdd , no heating problems at all on any of them !

[Carp95]

Hear hear

Azbox working fine overhere no probs @all
This VU+ uses enigma2 that means ripp off all development from DMM you guys shouls prease Opensat for doing iton there own.

What if Dmm put something in E2 sources witch would rule out all other:

1 - motherboards
2 - mac adresses
3 - cardreaders
4 - CI slots
5 - etc etc

It can be done no problem

[eme]

then the s**t would hit the fan. :respect-039:

[Lord^DS]

Well i have one thing to say here, IF i was MOD/Admin here, then i would delite all non sence posting, all posting that HIGHJACK threads with nonsence DMM, Opensat and the likes of it.

Guys this is new Product, this needs to be investigated , when we think of DM Clones that soem got here, can this box here maybe i say just maybe be A CLONE. or a new BRAND that has the almost exact HW in it and can run Enigma as good as DM does.

i Know here is the thread starter that need to make a better Title nex time, as every box has it is own up and downs.


OH, by the way Azbox is beter the dm ANYDAY HAHAHHAHAHHA not a good joke

I don't know if you read everything but in my second post, I tried to correct it a bit, you have right about the title that isn't good at all.
I wanted to let everyone know here about this receiver and if you search on Google you will see that all German forums and Dutch forums are already very actif on it, only here there is nothing to see about it yet. About support, check the PLI site, the VU+ Duo is already on their site, so if a big team like that jumps on it then it can't be really bad I suppose.

[raul]

if it is open source and pli supports it , no doubt it will be a hit .

remember roland or was it ronald ( i guess this is the same crew ) images for my old dm7000 - great developers .

[pipino]

just grab a dreambox 8000 if you can i heard they will be banned for sell accross europe ,,starting in germany

[tr8.]

just grab a dreambox 8000 if you can i heard they will be banned for sell accross europe ,,starting in germany

If they do get banned the support will stop and move to another reciever, so wont be a good one to own.
the reality is i can see no way they will get stopped totally, but will have many issues to deal with since the latest court order. Best bet for them is to move from Germany to another country.
The DM8000 is a good box thats no doubt, its the price i have a issue with when you look at other box's prices.

[Likvid]

It's only DM100 that is banned, don't spread wrong information!

[pipino]

It's only DM100 that is banned, don't spread wrong information!

may be its the beggining ,ppl like Kudelski are dying to see dream-multimedia down..and they are going for it big time

[mrbleu500]

Surely by now there is enough good open source software around that could be adapted, and a new hardware spec created which would allow the numerous builders of linux receivers to build kit without any software at all...

That would be a true open-source project... ;)

Not as far fetched as it sounds. Take a broadcom or similar base platform, then build a killer rx on top?

[mrbleu500]

It's only DM100 that is banned, don't spread wrong information!

Wrong. Just a firmware release for the DM100 made by DMM has been barred from distribution by the German courts, not the sale of the boxes.

[Likvid]

may be its the beggining ,ppl like Kudelski are dying to see dream-multimedia down..and they are going for it big time

I beleive many people right now wants DMM to go under, to be honest they have too much domination on the market right now, all new linux boxes that tries to get a market share dies after 6 months with no software support.

[CXath1]

hi, does vu+ do receiver support hd skin? because i read it doesn't support hd skin just sd skin runs.

[eme]

would be nice to full see english review

[Likvid]

What is the actual difference hardware wise from DM8000?

The only difference i can see is that DM8K supports 4 tuners, otherwise it's the same exact hardware for half the price, am i right?

[sheild 10]

It has optical spdif.


Where do I plug in a DVB-T tuner ?

It's nowhere near an Azbox HD, let alone a DM8000.

what i heard or the azbox the problem it has with software / put it this way the azbox has more theards than any other reciver so dont bring that reciver into. now he was trying to help cant you see that but people just kept on fighting each other when this would not be the case if dm stop over priceing ,:respect-057::ack2:

[DARKMAN]

VU+ is a own company,but producer of this Box is Marusys.
MaxDigital are only Distributor,like ****** in germany.

The upper photo is from an early sample box,the official market
version have only one ram and shielded tuners.
The used chipset is a broadcom 7335.
More pics and infos ,you can find on the german "Vu-support" Forum.



Like a Katherin !

[selobaba]

This receiver is that HD version of DM 7025 dream multimedia were trying to produce but failed, and someone else succeded, and already price of DM 8000 have gone down in germany since inturduction of this box, early signs it is a well built DM 8000 rival @ half the price.....:respect-051:

[selobaba]

would be nice to full see english review

one of my friend in germany has got one and Ill get a good review from him than Ill share it with you all.

selo:respect-051:

[selobaba]

for whom interested!!! the box supports cccam on a both client/server conf. and picture quality is better than of that DM800HD, plus can use the same image's as DM 8000, and same emu and plugins. serial and telnet image update only @ the mo, but via usb very soon including barry allen to use different images, no hd skins only sd for now, pli already has stable image on e2 and stable, supports avi-mkv files no dts as yet. something to note this box is NOT a DM8000 clon but a serious contender I already ordered one from germany, should be with me hopefully next week.

selo:respect-055:
Zwischensumme: 449,00 €
Versandkosten : 16,00 €
Transaktionskostenpauschale : 12,00 €
Inklusive gesetzlicher Mehrwertsteuer: 76,16 €
Gesamtbetrag: 477,00 €

[enrico001u]

if it uses the same images as a dm8000 that means same drivers and software and also means its fooling the software into thinking its a dm8000 then I would call it a clone with just with less hardware capabilities ie: 2 tuners and a diferent case.

nothing wrong with clones better value for money!

[selobaba]

if it uses the same images as a dm8000 that means same drivers and software then I would call it a clone with just with less hardware capabilities ie: 2 tuners and a diferent case.

nothing wrong with clones better value for money!
CAN use DM8000 images, it has its own programmers and support...:cup-006:

[selobaba]

CAN use DM8000 images, it has its own programmers and support. and faster processor:respect-059::respect-059:

[enrico001u]

Sounds like a decent box hope it succeeds.
Not sure why the programmers would want it to use dm8000 images though as it will get branded as a clone.

[selobaba]

Sounds like a decent box hope it succeeds.
Not sure why the programmers would want it to use dm8000 images though as it will get branded as a clone.
open source??????:20:

[xanadu]

Marusys MS-850S looks same as this.


Just seems missing Esata connector.



http://www.marusys.com/Product_ms850s.html

http://www.marusys.com/image/Product_ms850s.jpg

[dubious]

CAN use DM8000 images...

Without modification ?

[enrico001u]

Thay would be better just making there own unique images and get there own following rather than jumping on dm8000 software banwagon

[selobaba]

Thay would be better just making there own unique images and get there own following rather than jumping on dm8000 software banwagon

I think you insist on not understanding, Ill try to say it one more time. some people used dm8000 image on it with some mod and worked due to a Broadcom Mips Processor , but it has its own image called vti which is uniqly written for this box and pli already written a beta image too.:respect-050:

[enrico001u]

thank for clarifying but you did not say that in your previous posts thats where the confusion was!!!


Its the details that count

[selobaba]

thank for clarifying but you did not say that in your previous posts thats where the confusion was!!!


Its the details that count
sorry:respect-048:

[enrico001u]

No probs mate could you get a hold of some screenshots of the vti image?
the only reasons I ask is im very interested in this box seen as it can handle cccam like a dreambox unlike most.
And Im after a new HD reciever

Thanks

[selobaba]

No probs mate could you get a hold of some screenshots of the vti image?
the only reasons I ask is im very interested in this box seen as it can handle cccam like a dreambox unlike most.
And Im after a new HD reciever

Thanks
No probs mate here is the youtube of vti image on this box (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKu4vl69bkI) I already ordered one from germany, cost including shipping £477.00

Subtotal: 449.00 € shipping charges: 16.00 € transaction costs lump sum: 12.00 € inclusive legal of
value-added tax: 76.16 € total: 477.00 €


selo:respect-051:

[enrico001u]

looks good im fairly impressed.
its kinda what I thought the azbox would look like with enigma 2 on it

certainly looks like value for money on comparison to others.

The only downside I see is no ability to add cable or terrestrial tuners but what the hey for £500 cheaper than the alternative seems a bargain.

I better start saving!

[Likvid]

Marusys MS-850S looks same as this.


Just seems missing Esata connector.



http://www.marusys.com/Product_ms850s.html

http://www.marusys.com/image/Product_ms850s.jpg

Have you noticed one thing on that famous German site that sells them that the Marusys cost 349 euro and the Vu+ Duo 449 euro :confused:

And if you look at the Marusys site it has 4 LNB inputs with looping facility.

[Lord^DS]

Here you can find a sheet that will show the differences between DM800 - VU+ Duo - DM8000. For the prices I took the cheapest VU+ Duo shop, so don't shoot me, they will be different by shops.

File (http://users.pandora.be/testbase/VU+/DM800-VUplus Duo-DM8000.xls)

[jimrare]

Interesting box, especially if more teams are working on it. Could you please tell us about the smargo cardreader "Yes works (not all cards (yet) )" and also about Cardreader reads "(almost) all (FreeX irdeto works not atm)". Does that mean that at this time no irdeto card is working with internal or external cardreader? Does this apply to other encryptions as well?

[A]

Looks good right now
I wait to hear more from the owners of the box

[Lord^DS]

Interesting box, especially if more teams are working on it. Could you please tell us about the smargo cardreader "Yes works (not all cards (yet) )" and also about Cardreader reads "(almost) all (FreeX irdeto works not atm)". Does that mean that at this time no irdeto card is working with internal or external cardreader? Does this apply to other encryptions as well?

For the cardreader, it means everything works but not FreeX.

Smargo comes because of the VTI image, CCCam does the job full but has still a bug for recording two encrypted channels.

[jimrare]

For the cardreader, it means everything works but not FreeX.Why is FreeX so special?

Anyway, thanks for your reply.

[Lord^DS]

Why is FreeX so special?

Anyway, thanks for your reply.

No idea about that, but it's seems not to work, so it's been reported :)

[jimrare]

I guess then we will have to wait what people report on the other cards.

[selobaba]

To whom interested --- this is not a clone, VU+ uses their own drivers and secondstage loaders and only the GPL based enigma2 - so they are not violating any DMM property.

Because VU+ also uses a Broadcom mipsel chip you are able to run most Dreambox binaries on it too. And Yes, with Barry Allen Multiboot Plugin you can even boot & run Dreambox images on it.

selo:respect-048:

[A]

so anyone here got it, I am thinking about this one seriously:respect-062:

[gbsatti]

Yeah, me too, i think i will buy this one , it seems very interesting, and cccam is running fine...

[quibath]

Hi

Not yet,reading quite a lot about it.

...and maybe ordering after taking few beers...:)

BR,Q

[gbsatti]

Hi quibath, what do you mean by "maybe ordering after taking few beers" ?

[quibath]

Hi quibath, what do you mean by "maybe ordering after taking few beers" ?

Hi,
Well.Its weekend.So can take few beers...:)

Only helping to make my decision.I have been thinking about this for a while but how to motive myself to tell about it to wife ..:respect-058:

I need a stiffener for that :)

BR,Q

[gbsatti]

ok, i see, stay here, im asking you something in pm ;)

[passete]

What a JOKE !

No one Wants Dreambox, But All want to Buy Dreambox Clones !

LOL

[gbsatti]

if you had read the whole topic, you had know that this is not a clone

this is a serious deal

[Lord^DS]

In the list a lately placed here I did set the lowest price of the VU+ Duo that I found. In meanwhile I had conact with this dealer and everyone here can get the prices noticed in the file (price raised in meanwhile), just mention Satpimps when you would order. :respect-048:

Again don't shoot me, I have nothing on this, I'm only the messenger :)

[mika]

if you had read the whole topic, you had know that this is not a clone

this is a serious deal

:iagree: khouya gbsati.....i hope we make the right choice :respect-048:

[selobaba]

Guys mine is in the ups network I should get it on monday, yes its a real deal, and a serious rival to the overpriced DM8000, I have lots of Turkish friends has got this box in germany, and they are extatic about it, if they are sayin its a real deal than it is. CEO of Dream Multimedia is a fellow Turk, so they know something..( YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN) the guys who build this BOX are a proper company, with lots of resarch behind it. Soon you will all want one I know.


selo:respect-048::respect-048:

[selobaba]

What a JOKE !

No one Wants Dreambox, But All want to Buy Dreambox Clones !

LOL
Can you read English????:beatdeadhorse5:

[selobaba]

I have quite few pictures of vu+duo with dm8000, comparison pictures side by side, front/rear but I can not upload them I guess because of my account limitation.

selo:07::07:

[goran]

Here a Picture from a real Stream to PC 6 !! in words SIX Streams are running to the same Time on VU+duo

...says Hans...:respect-048:

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=39676&d=1263606835

But if a tuner goes - the box has to go back for motherboard exchange or what?!?

[Subscribes... :D]

[selobaba]

@ goran,
But if a tuner goes - the box has to go back for motherboard exchange or what?!?

well I guess that applies to the most electronics we own???:respect-050:

[selobaba]

@ goran,

I know you want one:respect-048::respect-applause-00:respect-001:

[passete]

if you had read the whole topic, you had know that this is not a clone

this is a serious deal

Not A Clone ???

And Why Using all the Dreambox Stuff ??

Come On, Open your eyes.

[OldSkul]

guys there is one problem. No DVB subtitles support atm. Thats not good.

[jeffdmlover]

Jesus every forum i go on at the moment is really pushing this box.

[A]

guys there is one problem. No DVB subtitles support atm. Thats not good.
cant gsub or bullztext be as a plugin if it uses engima2

[Likvid]

@ goran,
But if a tuner goes - the box has to go back for motherboard exchange or what?!?

well I guess that applies to the most electronics we own???:respect-050:


That goes for DM8K as well, they want to save manufacturing costs.

By the way, the famous German site you bought your Vu+ from has raised the price on the better Marusys MS-850S from 329 to 549 euros, however i found a seller in Austria that sells it for 350 euros and have stock which i don't beleive as no one else got stock.

[Likvid]

Not A Clone ???

And Why Using all the Dreambox Stuff ??

Come On, Open your eyes.

It's not a clone, it's time Dreambox had some real competition to their low quality overpriced boxes.

Enigma2 is under GPL free for anyone to use...

[goran]

@ goran,

But if a tuner goes - the box has to go back for motherboard exchange or what?!?well I guess that applies to the most electronics we own???:respect-050:

Nope, in some you get the tuner out and put another one in...

Not exactly the same thing, sorry... This [in VU+] is bad!

Sadly... But I would like to hear from your friend...

You know, a full report, how it really functions...

Thanx!!! [Btw, you have the Public Upload...]

[Likvid]

@Goran

Buy it and do a review for us

[goran]

Too much money [I don't really have :(] to risk... Since his m8 already has it and he said he'll post it here...:coolgleamA:

Also, I would be a bit suspicious about into-the-motherboard-embedded tuners...:svengo:

[OldSkul]

Jesus every forum i go on at the moment is really pushing this box.

of course there is alot of writing about this box because it looks that it is quite interesting and good competition to expensive dm8000.

I will probably buy it too. And i really dont care about builtin tuners. It would be great about adding dvb-t though.

[eme]

But if a tuner goes - the box has to go back for motherboard exchange or what
just like a tv, a freeview reciver and 99% of the satallite market. whats the problem, they very rarly go ****:o11: up.

[goran]

The problem is that it is a problem, since it doesn't have to be like that!

Many others do not have this, ergo it could be better! Can it not?!?

[A]

you do have a 2 year warrantly and no Image will screw the tuner so ANY ELECTRONIC U BUY just see u have some sort of warranty and the seller will exchange it for you incase of problems.
And what works on DM 8000 does not necessarily work on this box.
BA is not really ok on this box what is +++ is that ccam works fine as server and client so I hear.

[mrbleu500]

You may get a 2 year warranty in Germany (standard there), but in the UK it is just 1 year AFAIK

[A]

The worst box for tuners has been the DM 500 I have 3 of them which are kaput
where this box will sell is the ccam and HD

[goran]

And you may have to order it from abroad... It all costs...

It all has certain considerations...

[jimrare]

It's not a clone, it's time Dreambox had some real competition to their low quality overpriced boxes.

Enigma2 is under GPL free for anyone to use...But as you can see, everyone is trying to get a piece from DMMs success. Why would someone try to copy a "low quality box"?

Don't get me wrong, i also think that this is an interesting box. And if it can do the same as the top hd box in the market, and the support is still there, then i'll certainly go for it.

[goran]

DMM stole loads of other people's work, from DBox onwards!

[A]

it happens all the time and will keep on, cs is big now and everyone wants to cash in on it

[Likvid]

But as you can see, everyone is trying to get a piece from DMMs success. Why would someone try to copy a "low quality box"?

.

It's the software that the others are after, not making a DM clone.

DMs only strength is software.

[jimrare]

DMM stole loads of other people's work, from DBox onwards!So you are not getting a vu+ because of this? (By the way its called open source, not stealing)


It's the software that the others are after, not making a DM clone.

DMs only strength is software.Does that mean you are also not getting a vu+? DM8000 has a better processor than vu+. Check out the specifications and you will see. It seems they are not selling software and support only.

[goran]

Jim, you really are a rare bird...:rolleyes:

[jimrare]

Jim, you really are a rare bird...:rolleyes:Whatever you say champ

[paul01609]

can now see a large slup in azbox sales Yeeeeessss

[jimrare]

can now see a large slup in azbox sales YeeeeessssThey shot theirselves in the foot more than a year ago. If the vu+ team can port a successfull piece of software such as E2, with cccam, plugins and the rest fully functioning (as they say, i haven't bought the vu+ yet), then i can't see a reason why other developers can't do the same....

[A]

its not fully functioning from what I read but they are on their way, what they have achieved is ccam but rest MAY follow soon but at half the price of DM 8000 even if it does 70% of what a DM 8000 can do it will be a good buy.
I think I will just buy it and then open my gob :D:D

[jimrare]

Only time will tell if they can get it right.

For me starting from a solid base is not enough. If they spend all their time porting dreambox plugins... then this is not good for the end user. They should develop their own stuff as well and why not bring some new ideas.

We have already seen other boxes trying to port dreambox plugins without success. This is where dreambox succeeded in the first place, they started from something solid, but their developers and the community have brought it even further with e2, cardsharing, all the available plugins...

[paul01609]

im happy with my 8000 but i would like to think this box will match it but time will tell,i would advice any one thinking of buying this new box to wait and see what the support is like.whish i had waited befor buying the azbox but you learn by your mistakes

[paul01609]

i see the price has droped little on the 8000 but they have put the price of the tuners up

[Friendly-Face]

im stupid and i need some help to know the truth here.
IS ENIGMA 1 OR 2 PROPERTY of DMM ??

if it is then they shall go to sue all those that try to copy their software,
the Problem is that Enimga is an OPEN SOURCE software, only few Drivers that DMM has developed are cloused, and not even the Imager makers have those sources, they all build Image in the drivers deliverd from DMM.

Now DMM cannot sue anyone here, as they stolle the code in the first place, and becouse some other makers come and delivers a cheaper box with Enigma2 does not mean that it is a Copy.

Have you guys send an mail to the Korean manifacturer and ask them for DM image , will they give you support on it, NO NO they build their own image/software, but becouse a smart guy found a way to have DMM software on the box that is not the manifacturers foult, is it ??

anyone can make a box based on Enigma2 or 1 or Neutrino and Neutrino HD, this is becouse the source to the software is open. if you got the money to invest then do it the software is there and is free :-)

As i have read here and heard from others not here, is that the box has acctualy a good support from PLI Team, and many will follow their fotsteps.
if others will support it or not that is up to the community that buys this box, the more ppl have the box the more ppl will work to make it a good box.

i think and belive this will be an OK box, it is early days yet to make an desition what to do or what not to do, but if it runs most of the open source software out there, then i cannot see it to not make a succeess

i for one have orderd one :-) must have one even that does not look to fancy but then there is always possible to buy some beter case and build it over :-)

[passete]

This is All About The Same !

Getting a Ferrari For The Price of a Fiat !

Just A JOKE Guys .

Lol

[A]

This is All About The Same !

Getting a Ferrari For The Price of a Fiat !

Just A JOKE Guys .

Lol
lol:congratulations-008:biggrinjester:

[Keano]

Think I might get one of these Marusys VU+ receivers.

Guy I know on another site says they are OK and CCcam works on it which I expected it too because of its processor.

Downside for me is soldered tuners to the board and have also been told no DTS supports which for me is needed with mkv downloads.

Also been inform that the Pli team are committed to this new receiver and will release images for it.

We might also see a drop in price for the DM8000 now because like A said if it can do 70% of the DM8000 then who is going to buy a DM8000.

[Lord^DS]

That goes for DM8K as well, they want to save manufacturing costs.

By the way, the famous German site you bought your Vu+ from has raised the price on the better Marusys MS-850S from 329 to 549 euros, however i found a seller in Austria that sells it for 350 euros and have stock which i don't beleive as no one else got stock.

The MS-850S is not the VU+ Duo, the VU+ Duo is in fact the MS-750S.
You can buy it in Belgium at @ € 415 with the notice "Sarpimps" :)
no links read the RULES

[Likvid]

Why no links when the shop is sponsoring Satpimps?

[goran]

It's a legit question...

[selobaba]

Ok guys got the box this morning, being to work all day, just installed the vti E2 image, and first impression is WOW,WOW,WOW. its fantastic the hd picture quality supresses azbox by miles, though I also like azbox for other things, there is no comparison to axbox this is the real thing, cccam on hd channels not one freeze, PERFECT, enough plugins to entartain any serious enthusiast, more will fallow as I go along, will be fitting the hdd later tonight, my azbox looks misrable at the moment, OPENSAT open your eyes:party::party:

[Lord^DS]

So you are not getting a vu+ because of this? (By the way its called open source, not stealing)

Does that mean you are also not getting a vu+? DM8000 has a better processor than vu+. Check out the specifications and you will see. It seems they are not selling software and support only.

It's a bit different if you look good.
The VU+ Duo cpu runs at 400mhz and the one that DMM is using runs at 350Mhz (slower).
The DMM version is a all in one chip that's the big difference.
Still is the VU+ cpu faster :)

root@bm750:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
system type : BCM97xxx Settop Platform
build target : 7335b0-smp
processor : 0
cpu model : BMIPS4380 V4.4 FPU V0.1
cpu MHz : 402.43
BogoMIPS : 402.43 ( udelay_val : 201216 HZ = 1000 )
wait instruction : yes
microsecond timers : yes
tlb_entries : 32
extra interrupt vector : yes
hardware watchpoint : no
ASEs implemented : mips16
VCED exceptions : not available
VCEI exceptions : not available
RAC setting : I/D-RAC enabled
unaligned access : 75967
rdhwr/brdhwr traps : 18191604 / 0
process migrations : 673
processor : 1
cpu model : BMIPS4380 V4.4 FPU V0.1
cpu MHz : 404.48
BogoMIPS : 404.48 ( udelay_val : 202240 HZ = 1000 )
wait instruction : yes
microsecond timers : yes
tlb_entries : 32
extra interrupt vector : yes
hardware watchpoint : no
ASEs implemented : mips16
VCED exceptions : not available
VCEI exceptions : not available
RAC setting : I/D-RAC enabled
root@bm750:~#

[CROSSBONES]

The more I read about this box the more I want one!

DB images will not work directly in flash, but Barry Allan does!

But if the price of the 8000 comes down a bit more then its no contest:respect-058:

[selobaba]

This is All About The Same !

Getting a Ferrari For The Price of a Fiat !

Just A JOKE Guys .


Lol

mate your in denial, dm is no longer market dominator, this box is a hit in western europe!!!:smash:

[goran]

They [DMM] are, sadly, still dominating our market - they have the best support by far. All others must learn from DMM in this department!!!

This is why they can overcharge for the boxes, even though they may not be best, HW-wise. Everybody knows why they are paying too much...

If they can't - some buy clones and... well, risk....

However, I would never buy a DMM! More and more people buy other Linux-based recs for a reason. And they are getting better and better. HW- and SW-wise!

Which is why this is a welcome development. With all the limitations... ;)

More info, selo, please... :)

[Friendly-Face]

Pli is allready making images for this box, that alone is a bonus to me :-)
have been using pli all my years i have used DM boxes, so i belive more teams will follow them.

im happy to say that 2 of the PLI team members have confirmed this to me that they make and support this new box :-)

i do not know maybe this is all hype, maybe it is not a good box, but buy the look of it and by the noise is making all over Europe then it means that is scaring some DMM lovers , even on Gemini site this box is mentioned since November

maybe this is another fiasko like Azbox , not that it did not deliver what they say, but becouse the company that is bihind this is just a crap company and they as as slower as a turtulle,

one thing we need to know is all those members that have this box can they make few photos of the menu, the box is self, the pbc , and so on so we that have the money can see and maybe buy one

[selobaba]

They [DMM] are, sadly, still dominating our market - they have the best support by far. All others must learn from DMM in this department!!!

This is why they can overcharge for the boxes, even though they may not be best, HW-wise. Everybody knows why they are paying too much...

If they can't - some buy clones and... well, risk....

However, I would never buy a DMM! More and more people buy other Linux-based recs for a reason. And they are getting better and better. HW- and SW-wise!

Which is why this is a welcome development. With all the limitations... ;)

More info, selo, please... :)
Anything for you goran, Iam trying to work out this box at the moment, but so far £402.00 imported from germany well spent, its like dm8000 but in a different case very odd.,. soryy to azbox owners including myself, what a waste of £329.00 that I paid

[selobaba]

Pli is allready making images for this box, that alone is a bonus to me :-)
have been using pli all my years i have used DM boxes, so i belive more teams will follow them.

im happy to say that 2 of the PLI team members have confirmed this to me that they make and support this new box :-)

i do not know maybe this is all hype, maybe it is not a good box, but buy the look of it and by the noise is making all over Europe then it means that is scaring some DMM lovers , even on Gemini site this box is mentioned since November

maybe this is another fiasko like Azbox , not that it did not deliver what they say, but becouse the company that is bihind this is just a crap company and they as as slower as a turtulle,

one thing we need to know is all those members that have this box can they make few photos of the menu, the box is self, the pbc , and so on so we that have the money can see and maybe buy one
The company that built this box is as strong as the house your livin in, I am regularly intouch with the german forums, its terrifing the dm and the dm800 clone producers.. give me some time Ill post some pics for you guys, btw the hd skins are out of this worl and there are so many of them.. :respect-059:

[goran]

OK but is this a clone of this other box, then?

Remember what a few people claimed here: "It is!" "No, it isn't!"?


The MS-850S is not the VU+ Duo, the VU+ Duo is in fact the MS-750S.PLi work for which company, then?

It seems a bit confused... Well, I am! :D

[selobaba]

OK but is this a clone of this other box, then?

Remember what a few people claimed here: "It is!" "No, it isn't!"?

PLi work for which company, then?

It seems a bit confused... Well, I am! :D
NO certainly is not a clone sir, it is bloody marvelous machine, I am lovin it, forget about marusys 850.750 ( vu+duo is the beast) :respect-050::respect-059::respect-013:

[goran]

I am just trying to see who is the manufacturer and who designed it, which company, that's all... In relation to this:


VU+ is a own company,but producer of this Box is Marusys.
MaxDigital are only Distributor,like ****** in germany. :respect-051:

[selobaba]

I am just trying to see who is the manufacturer and who designed it, which company, that's all... In relation to this:

:respect-051:

Perfectly correct:bravo-009:

[Lord^DS]

some screenshots:

http://www.sat4all.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/64770/filename/IMG_5966%20tt.jpg


http://www.sat4all.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/64771/filename/IMG_5970%20t.jpg


http://www.sat4all.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/64772/filename/IMG_5971%20t.jpg


http://www.sat4all.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/64773/filename/IMG_5968%20t.jpg

[selobaba]

some screenshots:

http://www.sat4all.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/64770/filename/IMG_5966%20tt.jpg


http://www.sat4all.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/64771/filename/IMG_5970%20t.jpg


http://www.sat4all.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/64772/filename/IMG_5971%20t.jpg


http://www.sat4all.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/64773/filename/IMG_5968%20t.jpg

this is 750-s original skin, which is ugly update to hd skins and the difference will be awsome.

selo:respect-013::respect-013:

[goran]

OK, a few additional Q's...

So, is this a Dutch or German company [VuPlus, the designers]?

Marusys are Germans or Koreans or both somehow...? I presume it's produced in Korea, not China, so decent quality HW?

PLi are also primarily a Duch team or? I never used DMM, so I wouldn't know... It would be good to know,for some of us, who we are relying on - I understand they are now veterans of Sat Scene...?

Also, 1080i only - how come? Today that seems a bit "off", from the start, sorry...

I see an image with Mbox included... OK... ;)

[DARKMAN]

The worst box for tuners has been the DM 500 I have 3 of them which are kaput
where this box will sell is the ccam and HD

They have understud now ....

The have change Manifature in China with DM 600 and DM 800...for just a concindence they are produsing now ..in same manifature where i produse the Eagle box.The only think they relese to the Chinese manifature is the chip and Mac adress...

All mother board and tuner and RCU and others are done from eagle box manifature.I dont know who is the coppy now !?

[selobaba]

OK, a few additional Q's...

So, is this a Dutch or German company [VuPlus, the designers]?

Marusys are Germans or Koreans or both somehow...? I presume it's produced in Korea, not China, so decent quality HW?

PLi are also primarily a Duch team or? I never used DMM, so I wouldn't know... It would be good to know,for some of us, who we are relying on - I understand they are now veterans of Sat Scene...?

Also, 1080i only - how come? Today that seems a bit "off", from the start, sorry...

I see an image with Mbox included... OK... ;)
@goran

Ok one by one--- Marusys are korean company with a few design/innovation prizes, they have website if you google , vu+ is the designers and the marketing like DMM, PLI I dont know but I can get info from germany, why 1080i? actually there is no provider broadcasts in 1080p @ the moment we are years away from that yet... 1080p is really is a gimmick on sat receivers, it only applies to the blu ray sciene, image with mbox I dont know, since cccam is so popular I doubt it..


selo:respect-010:

[selobaba]

FItted the samsung eco green 1TB a/v hdd and recognised and initilased very quickly, recording @ the moment from hd channel, brilliant PVR software very seamless and quick..


selo :number-one-043:

[goran]

Well, don't we all "google"... :D

Vu+ are Dutch?

Marusys contacts are in Germany and Korea but...

1080p is the "future proof" thingy... as they are already planning HD+...

Besides, shouldn't this box be capable of streaming, also, in which case upscaling should be there, really...?

Google the website and see the image with Mbox in it... ;) :D

[OldSkul]

hey selobaba, give us some more more info. :D

[jimrare]

It's a bit different if you look good.
The VU+ Duo cpu runs at 400mhz and the one that DMM is using runs at 350Mhz (slower).
The DMM version is a all in one chip that's the big difference.
Still is the VU+ cpu faster :)
According to your previous post (https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showpost.php?p=688771&postcount=77) both cpus run at the same speed. However i'm a datasheets guy and from the datasheets you can read that the 7335 'yields over 950 DMIPS in performance' while the 7400 does '1000 DMIPS', wich makes it slighter faster. If the manufacturer says that the 7400 performs faster then i have to believe them. Also the extra features (3D engine, dual AVC decoders instead of single and the rest) make it a better processor. The only better feature i can see from 7335s side is Xvid on chip support.

To be honest these slight differences aren't that significant compared to the price difference, i was only trying to point that DMM aren't bad hardware-wise. (unless anybody thinks that Broadcom are selling cheap hardware)

[jeffdmlover]

More pictures please?

[Likvid]

@goran

, why 1080i? actually there is no provider broadcasts in 1080p @ the moment we are years away from that yet... 1080p is really is a gimmick on sat receivers, it only applies to the blu ray sciene, image with mbox I dont know, since cccam is so popular I doubt it..


selo:respect-010:

1080p is a ballbreaker for me anyway as i need 1080p output as i am going to use it as a mediaplayer for my x.264 bluray movies on MKV.

That's sad really...

[passete]

NO certainly is not a clone sir, it is bloody marvelous machine, I am lovin it, forget about marusys 850.750 ( vu+duo is the beast) :respect-050::respect-059::respect-013:

No Isn't a CLone, But just using Dmm Stuff !

LOl, So original this box.

:bowing-036:

[A]

Engima 2 is owned by DMM ? :driving:
I did not know that

[Lord^DS]

No Isn't a CLone, But just using Dmm Stuff !

LOl, So original this box.

:bowing-036:

I begin to believe you really can't read, Enigma2 = open source !

[Likvid]

and how is the tuner on weak channels, done any comparison? this is very important as well.

[tinos]

According to your previous post (https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showpost.php?p=688771&postcount=77) both cpus run at the same speed. However i'm a datasheets guy and from the datasheets you can read that the 7335 'yields over 950 DMIPS in performance' while the 7400 does '1000 DMIPS', wich makes it slighter faster. If the manufacturer says that the 7400 performs faster then i have to believe them. Also the extra features (3D engine, dual AVC decoders instead of single and the rest) make it a better processor. The only better feature i can see from 7335s side is Xvid on chip support.

To be honest these slight differences aren't that significant compared to the price difference, i was only trying to point that DMM aren't bad hardware-wise. (unless anybody thinks that Broadcom are selling cheap hardware)

You are checking wrong info here... 7400 is not the chip on DM8K...

I think this is correct info:

DM8000 7405 400Mhz 1100DMIPS fpu divx HDMI 1.3 DDR2 RAM
VU+ 7335 450Mhz 950DMIPS fpu divx HDMI 1.3 DDR2 RAM (includes 2 silicon tuners)
DM800 7401 300Mhz 450DMIPS no fpu no divx HDMI 1.1 DDR RAM

So seems VU+ is just a little slower but compatible chip that includes silicon tuners inside already. It looks like a good option. Maybe DM500HD also comes with new 7335? And cheaper than VU+?

[Likvid]

To be honest the DM8000 got a much more advanced Broadcom chip, it has alot of video processing features which Vu+ doesn't have.

Just look at the difference, they are huge in my opinion if you start reading, the Broadcom chipset doesn't even support 1080p in Vu+Duo, in the Dm8000 it does.

So still the DM8000 is the king if you want to use if as an allround box.

I mean most TVs sold today are Full HD, 1920x1080p, the box doesn't even support 1080i due to the cheaper chipset used.

Why in hell did they not opt for the same chipset as DM8000? that much more expensive it couldn't have been eh?

[goran]

Hmmm, Reelbox Avantgarde II is much stronger than anything we saw - it's a proper PC!


http://www.reel-multimedia.com/en/images/shopimage_avantarde.jpg

ReelBox Avantgarde II
Media-Center for a perfect HDTV-Experience



320 GB SATA Western Digital Hard Disk
DVD-DoubleLayer-Burner, slimline
max. 6x DVB-S2 (HDTV) or 3x DVB-C or 3x DVB-T
Remote incl. Batteries
Manual, Power Cord, HDMI Cable 2m


ReelBox Avantgarde II
» Quality Design Casing
» Graphic compatible LC-Display 128 x 64 pixel, white
» 320 GB SATA Western Digital Hard Disk
» DVD-Multiburner (Dual Layer), Slot-In/Slimline
» CPU: AMD Mobile Sempron® 3700+ 2,00 GHz
» DSP: Micronas DeCypher Multi-Format Decoder
» 512 MB DDR2-667 (PC2-5300) Main Memory
» NetCeiver-Technology: three Tuner-Slots
» Two Common Interface-Slots for PayTV-Modules
» 2x DVB-S2-Single-Tuners or 2x DVB-C-Single-Tuners for HDTV
» 1x additional Tuner-Slot for Reel DVB-Tuners
» IR Remote Control, including TV Database
» Power Cord (DE), Manual, WLAN-Preparation
» Quality HDMI-Cable, YUV-Breakout-Cable / Mini-DIN-Interface

[jimrare]

I think this is correct info:The DM500HD (https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showpost.php?p=650858&postcount=2) uses the BCM7405 which performs 1000DMIPS.

[Friendly-Face]

a Clone box is when you take the same HW and just make an outside case diferent, but all the HW is the same. then the box is a Clone

when a new company komes to the marked with a new disigned product and with their own software and drivers then this box is NOT A CLONE

but becouse you and me as a low level users with just a bit more experince make the box run on other software or use other boxes pluggins does not mean or make the new comer a Clone box.

and get it into you,r brain, Enigma is not a Property of DMM, and the Plugins addons that are publicaly posted from the authors or right holders and are made for the public to use them as they please are NOT DMM PROPERTY.


now back to the box,
this box is from the Koreans, made and prodused from them, with the German Distributor on the back. seems this box is a big hit on the Dutch and German marked in the time being.

Sorry to have misslead some one here, PLI TEAM do not make the box they do not work for any company, but all i was told from 2 of the image makers is that they will souuport this box as much as they support DMM boxes. for me this is a good thing.

then if we can use Barry Alien or any other third part software then this is good for us end users. but aparantly not for those that make bussiness with DMM, they try to fight with all they can , make so many negative posting on the forums so DMM can sell their overpriced boxes.

i for one will like to thank one of the members er here and the Pli Team mebers for their support, now i have orderd this box and in 3 weeks i will have it with me here.


No Isn't a CLone, But just using Dmm Stuff !

LOl, So original this box.

:bowing-036:

[jimrare]

I wonder how the vu+ performs watching 2 HD channels at the same time. Can anyone report?

DMM has chosen a comparable processor with the vu+ for their 500HD, but for only one tuner. Overkill maybe?

[Likvid]

and DM500HD will be 299 euros but probably not close comparable to Vu+ Duo in component quality.

[Keano]

OK just ordered mine, should be here by end of the week.

I have heard enough on here and other forums that this receiver is good and certainly beats paying £900 for a DM8000.

[goran]

Thanx to VuPlus from Sat-Plus! :D

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/gogach/Sat%20TV/s73r1857.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/gogach/Sat%20TV/s73r1860.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/gogach/Sat%20TV/s73r1861.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/gogach/Sat%20TV/s73r1861.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/gogach/Sat%20TV/s73r1861.jpg

[OldSkul]

i ordered one too. Cant wait :)

[A]

i ordered one too. Cant wait :)

:congratulations-008

^)0(^N@BILO^)0(^

i have seen and test this stb today have PLI beta image looking and working good
full ENINGMA2 SUPPORT this hd pvr twin tunner stb have good hardware
have almost all future as DM 8000 and price is less than 50 % of dm 8000

[selobaba]

i ordered one too. Cant wait :)
Good choice my friend you be amazed, ignore some people that bash this box already, they are just jelous, cos some of them paid £1000.00 for dm8000 and now there is a similar box for £400+, it must be hard....


btw recording one channel and watchin another perfect on hd/sd, wathcing 2 hd channels at the same time perfect, recording cccam opened hd channels perfect, cooling fan very quite, hd picture qality best so far, nicest rcu around like nintendo wii style...


selo:respect-067:

[selobaba]

a Clone box is when you take the same HW and just make an outside case diferent, but all the HW is the same. then the box is a Clone

when a new company komes to the marked with a new disigned product and with their own software and drivers then this box is NOT A CLONE

but becouse you and me as a low level users with just a bit more experince make the box run on other software or use other boxes pluggins does not mean or make the new comer a Clone box.

and get it into you,r brain, Enigma is not a Property of DMM, and the Plugins addons that are publicaly posted from the authors or right holders and are made for the public to use them as they please are NOT DMM PROPERTY.



now back to the box,
this box is from the Koreans, made and prodused from them, with the German Distributor on the back. seems this box is a big hit on the Dutch and German marked in the time being.

Sorry to have misslead some one here, PLI TEAM do not make the box they do not work for any company, but all i was told from 2 of the image makers is that they will souuport this box as much as they support DMM boxes. for me this is a good thing.

then if we can use Barry Alien or any other third part software then this is good for us end users. but aparantly not for those that make bussiness with DMM, they try to fight with all they can , make so many negative posting on the forums so DMM can sell their overpriced boxes.

i for one will like to thank one of the members er here and the Pli Team mebers for their support, now i have orderd this box and in 3 weeks i will have it with me here.

why 3 weeks I got it from germany in 3 days for £402.00..


selo:respect-062:

[xanadu]

:congratulations-008
and price is less than 50 % of dm 8000

It does 50% less than a DM8000 though. :rolleyes:

No swappable tuners is the main drawback. :smash:

Azbox HD is superior for the price.

[A]

I dont care about that. I need a 2nd HD box with ccam, got a DM 800 so.........
this is good news I will get one in 10 days :respect-010:

[selobaba]

Never mind dm8000 killer ( contender actually ) I think this box killed our much loved azbox ( R I P :ack2:)


selo :respect-064::bow-004:

[selobaba]

It does 50% less than a DM8000 though. :rolleyes:

No swappable tuners is the main drawback. :smash:

Azbox HD is superior for the price.


Swappale tuners? who cares about that-why be keep messing with the tuners all the time, that will damage the box!!!! I want twin hd tuners, and box that support cccam, that is what most of us want dont we??

selo :sifone::sifone:

[A]

new updated image out daily by PLI
h-t-t-p://www.pli-images.org/modules/file_downloads/file_downloads.php?fd_id=1&dir=/vuduo

[mika]

:congratulations-008 it´s time to open a new section for VU+Duo HD receiver in satdudez forum :respect-067:

[OldSkul]

It does 50% less than a DM8000 though. :rolleyes:

No swappable tuners is the main drawback. :smash:

Azbox HD is superior for the price.

yeah sure superior. I had azbox and sold it. It wants to be everything but it fails in both sections. As media player and as sat receiver.

We really new section!

[A]

YES yes will come A NEW SECTION

[goran]

Never mind dm8000 killer ( contender actually ) I think this box killed our much loved azbox ( R I P :ack2:)


selo :respect-064::bow-004:

Well, it might be the case but only time will tell...

I agree with Xanadu, up to point, as both have stronger and weaker sides...

Twin tuner v. 1080p etc. etc.

We await further developments...:respect-054:

[goran]

A few more... Thanx to VuPlus from Sat-Plus forum :D

http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/VuPlus/s73r1865.jpg
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/VuPlus/s73r1849.jpg
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/VuPlus/s73r1851.jpg
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/VuPlus/s73r1853.jpg
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy182/VuPlus/s73r1856.jpg

[xanadu]

Never mind dm8000 killer ( contender actually ) I think this box killed our much loved azbox ( R I P :ack2:)


selo :respect-064::bow-004:

This box hasn't killed anything yet.

I remember how everyone was saying same things before Azbox HD was released and in early stages of release.

The only people saying how great this box is are DEALERS and others who crawl to get FREE beta tester box.

Seen it all before. :rant:

[Lord^DS]

This box hasn't killed anything yet.

I remember how everyone was saying same things before Azbox HD was released and in early stages of release.

The only people saying how great this box is are DEALERS and others who crawl to get FREE beta tester box.

Seen it all before. :rant:

Except almost everything works on this box, can't be said from AZbox and others.
It's giving a real alternative to DMM at a good price.

[jimrare]

It's nowhere near an Azbox HD

I would say Azbox HD is already better than any Dreambox.





Azbox HD is superior for the price.



I remember how everyone was saying same things before Azbox HD was released and in early stages of release.

The only people saying how great this box is are DEALERS and others who crawl to get FREE beta tester box.

Seen it all before. :rant:

:respect-040:

[goran]

I disagree, Xanadu. (And I can't help noticing some very bad vibes from you, too...)

I got one from OS for "free". They were advertising, they wanted beta-testers. So, since this is my hobby and since it doesn't cost me anything to send an email, plus I thought I could:

a) help [I paid for that box many times over with my support!!!]
b) do with a distraction [I relocated to a new country]
c) have some fun [not much happening here]
d) get a decent box [my DBox2 was getting.... well, old...]

...if only...

And Opensat seemed confident, professional, they seemed bullish [for a while - then it became reactive, sadly!] about what they are trying to achieve. I like that! So, naturally, I was excited by the prospects of a real contender, which is how they came across.

Initially OS were responsive [I would just say to a person "X is not working properly on Y, as the picture is flickering" and...], things were happening! Like DiSEqC 1.1 [which I noticed as a problem, with many types of switches/relays/etc. not being supported and so I pushed -> we got the best possible version we could have] etc. That was exciting and I was very hopeful at the time, what with all this passion and constant, regular improvements and good vibes...

Yes, more than anything, the good vibes spreading throughout the community, re. this little marvel, really good piece of HW, everybody keep saying... Plus, we didn't know we were lied to! All of us! From Celrun/Opensat, who were lied to by Sigma as to what their chipset can do [twin tuner etc.] onwards.

Then, their "distributor" got in with some really nasty vibe overall and many a lamentable action on his part... People were banned on forums for asking "awkward questions" or God forbid "criticising" etc. etc.

Dunno, have you noticed that? We only ever hear from you how great AZbox HD is but not really "the flip side of the coin".

Now, have you been given a box as a beta tester? I remember a certain person telling me how they wanted you on board...

But you know, even though I got one - I never stopped telling them exactly what I find. The truth! No BS, just the truth! That is how things get moving and happening! But then attacks started. It was just me, I was told, as "everything was perfect with AZbox HD!" And all manner of lies, insinuations and mean, ugly behaviour started!

Then, the cracks started showing, as HW was not that great, as we initially hoped for[a HW modification was necessary for some CI CAMs, for instance, not to mention the twin tuner "issue"], development stalled, some drivers were a joke [streaming, LAN, WLAN etc.], enthusiast's community of developers were not supported properly etc. etc.

And you know, I am failry certain that in all this I kept my spine intact....

Why am I saying this? Well, it seems to me you have a blinkered approach to AZbox HD. Dunno why...

I really hope this new Korean company learns from OpenSat's mistakes and doesn't do the same nonsense all over again! We, the sat TV enthusiasts and hobbyists, need a really good contender [or three!], to move things along here! Do we not?!? ;)

Let the best company win! And Gawd help us so DMM isn't that company!:smash::sifone:

[Gone_Fishing]

I'm pretty interested in this box but I don't really want to be trawling through loads of stuff about AZbox HD every time I check in here for new posts about VU+ Duo can we try and stay on topic


TNT

[Likvid]

@goran

Are you the Russian dude "gorski" on the other forum? you write good english for being Russian.

Anyway, that dutch shop someone recommended, are they sponsoring this forum as using the promo code satpimps get you the box for only 419 euros which seems pretty good.

The yankees over the pond seems to be crazy in Azbox, however they made a mistake doing an external PSU on the Premium+, it seems a bit cheap when they do that and not integrate a proper PSU.

Who doesn't say the history repeats with Vu+Duo again? PLi Team supports the box right now which is excellent but what happens when the Dark force from DMM take a visit and asks the PLi developer about stop supporting Vu+Duo by paying them money as DMM always do to stop competitors?

[goran]

The very same. But not Russian.

Thanx for the compliment, I think. :D
[Why would any nation be "better" or "worse" speaking English?:smash:]

Better to have the PSU outside.

Back to the issues of the thread: any news re. Vu+ Duo?

[Likvid]

@goran

Did you order a Vu+Duo today or what did you decide to do?

[A]

this forum has just one sponsor GOLDWAFERS
http://www.goldwafers.co.uk

[pipino]

I really hope this new Korean company learns from ....

this company is not new !!!they are the first ones who introduce a LINUX based HD STB in the market ...witch is called "Kathrien UFS910"

[paul01609]

Sounds like a good box but I'm not burning my fingers again

[Likvid]

this forum has just one sponsor GOLDWAFERS
http://www.goldwafers.co.uk

Pretty funny then that the dutch shop got the promo code satpimps to get the Vu+Duo cheaper.

Who is it here? :D

[goran]

this company is not new !!!they are the first ones who introduce a LINUX based HD STB in the market ...witch is called "Kathrien UFS910"

That makes a few of them... I remember Relook with the same claim...:rolleyes:

Likvid: sadly, I have no money to waste.:svengo: As I said, I will watch with interest!:coolgleamA:

[pipino]

its not a claim m8 its a fact!!...marusys made Kathrein UFS910

[goran]

Relook also claimed the same thing, you see...

[Likvid]

He's right, Marusus made UFS910 and released the first Linux HD box.

[Likvid]

Relook also claimed the same thing, you see...

Not HD box, they released their long after Kahtrein/Marusys did.

[goran]

Sorry, my bad, it was Relook, now DG Station, who were:


...the world’s first developer of LINUX base with Twin Tuner PVR for digital satellite,cable, terrestrial broadcasting, we will consolidate our technologies to create various digital convergence products as experiences of digital STB development.
http://www.dgstation.co.kr/relook_510_series.pdf#search=%27r elook%20510%20s%27


relook 510 Series
Personal Video Recorder with Linux and Built in MPEG 4 HD and MPEG 2 HD
Capable to two room service with DGS’ Client
Satellite/Terrestrial/Satellite+Terrestrial/Cable
Twin Tuner PVR + Ethernet + Linux OS + Client
DGStation is now developing this highly advanced product for the future trend of digital market. The product can support not only basic function of PVR but also Internet Protocol based interactive broadcasting service including NVOD and VOD services, Home shopping, Home banking, email etc. 2 different channels at 2 room at the same time can be viewed by different users. We are focusing on both open and closed market in Europe, Middle East, and North America.

Not much came in that respect, did it?

[Likvid]

The 510 never got released, just a prototype.

The first HD box released from DGS was Cuberevo aka IPBOX 9000HD.

Relook is not the manufacturer but the model name, it's still DGS.

[quibath]

Hi

I try to turn this back more to topic and asking about Vu+solo (one tuner)

Already in market?

BR,Q

[A]

no not as yet

[goran]

I know Likvid, I know. But it was interesting to see HD in there, non? ;)

Anyway, Vu+ Duo is still not on the market? Which market are we talking about? We heard it is on the market, some people have it etc.

[A]

there is the VU+ DUO RELEASED WITH 2 TUNERS OTHER IS COMING WITH SINGLE TUNER called solo

[Lord^DS]

Cristall HD skin for Vu+ Duo (screenshots)

http://www.vuplus-support.com/bilder/1screenshot.jpg

http://www.vuplus-support.com/bilder/screenshot.jpg

http://www.vuplus-support.com/bilder/2screenshot.jpg

http://www.vuplus-support.com/bilder/3screenshot.jpg

[Likvid]

Nice nice...

[pipino]

defo.. i would get the solo version when is out ,i have a dead Kathrein here and i would love to replace it for the solo version...it was the best HD decoder i had..the picture quality was superb ..in SD and HD...any more infos about the solo version??

[blade]

did a google...

Item no. VU+ Solo
Product available: 15.02.2010
Price on application

[pipino]

cheers m8

[crabber]

If the same company making this box made the Kathrein UFS910 then I just hope there will be official support for it.
I have a Kathrein and an 8000 and the Kathrein with official image (not E2) gives a better HD picture. However official support for Kathrein is non-existent.
I would have thought that any manufacturer doing their homework would know exactly what all of us enthusiasts want so why haven't they produced it yet?
In spite of being a DMM owner I really do hope this box does what we need at a reasonable price.

[CROSSBONES]

I just hope the VU gets DMM scared and they reduce there price :king-041:

[mushroom]

hi
here is the box i build which kills every satellite receiver out ther.imagine it with linux,twin dvb-s2 tuner,1 dvbc and one dvbt.also with all the goodies iptv,boxee,xbmc :bowing-036:

http://www.luxa2.com/products/enclosure/lm100-mini/gallery/01.jpg

[mrbleu500]

...and all for less than the cost of a DM8000?

[passete]

This is Just Joke, it's only a new HTPC case from Thermaltake.

[mushroom]

no m8 its not a joke. yes the image is of the case but inside i will build something very strong.i will send my working system screenshots as i am ready
and yes my friend all of that at less than a dm8000 price

[dubious]

Good for you but you're taking this thread off topic again :smash:

[passete]

no m8 its not a joke. yes the image is of the case but inside i will build something very strong.i will send my working system screenshots as i am ready
and yes my friend all of that at less than a dm8000 price

As We Say in French "Bon Courage" !

[OldSkul]

where is new section?
Soon there will be many new users of this box. We need new section!

[mushroom]

Good for you but you're taking this thread off topic again
sorry if i was a little off topic ,just wanted to say my opinion about a killer box :)



As We Say in French "Bon Courage" !

as i dont speak french my friend passete what that phrase means?

[Likvid]

Ugly case, looks like a freezer.

[Lord^DS]

Some more pics:

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1316/s73r1853.th.jpg Click (http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/1316/s73r1853.jpg)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6109/s73r1856.th.jpg Click (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6109/s73r1856.jpg)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6469/s73r1857.th.jpg Click (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6469/s73r1857.jpg)

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/96/s73r1858.th.jpg Click (http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/96/s73r1858.jpg)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5489/s73r1859.th.jpg Click (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5489/s73r1859.jpg)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4278/s73r1860.th.jpg Click (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4278/s73r1860.jpg)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6179/s73r1861.th.jpg Click (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6179/s73r1861.jpg)

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8836/s73r1862.th.jpg Click (http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8836/s73r1862.jpg)

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9599/s73r1863.th.jpg Click (http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9599/s73r1863.jpg)

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/8792/s73r1864.th.jpg Click (http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/8792/s73r1864.jpg)

[Lord^DS]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/899/s73r1869.th.jpg Click (http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/899/s73r1869.jpg)

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1954/s73r1870.th.jpg Click (http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1954/s73r1870.jpg)

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/544/s73r1871.th.jpg Click (http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/544/s73r1871.jpg)

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3155/s73r1872.th.jpg Click (http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3155/s73r1872.jpg)

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3081/s73r1878.th.jpg Click (http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3081/s73r1878.jpg)

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6683/s73r1879.th.jpg Click (http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6683/s73r1879.jpg)

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1040/s73r1882.th.jpg Click (http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1040/s73r1882.jpg)

[scrupples]

huge pics m8 cant you make em smaller :)

[Lord^DS]

Sorry, should be better now

[DARKFOX]

now i cant click on picture??

[Lord^DS]

now i cant click on picture??

Ok fixed it, now you can click

[Keano]

FFS buy a £400 then take the frigging thing apart ...lol

I should have mine tomorrow, I will then give my honest opinion on it.

You have to remember though it is very very early stages, so I expect many bugs on third party firmware.

[A]

I wait for ur comments m8

[Lord^DS]

How to flash the VU+ Duo with VU+ Util:

First get the VU+ Util here (http://archive.vuplus.com/download_2.0/VuUtil.zip)

Connect you PC to your box with a null modem cable and also connect the box to your local network. (and leave your box offline)

Run the VU+ Util
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2415/1vuduopdfadobereader.png

Select the COM port your are using
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7767/2manualforvuutilpdfadob.png

Check the DHCP option
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2842/vuplusdhcpon.jpg

Push the connect button
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3999/3manualforvuutilpdfadob.png

You will see "Serial port open success", turn the box on and push the set IP button
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/4194/5manualforvuutilpdfadob.png

You will see "IP Setup Success"
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7550/6manualforvuutilpdfadob.png

select the image file (*.NFI) with the open button
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8618/7manualforvuutilpdfadob.png

Push the flash button and you will see "Reading file,please wait a moment..."
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/4019/8manualforvuutilpdfadob.png

And after this you get the message that the flashing process is finished
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/914/9manualforvuutilpdfadob.png

Now your can push the disconnection button, push exit and reboot the VU+ Duo over the power button

[kleinerjunge]

Is this working also under Linux and Wine??

Always this Windows **** for Linux Set-Top-Boxes... :ack2:

cu
KJ

[Gone_Fishing]

i wait for ur comments m8

+1

tnt

[pipino]

I wait for ur comments m8

+2,

keano i would love to see your opinion specialy for the video quality if its as good as Kathrein UFS910 ...cheers

[Likvid]

Is this working also under Linux and Wine??

Always this Windows **** for Linux Set-Top-Boxes... :ack2:

cu
KJ


Yes it's very strange actually they don't release the tools for Linux as well when selling a Linux box.

[pipino]

linux is mostly used by devs..windows for punters like us..LOL :D

[Keano]

OK my DU+ has come. Been playing with it for last 30minutes and first impressions is it very good.

The front and the front display is a liitle behind the times but it does display the channel nice and clear.

CCcam works perfect in it, both ways.

I could not get my 0963 card to work in card slot though and when I telnetted to it and had a look I was getting init fault, so might have to look in to that.
The funny thing is when I telnet to box I get welcome to your DB8000 message.

For me it is a dreambox in a different case, I can't tell it apart. plugins are all there and FTP and Telnet would look like you were connected to a dreambox.

I have not fitted my HDD yet.

Not tested EPG yet, I have been using crossepg on cuberevo for last 10 months so will need to see what the score is with this receiver but if the db8000 has epg then I am sure this will.

Picture is very good on my 50" panny both HD and SD.

So if you want a HD dreambox with twin tuner then this could be for you.


Forgot to say, to flash box you don't have to the above. All you do is format a usb stick to FAT32 drag and drop the PLi image folder in to it put it in receiver and turn receiver on, it will flash box via usb in a couple of minutes.

[pipino]

great stuff !!much apreciated for the swift report ...cheers

[sonic1]

Thanks for the great info so far keano, do you mind keeping us updated as I may well take the plunge with this box. :king-041:

[mika]

Thanks for the first info Keano :respect-055:

[A]

great mine comes next week :respect-050:

[Keano]

OK got full 7 day EPG for sly uk via plugin menu.

Regarding tuners somthing I did notice was that there is no output from the tuners.
You have dish input but that is it.
Its no big deal it will just mean having to run shotgun cable from your dish instead of loopthrough. In my case it does not affect me because I have 8-1 switch on tuner a and then motor on tuner b.

Tuners must be good because I have just tested 7.0w 11996H and it comes in with perfect picture and with my other receivers its right on the border line.

[A]

did u install ccam manually or from pli server ??

[bobonthejob]

oh am i excited by this box. All looking good so far. Nice one Keano....

Everything is pushing me a way from the icecrypt and AZBox and me wants to get this baby now... !

Keep us posted on any shortfalls... but with 2 x Sat tuner, PVR, HD and Linux... This must be the forward surely.

[Keano]

@A m8 downloaded CCcam from plugin menu which connects to PLi server. They have loads of plugins for to you download.

[A]

so same dm 8xx PLI ENGIMA 2 for Vu+duo also I guess ??

[foggy]

did you get the white card to work via it internal slot?