0.9.4283 firmware

[tsakman]

2010.01.15

45.99 MB

aa4fe4b823a0006266635a3832a3fa65

udp stream | play recorded file issue | record at twin tuner | edit favorite list | blind scan issue

[hfmls]

record at twin tuner

can someone test this? what does this means? can we record on channel and watch another using both tunner?

[slegs]

record at twin tuner

can someone test this? what does this means? can we record on channel and watch another using both tunner?

I image this feature is for the Premium+ only

[hfmls]

hmm, well if so, they could write record at twin tuner for premium+ :S

[eme]

Originally Posted by hfmls View Post
record at twin tuner

can someone test this? what does this means? can we record on channel and watch another using both tunner?
I image this feature is for the Premium+ only

so its not for the premium two record 2 channels like we payed still paid for :nopity:, pity. still waiting for what i payed for.:puke:

still in some ways its getting better.

[feedme]

We'll I'am back on .4219

.4283 seems otherwise ok, but the recorded files play has no subttitle menu at all and audio language menu opens , but there is nothing inside.

[FME_fta]

Looks like seek in movie mode isn't working in this firmware.
I guess they are working in the seek code to have seek in wmv, because now when trying to seek in WMV it doesn't give any error.

[hfmls]

yes seek doesn't work in mkv

[goran]

Euro_EPG is not appearing in Settings now, plus it is still not functioning in Plug-ins... Not that it was expected at this point... ;)

Well, now we may well get it, since they published the required tools and altered some stuff... ;)

[hanswurscht]

hmm, I cant get working UDP Stream to PC.
I can start it on the Box, but on VLC comes nothing, right Port, right Protocol (UDP)

[goran]

What do you do exactly, Hans?

It will sure help many... ;)

[FME_fta]

How do you know the right port for the UDP streaming?
(if "UDP Stream" is really streaming to a PC)

[zeini]

hmm, I cant get working UDP Stream to PC.
I can start it on the Box, but on VLC comes nothing, right Port, right Protocol (UDP)

I think you can only stream udp to AZBox.
Press in TV-Mode menu-button
Here you can see a new menupoint "streaming"

[FME_fta]

I think you can only stream udp to AZBox.
Press in TV-Mode menu-button
Here you can see a new menupoint "streaming"

It works!!!

In azbox put the IP of your PC and start the streaming, then in VLC put also the IP of your PC and you will get what you see in azbox. :respect-048:

EDIT: This is not stable, now I have to reboot because I can't see the GUI.

[hfmls]

WORKING!! :)

JUST LIKE FME_FTA TOLD!.

can we use other software?

like media player classic? (better)

[goran]

Thanx Zeini!

Did it all - it got stuck! Wouldn't go away, the extra menu for Streaming, until I rebooted...

A bug!!!

[hfmls]

udp://@192.168.1.6:9000

ok i put this link in media player classic!! opens...detects all. but no image. VLC is ok.

anyone? :)

[FME_fta]

In MPC it only shows a static image, if you press stop and play again you get other static image.

Other funny thing, when streaming is activated, it will stream that channel, if you change channel in azbox (inside the same TP) you can see the one channel in VLC and the other in azbox.

[pr2]

Hello,

224.1.1.100 is a multicast address, so this is send towards your LAN and every PC can receive the multicast stream simply by listening to:

udp://@224.1.1.100:9000

So no need to specify your PC or Azbox IP address simply use the multicast address.

Pressing the left arrow allow you to set the stream duration to not defined.

During streaming it is not possible to record (they probably simply change the record signal to a streamed signal).

Pr2

[FME_fta]

Hello,

224.1.1.100 is a multicast address, so this is send towards your LAN and every PC can receive the multicast stream simply by listening to:

udp://@224.1.1.100:9000

So no need to specify your PC or Azbox IP address simply use the multicast address.

Pressing the left arrow allow you to set the stream duration to not defined.

During streaming it is not possible to record (they probably simply change the record signal to a streamed signal).

Pr2

That works better ;)

[kanber_kav]

if there is anybody that has managed to be worked stream can that guy say to us how to manage exactly?

[FME_fta]

In Azbox when watching a channel, press "MENU" in RC and select "Streaming".
Now in "Duration" put the time that you want in minutes, or try to select 0 minutes (not defined) and you will have the streaming activated without time limits.

Then in a PC, open the m3u file with VLC which is inside the zip in:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/y4qo3z

You should have the streaming working in VLC with a PC.

[cescof]

In Azbox when watching a channel, press "MENU" in RC and select "Streaming".
Now in "Duration" put the time that you want in minutes, or try to select 0 minutes (not defined) and you will have the streaming activated without time limits.

Then in a PC, open the m3u file with VLC which is inside the zip in:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/y4qo3z

You should have the streaming working in VLC with a PC.

Really thanks for precious help
Regards

[scalpel]

I can't believe, that we have streaming?!:congratulations-008:respect-055::bravo-009::respect-040:

[cescof]

I can't believe, that we have streaming?!:congratulations-008:respect-055::bravo-009::respect-040:

Next step it could be have a web interface able to do record planning or reserve like azbox....
I hope so..
Regards

[simcan]

At last!!. A firmware worth updating.

[goran]

if there is anybody that has managed to be worked stream can that guy say to us how to manage exactly?

What pr2 said is correct! I didn't bother with changing the address or anything now!

Start VLC on your PC.

Press Menu to the left of upir OK button, on your remote -> Streaming -> don't change anything except duration [put what you want, like "Not define"] -> Start.

In VLC go to Media -> Streaming -> Network -> choose Protocol to UDP in the drop-down menu -> address the same as in AZbox HD, i.e. 224.1.1.100 and -> Port to 9000 -> Stream -> and again Stream.

It takes trying a few times to kick-start it but it does work now, after I rebooted, when it froze the first time!

SD is fine.

HD is blocky, at my end - but I use wired connection from AZ HD to the router and then wireless to my laptop.

Good if you're in bed, for instance sick, then watching on a laptop there... :coolgleamA:

Finally a good development!!! Now, let's check the 'blindscan'... Will we finally have a few good things to brag about? :respect-069:

=================ONE MORE THING===============

Can we have the same thing done in reverse now, please, working even in Win7 64b?:rolleyes:

I mean, this simple and effective... :svengo:Maybe a bit better, even... :D

[cescof]

What pr2 said is correct! I didn't bother with changing the address or anything now!

Start VLC on your PC.

Press Menu to the left of upir OK button, on your remote -> Streaming -> don't change anything except duration [put what you want, like "Not define"] -> Start.

In VLC go to Media -> Streaming -> Network -> choose Protocol to UDP in the drop-down menu -> address the same as in AZbox HD, i.e. 224.1.1.100 and -> Port to 9000 -> Stream -> and again Stream.

It takes trying a few times to kick-start it but it does work now, after I rebooted, when it froze the first time!

SD is fine.

HD is blocky, at my end - but I use wired connection from AZ HD to the router and then wireless to my laptop.

Good if you're in bed, for instance sick, then watching on a laptop there... :coolgleamA:

Finally a good development!!! Now, let's check the 'blindscan'... Will we finally have a few good things to brag about? :respect-069:

=================ONE MORE THING===============

Can we have the same thing done in reverse now, please, working even in Win7 64b?:rolleyes:

I mean, this simple and effective... :svengo:Maybe a bit better, even... :D
For me also hd it's ok (lan) but it's impossibile change channel from pc, so not so good if you are in bed.... what's the problem now to have a basic web interface?????
Regards

[goran]

Next step it could be have a web interface able to do record planning or reserve like azbox....
I hope so..
Regards

If I want to stop it [kill VLC and try to change the channel on AZ HD], AZbox HD gives me a little window warning me that it's "currently streaming" and asking me if I am sure that I want to change a channel, because it will "stop the current streaming"... ;)

[kanber_kav]

format area an update fw ok stream. :)

[goran]

For me also hd it's ok (lan) but it's impossibile change channel from pc, so not so good if you are in bed.... what's the problem now to have a basic web interface?????
Regards

We have that in 3 versions [php, telesat and Kanber_Kav]!

[cescof]

We have that in 3 versions [php, telesat and Kanber_Kav]!

Sorry man you're right... but i hope it's just a start now....
Regards

[iwols]

when doing a blindscan the azbox sets a position limit on my vbox just like the last firmware did,meaning the dish doesnt move no more,also ive removed all the tps on 10east did a blind scan and it found nothing,so make your own mind up

[goran]

Blindscan test, with NIT switched OFF:

At 12.5W, I deleted all the channels.

I went to -> Scan all frequency ->
min. fr. 10700
max. fr. 12750
SR - the lowest I could find: 1730
Pol. ALL [the rest as is]

-> Start Scan

Phase A:
It's going in increments of 5MHz and it doesn't get anything at all... until: 12597.00 H - DVB-S (QPSK) - 1730 3/4 - NID:8192 - TID:4096 -> that was the lowest SR I could find on 12.5'W and I was waiting for it to be "discovered"... It did NOT see it.

In my list that was the highest frequency, too. It did NOT find any other frequency higher than 12.597, sadly!

Phase B:
The first run [up to 50%] was, I suppose, scanning all frequencies in combination with Vertical polarity, and then the second one Horizontal [from 50% onwards]... Maybe it will find and scan it now?!?

It certainly did NOT!

Phase C:
Then, it went once again, but for a quick scan, this time, using the transponders already in its list. It didn't find all that much... some 53 TV channels... Still nothing above 12.597 MHz!

Another little test, for comparison:
Now I changed the mode of search, turning ON the NIT mode and scanning through Satellite Scan menu. It still found the same number of channels.

Additionally:
I added all the frequencies above 12.597 manually [from King*of*sat] including the correct S/R this time, as the one in the list was wrong!]. Initially it didn't want to add it, as there was a similar TP with only S/R that differed, so I had to delete the one in the list already and then add it from scratch. When I finished adding all of those TPs manually, I scanned again. It found 2 more TV channels.

But it still couldn't find Tiziana Sat channel at 12594.00 H, for instance. So, I had to add a few more TPs manually, then scanned from 12515.00 H up... Got another channel. Then I noticed that I must add the missing 11157.00 H TP. It found another channel there.

Curious: I really struggled to get AZ HD to add and scan successfully 11100 H - DVB-S (QPSK) - 2000 5/6 - NID:1 - TID:1, as it just wouldn't find any channels there, even though the signal was strong and even though I added PIDs manually, later on. If I changed any parameter it just wouldn't see any signal... Finally, when I changed FEC to 5/6 [not AUTO, as it was], it finally locked on and got it! I surmise that there may be a bug in there, too, sadly...

I ended up with 59 TV channels, from the initial 53.

My conclusion: "blindscan" does NOT work in Elite and Premium models still!

Maybe in Premium+ but not in Elite and Premium models, sadly...

Anyone who can re-test carefully?

[iwols]

yep goran another year same crap ah well

[hanswurscht]

What do you do exactly, Hans?

It will sure help many... ;)

Get it working now with all the Tips :) thx
Its really unstable but working, not like I want to get it working but better then nothing, good Job!
Bad are all HD Sender, its a stuttering like hell, but I think here is the Point the Transferspeed over Network.
HD works much much better, if you take your IP and not Multicast!

[hanswurscht]

Here a Picture from a real Stream to PC 6 !! in words SIX Streams are running to the same Time on VU+duo
When we have this on AZ? (I know, never)

[hfmls]

?
dude ...

[goran]

But the 2 tuners in VU Duo+ are in the motherboard, embedded, from what I see....:svengo:

[happyhammer]

streaming not working for me.


Is there any router settings that could be blocking it ?


EDIT: tried on a different PC( which i had tried before) and its working

[iwols]

me neither it just locks my router up linksys

[FME_fta]

VLC need to have permissions in the firewall.
If it still doesn't work, use the IP of the PC in azbox and in VLC for the streaming.

[goran]

Maybe your firewall?

Edit: heh, I open the windows and by the time I answer... :D

[rsl123]

me neither it just locks my router up linksys

my linksys with OpenWRT installed also blocks the wireless connection when streaming is enabled. That seems to be a known problem with the router:
hxxps://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=100165

But also cable connected directly to the switch (not router) there is no image with vlc. no firewall involved. but vlc seems to see the udp stream.

[medmed]

my router sagem 3302 reboot when start stream in my AZ .

[FME_fta]

Maybe there are routers that don't support multicast (224.1.1.100)?

[hfmls]

i put my pc ip in azbox 192.168.1.6

and in VLC i open udp://@192.168.1.6:9000

SD and HD all good.

delay 5seconds.

[Robertus78]

I'll gave it up for a few moments.

I'm running XP and i turned the firewall off. When i open VLC , i see by Media info , statitics that he receives a stream. He shows not wich codec etc. he uses. Nothings happens. I installed a fresh codec pack, nothing happens. Something comes in, but VLC shows nothing. There must be something wrong on my side, i just can't find it ......

[leao6]

in vlc where you put the ip and port in the lower left mark the options and then put 5 sec. delay as said hfmls. is very important

[goran]

See my post above. Also, choose "Show more options"...:cheers2:

[leao6]

See my post above. Also, choose "Show more options"...:cheers2:

where?

[mushroom]

i edit url on my azbox , i see all firmware except the last one .only up to 4219.on my pc i see all firmware.thats strange

[leao6]

i edit url on my azbox , i see all firmware except the last one .only up to 4219.on my pc i see all firmware.thats strange

you have usb.

[mushroom]

yeap m8 no problem to update,its just a strange thing i promised

[mushroom]

oups typo . noticed not promised :)

[ikari]

why can't i download the new firmware through the azbox with http://fw.azupd.com url ? the last last version their is 4219

[marcinq76]

Seems like i have the same problem with my netgear router. LAN from AZ to Router then WLAN to laptop. No picture. I tried both the ip of laptop and of multicas. Any suggestions?

me neither it just locks my router up linksys

[hanswurscht]

cant get it running, too on Elite.
Dunno why.
Router is an Buffalo with dd-wrt(tested more then one Trunkversion),Multicast is open in Firewallsettings, but I get no picture.
Tested also with old 0.86 vlc with no Luck.
Tested 224.1.1.100 also and IP from PC, tested other Ports, no Luck.
Tested 5 Seconds delay, no Luck

Giving up for now, its not working here with an Elite.
With my second old Premium it works, so my Network is OK
Have no more Ideas where the Problem could be.
Why no easy WebIF like other Boxes with streaming????

[humaxarie]

why can't i download the new firmware through the azbox with http://fw.azupd.com url ? the last last version their is 4219

Just looked at the site...it is added, so you can download it with azbox

[FME_fta]

Yes when trying to download through azbox with http://fw.azupd.com it doesn't see the newest fw.
Azbox doesn't sees it as we see with a browser and OpenSat might forgotten to put in the firmware list for azbox to see it.

[Robertus78]

I'm just curious. Is there anyone with an Elite were streaming works? I'm almost starting to think, streaming only works on the premiums, maybe i'm wrong?

[hfmls]

i have elite and it works sometimes, other's don't.

[Friendly-Face]

Now i have not used my Elite box since the day FAT-GIANT on AzForum delited all my posts there, but if i can recall it my box did stresm OK at time when i was using it

must say that i have not used this box for more then 1 month now, as i was feedup with them. and i have to say it openly, im very disapinted with them, i was with them from the beggining but they are just MORONS they are just LOW LEVEL programers and they DO NOT LISTEN TO COSTUMERS

the box it self has an outstanding HW but the SW is crap, and they just get more bugs out then they fix, and the prommise we had for the FW 1 version at the last year they have not keept it.

i say only one thing what god round comes round , and Opensat/AZBOZ will pay for it ojne day

[hfmls]

friendly-face stream worked ok 1month ago? how come?

there was no stream 1 month ago.

[goran]

I bet he meant from PC to AZ...

[Friendly-Face]

i quoting my self

i said when i used the box the Streaming was OK
sorry if my english is so bad sometimes, i meant that it worked

Now i do not bother with that box anymore as i have other projects in my hands :-)


but if i can recall it my box did stresm OK at time when i was using it

[goran]

FF, here we are discussing a different streaming, with this FW.

It's from AZbox HD to PC, using VLC, which we didn' have so far.

So, logically, you were talking about streaming from PC to AZbox HD... ;)

[happyhammer]

With my elite, i have been unable to get the streaming from azbox to PC to work. so far.


Ii can still stream from the PC to the azbox using UDP and the azbox IP channel feature.


Next test is to have the pc and azbox just on a hub, or even just a crossover cable, to see if its the router blocking the streaming

EDIT: tried different PC( that i had previously tried before) and its working. go figure..

Found setting streaming on abox to the PC IP was much better than multicast. Then on PC , its just udp://@:9000 no need to put the azbox ip. ( i used vlc default port 1234 instead of 9000)

[rfdomingos]

I wasn't able to stream, so far. Maybe it has something to do with the router / router configuration.

I'm using a Thomson TG784

[Dr.Mark]

I used to watch MPG files (DVD quality MPEG2) from hard disk but now they dont play after upgrading to this firmware.
Has anyone noticed this before?

Only good thing I see is that seek to previous position works :Chevy_anim:
Altho I would prefer the ability to insert bookmarks like the TM6900