Help Needed with New Patch

[teassoc]

I've installed new patch 714p, done the factory reset and re-loaded my saved channel list.

BIS channels on Hotbird are opening OK. Nova channels are showing good signal but sadly not clearing with my g***a card (another story). So everything seems to be OK on Hotbird.

If I switch to astra on 19 degrees I can't clear Canal + NDL with a second g***a card - it shows low quality and says it's moving to another satelite position (but doesn't). Same thing on Thor 1 degrees. Can't open digi channels - low quality strength, but I think it's related to the same problem I have on 19 degrees east. FTA channels are opening on these satelites fine.

Channels on 4.8 degrees open though.

What have I done wrong?

[holmroad]

Often the second card has to be in a cam (assuming the other is in the actual card slot) and there can be a conflict in that cam!
Also on 23.5E when I have a cam in I cannot open all KD channels, but fine as soon as I remove it!:respect-067:

[Giga]

If motorized check it's setup, otherwise from menu:
installation
Auto Navigation
Select the satellites involved (Background turns yellow) (cursor left, up/down press ok)
cursor right:
network search: Off
Search Type: TV
Scan select: press ok and press OK

[dxman]

G@mma card it is working with the latest files in the card slot[13 east]
if you want to use another G@mma card for a different sat use either an irdeto CAM or dragon,but in some cases you mite have a conflict with patch
I use G@mma card for a while ,and it has been working all the time,in the card slot

[oldjiver]

Holmrod, I had same problem, havent had chance to check advice yet.

[oldjiver]

Sorry Holmrod meant to sat Giga has given advice in my esarlier 23e thread.

[teassoc]

If motorized check it's setup, otherwise from menu:
installation
Auto Navigation
Select the satellites involved (Background turns yellow) (cursor left, up/down press ok)
cursor right:
network search: Off
Search Type: TV
Scan select: press ok and press OK

Thanks for the advice.

Will this automatically recover all the TPs and channels on this satelite?

[Giga]

Thanks for the advice.

Will this automatically recover all the TPs and channels on this satelite?
the transponders should be there in your channel list it will re-scan these and research the channels.
Check in satellite setup, if transponders are there and if you you have a good signal and quality (blue and yellow blocks.
If not check your dish setup. Either LNB switch or the motorized settings.

[holmroad]

@Teassoc:-
Sorry mate, I TOTALLY mis-read your original post and picked out the wrong points you were making, but Giga's advice should certainly serve you well - as ALWAYS!!:respect-050:

[teassoc]

the transponders should be there in your channel list it will re-scan these and research the channels.
Check in satellite setup, if transponders are there and if you you have a good signal and quality (blue and yellow blocks.
If not check your dish setup. Either LNB switch or the motorized settings.

Thanks. I remain worried about this and suspect I have a problem with my channel list as when I deleted and added one of the Dutch package transponders last night it didn't properly recover the channels. Still reporting only about 45% channel strength. Previously they were high (as are other channels on astra). Funnily enough I can see some of the Dutch package channels like RTL 7 etc.

I could therefore make everything worse by doing what I did on a limited scale last night affect all the astra TP signal strengths, virtually wiping out everything on astra.

Another thing that has re-enforced that worry as I was trying to delete and re-instore the al-jazeera transponder on 13 degrees east. It let me delete but stopped me adding it back, telling me it was already there. But of course when I try and find it on the TP list it's not there.

Help!!!!

[Giga]

>8 >8
Another thing that has re-enforced that worry as I was trying to delete and re-instore the al-jazeera transponder on 13 degrees east. It let me delete but stopped me adding it back, telling me it was already there. But of course when I try and find it on the TP list it's not there.

Help!!!!

put your channel list on usb stick, and edit it with
Clarke Tech Studio (https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=110802)

[teassoc]

I have tried a few things this morning:

- taking my cam and 2 G***a cards out to test reception
- turning patch off
- loading latest TMSoftcam
- deleting and adding TP 12515H on astra 19.2 east

All to no effect. When I try and clear the 'missing' channels reception quality levels are under 50%.

In particular I'm not seeing any of the digi tv channels on Thor which are all over 12500H or V. Coincidently the 'missing' canal + NDL channels are also over 12500. As a further experiment I found I had the same prblem with canal sat FR channels where the frequency was over 12500 - not that I expected to clear them of course.

I'm left wondering whether one of the following is causing the problem:

- a memory 'thing' for the TM6900, that could be solved by deleting TPs?
- something wrong with my set-up, possibly LNB settings?
- the LNB itself playing up?

I'm doubtful about the third possibilityas it would be a strange co-incidence that that starts to go wrong the minute I update the patch.

Anyone have any thoughts on the above?

[dxman]

hello mate
did you try this settings for the lnb
if universal : 9.750/10.600
different settings can cause all sort of problems

regards dxman

[teassoc]

hello mate
did you try this settings for the lnb
if universal : 9.750/10.600
different settings can cause all sort of problems

regards dxman

Yes, they are exactly my settings.

[Giga]

when you did a factory reset, settings for LNB's or motorized dish are gone, you should re-enter these.

when you go in satellite setup you should have pictures similar to these:
important settings:
LNB Power: ON
22Khz: AUTO
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu270/Jan_Gruuthuse/Thor.jpg
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu270/Jan_Gruuthuse/Intelsat10-02.jpg

while viewing a channel press •
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu270/Jan_Gruuthuse/10W.jpg
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu270/Jan_Gruuthuse/08W.jpg

included a current channel list with 1°West deivided over 2 satellites at 0.8°W and 1°W.
diseqc or motor is not setup!

[teassoc]

Thanks. From memory I don't think the DiSeqC settings looked like those shown for Thor. I have an external motor driving my dish.

The LNB settings are those though.

What should I be doing with the DiSeqC settings? Currently I think they are both off.

[Giga]

You have to setup in Menu Installation
Motorized Setting
DiSEqC Motor: 1.2 or USALS
and continue from there

[teassoc]

Those are my motorised settings. Set at Diseqc 1.2 and LNB as above.

But when I look at satelite setup and look at Diseqc settings for 1 degrees W, there are 2 boxes for Diseqc 1.0 and 1.1 and (excuse my ignorance, this bit of the original installation was done for me) which don't look anything like the numbers showm but I can manually adjust them. Adjusting them makes no difference to the quality levels.

Moving the dish to try and improve quality doesn't improve quality for the higher frequencies.

What am I doing wrong?

[Giga]

If no diseqc switch between receiver and dishmotor
LNB Power: ON
22Khz: AUTO
DiSEqC 1.0 = OFF
DiSEqC 1.1 = OFF

[Giga]

Motorized Setting:
DiSEqC Motor: 1.2
Do you know what your reference satellite is? Position 0?
Select the Sat location in Satellite
Use Motor Control: Goto Reference
Move, try to find a strong signal (left/ right cursor)
Move Fine: to find strongest signal in level and QualLity (left/ right cursor) take in account delay of 1 to 2 seconds processing time for levels
When satisfied: Select Save: Press OK
Motor Control: Recalculate

if you know your Limits East & West: set those.

check other sat locations, and adjust where needed and save

If I made mistake or made wrong assumption:
please other Users jump in and correct my mistakes

[teassoc]

Motorized Setting:
DiSEqC Motor: 1.2
Do you know what your reference satellite is? Position 0?
Select the Sat location in Satellite
Use Motor Control: Goto Reference
Move, try to find a strong signal (left/ right cursor)
Move Fine: to find strongest signal in level and QualLity (left/ right cursor) take in account delay of 1 to 2 seconds processing time for levels
When satisfied: Select Save: Press OK
Motor Control: Recalculate

if you know your Limits East & West: set those.

check other sat locations, and adjust where needed and save

If I made mistake or made wrong assumption:
please other Users jump in and correct my mistakes

That was the first thing I tried.

Someone else on another board has reported the same problem with high frequency channels. He said he'd had this problem with all patches since one of last year (March I think).

[Giga]

Your doing test in technomate without cam'sand cards?
go in to Satellite Setup, select LNB Freq
select the top combination: 09750 / 10600
change LNB Freq and see if this improves to 1 down or 1 up
09749/10599 or 09751/10601 could be a problem with oscilator and the used lnb one of those could have a deviaition?

[teassoc]

Your doing test in technomate without cam'sand cards?
go in to Satellite Setup, select LNB Freq
select the top combination: 09750 / 10600
change LNB Freq and see if this improves to 1 down or 1 up
09749/10599 or 09751/10601 could be a problem with oscilator and the used lnb one of those could have a deviaition?

Thanks once again for your time and patience. I'll try that but I'm not holding out much hope.

Seems like it might be a problem/incompatability with the channel list and the more recent Magic patches. I've been told it all started to go wrong with those patches since last March.

Can I revert to an earlier patch?

Alternatively could I see if I'm better off with another list?

[dxman]

you can always try to restore default channels
by pressing factory reset,it mite ask for pin code press 0000

then restore default channels
once you done that ,because some channels they are old,you should delete the lot and try to download them again,for each satellite position
in my case because i got a 36 volts rotator i enable diseq 1.2,otherwise i can't move the dish ,your Lnb settings they seem to be ok to me
i'm looking at my settings
and they are as follow
LNB power on
LNB TYPE universal
LNB FREQ 9.750/10.600
22khz auto
Diseqc1.0 off
Disqc1.1 off
i hope you sort it out and good luck

regards dxman

[Giga]

download: TM6900HDSuper_707-29-12-2009.zip at Technomate website put that on and see if you still have issues.
OTV on 1°w 12687H 27500 FTA

with channel editor open a copy of you channellist
on the channel page select all channels and delete
on the transponder list select all transponders, slide the side bar until you see the terrestrial transponder, press control and keep pressed down and now with left mouse click deselect these (no longer marked) and delete all selected transponders.
on the satellite page, select all satellites you don't use and delete these.
save this list, load it on technomate
blind search 1 sat location 1°W with mode TV, and see if you have these high transponders ok

If you did buy the Technomate local in your *******, see if they can have it serviced if necessary? Or contact Technomate, they maybe aware of problem?

[dxman]

when i had problem with mine a couple days ago,
what i did
1: download original firmware from technomate webb site
2: install original firmware latest to the receiver
3: reset factory default
4: As i had problem ,with the dish i done the east/west limit
5: save settings
6: install patch
so maybe doing from scratch it mite solve some problem.
there is a chance that maybe our friend got a faulty receiver
of course i could be wrong

[Giga]

have to agree dxman, if this fails most likely a hardware problem. As it is only in the high frequencies: maybe only a retuning of the oscillator is needed. Contact Technomate they should be able to tell you more if you can have it serviced locally or send the box to them?

[teassoc]

I have gone back to patch 679p using the TM go back utility.

No problem now with those high frequencies so can't be a hardware fault. Must be something to do with the more recent patches that is only affecting a very small number of users.

Shame I can't take advantage of the additional features but I have programmed a tita card so hopefully that will give me the via hack.

[dxman]

I tested titanium card and it is working with the diablo 2,3 cam
maybe a quick respons will be a fun card also,i tested and it is working on my echostar embeded via card reader,but not tested with The TM card reader unfortunately,I'm sorry for the bad luck with your TM,the latest patch it give me also some problems ,as i lost all my sat positions so i had to reset the dish again,it could very well be the patch that is causing some problems in some receivers but i sort it out at the end
well wish you good luck for the next time, i hope you get it sorted

just to add
I just tested the fun card via2.6 on the embed TM card reader it reconise the card as via card and so on but will not decode anythings strange,but it will work with the cam,it mite work with patch 679P, the G@mm@ is working

regards dxman