New reciever from celrun

[stevie1961]

Head Medialink ML 9700 Twin Full HD W-LAN USB PVR
[01162] 269.00EUR

[incl 19% Tax excl. Shipping]



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Head Medialink ML 9700 Twin Full HD W-LAN USB PVR

The Medi @ link is a new multimedia talent at the receiver market. The Linux based system with intuitive menu navigation makes absolutely no wish unfulfilled. Numerous features such as Internet access (they look at movies online or download them with the Download Manager on the hard disk, etc.), Web browser (you unlimited surfing the Internet with or without keyboard), YouTube, video recording (PVR USB or e-SATA), integrated media player for photos, video (MPEG2, MPEG4, Xvid, MKV, etc.) and music define the ultimate multimedia experience in their living room in a new way And all this with absolute Full HD 1080p quality
The many built-in interfaces such as USB, LAN, card reader, digital audio (S-PDIF optical), WiFi and e-SATA interface for internal hard drives leave all options open. The attractive design and the unlimited variety of functions make the device a piece of jewelry next to their TV. She values her living room into a multimedia experience on, and at an unbeatable price-performance ratio.



Main features:


Full HD (Full HDTV 1080i, 1080p)
Linux Operating System
Display: 7-segment display
Twin tuner (Two satellite tuners)
WiFi (Wireless Internet)
PVR (Rec)
Timeshift (pause / play)
Integrated e-SATA port
YouTube Quickly
Internet TV (IPTV, VLC Player)
Web browser (Internet browser)
Pre-installed media player
CPU: Sigma Design SMP8655
Flash memory: NAND 256MByte
Operating system: LINUX
Memory System: 256MByte DDR2
Video Memory: 128MB DDR2
Ethernet: RJ-45 (10/100BASE-T) LAN port
Wireless LAN USB Type IEEE 802.11b, g, n (Wireless USB WiFi)
DVB-S2 Tuner: Two Tuners Reception
Input Frequency: 950-2150 Mhz
FEC decoder DVB-S2 QPSK: ½, 3 / 5, 2 / 3, ¾, 4 / 5, 5 / 6, 8 / 9, 9 / 10, AUTO
FEC decoder DVB-S2 8PSK: 3 / 5, 2 / 3, ¾, 5 / 6, 8 / 9, 9 / 10, AUTO
Demodulation: DVB-S / 2, QPSK, 8PSK
Satellite Input: 2x F-Type
Symbol rate: 1 - 45 Msps
LNB Polarization: Vertical 14V / 19V Horizontal
DiSEqC protocol: 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, USALS
VIDEO: MPEG2 SD / HD, MPEG4 P10 h.264/AVC SD / HD Xvid, MKV
AUDIO: MPEG AAC, AC3, WAV, AIFF, WMA
Resolution: 480i/480p/576i/576p/720p/1080i/1080p
Subtitle: SRT, SMI, TXT
Photo: JPEG, BMP
Front and back inputs / outputs:
1x S-Video
1x Composite (CVBS)
1x Component (YPbPr)
1x Optical S-PDIF
1x USB 2.0
1x HDMI
1x RJ45
1x SCART
1x Card Reader
1x Power Switch 220V
IR modules (38KHz)
5x buttons
1x USB 2.0
Size: 300 x 210 x 60 mm
Gross Weight: 2.74 kg
Net Weight: 1.49 kg
Power Supply: 100Vac - 240Vac
Power, Type: 0/60Hz 1500mA (external adapter)
Operating temperature: 0 ° C to 60 ° C
Storage Temperature: -10 ° C to +70 ° C
Power: Max 60W, Standby <1W

Delivery
Infrared Remote Control
Adapter -
USB WLAN Stick up to 300 Mbit / s
Manual German / English
Batteries

Hope this kickstarts the Azbox development, but this box has faster chips.

It does however use multicas and openxcas, which I find strange, reading a russian forum states that the firmware is vertually identical to the Azbox and some bits might be interchangable

[alcatel]

Is this also a receiver from opensat ?

[digihoe]

Too bad for the AZBox, this box is faster has better WiFi-speed and twin-tuner at a cheaper cost! And later on I'm sure they'll take MultiCAS, too bad thet didn't put more RAM...

[stevie1961]

It runs multicas on a usb stick, but when you take the usb stick out, multicas will not work.

[happyhammer]

twin Tuner...wonder what that means... i'm staying well away from another sigma/celrun f**kup..

[xanadu]

This seems to be a cut down Azbox HD to compete with DM800.

[goran]

"Cut down" how, if it has twin tuner and a faster processor? Because it has no CI slots and only 1 USB slot? Well, some would deem it improved...

However: "Twin" allowing recording of just 1 channel from tuner no.2?

Also, some things are sorted out now, like the dongle etc.

In some ways it seems better than AZ HD but cheaper...

[But the support for Sigma... Hmmmm....]

Guess why it's cheaper... :rolleyes:

[tapper]

No internal hdd support either

[goran]

But it states:
The many built-in interfaces such as USB, LAN, card reader, digital audio (S-PDIF optical), WiFi and e-SATA interface for internal hard drives leave all options open.

Later on also "PVR"...

[xanadu]

No plug-in tuners.

[goran]

On board, like Vu+ Duo? Which motherboard is that?

[digihoe]

Seems like a good second tuner for the bedroom...

Does it have a DOM? How is the LAN/USB speed (full speed or crippeled)?

Since this is a newer CPU does it come with a later Linux kernel?

If OpenSat/Celrun could do a great streaming server for the old AZBox (UniCast with ability to change channels fast), I well could go for this one in the bedroom...

[rfdomingos]

"Cut down" how, if it has twin tuner and a faster processor? Because it has no CI slots and only 1 USB slot? Well, some would deem it improved...

However: "Twin" allowing recording of just 1 channel from tuner no.2?

Also, some things are sorted out now, like the dongle etc.

In some ways it seems better than AZ HD but cheaper...

[But the support for Sigma... Hmmmm....]

Guess why it's cheaper... :rolleyes:

Actually, looking at the sigmadesigns comparison sheet, the 8650 doesn't look much better, if not even worse on some areas than the 8630 series.

It's not even capable of decoding 2 HD streams, on the spec sheet.

I'd like to see some pics and more info of the mainboard

[digihoe]

Actually, looking at the sigmadesigns comparison sheet, the 8650 doesn't look much better, if not even worse on some areas than the 8630 series.

It's not even capable of decoding 2 HD streams, on the spec sheet.

I'd like to see some pics and more info of the mainboard

This is true, but right now the AZBox is not doing 2 HD streams either...

However the main CPU is 3 times faster as far as I understand in flops, this should be good for plugins/multitasking, however the RAM is still an issue...

[Carp95]

This is true, but right now the AZBox is not doing 2 HD streams either...



??? I can record a HD channel and watch another on premium plus for me thats 2

[digihoe]

??? I can record a HD channel and watch another on premium plus for me thats 2

OK... But it's not really... It is really able to output 2 HD streams (720p/1080i). When you record that is like when you save a file to your computer (not really since there are some muxing/filtering even decryption in our case, since we do not have full-ts).

[zeini]

In a german board is reported.
You can look a mkv-movie and at the same time you can record a HDTV-channel! This isn't possible even with premium+!

Here (http://www.sigmadesigns.com/Products/selection_guide/selection_guide.html) you can see the differences of the chip. Remember AZBox have SMP8634 and the medi@link have SMP8655.

[iwols]

three words.... no thank you

[goran]

http://www.sigmadesigns.com/Products/selection_guide/selection_guide.html

Well, it states that - in the "Market segment" - 8650 series can't do Blu-ray or HDTV... or "isn't available" for such products or what...?!?

Zeini just stated that it is reported that it can record HDTV while one watches an MKV file at the same time...

On the other hand, SMP8634 and SMP8635 can. And we know that Elite and Premium... Well, no need to explain. Except, what was the problem: the motherboard had to be changed, allegedly because of the chipset?

Anybody remembers the OS statement where they explain why they needed a new motherboard and the problems with the chipset, not to mention problems with Sigma guaranteeing it can do 2 streams at the same time, from two different tuners and OS kept saying for a long time that they are working on it, that they will come up with their own solution and then suddenly "sorry, we never claimed it can/should work"?!?

WTF?!?

Chipset [not the main chip] would mean that circuitry/chips around the main processor are the cause of their worries, as they claimed, if memory serves.


A chipset or chip set refers to a group of integrated circuits (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit), or chips, that are designed to work together. They are usually marketed as a single product.

In computing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computing), the term [I]chipset is commonly used to refer to a set of specialized chips on a computer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer)'s microprocessors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microprocessor), the term chipset often refers to a specific pair of chips on the motherboard: the northbridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northbridge_%28computing%29) and the southbridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southbridge_%28computing%29). The northbridge links the CPU to very high-speed devices, especially main memory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_memory) and graphics controllers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_controller), and the southbridge connects to lower-speed peripheral buses (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_%28computing%29) (such as PCI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Local_Bus) or ISA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_Standard_Architecture)). In many modern chipsets, the southbridge actually contains some on-chip integrated peripherals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motherboard#Integrated_peripheral s), such as Ethernet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet), USB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB), and audio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_audio) devices.
A chipset is usually designed to work with a specific family of microprocessors. Because it controls communications between the processor and external devices, the chipset plays a crucial role in determining system performance.


So, when we see the processor specs [however confusing] this still doesn't mean that complex and demanding A-V stuff we're interested in on a forum like this one will work...

We know who chose the HW, we know who guaranteed it will work and in the end it didn't.

Any proper pros here to give more dirty details, please? Am I reading this correctly [as a lay person, from Humanities, just a hobbyist]?

[massimo1167]

three words.... no thank you
I agree:
NO THANK YOU!!!
NO MORE OPENSAT or CELRUN or SIGMA DEVICE IN MY HOME!

[hfmls]

dont talk trash!

sigma is great!!


opensat not.

if all this is true i will buy it in a second

[SAUS04]

I agree with hflms completely its opensat thats not pulling their weight

see this thread https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=125828:rant:

[rocktheroad]

Well, it states that - in the "Market segment" - 8650 series can't do Blu-ray or HDTV... or "isn't available" for such products or what...?!?

Zeini just stated that it is reported that it can record HDTV while one watches an MKV file at the same time...

On the other hand, SMP8634 and SMP8635 can. And we know that Elite and Premium... Well, no need to explain. Except, what was the problem: the motherboard had to be changed, allegedly because of the chipset?


Azbox processor is capable to decode two HD streams, and I guess it has architecture which have dedicated part for that in processor.
But other than that processor is weak for all other general operations.

Modular architecture of AzBox mean that it needs to have two modules running in order to watch TV and MKV. It can handle decoding of two streams, but other stuff may be problem. That is reason why they have capped network speed, because for other purposes processor is not powerful enough and simple transfer via network will overload CPU.

New line of processors is three time faster so it can handle other stuff as well. And if 1.25x HD means it can handle just one HD, it has powerful processor which will take load of 0.75x HD decoding on itself.

On some forums I have read that Sigma has explained that 8634 can handle maximum 720p and one 1080i stream, and it looks like that mean 2x1080i as well... but not sure if it can handle 1080p MKV and 1080i in any combination.... But for start, it would be great to have at least 1080i and DivX capability... Now I have to use WDTV Live if I am recording something...

[zeini]

hfmls wrote - Sigma is great.

I don't think so. Hardware is great. But the drivers are ****. They are not well do***ented. And so the developers have many problems to implemented their source. This is not only a problem by Celrun/Opensat. Also Syabas has big problems with drivers for Popcorn Hours.
I think the biggest problem at AZBoxHD is the API.

[rocktheroad]

BTW, 8630 Series has IDE interface and 8650 has SATA. Maybe that is answer why we are having problems with HDD, and why someone reported that jumper setting for SATA 1 compatibility works...

[digihoe]

I see this box has 2 USB connections one in the front and one in the back... Smartcard in the back seems odd though...

Has someone seen any repport on USB/LAN speed?

Found the firmware here hxxp://medialinktv.net/ seems to run OpenXCAS too with MMP etc.

I guess I don't really have a problem with my AZBox I only want more USB/LAN speed + Multitasking... This box seems to offer that, would have been great with blindscan though...

[scalpel]

I see this box has 2 USB connections one in the front and one in the back... Smartcard in the back seems odd though...

Has someone seen any repport on USB/LAN speed?

Found the firmware here hxxp://medialinktv.net/ seems to run OpenXCAS too with MMP etc.

I guess I don't really have a problem with my AZBox I only want more USB/LAN speed + Multitasking... This box seems to offer that, would have been great with blindscan though...

Tried to get cramfs from it but can't. I get an error. Bad superblock, segmentation fault. Anyone try?

[far451]

Scalpel.
As I have posted before, skip the first 56 bytes and then mount.

dd if=patchmg.bin of=patch.cramfs bs=56 skip=1
mount -t cramfs -0 loop patch.cramfs /SD

where /SD is a mount point.

Very interesting module - many similarities to AZbox.

Are some of these drivers better?

More analysis needed.

[pascha99]

Make a copy of the filesystem,for Win Users...

[scalpel]

I can't unpack cramfs for you with cramfsck tool, it gives me an error don't know why, but also it can be mounted in linux. So you can download a linux Live CD and check without install.

Here is a video with firmware:
http://rutube.ru/tracks/2898550.html?v=d5e718399cd8f8bf10 022be05183c797&autoStart=true&bmstart=10

[far451]

Another forum, pristavka.de, has more information and analysis.

Just google on

Medialink ML 9700 Twin Full HD W-LAN USB PVR

(no quotes needed), and follow the link.

It seems the processor is an SMP8655.

The google translation from Russian is pretty good considering all the technical terminology.

Apologies from previous post: was '-o loop' not '-0 loop'.

[hfmls]

i liked the channel list!!!

[leerock]

who s developing the fw of this thing?
opensat?
it s very azboxish

[goran]

Looks like Celrun capitalising on AZ HD work of theirs... Or not?

[pascha99]

Yes,so it looks like...and now they hope azbox community will make
the support for them.