Ferrari sim card for clones

[mrbleu500]

This new device should be on the market soon, and it promises to bypass the DM sim card crypto for older sims, that are limited to BL72 and below.

It means that you are no longer tied to the older drivers, and can benefit from the improvements made to the video drivers, tuner module driver, and DVB subtitles. And, as it is programmable, when a new BL is released, it can be updated.

These sims work only with patched images, the latest being Dream Elite BH 1.2.4 OE 1.6.

I am getting a couple of samples sent to me from China, so first come, first served, if anyone want to try one out, free of charge. The samples, I am assured, are fully functional, other than not being upgradable, so if you have a BL72 or lower sim, it will be a free upgrade :)

First to post in the thread will get the free sample, NO PM's PLEASE

:respect-051:

[Carp95]

I have a dm800 clone with bl72 sim in it would be happy to test

[hfmls]

i would like this too, but i am from portugal :S

[crappy]

I would like to test this to, I have DM800 sim for BL72

[BE-COOL]

I think that you are talking about SIM 2.01 that allows to use modified images, that have a fake BL75, when in reality it's BL72. This allow you to update drivers easilly, since the dreambox will think you have BL75, but it isn't.


Sláinte.

[mrbleu500]

I think that you are talking about SIM 2.01 that allows to use modified images, that have a fake BL75, when in reality it's BL72. This allow you to update drivers easilly, since the dreambox will think you have BL75, but it isn't.


Sláinte.

No, this is new, different to the Sim 2.01... ;)

[mrbleu500]

I have a dm800 clone with bl72 sim in it would be happy to test

The winner !

Check your pm m8

[Hell-o]

So if its different tell to us the differences because I think people that have sim2.01 can use original drives and etc the same things that you say that this sim do.

[BE-COOL]

So if its different tell to us the differences because I think people that have sim2.01 can use original drives and etc the same things that you say that this sim do.


Same question here :)

[mrbleu500]

I'm waiting until I get the test before posting all the details because I don't have them, all I know is I have been told it IS different, and does work...

Other than that, I'll find out soon enough ;)

Update: "In the box upgradable" is one feature I have been told about...

[Nacla]

Would love to try one please :respect-040::respect-040:

[medmed]

hi

c est tres intéréssant ,
can you give me one to try , thanks
i have dream800 75 clone .

[mrbleu500]

Sorry guys, only one available, and it's been claimed :D

[medmed]

thanks mrbleu500
domage

[mrbleu500]

Ok, my initial findings are positive. Installed the sim, loaded the patched Dream Elite BH 1.2.4 OE6 image, and it booted BL75 no problems.

Picture quality has improved, zapping is quicker, DVB subtitles now working, altogether I'm well impressed.

I'm guessing that guys with sim 2.01 are already seeing this, but I can't make any comparisons. The sim was shipped from Germany not China, and from what I have read elsewhere, several far east clone vendors are offering this as an alternative to sim 2.01. These vendors have said that this sim is a better design than 2.01, as it was developed in Europe, not China(!) and they have been promised better long term stability.

BTW: The BH 1.2.4 image is a pretty good, better than the BH 012 I had previously loaded, so far as I can tell.

Conclusion: If you have an older sim, it is a great update. Don't ask me what it costs, I haven't a clue...

:party:

[keymaster]

Hi
I got mine this morning also and I agree with everything Mrbleu has said, they are great.
thanks
Key

[mrbleu500]

A little bit more info on this card I have picked up:

Sim 2.01 is based on a patched OE15 Linux kernel so limited to the supported drivers, and current USB drivers a flakey.

Ferrari card is based on a hacked BL75 (albeit requiring a patched image), that means you can update the kernel and apply all official driver updates, keeping your clone a fresh as a genuine one ;)

[paul01609]

just spoke to my contact in china $80 for the card seems a bit high for one?

[mrbleu500]

It wouldn't surprise me if DM were behind this card... If they can't kill the clone market, why not make some profit out of it by selling "hacked" sim cards :D

If you have the money available to hack a sim card, as used in phones, and a host of other far more potentially lucrative devices from the investment potential, why restrict yourself to cloned satellite boxes...

[BE-COOL]

It wouldn't surprise me if DM were behind this card... If they can't kill the clone market, why not make some profit out of it by selling "hacked" sim cards :D

If you have the money available to hack a sim card, as used in phones, and a host of other far more potentially lucrative devices from the investment potential, why restrict yourself to cloned satellite boxes...


Don't be surprise, because "clones" and "original" dreambox are made in China with permission of DM, they authorize some manufacturies to produce the "clones", and others the "originals", this way DM can sell dreambox in 2 different markets, 1 for people who don't mind to pay top price, and other for people who don't want to pay that much, is much similiar with what it happens with electronics or automobile sub-brands. Clones and original belong to DM!

Why do you think everyone can sell clones online, and even put ads in google adsense without problems? Either you buy "clone" or "original" your money is going to DM.

The DM500 timeb0mb was a genius play by DM, as well as the timeb0mb they had put before in Magic CAM, in this way people had to buy another DM500 clone, this time with original MAC adress eheh.

In topic, you can't use SIM 2.01 in old clone, but you can use Ferrari SIM, and you can even update it by a plugin in you dreambox.


Dream Multimedia just pretend they are after clones, but in reality they aren't, because they are the ones who sell them, they are sooo smarttttttt :reddevil:

[chrisuk76]

Don't be surprise, because "clones" and "original" dreambox are made in China with permission of DM, they authorize some manufacturies to produce the "clones", and others the "originals", this way DM can sell dreambox in 2 different markets, 1 for people who don't mind to pay top price, and other for people who don't want to pay that much, is much similiar with what it happens with electronics or automobile sub-brands. Clones and original belong to DM!

So why do the clones have the inferior tuner?

BTW, has this been fixed yet in the clones?

[paul01609]

had my clone around a year now with no tuner problems

[mrbleu500]

So why do the clones have the inferior tuner?

BTW, has this been fixed yet in the clones?

Yes, a change of tuner has fixed this, now rev-J, most if not all vendors have them now. There was a problem with a loose module on some of the rev-K ALPS tuners (which may have been clones themselves...) which at least one vendor admitted to, and provided a free replacement under warranty.

Mine is a rev-K, and is weak on certain TP's but a line amp has cured this problem.

[chrisuk76]

Yes, a change of tuner has fixed this, now rev-J, most if not all vendors have them now. There was a problem with a loose module on some of the rev-K ALPS tuners (which may have been clones themselves...) which at least one vendor admitted to, and provided a free replacement under warranty.

Mine is a rev-K, and is weak on certain TP's but a line amp has cured this problem.

I should have been more precise, I was referring to the Sly HD channels without having to use an inline amp? Is this what has been fixed in latest version of tuner?

[mrbleu500]

I believe so...

[BE-COOL]

So why do the clones have the inferior tuner?

BTW, has this been fixed yet in the clones?

Because "clones" can't be exactly the same as the "original" ones, if they were, people wouldn't pay more for "original". The same thing happens in automobile sub-brands, one brand for better quality, and other for worse, still they belong to the same company...

New DM800 is comming, then DM will allow clones of the old DM800 be better.

[mrbleu500]

Looking at the price charged by the clone vendors, I don't think that DM are making much money if they are behind the manufacture of these boxes.

If they get more than $15 a box, I'd be surprised...

While at $80 - $90 for this new card, which costs peanuts to produce, is a real money spinner.

[mrbleu500]

I have been told that this new card will be available in 2-3 weeks, the one I have is just a beta, and is not upgradeable :(

If it was less than £50 I'd be very interested...

[keymaster]

Hi
I was led to believe they were slighlty more than half that price m8.
Key

[mrbleu500]

£20 ($32) is the confirmed figure I've got ;)

[keymaster]

Hi
Same here, m8
Key

[sonic1]

@mrbleu500
Have you tested this with OE 1.6 ? there was a new Second stage released yesterday v 76

[Tinface40]

have i missed the trials for ferrari sim, i have sim2.01 atm running de 1.6

:bowing-036:

i am in the u.k

[mrbleu500]

@mrbleu500
Have you tested this with OE 1.6 ? there was a new Second stage released yesterday v 76

I'm running DE BH 1.3 OE1.6 at the moment, seems fine to me :)

UPDATE:
Checking the tool for creating Ferrari patched images, it uses hacked second stage and vmlinux binaries. These are the only files changed.

[mrbleu500]

Just had a mail from these guys, it will be 3-5 weeks before the card hits the market, and a site has been setup to handle sales.

There isn't much on there yet, but prelim prices have been announced ;)

[rruunneerr]

Sorry for sounding thick, but I'm just trying to get my head around clone Dm800 dreamboxes.

I have an original one, but i'm looking to buy a second one which is a clone one.

I'm just trying to understand the boot loader thing (latest version 75)?

Is this the start up part where you flash the image?

Also why does the clone version have a sim card, what part does this play compared to the original?

Many thanks in advance.

Kev.

[paul01609]

both clone and original have the sim cards its dream medias attempt to prevent clones from been made

[mrbleu500]

If your DM800 is original, it will have a sim card which allows you to load the latest images and drivers without any problems. The sim card is DM's protection system against hardware clones, which works in tandem with the bootloader, which is the software part that is updated by DM when they figure out what the clone sim makers have done.

The clone sim makers are not able to crack the sim's themselves, as they are too difficult to clone, but the software calls to interogate the sim in the bootloader can be isolated and bypassed by hacking the calls made from the kernel, the vmlinux file. This is how the SIM2.01 generation sims work, which work with up to BL74. To make a SIM2.01 based clone work with BL75, the sim needs to be externally reprogrammed in a card reader, plus an updated hacked vmlinux kernel is required, which AFAIK hasn't been done yet.

If you have a SIM2 you can get up to BL72, and BL69 with the original SIM1 clones.

Without a sim which works with the current bootloader (BL76) you cannot update to the latest drivers from DM, or at least the ones which are really critical like the video, tuner and CA. This is also why you have to wait for patched images.

The Ferrari sim is different in it's conception in that it is the result of a BL75 hack, as well as a vmlinux patch. It also is upgradeable in the box unlike the SIM2.01. They have already released a BL76 version for the DM8000 so it's looking like the better option long term.

[Carp95]

Well tested all last week with the ferrari sim ( many thanx mrbleu500 )


Tested on a clone wich had a SIM2 (BL #72)

Image DE BH 1.3 OE1.6

With the SIM2 I had some troubles clearing D+ - ORF and ORANGE, with the ferrari sim no troubles @ all, box is functioning perfect fast and stable.

Anyone with sim2 or lower, if you can get your hands on this sim it's certainly worth the money ( even more if the price is really 32 euro )
Even more when the released version is upgradeble

Many tnx again mrbleu500 for the sim:cup-006:

[imasa]

for "mrbleu500"
Good, I have a dreambox clone seconstage bl 72 and would be very interested in acquiring a "ferrari card" (sim 2.01) to raise it to 75 and 76 bl.
If you currently know where could buy, I would appreciate.

Greetings friend.:cheers2:

[imasa]

Sent you a pm

Thanks I understand that in this place is the card of which we speak!
Ferrari!

A welcome companion.

reopen as'll tackle the card store.

[loveman]

_http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ferrari+sim+card

Open the link from digital-kaos, and in there is the link to a website...

[mrbleu500]

There has been a lot of DDOS attacks on clone related sites recently, could be the reason you can't open it. The three eights site I use a lot has been up and down for the past 2 weeks.

[keymaster]

Hi
How many do you want and for which box? problem was that first ones were not upgradeable - they were test cards....proper ones will be available this week I believe,
no advertising on the forum so PM me for details.
thanks
Key

[bon_gr]

I need one for DM800. Keymaster please pm me cause my post count is still low and I cannot pm..