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passete
27-11-2010, 04:37 PM
Hi,
anyone here with one of these ?

I would like to know, if this new 800 se, have the same problem as my 8000 !
I will explain, can you get more then 60 Clines, working without problems ?
On my 8000, i need to turn ON, both wired and wireless network's !
If i don't turn on Wifi, my Wired connection Goes Down, and if i use only the Wifi, ecm's are to slow.

Maybe someone can confirm ?

Thanks

passete
29-11-2010, 08:27 PM
So, No one here With This new Toy ?
I would like to have the answer, before i order it !

DREAMDIRECT
03-12-2010, 07:11 PM
i have been testing my dreambox DM800se for a few days now. it is working brilliently. i dont loose any internet speed. and no cut off conection on my internet. my old dreambox dm8000 came from ***sat in the uk. is your dreambox dm8000 from europe or from uk. the problem may lie in your internet speed if that is the case then speak to your ISP they might be able to help. hope this this helped m8

passete
03-12-2010, 07:49 PM
i have been testing my dreambox DM800se for a few days now. it is working brilliently. i dont loose any internet speed. and no cut off conection on my internet. my old dreambox dm8000 came from ***sat in the uk. is your dreambox dm8000 from europe or from uk. the problem may lie in your internet speed if that is the case then speak to your ISP they might be able to help. hope this this helped m8

Hi, my Dm comes From DE !
I have ordered the 800se anyway (waiting to be delivered next week), the problem is not internet (i have 7 pc's plus 5 linux receivers connected to home network), they all work fine.

The problem is the dm8000 it self, seem's not happy with to many clines, i have tested and re tested, wired or wireless both goes down after minutes/hours.
Same numbers of lines on my Old dm7020, doesn't seems to cause any cut off or disconnections.
Read on Some boards, that normal dm800 can't handle more then 25/27 clines, don't know if it's true.

Will see if new 800se as the same Limitation after some test's.
Thanks for your experience.

TUT
04-12-2010, 12:11 AM
i have been testing my dreambox DM800se for a few days now. it is working brilliently. i dont loose any internet speed. and no cut off conection on my internet. my old dreambox dm8000 came from ***sat in the uk. is your dreambox dm8000 from europe or from uk. the problem may lie in your internet speed if that is the case then speak to your ISP they might be able to help. hope this this helped m8

Can you please give us a full review of the DM800HD se

norge
06-12-2010, 07:46 PM
I am thinking of getting one myself.

How do you upload the flash loader in this case? Via USB? As there is no RS232 interface.

On top of the box seems as if there is a fan. Is this correct?

Regarding images the ones that work for DM800 are ok? And what about the ones for 8000 model?

Thanks

Killjoy
09-12-2010, 06:53 PM
> How do you upload the flash loader in this case? Via USB? As there is no RS232 interface.

You can use Mini USB with DreamUp loader, or simply via web browser as normal.

> On top of the box seems as if there is a fan. Is this correct?

Correct, a PWM controllable fan is fitted in the top.

> Regarding images the ones that work for DM800 are ok? And what about the ones for 8000 model?

As with any Dreambox the images are made for each box so use ones for the DM800SE only.

norge
10-12-2010, 07:32 AM
So one cannot use this box at the moment as there seem to be no images out yet.

karlpowell
10-12-2010, 10:59 AM
nemasis image works with this box

passete
10-12-2010, 11:05 AM
So one cannot use this box at the moment as there seem to be no images out yet.

There is plenty of images for 800se, just search on the right place.

apriliarsvr
10-12-2010, 04:34 PM
There is plenty of images for 800se, just search on the right place.

and where is the right place..!:respect-050:

passete
10-12-2010, 04:39 PM
Did you Tryed Google ?

I have here about 8 diferents images for 800se.

yeah-rite
10-12-2010, 08:34 PM
come on passete share your wisdom with us all :respect-051: can only find three images which are the 8 or so you have

jimrare
10-12-2010, 11:48 PM
I count 12 up to now. Power of Dreams, Newnigma, LT, LS, Merlin2, SifTeam, EDG Nemesis, Oozoon, OpenPli, GP3 from Gemini, Allrussian and also official DM image. Search for the official forums and you will find all these images.

edit:If you really can't find them, i'll upload them for you in this forum.

apriliarsvr
11-12-2010, 07:01 PM
iv found 12 also... and we need them in our image section so would be much appreciated if you did jimrare.. i would do it meself if i knew how..! :respect-055:

lets hope dreamelite bring one out soon..!! :respect-057: :respect-050:

jimrare
12-12-2010, 03:05 PM
I don't know if you are allowed to upload files. Create a new thread in the image section and press the attachment button. Its a small paper clip button.

apriliarsvr
12-12-2010, 06:25 PM
are we allowed to do it mods.... ?

hda5
12-12-2010, 06:42 PM
Yes, please upload images to the forum guys thats what the image section is there for :)

Thanks.

TUT
13-12-2010, 11:11 PM
Can you use images for DM800HD on DM800HD se ?

apriliarsvr
13-12-2010, 11:29 PM
no apparently not.. :nopity: its something to do with the processor being differant..
:respect-050:

raul
13-12-2010, 11:31 PM
no you can't, go to a firmware developer and look for a specific image for 800SE, like here for example,

_http://newnigma2.to/wbb2/jgs_db.php

TUT
13-12-2010, 11:37 PM
Thanks apriliarsvr

I hope someone can give us a full review

tr8.
18-12-2010, 01:57 PM
Just take delivery of mine, looks great, its to replace my TM9100 that has worked well for many years.Back to DM products.
It is staying in the box for the next few days, will start to play from 22nd when have finished work and got the next 2 weeks off.
So should be able to give a review over the xmas period.

cristimate
21-01-2011, 10:34 AM
Hi,
I would like to know, if this new 800 se, have the same problem as my 8000 !
Maybe someone can confirm ?
Thanks

Hi... I have just bought my new DM800HD SE
Previously I had DM800HD (old).
I am using Wireless Dlink DWL-G122 (which in the past in my old DM worked perfectly for over 1 year).

First impresion is that the machine is very nice, but I have an annoying problem which I have to solve it: PING to my machine: when it starts everything is okay but after some minutes it is growing to 1000-2000ms. and I think (not sure yet) that I am blocking some users too....

Take a look: after I start the DM800SE everything looks fine…
The Ping is in order:
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64 Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64

Afte 3-5-6 min of usage the ping goes crazy…

C:\Users\Cristi>ping 192.168.1.5 -t
Pinging 192.168.1.5 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=1516ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=718ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=2008ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=87ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=907ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=1135ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=47ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=3055ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=1780ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=2861ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=405ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=1294ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=654ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=764ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.5: bytes=32 time=3644ms TTL=64

And I cannot do anything, the CCCam does not respond…
I have tried many images, original image, same problem!

Please help me how to solve this problem. What shall I do? I cannot install cable in my house, I need wireless!

Any idea?

thanks in advance! PAssete?

jimrare
21-01-2011, 11:04 AM
Does it stay like that forever or does it recover back to normal values?

First of all disable CCcam and see if you get similar results. Another possible answer is that it could be interference from some other wireless network nearby or that the wireless channel isn't configured properly. In that case, at your wireless access point, try different wireless channels and see if there is any difference.

passete
21-01-2011, 12:09 PM
Hi... I have just bought my new DM800HD SE
Previously I had DM800HD (old).
I am using Wireless Dlink DWL-G122 (which in the past in my old DM worked perfectly for over 1 year).

First impresion is that the machine is very nice, but I have an annoying problem which I have to solve it: PING to my machine: when it starts everything is okay but after some minutes it is growing to 1000-2000ms. and I think (not sure yet) that I am blocking some users too....

And I cannot do anything, the CCCam does not respond…
I have tried many images, original image, same problem!

Please help me how to solve this problem. What shall I do? I cannot install cable in my house, I need wireless!

Any idea?

thanks in advance! PAssete?

In My case, i Started using my 800se with the cfg from my 7020 (about 120 lines).

Same problem, Cccam stoped after a few minutes, sometimes losing Dcc Connection.

Now i'm using a new cfg (for now i have about 45 lines and growing), everthing is 100% OK.

Will see when the number of lines aproaches 100, to see if i get the same problem.

PS: I don't Use Wireless, Only Wired

cristimate
21-01-2011, 08:17 PM
Does it stay like that forever or does it recover back to normal values?

First of all disable CCcam and see if you get similar results. Another possible answer is that it could be interference from some other wireless network nearby or that the wireless channel isn't configured properly. In that case, at your wireless access point, try different wireless channels and see if there is any difference.

yes... stays forever.
my impresion that on wireless the new DM800HD SE is not suporting same number of lines (almoust unlimited) like DM800HD (old)

I somhow get the fealing that 39-40 are maximum... I will check and because you guys are the only ones on a lot of forums (native language too) who responded me I will give u my feedback
I have for now installed iCVS fresh image, put 10 lines, everything oki
21 lines... looks ok... I will try to see if there with 30 is oki... I have 45 lines in my old config files

keep u posted!

jimrare
22-01-2011, 07:37 PM
Quality is always better then quantity.

cristimate
23-01-2011, 11:38 AM
for me looks that 29 is maximum,.... do not know why but when I put 30 after I force the net or make somthing like removing an externsion or putting it back looks that ping is going crazy as I said.

Please tell me, everybody has this problem or is only my machine?
I can have the posibility to excange if mine is borken...

I have newenigma 3.1.4 from last night...

passete
23-01-2011, 12:31 PM
for me looks that 29 is maximum,.... do not know why but when I put 30 after I force the net or make somthing like removing an externsion or putting it back looks that ping is going crazy as I said.

Please tell me, everybody has this problem or is only my machine?
I can have the posibility to excange if mine is borken...

I have newenigma 3.1.4 from last night...

Are you using a 800se or normal 800 ?
Is a Clone or Original ?

When you say 29 Maximum, is 29 C's plus 29 F's ?

cristimate
23-01-2011, 05:16 PM
it is DM800Se (seccond edition);
Original one. verified

29F + 29 C of course

really I do not know what to do to it; after some hours I see again it is making like this when I ping it

please help me, I think I have a defective unit?

passete
23-01-2011, 06:34 PM
Try with 0 0 0 { 0:0:2 } on your F's or 1 0 0 { 0:0:2 } .

It's Maybe Normal, as the normal 800 as this issue.

cristimate
23-01-2011, 09:33 PM
thanks; I will do that

but with 29 lines? with my old dm800HD (normal) which I sold it everything was oki with 2 0 0 { 0:0:2 }

I will change now for 0 0 0 and see what's the feedback...

snakie
24-01-2011, 09:54 AM
Get Netstumbler or Inssider, install on your pc and have a look hows your wireless signal goes when the problem starts.
If you have a laptop go sit near dm and check it out.
If you have a desktop install one of those usb wifi and move it far from your router/access point.
This somehow will give you a visual explanation if other stations are in the same channel.
Also know that nearby channels can cause interference also.
Example: if your router transmits on channel 6 and its a G or N, it could use 40 mhz bandwidth ,which means the actual transmission is starting from channel 5 and goes up to 7.So any other strong signals on 5 and 7 could lead to instability.
Also the fluorence lights in the house create interference among others.

Another thing is that quality is better than quantity as jimrare said.
You can have a look under CCcam debug to see if you have shares that tend to disconnect all the time and create more traffic.
You must start CCcam with parameters -dvn

cristimate
26-01-2011, 10:58 PM
well... I got tonight the new DM800SE

It looks that If I put my old 45 lines, the new one makes the same crazy ping after a period of time (minutes)

I have drastically decrease the number of active lines to 30 and in ste same time make some lines recived from peers (my C lines) like no { 0:0:1 }

like this I have reduced the hop2 received lines from 2500 to ~1100 just to see the impact

I will leave it for the night and see the impact... it looks that this new DM800 Secc Eddition does not allow you too many lines...

cristimate
02-03-2011, 09:37 PM
hi,

I have arrived to 26 lines, same problem

I have tried everythingm even all lines are 0 0 0 { 0:0:2 }... same problem

what to do? I am disperate

snakie
03-03-2011, 10:54 AM
Did you check any of these i wrote earlier?
For the wifi channel??

cristimate
03-03-2011, 07:13 PM
Another thing is that quality is better than quantity as jimrare said.
You can have a look under CCcam debug to see if you have shares that tend to disconnect all the time and create more traffic.
You must start CCcam with parameters -dvn

Not need to make that with wireless, I have changed 2 wireless router and the same problem

tell me what about starting to CCcam debug. I have dm800se. how to do it?
what to look for?