i see theres a new octagon out "Octagon SF1028P Twin HD - Noblence"

[ManikM]

anyone got any info on it, from what i can gather it doesnt do much more that the 1018 does...?

well, youtube, and web-browsing...hardly worth it

[darrellr]

It has an e-SATA connection, can output at 1080p and has MKV support. All of this points to a better CPU (Sigma?).

On top of that it has swappable tuners so that you can have Cable or Terrestrial tuners instead of Sat ones.

[ManikM]

hmmm hopefully the firmware developments for this one might be compatible with the S4000>


i thought our S4000's could do MKV - who cares so much about 1080i.

[darrellr]

They announced firmware will be compatible and an Enigma2 development is on the way.

[digihoe]

CPU same as SkywayHD Droid maybe, STi7105. It looks identical almost on the backplate.

Best regards!

[ManikM]

They announced firmware will be compatible and an Enigma2 development is on the way.

happy days!

[ColdAsICE]

Its the same as the Icecrypt STC6000 except the UK model with have Terrestrial HD DVB T2 tuner options(I'm not saying the Octagon model won't have this option but its not necessary in Germany).
Its all based the same firmware as the S4000 (you might have wondered why there was a UK terrestrial LCN improvements in the last release, well this refered to the STC6000 not the S4000 or the Octagon SF1018).
It is smaller than the S4000 with a internal 2.5" HDD. It supports MKV's and internet browsing.
The STC6000 should be available in early January at the same time as the Octagon.

[ManikM]

what are LCN improvements mate?

will the browsing \ youtube make it to the S4000?

[Likvid]

Hahaha...that's a IPBOX9900 but packaged in a little different design.

[ManikM]

yes it takes many guises:

Reseller Model Reseller ID Country
Fortis FS-9000 20 00 00 00 Korea
Rebox RE.9000HD 20 01 00 00 Belgium
Octagon SF-1018 20 02 00 00 Germany
HDBox FS 9300 HD 20 03 00 00 Czech Republic
UltraPlus F-9000HD 20 05 00 00 New Zealand
Openbox S8 HD PVR 20 06 00 00 Ukraine
Tiviar F1 HD PVR 20 07 00 00 Switzerland/USA
ICECRYPT S4000HDPVR 20 08 00 00 Great Britain
Atevio AV 7000 HD 20 09 00 00 Germany
Skyway Diamond 20 13 00 00 Russia
Fortis HS-9510 HD PVR 20 00 03 00 Korea
Rebox RE.4000HD PVR 20 01 03 00 Belgium
Octagon SF-1008 20 02 03 00 Germany
HDBox FS 9100 HD 20 03 03 00 Czech Republic
UltraPlus 980 HD 20 05 03 00 New Zealand
Openbox S5 HD PVR 20 06 03 02 Ukraine
Tiviar S1 eco HD PVR 20 07 03 00 Switzerland/USA
Optibox Koala HD 20 15 03 00 ?
Atevio AV 700 20 09 03 00 Germany
Skyway Classic 20 13 03 00 Russia

[bibo_norway]

ok, but maybe this better when use cccam? 918\1008\1018 as now have som freeze trouble on cccam ?

[Friendly-Face]

This is just another Fortis Label boxes. nothing new there in terms of beter software i guess.

[Likvid]

This is just another Fortis Label boxes. nothing new there in terms of beter software i guess.

What do you mean? it runs Enigma2.

STI chipset is famous for having excellent PQ, question is if Enigma2 runs good on this box or if there are many dirty hacks to make it work...

[Likvid]

Its the same as the Icecrypt STC6000 except the UK model with have Terrestrial HD DVB T2 tuner options(I'm not saying the Octagon model won't have this option but its not necessary in Germany).
Its all based the same firmware as the S4000 (you might have wondered why there was a UK terrestrial LCN improvements in the last release, well this refered to the STC6000 not the S4000 or the Octagon SF1018).
It is smaller than the S4000 with a internal 2.5" HDD. It supports MKV's and internet browsing.
The STC6000 should be available in early January at the same time as the Octagon.

I tried to Google STC6000 but didn't come up with anything except your post, you don't happen to have any picture of how it looks?

[Friendly-Face]

i mean nothing, but if box is comming from Fortis then i for one know the answer :-)

Yes Picture Quality is Awsome on this ST boxes.
I hope that Fortis is giving a bit more support to this boxes and the OEM providers get some sort of beter support from them.




What do you mean? it runs Enigma2.

STI chipset is famous for having excellent PQ, question is if Enigma2 runs good on this box or if there are many dirty hacks to make it work...

[ColdAsICE]

Hahaha...that's a IPBOX9900 but packaged in a little different design.

Likvid my fellow pimper your wrong!
The Icecrypt STC 6000 and its Fortis reseller friends are a completely new product.
The AB IPBOX9900 has been around for a while now it has a slower ST processer. Its an Enigma 2 driven machine from a different manufacturer.
If you don't know the difference then it would be better to say nothing. Your only confusing ManikM into thinking he can load Cuberevo software into his Icecrypt.....lol!
As for Icecrypt STC6000 details from your google search then you heard it here first!
The details will be on the Icecrypt website soon but its still going through pre-release product testing.
Octagon don't do this, they create the demand first with publicity then fix the machine.

[joshjess]

The Octagon SF1028p is £349.00 without a HDD is now on the famous auction site

[ColdAsICE]

The Icecrypt STC6000 will be cheaper, without buying from dodgy auction sites.

[Likvid]

Likvid my fellow pimper your wrong!
Its an Enigma 2 driven machine from a different manufacturer.


So what CPU from ST does it have? you don't even mention what core frequency it's running at, even Octagon hides that in their specs.

What is the other manufacturer you are talking about?

Enigma2 won't succeed on ST platform if you haven't done better with your relationship with ST giving out source code.

What teams are working on it now?

[Likvid]

Its the same as the Icecrypt STC6000 except the UK model with have Terrestrial HD DVB T2 tuner options(I'm not saying the Octagon model won't have this option but its not necessary in Germany).


Octagon SF1028P is already on market and the DVB-T2 tuner for it is already on the market so you are a bit too late now i guess...

[reboot]

So what CPU from ST does it have? you don't even mention what core frequency it's running at, even Octagon hides that in their specs.

What is the other manufacturer you are talking about?

Enigma2 won't succeed on ST platform if you haven't done better with your relationship with ST giving out source code.

What teams are working on it now?

What drugs are you on?
ColdasIce just mentioned that the Fortis boxes are not the same as the Cuberevo that you claimed!
If this is the best reply you have then go and clutter up some other forum its not helpful or informative simply confrontational.

[ColdAsICE]

Octagon SF1028P is already on market and the DVB-T2 tuner for it is already on the market so you are a bit too late now i guess...

Really! Your free to purchase the Octagon if you wish of course.
Not sure they have actually got it fully on the Market.
Don't believe all the publicity.
Ask them if they have the T2 Tuner fully working with UK Terrestrial etc.
Always better to look after your own Market first and in Germany that's Satellite delivered not terrestrial and not T2.
The UK terrestrial is very different from the rest of Europe/World.
Being first to Market the same product doesn't mean anything if the product doesn't function correctly.

[darrellr]

FWIW the OEM manufacturer, Fortis, is calling it a "HX-8200HD".

[Likvid]

Really! Your free to purchase the Octagon if you wish of course.
Not sure they have actually got it fully on the Market.
Don't believe all the publicity.
Ask them if they have the T2 Tuner fully working with UK Terrestrial etc.
Always better to look after your own Market first and in Germany that's Satellite delivered not terrestrial and not T2.
The UK terrestrial is very different from the rest of Europe/World.
Being first to Market the same product doesn't mean anything if the product doesn't function correctly.

It's already on the market.

No you are wrong, why don't you find out the facts first?

I have talked to the German distributor yesterday and the all tuners are shipped to dealers who had backorders already.

There are several people who already gotten their receivers from their dealer yesterday

I really don't care about UK terrestrial as i don't live there, the german market is larger than Germany, we have northern Italy, Austria, Lichtenstein and major parts of Switzerland which are german speaking areas.

[darrellr]

The bit I was most interested in was the 1080p spec and the mention that the firmware would be compatible.

I've had a dig around and it appears that the current S4000HD has an ST40 SH4 based STi7101 chipset which according to the spec.pdf is restricted to 1080i by hardware so I guess, regardless of firmware, I'm 'stuck' with 1080i only. Not that this is a big deal.

The new box has a Sti7105 Chipset which has a hardware 1080p and VC-1 capability (NB. the new STi7106 adds gigabit ethernet!).

The new model names appear to be: Fortis HX-8200 HD PVR, Octagon SF 1028P Noblence, Atevio AV 7500 HD PVR, Icecrypt STC6000HDPVR, Openbox S9 HD PVR

NB. The new model has 256MB RAM/64MB ROM compared to the current 192MB/32MB.

[darrellr]

What drugs are you on?
ColdasIce just mentioned that the Fortis boxes are not the same as the Cuberevo that you claimed!
If this is the best reply you have then go and clutter up some other forum its not helpful or informative simply confrontational.

Not that it makes much difference but having just had a nosey round re. CPUs it appears the Cuberevo/IP Box platform uses the same ST40 CPU based chipset as the Fortis ones (STi710x). The IPBox 9000 has a STi7101 and the new IPBox 9900 has an STi7105.

Whilst I guess there will be enough implementation differences to make firmware incompatible they are hardware equivalent.

[ColdAsICE]

It's already on the market.

No you are wrong, why don't you find out the facts first?

I have talked to the German distributor yesterday and the all tuners are shipped to dealers who had backorders already.

There are several people who already gotten their receivers from their dealer yesterday

I really don't care about UK terrestrial as i don't live there, the german market is larger than Germany, we have northern Italy, Austria, Lichtenstein and major parts of Switzerland which are german speaking areas.

What facts are you referring too.
The fact that this receiver is not a Cuberevo?....It isn't
The fact that the T2 LCN in the Octagon does not work correctly in the UK?...It doesn't.
The fact that all the terrestrial broadcasts in all the countries you have mentioned are not in DVB T2 except for Italy so why have you mentioned them?
As far as I know Italy is not connected to Germany in any way since the second world war and it seemed to be an unhappy relationship even then.
Opps did I mention the War....Sorry it won't happen again Mr Faulty.
You are right that the German Market is far larger than the UK so why are you on a UK site, looking at the Icecrypt section, and making snide remarks.

Can we stop this thread now its has become a boring mud slinging contest.

[ColdAsICE]

The bit I was most interested in was the 1080p spec and the mention that the firmware would be compatible.

I've had a dig around and it appears that the current S4000HD has an ST40 SH4 based STi7101 chipset which according to the spec.pdf is restricted to 1080i by hardware so I guess, regardless of firmware, I'm 'stuck' with 1080i only. Not that this is a big deal.

The new box has a Sti7105 Chipset which has a hardware 1080p and VC-1 capability (NB. the new STi7106 adds gigabit ethernet!).

The new model names appear to be: Fortis HX-8200 HD PVR, Octagon SF 1028P Noblence, Atevio AV 7500 HD PVR, Icecrypt STC6000HDPVR, Openbox S9 HD PVR

NB. The new model has 256MB RAM/64MB ROM compared to the current 192MB/32MB.

Nice bit of Homework you have done Darrellr.
The compatibility of the firmware between the present range and future machines are controlled by loader ID's don't forget.
I mentioned that they are the same GUI and layout but the newer machines will take advantage of the extra memory and added funtionality of course.

[Q8SAT]

شكرا لك

[ManikM]

nice comment

[darrellr]

Q8SAT said "thankyou" in Arabic (Shokran lak or something like when using roman characters)

[darrellr]

Looks like their has been a patch released to provide cable and terrestrial functionality.

Octagon HD SF 1028P HDTV - NOBLENCE V1.08.75 (29/12/2010)

Changes :

- Important : SW Version based on V10865
--> update files for SF1008, SF1008SE and SF1018 will be released soon !

- Upgrades & Imporvements for DVB-C & DVB-T2 Tuner parts :
--> EPG DVB-C
--> Database Index (DVB-S2, DVB-C and DVB-T2)
--> TP Database
--> OPEN EPG (UK + Australien)
--> Recording file name of Timer recording fix. (previous event name -> right event name)
--> DVB-C Cable, Recording other QAM mode enabled
--> DVB-C Cable, Skip EPG data during scan fix.
--> DVB-C & DVB-T Tuner Driver

Note : YouTube and Internet-Browser preinstalled !

[samylyes2304]

does this mean that we will have Youtube & Internet browser soon in the icecrypt ?

[ColdAsICE]

does this mean that we will have Youtube & Internet browser soon in the icecrypt ?

If you mean the Icecrypt S4000, then No thats some of the extra functionality of the STC6000.

I've held back the release of this firmware for the STC6000 as it messes up the UK part.
The UK terrestrial LCN and Open TV EPG doesn't work.

[ManikM]

The bit I was most interested in was the 1080p spec and the mention that the firmware would be compatible.

I've had a dig around and it appears that the current S4000HD has an ST40 SH4 based STi7101 chipset which according to the spec.pdf is restricted to 1080i by hardware so I guess, regardless of firmware, I'm 'stuck' with 1080i only. Not that this is a big deal.

The new box has a Sti7105 Chipset which has a hardware 1080p and VC-1 capability (NB. the new STi7106 adds gigabit ethernet!).

The new model names appear to be: Fortis HX-8200 HD PVR, Octagon SF 1028P Noblence, Atevio AV 7500 HD PVR, Icecrypt STC6000HDPVR, Openbox S9 HD PVR

NB. The new model has 256MB RAM/64MB ROM compared to the current 192MB/32MB.

Darrell, thought you might be interested in this...

i installed E2 today - the latest AAF MME version - and guess what, it gives u a choice of resolutions during initial setup...

i chose 1080p, and it accepted and displayed it fine...

so the hardware CAN do it.

[darrellr]

Darrell, thought you might be interested in this...

i installed E2 today - the latest AAF MME version - and guess what, it gives u a choice of resolutions during initial setup...

i chose 1080p, and it accepted and displayed it fine...

so the hardware CAN do it.

The one I posted or newer? Where did you download?

The CPU specs specifically state 1080i max so this would be incredible.

[ManikM]

The one I posted or newer? Where did you download?

The CPU specs specifically state 1080i max so this would be incredible.

ive posted it mate...

maybe its stating 1080p, but really its only 1080i......?

[snakie]

Whats does your tv reports when you select 1080p?
Usually tv has an info button displaying the resolution or resolution mode and frequency on their hdmi input.
Also how does the picture look on fast movement scenes like football?

[ManikM]

Whats does your tv reports when you select 1080p?
Usually tv has an info button displaying the resolution or resolution mode and frequency on their hdmi input.
Also how does the picture look on fast movement scenes like football?

i just tried the different resolutions...

i switch from 720i to 1080i to 1080p and my TV reported them as being the corresponding resolutions.

therefore when i selected 1080p it changes to 1080p, and drops to 24Mhz (instead of 50Mhz) - but the TV nonetheless reports the signal as 1080p

RESULT?!