View Full Version : 800se First Impressions
passete
20-12-2010, 12:31 PM
Received The Baby This Morning !
Flashed Via Web interface, and rebooted :
1st : Bug, Get a nasty Error message "2nd failed", Started Sweting hard, Webif don't Work.
Make some google search, and founded the solution, reflashed with Dreamup and original Image.
Again with Webif Installed last Icvs Image, This time all Ok (Ouff..)
2nd : Card readers are inverted, Lower Slot is /dev/sci1 and Upper is /dev/sci0, Well spended a few minutes to realise it.
Now i'm trying to get 2 Smargos working, 2 internal card's are Working.
Here some Photos:
Package:
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4449/dsc01740s.th.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/dsc01740s.jpg/)
Internal hardware:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7524/dsc01741m.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/dsc01741m.jpg/)
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/29/dsc01742q.th.jpg (http://img571.imageshack.us/i/dsc01742q.jpg/)
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/3172/dsc01743e.th.jpg (http://img560.imageshack.us/i/dsc01743e.jpg/)
And For Funny, The Father and the Son:
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/5508/dsc01748c.th.jpg (http://img375.imageshack.us/i/dsc01748c.jpg/)
sonic1
20-12-2010, 12:56 PM
Looks good m8, how does it perform?
Boot up speed, zap speed etc ?
haji24
20-12-2010, 01:01 PM
nice images and yes the fater one is the best keep us update on the DM800 SE for any improvement
passete
20-12-2010, 01:53 PM
I'm still testing, Boot Time is Much faster then 8000.
Zap is prety fast, as usual.
Testing Others Images
PS: Smargo still NOT ok.
passete
20-12-2010, 03:22 PM
Boot time, exactly 60 seconds, 2 times faster than 8000, at least !
Smargo's Working ...
haji24
20-12-2010, 06:41 PM
thats impresive is it worth buy one as i have DM500HD DM8000
passete
20-12-2010, 06:46 PM
thats impresive is it worth buy one as i have DM500HD DM8000
Yeah, for sure mate, for the Price Diference, 800se is more interesting than 500hd.
Smargos Working on Icvs image with gemini plugin.
I'm geting a prety ecm time on internal reader (oscam/cccam) :
system: Viaccess
caid: 0x500
provider: ORANGE TV (13E)
provid: 0x32920
pid: 0x212
using: newcamd
address: 127.0.0.1:25001
hops: 0
ecm time: 0.095
haji24
20-12-2010, 07:41 PM
i think i buy one after new year. have you test it on 3D yet
passete
20-12-2010, 10:19 PM
No Problems On 3D Channels, But i don't have any 3D Tv, and Not in a Hurry to Buy One.
Channel Change is Just Amazing, faster than 7020, Impressive.
No Problems On 3D Channels, But i don't have any 3D Tv, and Not in a Hurry to Buy One.
Channel Change is Just Amazing, faster than 7020, Impressive.
hi m8
what do u think is faster and now that u have both DM800SE & DM8000 between the 2 which u recomend us to get?? :king-042:
passete
20-12-2010, 11:06 PM
hi m8
what do u think is faster and now that u have both DM800SE & DM8000 between the 2 which u recomend us to get?? :king-042:
Well mate, the 8000 stil The King For me !
If you have the €$£, take Both :D
Serious, i thing that 800se is enough to Play it.
Well mate, the 8000 stil The King For me !
If you have the €$£, take Both :D
Serious, i thing that 800se is enough to Play it.
tanks m8
im going for the dm8000 them.
i have now a dm800s.
im going for the big dad:king-042:
passete
21-12-2010, 12:01 AM
Good Choice, your 800 will Look Like a Toy !
Only regret, is that Bluray drivers Still Not Available for Linux, as i've installed a BD player on 8000.
dm800SE has a better/faster processor than dm8000, don't get the overpriced/aged 8k, for half the price 800SE is a much better option !
dm800SE is the only complete dm worth it's money ....
passete
21-12-2010, 12:19 AM
I don' agree with your last sentence ...
For the money, 8000 is much Better, 800 is a Litle toy Compared, and for half price of 8000, you get a "Miniature" of 8000 (4 times Smaler) and Big is Better.
Well, if you wait some more month's, you will get a better/faster proc, and if you wait a couple of Years, you will be dead :D and don't see the new better2/faster2 processor.
Just Kiding :D
i know you are kidding :) , tried them all dm800SE rules at least for the moment !
nevermind tomorrow ;)
apriliarsvr
21-12-2010, 12:41 AM
I'm still testing, Boot Time is Much faster then 8000.
Zap is prety fast, as usual.
Testing Others Images
PS: Smargo still NOT ok.
which other images have you tried so far passete..! :respect-050:
i can't speak for passete, but here a dm800SE and newnigma2 is a perfect combination,
http://www.newnigma2.to/wbb2/hmportal.php
haji24
21-12-2010, 12:54 AM
tanks m8
im going for the dm8000 them.
i have now a dm800s.
im going for the big dad:king-042:
good move you wont regret it
i would rather get TWO dm800SE's for the same price :)
apriliarsvr
21-12-2010, 12:56 AM
i can't speak for passete, but here a dm800SE and newnigma2 is a perfect combination,
http://www.newnigma2.to/wbb2/hmportal.php
i think thats the one il be putting on first...:respect-040::respect-055:
its in the image section already..
haji24
21-12-2010, 01:17 AM
No Problems On 3D Channels, But i don't have any 3D Tv, and Not in a Hurry to Buy One.
Channel Change is Just Amazing, faster than 7020, Impressive.
is it possible to use DM8000 and DM800 on motorised dish and what do i need to do to make it work
jimrare
21-12-2010, 10:11 AM
Yeah, for sure mate, for the Price Diference, 800se is more interesting than 500hd.
The only extra features the 800se has compared to the 500hd, is an extra card reader, the ability to install an internal hdd (both can take an external hdd), 2 usb ports and a colour oled display. I don't think these differences are worth 130 quids.
Both have the same processor and the same memory and to me this is what counts most.
passete
21-12-2010, 11:26 AM
Never will be interested on 500hd !
@apriliarsvr
Tested Newnigma2, Icvs, Nemesis, Peter pan, Snowflake, LT.sixth, Original 3.0.3, OoZooN .
For Now my favorites are : Icvs, LTsixth and Newnigma2, Nemesis 2.0 is not bad.
apriliarsvr
21-12-2010, 12:42 PM
Never will be interested on 500hd !
@apriliarsvr
Tested Newnigma2, Icvs, Nemesis, Peter pan, Snowflake, LT.sixth, Original 3.0.3, OoZooN .
For Now my favorites are : Icvs, LTsixth and Newnigma2, Nemesis 2.0 is not bad.
nice one m8.. :respect-applause-00 im hoping that my box is just a day or two away..!!:respect-050:
im using now last CVS from DMM 3.0.3 with gemini blue panel plugin and shamann® HD Glass skin all working perfect. not a single problem, using since the image came out
had mine deliverd saturday, it's in the box till 22nd when have time to start the switch from tm9100 to dm800hd-se.
What image works best with white card if you use one, or what image do you recomend start with?
I recieve dutch, german, spanish, french and italy. how is it with cccam?
which prog are you using on pc, as not had DM for many years use dcc 2.94 currently on tm will that work as used to it?
Thanks
apriliarsvr
23-12-2010, 10:34 AM
had mine deliverd saturday, it's in the box till 22nd when have time to start the switch from tm9100 to dm800hd-se.
What image works best with white card if you use one, or what image do you recomend start with?
I recieve dutch, german, spanish, french and italy. how is it with cccam?
which prog are you using on pc, as not had DM for many years use dcc 2.94 currently on tm will that work as used to it?
Thanks
1/ dreamelite image is the best so far imo :woohoo-022:
2/ works fine with 2.1.4:cup-006:
3/ for your pc use dcc v2.96:respect-020:
hope this helps TR8 :respect-050:
passete
23-12-2010, 11:57 AM
had mine deliverd saturday, it's in the box till 22nd when have time to start the switch from tm9100 to dm800hd-se.
What image works best with white card if you use one, or what image do you recomend start with?
I recieve dutch, german, spanish, french and italy. how is it with cccam?
which prog are you using on pc, as not had DM for many years use dcc 2.94 currently on tm will that work as used to it?
Thanks
Image : Icvs (go to plugins, install gemini Plugin) Or Dreamelite 1.0 (Need to add addons server manualy)
Install Cccam 2.1.3 - No BackDoor (possible from addons on Both images)
Install Dcc Enigma2 V1.20, you can also use Older versions for Enigma1 (Dcc 2.96)
Good Playing with New Toy :D
Montyboy
23-12-2010, 04:22 PM
Hello everyone
Just tried to flash my new DM800se using the same method as I flash my DM800, but it does not show the ip address in the lcd. Is there a special way to flash the new DM800se ??
Thanks in advance Montyboy
apriliarsvr
23-12-2010, 04:51 PM
Hello everyone
Just tried to flash my new DM800se using the same method as I flash my DM800, but it does not show the ip address in the lcd. Is there a special way to flash the new DM800se ??
Thanks in advance Montyboy
nope... its just the same..! :respect-050:
Montyboy
23-12-2010, 05:05 PM
nope... its just the same..! :respect-050:
Look like ive got the problem one:frown:
Thanks Montyboy
Well its running and I do like it.
Boot speed is ok not as fast as thought it would be.
Feeds to my spiderbox ok as well
Started at lunch time flashed ICvs as recomended, then plugins ( some to go yet) and cccam214.
Card running ish as one says he is not getting it but others all ok so think its him.
recieving all but italy card, and its same chap!!
Put in some sats, not great as had to scan each sat then clean up the dross, still a few sats to go, you forget how long it take to make you own list.
Found it took a bit to remember some things as not done a fesh loads for a couple of years.
Not so sure about the fan on top seems strange to me, why not at back?
over all I am impressed , more to do tomorrow including H/Drive
passete
23-12-2010, 07:07 PM
Look like ive got the problem one:frown:
Thanks Montyboy
Turn Of rear switch, Press and keep pressed front buton, turn ON, Wait until "stop" message, release front buton.
If not working, use Dreamup with Mini usb cable.
passete
23-12-2010, 07:13 PM
@tr8
Run Dreamset 2.32, go to "setup", enter ip user and pass, on firmware choose "enigma2 http ...", press test, if OK press "save"
Now got "new" tab and choose internet settings (use k i n g of s a t), thick the cases for the satelites you want, press download, when finish press exit.
Go to "Transfer" tab and press "write" !
Voila, your own settings, actual and in few seconds.
Montyboy
23-12-2010, 07:38 PM
Turn Of rear switch, Press and keep pressed front buton, turn ON, Wait until "stop" message, release front buton.
If not working, use Dreamup with Mini usb cable.
Thanks passete
I have done the above as I have always done with my 800 but with the 800se all I get is "dhcp" but no ip address. I am trying to find a "how to" with dreamup as I have never used this method before.
Thanks Montyboy
passete
23-12-2010, 08:08 PM
Remove any Usb atached, if still don't work, remove internal hdd !
If no sucess, i will explain how to with dreamup, but first remove everything atached to 800se.
haji24
23-12-2010, 08:13 PM
Hello everyone
Just tried to flash my new DM800se using the same method as I flash my DM800, but it does not show the ip address in the lcd. Is there a special way to flash the new DM800se ??
Thanks in advance Montyboy
Log in tour router then attached device then u will see the IP
Montyboy
23-12-2010, 10:11 PM
Remove any Usb atached, if still don't work, remove internal hdd !
If no sucess, i will explain how to with dreamup, but first remove everything atached to 800se.
Thank you, I will take the HDD out tomorrow and report back:respect-050:
Montyboy
Thank you, I will take the HDD out tomorrow and report back:respect-050:
Montyboy
Hi
I loaded mine without h/Drive and have found it fairly easy.
I am going to fit a WD Scorpio Blue 750GB 2.5" HDD SATA 3GB/s today now not sure if worth the risk as have pvr in systemn.
What drive did you fit?
Montyboy
24-12-2010, 12:31 PM
Hi
I loaded mine without h/Drive and have found it fairly easy.
I am going to fit a WD Scorpio Blue 750GB 2.5" HDD SATA 3GB/s today now not sure if worth the risk as have pvr in systemn.
What drive did you fit?
I took the hard drive out this morning and tried to flash, but still no joy.
I hope passete will let me know how to use dreamup.
My hard drive is a WD Scorpio blue 500GB 2.5 sata.
Montyboy
passete
24-12-2010, 12:40 PM
I took the hard drive out this morning and tried to flash, but still no joy.
I hope passete will let me know how to use dreamup.
My hard drive is a WD Scorpio blue 500GB 2.5 sata.
Montyboy
here we go :
Download the 2 files
Install the Driver "CP210x.." and note the com port, disconnect power with rear switch (connect mini usb), run dreamup, select comport, connect (when asked, turn on dm), choose image and flash, disconnect usb and reboot.
It's a bit long, about 10 minutes.
PS: you need a usb to mini usb cable
Montyboy
24-12-2010, 01:38 PM
here we go :
Download the 2 files
Install the Driver "CP210x.." and note the com port, disconnect power with rear switch (connect mini usb), run dreamup, select comport, connect (when asked, turn on dm), choose image and flash, disconnect usb and reboot.
It's a bit long, about 10 minutes.
PS: you need a usb to mini usb cable
Done everything as above, but it seems to be stuck at calculating checksum for 20 minutes now, how long should I wait?
Montyboy
passete
24-12-2010, 01:43 PM
This not Normal, Should work strait away !
Don't select network on dreamup .
Hope that your Box is not corrupted.
Start again, remember, remove all connected devices (include hdd)
If still nothing :
Go to extras, and choose "recover bad sectors"
Montyboy
24-12-2010, 02:08 PM
This not Normal, Should work strait away !
Don't select network on dreamup .
Hope that your Box is not corrupted.
Start again, remember, remove all connected devices (include hdd)
If still nothing :
Go to extras, and choose "recover bad sectors"
I unchecked the network in dreamup and the file has now loaded, but now it seems to be stuck at flashing from memory. Will it say done when everything is finished? Montyboy
passete
24-12-2010, 02:15 PM
Yes, should have message "ok" or something like that !
Seem's that you need to recover bad sectors.
Montyboy
24-12-2010, 04:12 PM
Yes, should have message "ok" or something like that !
Seem's that you need to recover bad sectors.
After trying all day to with dreamup it seems to of had no effect on the box at all, because when I gave up I turned the box on and it booted up with the image it came with inc my settings, so I have now put the GP3 ****** in with ftp and got the blue panel up and running.
Thanks for all your help merry Christmas. Montyboy
passete
24-12-2010, 04:15 PM
Good News mate !
Now you should be able to re use Webif, when need !
I took the hard drive out this morning and tried to flash, but still no joy.
I hope passete will let me know how to use dreamup.
My hard drive is a WD Scorpio blue 500GB 2.5 sata.
Montyboy
Thanks, the fact mine is also a WD Scorpio Blue, makes me think i will wait till after xmas, dont whant it to go down now, its working well with all my freinds, 2 others have now ordered the same to use their end, as we all plan to be HD in Jan,
I hope the other 2 also buy the same unit it worked well with us all having tm9100,
Ps Has anyone confirmed the white card updates ok in the dm800hd-se yet?
Pps My fan has not run yet except at boot-up, seems cool as well is this right? I have plenty of space about and the power pack is well away
Montyboy
24-12-2010, 05:20 PM
Thanks, the fact mine is also a WD Scorpio Blue, makes me think i will wait till after xmas, dont whant it to go down now, its working well with all my freinds, 2 others have now ordered the same to use their end, as we all plan to be HD in Jan,
I hope the other 2 also buy the same unit it worked well with us all having tm9100,
Ps Has anyone confirmed the white card updates ok in the dm800hd-se yet?
Pps My fan has not run yet except at boot-up, seems cool as well is this right? I have plenty of space about and the power pack is well away
You wont believe this but I had to give it one more go.
Press button on front turn on at the back but still only got dhcp but no ip address but because I know the ip I just tried to see if I could connect to the web interface and hey presto I have now flashed the box with the HDD inside and no problems:respect-067:
I will be trying to setup my white card tomorrow Will let you know.
Now it is a happy Christmas...........Montyboy
pedigree
02-01-2011, 11:49 PM
Hi
Just using an Se for two days now. So far very impressed so far the only complaint is that I miss the lnb loop at the rear.
Pedigree
Just a quick update.
My DM800hd-se has now been running constantly since december 23rd.
It has not had any problems and not one reboot, Its in a private share,( 6 of us) we all have the same unit, all using iCVS, never fitter a HDrive in the end, dont think the fan has ever cut in. Very pleased, would not have believed how easy the change of reciever has gone.
dreambox17
24-02-2011, 12:57 PM
dm800SE has a better/faster processor than dm8000, don't get the overpriced/aged 8k, for half the price 800SE is a much better option !
dm800SE is the only complete dm worth it's money ....
I was thinking of buying dm8000 but this is a turn off are you saying the DM800se is faster with a better cpu
i thought they were both 400 why is the dm800se got a faster boot time should i go for a DM800se
jimrare
24-02-2011, 02:54 PM
The 800se is faster than the 800, the 8000 and 800se have the same speed. The real question is if the cpu can cope with what it is intended to do and the answer in both cases is yes.
You can surf the internet with a 6 core intel i7 processor, the same you would with a single core pentium4.
passete
24-02-2011, 04:22 PM
I was thinking of buying dm8000 but this is a turn off are you saying the DM800se is faster with a better cpu
i thought they were both 400 why is the dm800se got a faster boot time should i go for a DM800se
I own Both Machines, and the 800se is on Faster on Reboot, the rest is the same Speed.
dreambox17
24-02-2011, 05:11 PM
ok thanks for the info
oldfart
24-02-2011, 10:25 PM
Montyboy
if you are still having problems ..
If the flash sticks at a certain percent - this means your box has lost its ip address .. you can get the same problem with using serial cable.
The BEST way - I hav described this a few times on here - is use the web interface.
But you need the ip address of your box
use - 'advanced ip scanner' this looks at your network and tells you what is connected.
Thinking of buying this one! My query is why it has different Images than 800HD? Images for 800HD will not work for 800HD-Se ?
passete
26-02-2011, 08:50 AM
Thinking of buying this one! My query is why it has different Images than 800HD? Images for 800HD will not work for 800HD-Se ?
Simple, if the 800se was the same as 800hd, why calling it 800se ?
Diferent Processor, Drivers, Tuner, etc = Diferent Machine
automan2
02-03-2011, 04:55 PM
I've taken the plunge and just ordered one from our sponsor. So will be busy over the next few weeks setting it up and will be looking here for help no doubt. After a year or more waiting for azbox stable development I've decided to box it up and try dreambox.
passete
02-03-2011, 05:44 PM
I've taken the plunge and just ordered one from our sponsor. So will be busy over the next few weeks setting it up and will be looking here for help no doubt. After a year or more waiting for azbox stable development I've decided to box it up and try dreambox.
For Sure That you will Never Go Back or Regret !
haji24
02-03-2011, 07:38 PM
my cousin bought one, i set it up for him very good box you wont regret it.
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