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moicas3004
10-01-2011, 08:58 PM
After i sayd that old version of tunners didnt work with MEO HD sat high frequencies S2, A friend from another forum ( @ MBOX ) as been curious about the Old DVB-S2 tunners not working good with high signal frequencies and the new ones did , and he as found the reply.

Just place a resistance in the specific Spot.

See the picture

All Credits to Him @Mbox

bulmers
10-01-2011, 10:40 PM
If RA3 & RA4 are marked "333" then their values are 33000 ohms (33k). Not 33 ohms. If they were 33 ohms then they would be marked "330".

Also, these are not regular resistors. They are resistor arrays. Each part contains 4 resistors.

;)

leao6
10-01-2011, 10:54 PM
If RA3 & RA4 are marked "333" then their values are 33000 ohms (33k). Not 33 ohms. If they were 33 ohms then they would be marked "330".

Also, these are not regular resistors. They are resistor arrays. Each part contains 4 resistors.

;)



what our friend mbox said was "just change the two rulers of resistances" which means that each ruler has four resistors as shown in the photo. value 333 may have been wrong. may even be 33 ohms

bulmers
10-01-2011, 11:31 PM
Yes, maybe the text on the photo that says "333" should have been typed "330".

mbox
11-01-2011, 03:36 AM
Sorry, my mistake

The correct value is 33 ohm
The text on the picture should have "330 "

Tunner Mod.
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7148/dsvi011.jpg

bulmers
11-01-2011, 06:01 PM
Thanks for clearing that up mbox :)

kooleracer
11-01-2011, 09:12 PM
How do i know that i have a old tuner? can i check with some command?

moicas3004
11-01-2011, 09:17 PM
if the RA3 and RA4 is 000 then you have old tunner
if RA3 and RA4 is 330 then you have recent tunner

Juka
11-01-2011, 09:32 PM
After i sayd that old version of tunners didnt work with MEO HD sat high frequencies S2, A friend from another forum ( @ MBOX ) as been curious about the Old DVB-S2 tunners not working good with high signal frequencies and the new ones did , and he as found the reply.

Just place a resistance in the specific Spot.

See the picture

All Credits to Him @Mbox
Could this be solved with software?

kooleracer
11-01-2011, 09:48 PM
if the RA3 and RA4 is 000 then you have old tunner
if RA3 and RA4 is 330 then you have recent tunner

I have to old tuner what now?

gtg60
11-01-2011, 10:19 PM
Could this be solved with software?

Good question, I know there were issues with the older tuners for the E2 drivers, so will there be a workaround?

If not, where is a good source for these Resistor Arrays?

moicas3004
11-01-2011, 10:57 PM
i dont know about you guys but, i had old tunner and even that it worked very well with original FW, since o placed E2 Fw in the box, the problem apeared in E2, no MEO sat 30000Mhz Frq. All screen pixelate.

I lost 30€ and bought a new one, problem solved.

It can be solved by software but i dont think the team is going to lose any time with it. The first versions of E2 the picture was good with old tunner but, after some modifications on drivers to acomodate Premium box and elite box newer recivers, the old one started to give the pixelization on screen.

I asked many times for the team to check it but with no sucess. So i bough a new one.

kooleracer
11-01-2011, 10:58 PM
where can you buy eilte dvb-s2 tunners moicas?

gtg60
11-01-2011, 11:37 PM
I lost 30€ and bought a new one, problem solved.

Well for me the Tuners are twice that! And there's no way I'm sinking any more money into this box, except a few quid to change the Resistor Arrays, now anybody got a good source?

moicas3004
11-01-2011, 11:40 PM
where can you buy eilte dvb-s2 tunners moicas?

I bought from my dealer here: Make a google for

lmpcsatelite

killerno
12-01-2011, 02:28 AM
hi,

thanks for the info moicas and mbox.So if i going to change the two RA3 and RA4 resistors to 33 ohm everything gonna be fine?Because i checked one sheet made by opensat and it says that i have to change te resistors and Additionally connect 33pF GND to R27 .
Is it important or only for diablo cam?
thanks!!

[0_o]
12-01-2011, 03:54 AM
i dont know about you guys but, i had old tunner and even that it worked very well with original FW, since o placed E2 Fw in the box, the problem apeared in E2, no MEO sat 30000Mhz Frq. All screen pixelate.

I lost 30€ and bought a new one, problem solved.

It can be solved by software but i dont think the team is going to lose any time with it. The first versions of E2 the picture was good with old tunner but, after some modifications on drivers to acomodate Premium box and elite box newer recivers, the old one started to give the pixelization on screen.

I asked many times for the team to check it but with no sucess. So i bough a new one.

I hope that could be a solution for that, since in past versions of RTi E2 images you had no problem with it!
Maybe is just a little thing to adjust, and team miss that until you notice this post ;)

killerno
12-01-2011, 02:10 PM
hi guys,

any info about connect 33pF GND to R27? Is it necessary to do this or just change the two resistors?I would like to do it today. Pls someone clear it.
thanks!!!

moicas3004
12-01-2011, 03:40 PM
;780987']I hope that could be a solution for that, since in past versions of RTi E2 images you had no problem with it!
Maybe is just a little thing to adjust, and team miss that until you notice this post ;)

Im sure that it is a Software bug, because in Original FW the tunner works good.

I dont think that it is a bug easy to solve, because it would be solved by now.

Anyway, i running a new tunner a few month ago and with it no problems here.

dvlajkovic
12-01-2011, 04:17 PM
I have this bug with original fw, too - i.e. the HD channels in Bulsatcom bouquette @ 39E (dvb-s2 8psk)...

moicas3004
12-01-2011, 04:42 PM
I have this bug with original fw, too - i.e. the HD channels in Bulsatcom bouquette @ 39E (dvb-s2 8psk)...

I didnt. I noticed this at MEO 30W 30000mhz 8psk, but only in E2.

dvlajkovic
12-01-2011, 07:57 PM
So, you watched mentioned HD channels in Bulsatcom @39E via original fw without problems, right?

moicas3004
12-01-2011, 08:01 PM
So, you watched mentioned HD channels in Bulsatcom @39E via original fw without problems, right?

No, i didnt test that satelite.

But if they released that tecnical note and then a tunnernew serie fix, that is probably because some satelites was having troube with tunner.

killerno
12-01-2011, 08:47 PM
Hi,
pls somebody answer to me,is it enough if i change the RA3 and RA4 resistors to 33 ohm.
Everything gonna be fine with teh 0.8W HD chennels?
I dont need connect 33pF GND to R27 as mentioned in Opensat sheet?
Thank you!!

[0_o]
12-01-2011, 09:12 PM
So, you watched mentioned HD channels in Bulsatcom @39E via original fw without problems, right?

Can you test MEO HD channels to see if that happens too??

Thank you

dvlajkovic
12-01-2011, 10:07 PM
Yes, it does happen on Meo HD ch's on my AZ... that's why I'm gonna fix it these days!

moicas3004
12-01-2011, 10:09 PM
Yes, it does happen on Meo HD ch's on my AZ... that's why I'm gonna fix it these days!

so it really is the tunner.

T33
13-01-2011, 12:52 AM
FGS, it's spelled tuner! ;-)

Micha77
13-01-2011, 03:39 PM
I just checked my Elite HD and :bowing-036: I had 330 on RA3 och RA4, so I shouldn't be worried :respect-040:

Carp95
13-01-2011, 04:27 PM
where can you buy eilte dvb-s2 tunners moicas?

You can buy them in Holland too, you know the forum:-)

Just ask coole

They are the same ones as in the Premium model

kooleracer
13-01-2011, 11:43 PM
You can buy them in Holland too, you know the forum:-)

Just ask coole

They are the same ones as in the Premium model

smart innovations is sending me a new tuner with 330. Great support form them.
So people with old tuners contact your importer the will help you for no cost.

gtg60
14-01-2011, 07:35 PM
Anybody got a source for the Resistor Arrays, anybody?

xanadu
14-01-2011, 07:43 PM
FGS, it's spelled tuner! ;-)

But it's a tunner badly spelt if you are travelling at 100mph/Kph watching Bulsat. :D

dvlajkovic
15-01-2011, 11:01 AM
Anybody got a source for the Resistor Arrays, anybody?

Obsolete/out of order PC motherboards...

nstergi
15-01-2011, 11:34 AM
@gtg60

what do you mean?


Do you want to buy 33Ωhm resistor array and you want a link from where to buy?

gtg60
15-01-2011, 02:42 PM
@gtg60

what do you mean?


Do you want to buy 33Ωhm resistor array and you want a link from where to buy?

Even just a place to look, had a search on e*ay and couldn't find anything, maybe I just don't know the proper name of them to search for??

bulmers
15-01-2011, 03:19 PM
No problem ;)

33ohms here

nstergi
15-01-2011, 03:25 PM
check here

_h**p://uk.*******.com/yageo-phycomp/yc124-jr-0733rl/resistor-array-arv341-0804-33r/dp/9235272

or

_h*p://gr.rsdelivers.com/product/bourns/cay10-330j4lf/cay10-convex-chip-resistor-array-33r/5298173.aspx

or _www.digikey.com

or _www.newark.com

kooleracer
15-01-2011, 06:43 PM
Got my new tuner today form **************** (importer azbox in holland) and all my issues are gone. Thor working fine 30W working fine.

I'm a happy man today now only waiting for RC2.

gtg60
15-01-2011, 06:55 PM
Thanks guys, will order some ASAP!