Dreambox DM 8000 HD Would you recomend.

[catoro]

Hi to all, just been looking at the sponsers add for Dreambox 8000 HD STB.
Would appeciate members views on STB.

Have been off net & away from Sat for some time so need to catch up. My
Digital VCR/DVD Combo has to be replaced & old dish moving STB is well
past it's sell by date so have to buy some new equipment.

Want an all in one unit STB,H/Drive, Blu-Ray Recorder & DVDB-T tuner. Have
a quad LNB dish 1.1metre & thinking of getting a Sly sized dish as add on
to use on Astra 2 for FTAir chans. Am hoping I can watch Freeview on fixed
dish & be able to watch multi chan from large dish.

I see it's a problem getting softcams now though don't want CS. But is it
worth the expense for what is available. Still have a Dreambox 7020-s in
loft.


Regards catoro.

[alfred_1]

Hi to all, just been looking at the sponsers add for Dreambox 8000 HD STB.
Would appeciate members views on STB.

Have been off net & away from Sat for some time so need to catch up. My
Digital VCR/DVD Combo has to be replaced & old dish moving STB is well
past it's sell by date so have to buy some new equipment.

Want an all in one unit STB,H/Drive, Blu-Ray Recorder & DVDB-T tuner. Have
a quad LNB dish 1.1metre & thinking of getting a Sly sized dish as add on
to use on Astra 2 for FTAir chans. Am hoping I can watch Freeview on fixed
dish & be able to watch multi chan from large dish.

I see it's a problem getting softcams now though don't want CS. But is it
worth the expense for what is available. Still have a Dreambox 7020-s in
loft.


Regards catoro.

The DB 8000 is a splendid machine. It can incorporate almost everything in it... you name it can take it...HDD - DVD - Cams - Cards - Tuners. etc. But as regards CS I think it part of the game now, plus having LCD or LED TV for the HD Channels. Otherwise I would advice you to forget the DB 8000...no use having this machine (and spending so much) without the added gizmos included.:D

[passete]

Still the "Ferrari" for Now !

But i would consider the arriving of New 7020 Hd this summer.

[paul01609]

Love my 8000 sadly don't do blu-ray

[jimrare]

Before you rush into buying a 8000 or any other linux box, spend some time reading how to set it up. Although the steps required are simple, these boxes are not plug and play, but once you get it running you won't regret it.

[oldfart]

for me - its a full media centre solution!

[brain]

@ jimrare
Quite agree - very different to a 7000, but lots of help from friends here - thankyou guys.
Great picture quality and with HDD and DVD it is a fully integrated machine.Great images - running mine on Peter Pan 2.2 and still all available despite the clampdown. Still lots to learn though for an old man!! cheers - brain

[paul01609]

It's good fun setting them up:)

[oldfart]

It's good fun setting them up:)

takes about 10 minutes now!:confused:

[jimrare]

10 minutes tops for someone how already knows how to do it, but for a few others who can't bother reading its like a lifetime.

[catoro]

Many thanks to all for replies. The 8000 would replace my Panasonic Combo
as it is Video size & has DVB-T tuner available. Have a 32" plasma which is
large enough for our use. It is 1080i but Combo is 1080p but this spec seems
to be compatable. Have read about the differences.

@passete have just been told about 7020 HD which would be better spec
but need to find out if it has dual tuner etc., though gather it will be cheaper.

@jimrare, managed to learn about the DM 7020 Si thanks to many helpful
people.

Am in a slight quandry now due to new models also gather ther is a new a VU
coming but know nothing about those. Blu-Ray am not too bothered about but
would like to get a unit that fits a multi spec to make more compact to save
space & leads as have 2 VCR Combos & 2 STB crammmed in.

Watch a lot of the latest DVDs fom net either from disc or media player so not
short of entertainment & not a football fan & past bothering about ****.

Purchasd a Protek 9750 HD in December, just setup in a few miutes via USB, good quality so long as codes are auto available via net. Only annoyance was
setting up to work using a separaten STB to operate dish that is usually not a
problem. Probably lack of experience !!

Any more comments to above appreciated as may decide to do more research
about new models now.


Regards catoro.

[kooleracer]

I just bought the clarke-tech et9000, its dual tuner and usb dvb-t enabled. Switching channel is fast you can put HDD in. 2 scart plug. I bought it for 389 euro. I never had an dreambox but i think this box can easily be compared with an dm8000. You get 2 tuners pre-installed the box is totaly quiet. I play all my media files so far. its switches really fast form HD to HD and even faster from sd to sd. FTA channels hd or sd switch under 1 sec. Picture quality is really good. I had a Azbox elite hd, but i can say this box picture is much clearer and softer than the Azbox. Go to the shop and test both if the et9000 can do what you want you can easily save 500 euro's, think about what you can do with that kind of money. ET9000 has newer and beter broadcom chip et9000 has 7405 dm8000 has 7400 and et9000 has 512mb mem twice as much as the dm8000 that only got 256mb mem.

Really Happy ET9000 user!

[jimrare]

have just been told about 7020 HD which would be better spec
but need to find out if it has dual tuner etc., though gather it will be cheaper.It will be shipped with 1 dvb-S2 tuner installed and you will have the option to install a second tuner of your choice. Also all latest dreamboxes with a usb port can get a cheap 20 pound usb dvb-t tuner installed. The 8000 has 2 usb ports and the 7020 will come with 3. This means lots of tuners available if you want it with small cost.


ET9000 has newer and beter broadcom chip et9000 has 7405 dm8000 has 7400 and et9000 has 512mb mem twice as much as the dm8000 that only got 256mb mem.
But the 8000 was released in 2009! The 8000 does indeed have the slower 350MHz 7400 chip but that doesn't mean it cannot handle 4 tuners simultaneously plus any extra usb-t tuner.
Also the extra memory is a good upgrade but it will only be handy to those who download extremely many plugins. Its like going for a pc with 16gig of memory while you already have 8gig installed. 8 gig is still enough for ordinary stuff.

Maybe you should also have a look at the 800se or even the 500HD. Do you really need 2 or 4 tuners? Isn't 1 enough with the extra ability of installing a cheap usb-t tuner to get freeview?

[passete]

It will be shipped with 1 dvb-S2 tuner installed and you will have the option to install a second tuner of your choice. Also all latest dreamboxes with a usb port can get a cheap 20 pound usb dvb-t tuner installed. The 8000 has 2 usb ports and the 7020 will come with 3.

My 8000 has 3 external usb's plus one internal, it makes 4 usb port's in total !
And my 800se only 2 usb port's. 7020 Hd will be an interesting choice, but need to wait a few months.

[paul01609]

Ever thought of getting a 8000 clone save a few quid?

[heathercar]

i have had the so called dm 8000 hd genunine box now for 2 years and have recently just bought a clone 8000 hd for spare box in bedroom there is absolutely no difference between the two boxes at all in fact after stripping both boxes down and looking at the build quality of both boxes on both boards the dm8000 clone looks better .

personaly if you asked me dm8000 are not letting on more thsn they know about these so called dm8000 clone boxes ...
picture quality looks good on my panosonic vt20 50 inch 3dtv but not so good on my lg 42 inch plasma..

so dont listen to the crap floating around about the picture quality of the dm8000 it is down to tv and not the box. oh and further more dont listen to the crap about no support for the clones the internet is a wonderful thing

[snakie]

Whatever route you decide to take, original or clone, DM or other brand, just remember that DM is already there,established, doing what is meant to do, with lots of support!

I own the original DM8000,and i usually record 2 channels on it while having another one working on timeshift.
If you have the money, go for it.

[paul01609]

Only as far as I know to watch out for with the clones is some don't come with oled screen so just make shure they do befor ordering

[jimrare]

there is absolutely no difference between the two boxes at all in fact after stripping both boxes down and looking at the build quality of both boxes on both boards the dm8000 clone looks betterThere is always a calculated risk when buying a clone and the clones wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the hard work the developers have offered when building the original.

I choose to spend a few more quid and get an original and refund a new dreambox project, instead of funding the clone mafia leeching from the real developers. There are other cheaper alternatives like the Vu or the CT as already mentioned.

[passete]

i have had the so called dm 8000 hd genunine box now for 2 years and have recently just bought a clone 8000 hd for spare box in bedroom there is absolutely no difference between the two boxes at all in fact after stripping both boxes down and looking at the build quality of both boxes on both boards the dm8000 clone looks better .

personaly if you asked me dm8000 are not letting on more thsn they know about these so called dm8000 clone boxes ...
picture quality looks good on my panosonic vt20 50 inch 3dtv but not so good on my lg 42 inch plasma..

so dont listen to the crap floating around about the picture quality of the dm8000 it is down to tv and not the box. oh and further more dont listen to the crap about no support for the clones the internet is a wonderful thing

Mate, it's your own choice to buy a Clone (money limitations), and i do understand.
But don't fool people saying that is 100% the same hardware, because if it was true, nobody would buy originals.
You have make your choice (good for you), but don't try to make me think that both are the same.

[heathercar]

but don't try to make me think that both are the same.

im all for people making there own mind up but if they want to say my name is simple simon too then fine but unless anyone can acount for every single part that goes on to dm8000 board and say yes that chip or that proscesser is better than a clone or costs more or is more reliable then i am not going to change my mind about there being no difference.. as for performance there is no differnece and as for support plenty of forums do support clones.

[heathercar]

There is always a calculated risk when buying a clone and the clones wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the hard work the developers have offered when building the original.

I choose to spend a few more quid and get an original and refund a new dreambox project, instead of funding the clone mafia leeching from the real developers. There are other cheaper alternatives like the Vu or the CT as already mentioned.

when you say the clone mafia i personaly think you should be saying the dream multimedia mafia just my humble opinion .. but ok lets call them the clone mafia for argument sake are they really as bad as dream multimedia as these mafia boxes would not exsist if dm hadnt made boxes that can pirate pay per view channels :respect-040:

[snakie]

Lol, what the f**k is wrong with you?
You bought an original receiver,doing everything that is meant to do just fine.
Then you got a disappoitment by the receiver because it couldnt do the laundry for you.
Then you try to convince yourself that a clone is better and that you ripped off yourself by spending so much money on the original.
Please dont come here and try to do convince us about same thing.Continue to do it only for yourself.
And by the way, designing a pcb combined with its hardware it one thing,making it working good is another thing and if the software on it can make miracles also is another thing.
Stating that DMM made boxes that can pirate pay per view channels,its just a bad statement.
Look at the sat scene history, read about old receivers and how all started and get some education about it.
Coming here posting some crap information..
As for the picture quality as you say, you have the source, the upscaling ,the build in chips of downscaling and upscaling again on the tv and the ability of the monitor to show the details on its own.
Yes,dm8000 gives a very good picture even on a crappy 32in lcd tv while at the same time other receivers on the same hdmi input give a bad result.
And on my humax 32in lcd it gives me excellent picture,even on upscaled SD channels which on other receivers look out of colour.

[heathercar]

[QUOTE=snakie;784868]Lol, what the f**k is wrong with you?


im grovey woovey:respect-055:

[sonic1]

Everyone here is entitled to his or her opinion and expressing that is fine.

Please all don't over step the mark and lets keep this thread going by helping catoro.
:respect-051:

[jimrare]

when you say the clone mafia i personaly think you should be saying the dream multimedia mafia just my humble opinion .. but ok lets call them the clone mafia for argument sake are they really as bad as dream multimedia as these mafia boxes would not exsist if dm hadnt made boxes that can pirate pay per view channels :respect-040:First of all i never said that the clones won't work the same.

Can we at least agree that dmm has been designing a good piece of hardware since 2003?
Can we agree that the software and drivers developed again by dmm is top quality?
Can we agree that the support has been there since day one?
Can we also agree that the multiple image developers are giving the extra touch to the box?

My personal view is that all these people behind this project should get the credit and if that means i have to pay an extra buck, then i'll be happy to do that. This will make them continue developing new boxes (dmm box count has already reached number 12) and good software (Enigma 2 for example). Clone manufacturers will never design a new box or spend money to develop good software. Thats why i call them mafia.

[catoro]

Thanks again for all replies. In a moment of madness I rang sponsor (Lee) who was very helpful. Hope I've made the right decision but 8000 is ordered
with dvd fitted. Have to go through some of my new drives to pick a quiet
one. Have a spare Itb or 500gb drives to try, need to find out if I have
to reformat to 32bit fat. Never recorded via drive before as use VCR or DVD.
Pity it doesn't take 2.5 drive as could use the 5400 instead of 7000 ones.

Seems the DVB-T tuners are not available at present until the new S2 are
released so have to wait for that. Will have to start relearning about the
Dreamboxs again. Saved all the old info but hope to replace with Win 7
software as mainly running the Ultimate version now. Have removable drives
so leaves a choice to use XP. Am hoping to start by using card memory or USB
stick to start with to save keep reflashing, worked ok in the past. Hope my
memory will do the same !!!

Had a look at TV info today, it has the DVI-D Socket for PC or switch to STB
so it it will give me 1080i. Plenty of inputs to choose from. Noticed the box is
listed as Pal G, hope that can be changed to Pal I though can handle both
hopefully.

Seems a battle started in the thread !!! Main reason for my decision as stated earlier wanted everything in one box & DB have a good reputation though
probably pull more in with the Protek.

Keep the advice coming all appreciated.


Regards catoro.

[heathercar]

[QUOTE=jimrare;784938]First of all i never said that the clones won't work the same.

Can we at least agree that dmm has been designing a good piece of hardware since 2003?
Can we agree that the software and drivers developed again by dmm is top quality?
Can we agree that the support has been there since day one?
Can we also agree that the multiple image developers are giving the extra touch to the box?

i agree my dm8000 looks verry ***y sat on top my pany blueray player sat next to my yamaha amp sat next to my panosonic 3dtv 50 inch yes but does that warrant the high price tag.

i also agree that on div x play back is very good and pq coming from my pany is so so ***y on div x films played back from my dm8000 a must but for people who want a new tv panosonic tx-p50vt20ba.

i reserve judgment on the multiple image developers as quite a few blips on some images

as for support for the box yes it is good and other companys should lead by example shown by dm but i suppose they do have the cash lol.
on the media side of things i would still go for a dm8000 clone over a vu box or other boxes for the same price range.
the dm8000 clone edges it for me for other boxes in the same price range such as div x playback and built in wirless witch the vu lacks.
ok you can buy a wirless dongle i know but i dont like extras and like being able to add tuners etc .
so clones do have there good points and i suppose i wouldnt have bought one if the the dm8000 hd hasnt been such a good box .
other good points are my sly card works very well in dm8000hd and would rather have my card in my dm8000 hd anyday ..

ok just done another test just connected a sly hd box to my new tv to compare pq between dm8000hd and sly box.
while there is a little bit of difference the dm does slightly edge it but any major difference is down to your tv.
sorry if you dont agree but i have tested hundreds and thousand of tvs .
the new lg 3d led is also a good buy at 950 squid

but my opinion will stay remain the same that dm know more than there letting on about dm clones .

I wont change my mind about the to high of a price tag just look at the price of the dm800hd.
I bought that box when it first come out 320 squid what has it shot upto nowwhat a pile of crap it was i had to get shut ..
it was clearly wrong when it first came out on the hardware side of things .
many people bought it.
ok so now there ok and stable but the price as shot up to 420 squid plus way to high if you ask me and dm have a lot to answer for that.
the dm800 when it first came out was awfull i carnt remember how many times i had to switch it on and of.
dm sold thousands witch gave them the money to make that box how it should of been and now they slap that 420 price tag on it.

[THC]

The problem sometimes with freedom of speech is it allows nutcases like heathercar a platform to enforce their delusions on the rest of the world.

Keep taking the tablets.

[heathercar]

:respect-040:

[snakie]

Catoro you can easily add the 2.5" HDD with the help of the metal side adapters like when added in a desktop computer.
here is a link for the metal adapter:_http://www.geeks.com/largePic_All.asp?InvtId=HD-108&Pic=HD-108-unit.jpg
And you can add a cheap usb dvb-t which will give you now the terrestrial channels.

[heathercar]

ok i got a bit sick of the crunching noises coming from my internal hard drive on my original dm8000hd when recording in the living room.
so i have now just taken the hd out and popped it into my dm8000 clone so i could do my recordings upstairs.
wierd thing is the hard drive is no longer making crunching noises now when recording i thought it was a noisey hard drive but obviously not .
mmmm glad i bought this clone now

[jimrare]

The dreambox simply powers the disk... it doesn't create crunchy noises.

We get your point about clones. Its the same thing with forum sponsors. We all know we can find products cheaper through the net, but we choose the forum sponsors so that this forum keeps running and let people like you post all this bu11****.

[Quailman]

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[catoro]

Catoro you can easily add the 2.5" HDD with the help of the metal side adapters like when added in a desktop computer.
here is a link for the metal adapter:_http://www.geeks.com/largePic_All.asp?InvtId=HD-108&Pic=HD-108-unit.jpg
And you can add a cheap usb dvb-t which will give you now the terrestrial channels.

Thanks for the tip snakie will take a look. May have some adapters about or
could make some. Just want to experiment to keep noise level down when
it arrives. Have a spare 500 gb for laptop. Probably wouldn't need high speed
for recording. My old Topfield has a quiet drive in it, unused for recording but
would be IDE. My Laptop has Blu-Ray DVD writer.

Just thought have dual usb unit though don't know how you would get around the software side.
Plus would have another remote is a downside. The add on ones are not that expensive that fit the DB.


Regards catoro.

[snakie]

ok i got a bit sick of the crunching noises coming from my internal hard drive on my original dm8000hd when recording in the living room.
so i have now just taken the hd out and popped it into my dm8000 clone so i could do my recordings upstairs.
wierd thing is the hard drive is no longer making crunching noises now when recording i thought it was a noisey hard drive but obviously not .
mmmm glad i bought this clone now

I can now see how technical you are..
I bet you didnt even use the silicone silencers that come together with DM8000 for the hard drive.
Did you look at them and wonder what they do?
I have my HDD running all the time and i hear nothing from it,it must be that you didnt install it!

[mikie8]

i dont own any original dm's .

im happy with the clones as dm dont make 500's anymore .

i think its a bit unfair that dm do all the design and the clones make the money but thats globalism for you .

if a quiet hard is what you want then many hard drives are advertised as quiet or near silent running . you even have the choice of fully silent , no moving parts in ssd drives or flash drives or interal cf drives .

the consumer has many options . dm has designed it so .

[heathercar]

I can now see how technical you are..
I bet you didnt even use the silicone silencers that come together with DM8000 for the hard drive.
Did you look at them and wonder what they do?
I have my HDD running all the time and i hear nothing from it,it must be that you didnt install it!

i have ran successful buisness in this trade for almost 20 years and still going very strong even through this recession i am not as thick as some people here seem to think i am or suffer from delussions lol .
i have swapped hundreds of hard drive over on satellite recievers.

anyway i dont want to get into a slagging match with anyone and i will stick to my oppinion the the 860.00 price tag is not worth it for this price the box should at least include all the extra tuners plus a hard drive plus a cooling fan.
and concerning the cooling fan alot of the public would not even think to fit a cooling fan . i dont think this is fair on the public and i really think that dream multi media are not to bothered because at the end of the day if there boxes screw up because of over heating problems after a couple of years its more money for them isnt it

and like i said earlier unless someone can account for every single part that goes onto a dm8000 board and say and convince me that there better than the clone then i wont change my oppinion there either.

and further more i really carnt see how companys can get away and have been getting away with it so long mass producing dm800 clones and now dm8000 clones unless dream multi media doesnt have something to do with it.
concerning dream multi media having something to do with the clone market surley by now one of these mass producing company must of been done for it i havent heard anything in the trade . if someone can show me they have then fine i will change my mind about dream not having anything to with the clones

and further more if dream multi media was such a good company dont you think they should of at least offerd call backs for previous f**ked up models they have produced.

[passete]

Yeah, now we all undersand that your are Promoting your Own Clones.

Well, good Luck with your Clones Business, But don't try to convince People that Clones Are Better.

[heathercar]

guess i must work for the mafia too a

[THC]

_http://www.dream-multimedia-tv.de/en/dream-fight-against-copies

[heathercar]

thankyou thc i think its always best that customers should know the truth befor buying a clone one of reasons i mentioned that dm had something to with the clones as it has been mentioned befor on numerous sites but now we know for sure that this isnt the truth. so with the evidence you have posted here now we can all start to talk about the conversation with real hard facts when people say you can save your self a few quid by buying a clone instead of speculation .

people are always coming on here and saying clones are the bee knees.
sometimes to get the truth of the matter you have to kick open a few doors .
so i think we can all now safely say that the parts used in clones will also be cheap copies as now we can all clearly see that dream do not have any part in it at all.

and further more for anyone who may be slighty agrieved by what i have said upto now about the originals im sorry but like you i have been agrieved by everyone saying the dm8000 is a rip of box and just wanted some hard facts to clear things up once and for all .
and further more most topic or dicussions of clones have not been started by me on this forum i am now glad and i now have piece of mind knowing that my original is worth more than my clone witch has agrieved me quite a lot over the last year with people saying one thing and a nother. .
once again thankyou thc

[sonic1]

Start another thread if you want to go down this route but this is not what catoro was asking.

Thread closed so start you own if you want.

@catoro feel free to start a new thread when you get your shiny new box m8 ;)