CAN PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOT THEIR tm800 BACK REPORT IN PLEASE

[noff]

Hi guys.

Am still looking at getting one of these and was wonderinghow everyone who sent them in to Technomate for reflashing (whatever it the term is ) are getting on.

I see the last thread has been closed on this so if we could just have a genuine q&a and no "I told you so" it will be great.

[DARKMAN]

CAN PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOT THEIR tm800 BACK REPORT IN PLEASE


!?
Why you Angry !? by "Caps" i think you should ask politly ...lol

But will be difficut any of members owned Tm 800 to have honest reports...Becuse many of them who start advertising by porpouse or by mistake in this forum have sold in **** for half price or have talk bad thinks on others forum in the please where TM try misleed people....and in this forum they shut up..( I can copypaste if you like all ..lol)

I hope they get act and tell truth one time for ever.... .... .

Haw i says i have no think againt other TM boxes ...But Tm 800 was a big fail from start and the bigest Misleeding Advertise...even after 12months do not do even 50% of what is write in Gift box...

For that TM company is disperate to sell tht box....Just they start in What magazine and reduse price from 259 to 229 ..before the magzine come out now price 199....that mean haw disperate they are just t o rid of this box from their hends...For facts.

[noff]

Sorry for the caps DM, didnt realise the lock was on and have now corrected it, hope the shouting didn't wake you.

As for everything else you said, i don't think you read my post. You definitly haven't answered it.

They really 199 now, sounds like a bargain could be had.

[DARKMAN]

Sorry for the caps DM, didnt realise the lock was on and have now corrected it, hope the shouting didn't wake you.

As for everything else you said, i don't think you read my post. You definitly haven't answered it.

They really 199 now, sounds like a bargain could be had.


he he he

Mate i love read the Post ,bucause only like that i can learn who really need help or if i can learn some think from any oneand who relly loking only advertise a dead box.

Bargain of what !?

Buy stb 50% of options not wroking with Nxp cpu...China...every one unhappy ..a part of TM emplyoers they re all ways happy .lol

This is what i do not like m8 Mislleding people.... this 40.000 forum if that box was good you could see 100-1000 people talking nice about it...! but this silence talk but it self...

To be honet that box is for me or some people like play or like develop thinks not not for end users...because is not ready...That box is sold in stabe of beta images and still has no even their own s/w. maybe need another 2 years when nxp cpu can stablish more it self..in 6 months been sold in 3 diffent companies for that the sorce code been change all ways...
that is even the reaal reason TM and Itgate has called back their stb not to fix them but to change the sorce.

They can leing any one in street and their coustemers and i can all ways show the truth, becouse i am part of this business i know all what is going on in market....

just for you info....i had offer 43 dollar Nxp cpu from china and i never like put in UK market becouse is not product for UK...


Our freinds here who open one thread bought Tm 800 he says in his fist post here was happy.....he bought 259+ 49 wir.. + 50HDD = £358 hs sold in **** for less then £200,,,,and bought Vu+...

in the end TM try their best with the big advertise like all ways the "bets box in the world"...and fail double...not only s.w but even with their supporter coustemers ..becouse have not been honest...:smash:

[rickie_20]

Hi buddy,

Had mine back for about a month, signal problem is sorted.... sometimes on reboot it dont find the hard drive, reboot again and it seems Ok

I have noticed another firmware unpgrade was released a week or so ago, so I will try that in the near future.

I know there was a problem with the wi-fi, but as I dont have the wifi on mine I can not comment

[rickie_20]

No sure if this is already posted elsewhere on this forum, but taken from another forum:


If you want to be happy with your tm800 please read bellow

I do beta testing for tm800 and have full board tm800
---------------------
this is the way I test 02-02-11 and test has been 100% successful please do not use any other images use only UR for this test
Below testing is to give you confidence that there is nothing wrong with tm800 image and hard ware once you happy
download anything's you want but download them one at the time until you find what causing the problem
Many member are happy and do not see any problem few not by doing below test I am sure you will be happy as I am happy and many more
---------------------------------
section one
In my experience with tm-800 if instruction fallowed as below there will not be any green screen or freezing or any other faults with image 02-02-11
-----------
1-Download by USB and get image from download centre only 02-02-11 not other places {it might be possible image has been corrupted by different means
2-Do full factory reset .
3-Fallow ****** and download default channel list {if hard disk or wifi leave it for after ignore at this moment }
4-Turn off from rear for one minute
5-Test all functions use c:lines test all channels motor as many functions as you can
when test completed and you are 100% fully satisfied there is nothing wrong no green screen or freezing
6-press on USB button to find hard disk and format it off/on from rear then test all PVR functions working perfect
7-use wifi setting .
8-If above has problem continues download 02-02-11 again by USB ..may be image was not downloaded properly,
---------------------------------------
section 2
why green screen or freezing or menu slow down or not working properly

1-when section one done after use delete channel list by pressing blue button once see menu press red button delete channel list download your channel list
play with receiver if any problem channel list is doing
--if all ok
2-download any plaguing one by one and test each time and add as last one did not show any problem
3-add any thing in add on one by one
4-if there is problem find out which add-on or plagins or any new entry created problem go back and start again.
5-adding cams channel list and more add on of any kind will create memory hung-up in the ram this will create problem
6-turn off/on from rear to dispose of collected ram
7-make sure signal is always above 80%
---------------
if above creating problem do factory rest and start from section one
--------------------------
as I know and test Linux boxes at least few hours a day I found out why some members getting problems
1-using different channel list from any Linux receivers expecting to work perfect {this is wrong if create problem then no point in using it }
2-Too many cams-add-on-skins Etc. have been saved this will slow down the receiver so delete what you do not want
3-do not download another channel list on the top of exciting one--delete first before scan or download
4-turn off tm800 from the back at least 2 or 3 times a week
-----------------------------------------------------------
If you have tm-800 with 100s of problems check first
1-check if jtag done
2-check for latest image 02-02-11
3-after download do as per section one.
----------------------
Image 02-02-11 is a total re vamp of all and it is totally different to past image for last few days over 1100 download done from download centre.
please take my advise and download this image from download centre it is the best till today and test result has been 100% ok

[DARKMAN]

@Ricke20= Digi do not get people for stupid...:smash:

This is from Dr Linux TM employ together with Digi Boy TM boy...lol The most Misleeders and fake advertisers people i see in my life.
Shame to them and people follow them do not say the real truth...

I do not understend some members i do not like to nominte name from Satpims has bought the box and got rid of it why do not show and help different members to led them to the reality Truth..

If we going trust them ...they have 12months saying the best box in the world even are more then 50% of options bugs importend not working..even they advertise in their Gift Box and trick their coustemers...

[noff]

Thanks for that input Rickie.

Like to hear from a few others about their experiences too if possible, but if what DM said is true about the price I may get one of these for easter instead of an egg.

[DARKMAN]

Thanks for that input Rickie.

Like to hear from a few others about their experiences too if possible, but if what DM said is true about the price I may get one of these for easter instead of an egg.



Hi mate you like this threaad go on no porblem m8...he he

I will continiu for you looks like is dead..:smash:

[DARKMAN]

No sure if this is already posted elsewhere on this forum, but taken from another forum:


If you want to be happy with your tm800 please read bellow

I do beta testing for tm800 and have full board tm800
---------------------
this is the way I test 02-02-11 and test has been 100% successful please do not use any other images use only UR for this test
Below testing is to give you confidence that there is nothing wrong with tm800 image and hard ware once you happy
download anything's you want but download them one at the time until you find what causing the problem
Many member are happy and do not see any problem few not by doing below test I am sure you will be happy as I am happy and many more
---------------------------------
section one
In my experience with tm-800 if instruction fallowed as below there will not be any green screen or freezing or any other faults with image 02-02-11
-----------
1-Download by USB and get image from download centre only 02-02-11 not other places {it might be possible image has been corrupted by different means
2-Do full factory reset .
3-Fallow ****** and download default channel list {if hard disk or wifi leave it for after ignore at this moment }
4-Turn off from rear for one minute
5-Test all functions use c:lines test all channels motor as many functions as you can
when test completed and you are 100% fully satisfied there is nothing wrong no green screen or freezing
6-press on USB button to find hard disk and format it off/on from rear then test all PVR functions working perfect
7-use wifi setting .
8-If above has problem continues download 02-02-11 again by USB ..may be image was not downloaded properly,
---------------------------------------
section 2
why green screen or freezing or menu slow down or not working properly

1-when section one done after use delete channel list by pressing blue button once see menu press red button delete channel list download your channel list
play with receiver if any problem channel list is doing
--if all ok
2-download any plaguing one by one and test each time and add as last one did not show any problem
3-add any thing in add on one by one
4-if there is problem find out which add-on or plagins or any new entry created problem go back and start again.
5-adding cams channel list and more add on of any kind will create memory hung-up in the ram this will create problem
6-turn off/on from rear to dispose of collected ram
7-make sure signal is always above 80%
---------------
if above creating problem do factory rest and start from section one
--------------------------
as I know and test Linux boxes at least few hours a day I found out why some members getting problems
1-using different channel list from any Linux receivers expecting to work perfect {this is wrong if create problem then no point in using it }
2-Too many cams-add-on-skins Etc. have been saved this will slow down the receiver so delete what you do not want
3-do not download another channel list on the top of exciting one--delete first before scan or download
4-turn off tm800 from the back at least 2 or 3 times a week
-----------------------------------------------------------
If you have tm-800 with 100s of problems check first
1-check if jtag done
2-check for latest image 02-02-11
3-after download do as per section one.
----------------------
Image 02-02-11 is a total re vamp of all and it is totally different to past image for last few days over 1100 download done from download centre.
please take my advise and download this image from download centre it is the best till today and test result has been 100% ok

This Post Up is from Dr linux haw i says in privouse post..


Just Yesterday:

The Post douwn will be from forrest1066 was very good TM Supporter..and satpimps member .But even the supporters get feed up when you lieng..
He Quote This Post UP...with this post..



I have followed your instructions and they still dont work so please Shut Up Mr TM. Even though my box has been JTAGGED and i have followed the instructions to the letter. I still have the following issues - CoolTVGuide is sluggish and unresponsive. Internal HD Detected when it feels like it. Fast Foward and Rewind of anything recording is totally useless and frequently locks the box up or green screens it and recording of anything HD is still a little pixelated. I dont care about playback of DIVX etc it would be nice but this box still cannot do the fundemental basics correctly

[DARKMAN]

here is another meber 2 days ago who quet again Him...Dr Linux..= Ricky



Dr Linux, the box is nothing but a waste of time. Its overpriced and over rated. Its plagued with problems from the very beginning it’s a problem and you know it.

Download centre or not why should be constantly update it.

For the love of god TM did not give a hoot about this box.

No support nothing what so bloody ever.

It’s nice to offer support by tagging the box but as they were aware there was a problem with it. We had to send the box back granted a £8 was given as a venture of good will, but what about the people who sent it from abroad? Or a matter of fact it cost me £15. I for one will never buy a tm box again.

I have £250 in the box and if i could get £200 i would sell it now. It’s an expensive mistake similar to hiring a high class hooker when your drunk. ITS REGRETTABLE, what’s more frustrating is the fact that TM won’t fix it soon enough. How many people have bought one? They are quick to box shift but not to answer your problems.

Tm seems to think we owe it to them MAY I remind TM that they owe us, we bought this for £250 it’s an expensive problem plagued with problems that should be dropped from 200th floor building and buried in concrete.

The download centre is not GOD. The box has problems and needs fixing a.s.a.p I was told there would be another image coming very soon and tbh i can’t wait. I want this thing fixed one and for all its very annoying to stick an image on it and then stick another some have some faults some have others.
It’s a real shame, i enjoyed Tm boxed and find the 5400ci flawless. I have now lost faith in the company and will not RECOMMEND the box to anyone. I state the truth which is, its a mistake and a very expensive one.

[DARKMAN]

Thanks for that input Rickie.

Like to hear from a few others about their experiences too if possible, but if what DM said is true about the price I may get one of these for easter instead of an egg.


looks this Post is quote not for you ...lol

but for Riicky ....dr linux -digi and tms

from another Member




If the same lets call them 'mud slingers' repeatedly hammer threads into a slagging match then they should be subjected to the same punishments as anyone else on the forum, including this points systems, suspensions, and perm bans.

I also think it's wrong however to have TM employees pretending to be end users and posting stuff about it must be users fault as their boxes are working 100% and is best box ever etc... we all know the posts I'm talking about so no point trawling through the search feature quoting them. There has been so many wrong claims made it's unethical practice and very misleading to potential new comers.




if you like copy past many post same like Ricki done with post Dr linux post...but im afraid all will go against Tm 800...:D

[Viewsonic]

I'm about to replace my receiver & would be interested to hear other peoples views(who have the receiver) as well

Viewsonic

[basilyoung]

I aggree with Darkman, that the TM800 is not a great unit, but not for the same reasons, as its well known, that Darkman has issues with TM

I do not own this unit, but do know peeps that have bought this unit, surport for this unit is poor, end of, largely due to the unit being half baked, at the timeof it release for sale

how ever, recent events, once the unit has been corrected by technomate, have made this unit a workable unit, but still with a few problems

with other alteritive units on offer, ie, DB range, or ( in my opinion. the VU+ duo ) and more recently, the Clarketec 9000 ( still very new to the club )

and the spider box options

I would advise staying away from this unit, unless you fancy an uphill battle, which you may or may not enjoy

Darkman seems to be on a mission, regarding Technomate, but I have to say, perhaps he is right on this one,

Oh and good evening DM,

[noff]

Basil. I do have to agree with you that it does seem an uphill battle. Thing is I got into this hobby over 12/13 years ago for free tv. Within 6 months my view completly changed and it became more fun to get something to do something that it shouldn't than it actually was to watch the channels I cleared.

TBH out of the millions of channles I have I probably watch about one/two football matches a fortnight and BBC. Can't remeber the last time I watched sly one.

Now this TM800 for 200 quid gives you enigma2 and dual tuner. Reading around it looks like a massive improvement has been once TM rechip( or whatever it is called ) the unit.

Yes it looks a struggle whenever you even wanna change channel on it, lol, but you know what I kinda like that, which is why I am seriously considering buying one. Providing I can clear my diary for the next year in order to spend time on it.

This is one of the main reasons too why I wont get the spiderbox. Not because of DM, but just because if something "just works", I feel like I've accomplished nowt. If I want straight out the box I may as well just stick with my Sly sub.

Yes DM has his agenda, and by all means I aint stopping him from shouting from the rooftops about it, if thats his bag who am I to stop it. I just get a tad offended when my thread gets h1jacked over it. A simple post like yours Basil and I would have probably nodded my head at it and thought "oh right".

[basilyoung]

trust me, DM, and I have crossed swords a few times, The joke is, I quite like him in some ways, ( dont get too excited DM ) but as I have posted, the TM800 has lost is potential

the Duo labs unit is an equivilant option price wise, and a better bet

I will soon own a Clarketec 9000 and fancy this unit will be a very good unit

I still as yet not got round to a spider unit, but will do in time....( but wont tell him its me )

but my firm fraverite, is the VU+ units

oh,...and thanks for your comments

baz

[Anrakh]

Now this TM800 for 200 quid gives you enigma2 and dual tuner.

Where did you get the idea it was a dual tuner box?

[DARKMAN]

trust me, DM, and I have crossed swords a few times, The joke is, I quite like him in some ways, ( dont get too excited DM ) but as I have posted, the TM800 has lost is potential

the Duo labs unit is an equivilant option price wise, and a better bet

I will soon own a Clarketec 9000 and fancy this unit will be a very good unit

I still as yet not got round to a spider unit, but will do in time....( but wont tell him its me )

but my firm fraverite, is the VU+ units

oh,...and thanks for your comments

baz


M8 i am not exiting at all i m more then 40 Years old..

I just Push Thanks Button do you know why ?! to be honest hawever who it is for me, when they talk Honesty i love says Thanks. ( this time you try talk sence and true )

[noff]

Where did you get the idea it was a dual tuner box?

Sorry, typo.

[DARKMAN]

Basil. I do have to agree with you that it does seem an uphill battle. Thing is I got into this hobby over 12/13 years ago for free tv. Within 6 months my view completly changed and it became more fun to get something to do something that it shouldn't than it actually was to watch the channels I cleared.

TBH out of the millions of channles I have I probably watch about one/two football matches a fortnight and BBC. Can't remeber the last time I watched sly one.

Now this TM800 for 200 quid gives you enigma2 and dual tuner. Reading around it looks like a massive improvement has been once TM rechip( or whatever it is called ) the unit.

Yes it looks a struggle whenever you even wanna change channel on it, lol, but you know what I kinda like that, which is why I am seriously considering buying one. Providing I can clear my diary for the next year in order to spend time on it.

This is one of the main reasons too why I wont get the spiderbox. Not because of DM, but just because if something "just works", I feel like I've accomplished nowt. If I want straight out the box I may as well just stick with my Sly sub.

Yes DM has his agenda, and by all means I aint stopping him from shouting from the rooftops about it, if thats his bag who am I to stop it. I just get a tad offended when my thread gets h1jacked over it. A simple post like yours Basil and I would have probably nodded my head at it and thought "oh right".

You right M8 ....MY AGENDA IS TELL PEOPLE TRUTH...

Not write enythink to advertise the dead box,..

yes true i had issu with TM Company, not with TM Box...Tm box has issue with it self..... NXP Cpu ....becouse very very cheap CPU....45 Dollars many stb in *******.CN

[basilyoung]

M8 i am not exiting at all i m more then 40 Years old..

I just Push Thanks Button do you know why ?! to be honest hawever who it is for me, when they talk Honesty i love says Thanks. ( this time you try talk sence and true )

@DM....:cheers2: one day :king-042:

seriuosly .... the TM800 has lost is opertunity, several units quite simply are better

baz

[DARKMAN]

@DM....:cheers2: one day :king-042:

seriuosly .... the TM800 has lost is opertunity, several units quite simply are better

baz

yes mate TM company is very Good ..Tm units are good too not exelent ,but TM 800 for what is this thread here is disaster ...

[joany]

I aggree with Darkman, that the TM800 is not a great unit, but not for the same reasons, as its well known, that Darkman has issues with TM



Darkman seems to be on a mission, regarding Technomate, but I have to say, perhaps he is right on this one,

Oh and good evening DM,



Its an absolute pleasure to see this discussion going ahead in such a civilised and objective way.

:respect-040:

[echelon]

I have had many tm,s over the years ( and still own the tm1500 and tm9100 and a clarke 1500 ) but the disasters over this 800 unit and the lack of 100% working images for the previous tm9100 has put me off them in favour of other boxes. I too have crossed swords with the man , and like basil also quite like him , and definitely like how forthright he is , and in this case I tend to agree with him and basil over this tm800 and you would have to give me one before I spent any time on it. everyone is entitled to their own opinions and dm and basil and myself are no exception , even if there is an agenda as well , as long as we know the person has one , which we dont when tm employees post as "ordinary members" , of which I am one due to not having employments or shop or any hidden agenda

spiderbox is easy , almost too easy , but I own one and definitely love it , but for an enthusiasts box I prefer my dm800 which I bought second hand 2 years ago and would never part with. I also have an icecrypt twin tuner that does what I want too even though I havent tried enigma 2 on it yet.

so I do know about enthusiasts boxes and several plug and play boxes.

I have too many boxes already but if buying a new enthusiasts box I would have to consider the new clarke , the vu+ duo or dreamboxes or similar , but I feel let down by tm since the first enthusiasts box I tried which was the tm9100 , promised so much compared to the dreamboxes but the support from tm was poor and the 3rd party images were never completed to anyones satisfaction , close but not close enough

buy a box from goldwafers and you know it isnt cr*p and that the support seems to be there

buy a dreambox and it always seems that the support is there due to its presence and domination of the market as a leader in its field and the groups all support it as well

so from the reports I have seen and read , and some that dm has reposted here for us all to see , the answer is no I wouldnt , but if you do then do buy one and if it goes pear shaped dont moan , bin it and get something with good feedback , because I would only buy boxes with the good feedback in future , maybe a simpleton like the spider or blade , and maybe a vu+ duo for something to play with that has rock solid credentials

as a hobbyist I want my money to work for me , not thrown away beta testing for others

[tr8.]

As a man who has had loads of recievers over the last 20+ years all I would say it would have to be a masive change for TM to tempt me back for a linux reciever, I have had 3 DM box's prior to getting my TM9100, now in the end it was not a bad buy and lasted. But it took forever to have a good image, recently I purchased in december a DM800hd-se to replace it, it was running in hours the image i use from iCVS has never failed or rebooted once in 2 months and iIhad a great choice of images. I cannot imagine changing from DM again, the support is by far the best, my tm9100 took a year to be fully stable and I regreted selling my dm7020.

BUT. my TM1500 was one of a all time great machines, my TM5400 and TM6900 were ok, so i would consider them for a non linux machine, problem is ways of sharing is the current future.

If I was giving any advise on getting a linux it hurts to say it, because I hate spending to much but DM are worth the extra money and have proven it for years, another may come to match them, but will be a long time to regularly beat DreamMedia for a linux reciever. I hope AZ or VU get there but they have a long way to get my trust because of my TM9100.
Just dont get a linux reciever from TM if you want it to work quickly

[Plessy]

Where did you get the idea it was a dual tuner box?


M8 i am not exiting at all i m more then 40 Years old..

"I just Push Thanks Button"
do you know why ?! to be honest hawever who it is for me, when they talk Honesty i love says Thanks. ( this time you try talk sence and true )


Its an absolute pleasure to see this discussion going ahead in such a civilised and objective way.

:respect-040:

Be Wise to what you spend your hard earned cash on if you dont understand the routes to your source. Is All I say......





Hopefully !

I remember when they talk Honestly and "Never Press" the Thanks Button back then,,,, two peas in a pot....:D AKA DM


@Noff ! Sorry for ******ing your post ! Haven't had the bobs yet to upgrade, Jack Motor or Vuo 4 that matter .....:sifone:


As a Blow in from the past Glad also to hear the Constructive Criticism for Every Platform/Make Or model...be it Vuo/Duo or a new face of whatever...

Any Free Bee Samples TM/SB/etc etc Gladly Accepted for testing,,,,:podium-016:

[quibath]

Hi guys.

Am still looking at getting one of these and was wonderinghow everyone who sent them in to Technomate for reflashing (whatever it the term is ) are getting on.

I see the last thread has been closed on this so if we could just have a genuine q&a and no "I told you so" it will be great.


Hi

Maybe time to go back to the roots.

What noff asked about tm-800 back reports:D

[Plessy]

Hi

Maybe time to go back to the roots.

What noff asked about tm-800 back reports:D

Time Indeed ! but not for either that or lazybox......;)

[echelon]

Hi

Maybe time to go back to the roots.

What noff asked about tm-800 back reports:D

not strictly true , what you have quoted is the post he edited , not the original post that also asked for viewpoints regarding this as well and so he got replies like mine and basil`s and tr8`s that include our viewpoints as regards trust of the said company since the tm9100 debacle. he has changed the original post to the one you have quoted in your last reply

but I do agree its time that those who have received the tm800 back post their reports on how it is now the work has been carried out , good or bad

[DARKMAN]

not strictly true , what you have quoted is the post he edited , not the original post that also asked for viewpoints regarding this as well and so he got replies like mine and basil`s and tr8`s that include our viewpoints as regards trust of the said company since the tm9100 debacle. he has changed the original post to the one you have quoted in your last reply

but I do agree its time that those who have received the tm800 back post their reports on how it is now the work has been carried out , good or bad



Yes Echelon is totlly right...The post been change...

I can says Not only TM 800 was disaster only, but one of the best Company has done big mistake even missleding ..in their website their coustmers ...

I need to remider all of you this:

from their website
Rumours about the TM-800 HD Linux
24th July 2010There have been some rumours concerning the TM-800 HD Linux.

TM-800 sales and development are going strong. We are expanding into linux receivers very strongly and making sure our customers are fully satisfied.

3,000 units have been sold successfully since launch with another 4,000 units coming within August, followed by an extra 6,000 units by the end of September.

These rumours are 100% false and the fabrication of some worried competitors as they fear losing their business because of the success of the TM-800.

Please contact our Head Office if you have any questions.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


If you read this post you will Lauf... even you will understend what this company is doing to advertise and not telling the truth their coustmers.....




July 2010


let me do you some Maths..lol


3000+6000+4000 Tm 800 August- septemb 13.000pz.... September -Februar2011 lets says 1 do not mater....

13001 STB ....where are their Coustmers !>? when we all know this kind of stb linux will buy only Hobby people they stay all day in forums !?

In this 40.000 forum and many others one talk about this stb....the only please when they talk about is one forum is ex cable forum when are Tm employ and Tm onwer Dictate all post.

What i like to show is very simple...is it possible...TM had 130013001 stb and no REPORTS HERE From Genniune Members !? need be min 100-200 lol where are their 13001 Coustemers !?

Simple or not !?

[Plessy]

3001 :D

Good Old Fashioned SALES REP !:seeya:

[noff]

not strictly true , what you have quoted is the post he edited , not the original post that also asked for viewpoints regarding this as well and so he got replies like mine and basil`s and tr8`s that include our viewpoints as regards trust of the said company since the tm9100 debacle. he has changed the original post to the one you have quoted in your last reply

but I do agree its time that those who have received the tm800 back post their reports on how it is now the work has been carried out , good or bad


Sorry guys,somehow, with one thing or another I havent been back to this thread this month.

Yes I would like to hear from more people that received their box back that is true.

As far as editing goes, the only thing I did was change the title from caps to small letters. Don't know what you think I wrote originally, it is ALL in the first thread.