lifting 1m dish

[umgum]

i have lifted up 1m dish and HtoH mount on my ground stand
to try to clear a few shrubs so i can get 30w

i am now getting a better signal than i have ever had on 19.2e,13e,9e and 5e
i cannot get anything west
tried 1w,7w,12.5,15,18,30

any ideas or do i need to redo it all

[Barney]

You need to set up your dish initially on 1 west at best poss signal when in UK then see how it tracks the ARC again..but for me in Eire i must align my dishes at Atlantic bird 3 at 5 west to obtain perfect Arc .
you have obviously altered your motor position when raising motor on your ground pole mount so finding 1 west again and getting best signal should solve your problems i did have similar probs some years ago and found it tuff to get Arc rite again but when i got it i marked with permenant marker exactly where my motor bracket is on the pole so if it goes off alignment i can easily fix in secs .
hope that helps ,
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Barney

[ABA]

did you get 30 west befor you moved it

[umgum]

yes and no
i could get it in winter when there was no growth on the trees

[brain]

Having set 1W do then check the arc - go to extremes and see what the signal strength is. You may need to adjust since the Dish must follow a balanced arc and it may at present be a bit skewed with signal dropping off at one end. But if you say signal is fine on the east side and nothing on the west, are the sats all switched on in receiver? Either that or you have set the dish at a very odd angle. Good Luck- Brain

[Prontopro]

The higher up on your pole your equipment is the more the pole will bend off vertical. Before making any adjustments make sure that the pole is still absolutely vertical or else you will never pull in the complete arc properly. If you're absolutely happy about the pole then follow the advice already given.

[umgum]

the pole is bolted some flags so carn`t see it moving

everything was working on my setup so yes all the sats are enabled

[umgum]

basicaly the question i`m asking is beacause i have moved it up will i know have to tilt the dish a bit

[satwyn]

no elevation should be the same if the pole is vertical

[brain]

Hi there
Basically there are three things - if your pole is vertical what Satwyn says is correct. Second - the fact that you did receive them means it is possible, but as said earlier the arc can be tricky on occasions and take some time. Thirdly - if east sats are stronger then there are two reasons - one that your dish being higher is getting a clearer view of the sats BUT since they appear well and then west ones drop off there is an arc problem if all sats are enabled on tuner. what receiver do you have? I hope you manage to solve it - I myself have spent some time on occasions sorting this one. Brain

[umgum]

i have humax 5400

[mb63]

i have lifted up 1m dish and HtoH mount on my ground stand
to try to clear a few shrubs so i can get 30w

i am now getting a better signal than i have ever had on 19.2e,13e,9e and 5e
i cannot get anything west
tried 1w,7w,12.5,15,18,30

any ideas or do i need to redo it all

Tell me your location, dish size, type of motor, box type, and are you using usals or diseqc 1.2 to position your dish.
OR is it an actuator/jack with a v-box or similar???
Tell me all these questions and i WILL help you.:respect-055:

[umgum]

Latitude: 53.482464
Longitude: -2.608553

1m dish HtoH mount diseqc on humax 5400

[mb63]

Latitude: 53.482464
Longitude: -2.608553

1m dish HtoH mount diseqc on humax 5400

Right, drive your motor to the zero/centre position, then set the elevation on the motor to 53 degrees. The motor and dish must be perfectly aligned/centred. Now, you need to look for the Thor satellite. It will be almost directly south of your location.
Move the motor and dish as one unit on the pole mount until you get a signal. As a guide, your dish elevation will be around 25 degrees.
Once you get as good a signal as possible on thor, tighten everything up and it will track the arc correctly.
One very important point, when you are looking for satellites, make sure that the default transponder in the box is valid/in use/ tansmitting.
If you use a dead transponder, you will not find the satellites.
Check lyngsat for valid frequencies.
Good luck, and be patient.:respect-055:

[umgum]

didn`t work all i get now is 1w and 5e

[mb63]

didn`t work all i get now is 1w and 5e

OK, you need to go back and do it again. Set the motor to zero and make sure that the dish is perfectly aligned to the centre of the motor. This is critical. And don't forget to use valid transponders when looking for sats.
Keep trying, you'll get it right.
The main thing is you have found thor. That is the vital starting point.
And, use a more user friendly box than the humax. They can be a right pain in the a*se to find sats with.

[umgum]

i only have a hummy or a pace 300 analogue box lol

[Blagi]

Borrow a friend's rec...

Or a sat-meter from an installer, if you can.

Or buy a very cheap, semi-decent HD rec, like Opensat S9HD (under €99)...

Good luck!

[umgum]

Borrow a friend's rec...

Or a sat-meter from an installer, if you can.

Or buy a very cheap, semi-decent HD rec, like Opensat S9HD (under €99)...

Good luck!

i don`t have any friends :frown:

i mean friends with sat rx

[mmg123]

Remember my situation satwyn i wore a groove in 72 concrete steps trying to get hellas sat.

Just a thaught, my elevation was not equal both sides, it was 1 degree different and i could only get a few sats. Now i can move it and get them all being equal both sides.

[satwyn]

Remember my situation satwyn i wore a groove in 72 concrete steps trying to get hellas sat.

Just a thaught, my elevation was not equal both sides, it was 1 degree different and i could only get a few sats. Now i can move it and get them all being equal both sides.yes indeed you should now consider installing a motor so we can have some more headaches

[cosworth4x4]

if you only raised the pole and you sure all was correct before.
pole 100% straight and dish following the arc correct , then only option dish has twisted as you raised it , no alterations would be needed to the mount only turn it on the pole to realigh to the weekest sat.

1mm twist on the pole can mean a lot you would not even now it had twisted but sats be way out .
but if you made alterations to mount allready then its start from fresh.

[clacky]

My dish is on a pole in the garden and have moved it that many times to avoid trees and extended it to about 6 feet.
the only rule I follow is to make sure the pole is vertical with a spirit level.Its usually on 28 degrees ,so its just a case of move it left to right till the picture jumps on the screen.Then everything else is ok even 26 east.
cheers

[mmg123]

Satwyn Funny you should say that i have one on the way from uk, Let you know when i have it. he he.:respect-055:

And yes my dish was set with sprit level but that 1mm does mean alot.

[umgum]

so now i am back to how it was before ish
i can now get 28e to 1w still cannot get bulsat or 30w

[cosworth4x4]

when you say back to ware you was before ?

meaning before you raised the dish , or to where you was when you first raised it?

[tommy125]

Your Location
Latitude: 53.4826°
Longitude: -2.6092°
| THOR 5 | THOR 6
Motor Latitude: 53.5°
Declination Angle: 7.6°
Elevation: 28.9°
Azimuth (true): 177.7°
Azimuth (magn.): 180.6°
LNB Skew [?]: -1.3° Dish Skew [?]: 90.0°
hope this helps umgum

[arold1968]

@ umgum. you might want to edit your long lat .. you dont know who is watching ..... a quick look on google street view showd your house .. nice car in the drive by the way