Vu Plus Ultimo - 36v Motorised VBoxII Setup

[nsharma]

Hi,

As a newbie, can somebody please kindly advise or point me in the right direction, when setting up a 36v Superjack actuator/motorised dish (previously used with an Echostar DVR-7000) for Vu Plus Ultimo Triple Tuner 1TB receiver.

The dish is currently pointing at Astra (19.2E). What are the steps when setting up Tuner A on the receiver, and the VBoxII is showing 000 (dish direction/connections are OK). Should the VBoxII have to be programmed the East-West limits on a non-horizon-2-horizon dish mount before anything else?

I have tried Tuner A - Configuration mode=Advanced, Satellite=Astra(19.2E), LNB=1 now shows more menus. Leaving settings unchanged, scrolling down to Use USALS for this Sat=No (Stored Position 001 appears). When accepting this as well as the channel lists, how do request the receiver to move the disk to find the next satellite position without using the VBoxII controls?

If the installed image is replaced by another, does the receiver loose all tuner plus any other stored settings?

Also, what are the steps on how to take a copy of the factory installed image on the receiver?

Many thanks in advance, for all your help.

With kind regards.

[CokeAddict]

Have a look at this link here: https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?154256-Dummies-guide-to-setting-up-Vu-Ultimo

The info specific to your request is near the bottom of the post.

As for changing the image, yes it will loose all settings and therefore it would make sense to start at 1 end of the arc and list the sats 1 at a time on your v-box so that it corrisponds.

i.e for me 45w = stored position 1 and 53e = stored position 39 with all others in between.

[nsharma]

Hi,

Trying to setup an Ultimo receiver (VIX image), triple tuners (DVB-S/S2) with 36v motorised disk/VboxII positioner and having setup problems:-

- The motorised disk is connected to a Universal Quad LNB, covering the ******* to Hispasat satellites.

- Using the old Echostar DVR700 in parallel as a picture/satellite-lock meter for the respective satellite positions, storing these on the VboxII (previously reset) connected to the motorised dish.

- No dish limits were set on the VBoxII.

- Moved the dish via the VBoxII remote to the various stored position and then configured Tuner A (Tuner B&C are disabled) to assign a corresponding satellite name, LNBxx (where xx increments with each additional satellite name added).

- Further down the menu, changed DiSecq mode=1.2, USALS=No and input-stored that satellite position using the receiver's remote control.

- When performing an automatic scan, this configuration fine works for Astra-1, Eutelsat-W2 and Hotbird, by moving the disk to the correct satellite and scanning the transponders.

- However, scanning other satellites, the receiver shows a motorised dish-symbol implying that the disk needs moving, even when moved to the correct postion by the receiver whilst the scan transponder details are displayed on screen, but no scan progress is made.

Am I missing anything else out?

I also have installed plugins for the Satfinder and Positioner setup (not used for the above steps). Should I use start from scratch, knowing in advance where the various satellite positions are, but only programming them into the VBoxII (after resetting VBoxII) using the receiver plugins?

Is it better to use another or later VIX image or BH-1.76, instead of the factory shipped VIX, just in case there are quirks in this original VIX image? If this is the case, what are the steps to restore the receiver back to the factory default VIX image with the bootloader?

Many thanks in advance, for all your help.

With kind regards.

[CokeAddict]

The flashing dish symbol means it is looking for a signal, if the dish isn't moving, it means the transponder it's looking at has no signal.

When doing a scan, it can take a couple of minutes for it to move to the next transponder, as in the backround it will be looking for a Network table with a list of active transponder frequencies.

If after 5 or so minutes it still hasn't done anything then there could be a problem somewhere (most likely the satellite.xml file).

As for images, the pre-flashed version of ViX will be the same as the downloaded version (although it might need an update, but either way it will be a released version).

I personally prefer to use BlackHole images, but that really is user preference (only way to know which image suits you best is to try them all until 1 feels really comfortable for you).

[nsharma]

Hi,

As suggested, copied the latest satelites.xml file generated by Dreamset to the receiver via FTP and started again from scratch. Everything worked all OK.

With kind regards.

[CokeAddict]

Good to hear it's all working now :)

[nsharma]

Another small problem.....

I decided to install the default channel lists for Astra and Hotbird, was still working fine. After leaving the receiver and VBoxII in standby mode overnight, now the receiver issues a flashing "motorised disk" symbol but the VBoxII sometimes goes to power save mode or just doesn't respond to the issued commands. I found that one of the satellites had to be reprogrammed using the steps outlined during setup, as well as restoring a backup from the receiver - no joy after trying these. Can you please kindly advise as to what is happening here, as I am lost.

With kind regards.

[nsharma]

It appears that the Dreamset loading of channels may be upseting the receiver and hence causing this issue. Has anybody else encountered this before?

With kind regards.

[nsharma]

Yes, I was right - the positioner is sent a sequence which affects the stored positions on the VBoxII. This issue is fixed by re-programming the satellite positions on the VBoxII only. It is wise to have a spreadsheet of the VBoxII positions corresponding to the satellite name and LNB number (set in the tuner) which can save time with this task.

[Jimdefruit]

The VBozII positions are set at the numbers you give them in the tuner set-up.

Long ago, I got fed up with trying to remember/find the list of numbers so I now just give the satellites the E/W position numbers.

ie. 28E is 28, 19.2E is 19, 16E is 16 etc.

It is easy for me because there are some bl**dy great evergreens which stop me getting any of the West satellites. However, if I could get the West sats I would only need to change the odd number. The only one I think would clash would be 7W and 7E but I cant get 7W anyway so no prob.

[nsharma]

That's a very good idea about the satellite numbering scheme. I also discovered that when that reset sequence is sent via the receiver to the VBoxII, the time on the receiver is also reset instead of showing the correct time.

[CokeAddict]

I edited my satellites.xml file to give each sat a number (for example 45w is 01 30w is 02, 0.8w is 14, 28.2e is 27 etc etc etc all the way round to 53e which is 39).

These numbers then tie up to the numbers on my vbox.

It makes things very simple to setup again, and it doesn't take very long to edit the satellites.xml file.

[nsharma]

I would appreciate some help regarding another question from the continuation of this same post:-

The receiver has 3xDVB-S/S2 tuners each one directly connected from the LNB cables feed from the single Universal Quad LNB, with NO loop-through cable being used on the receiver.

Configured Tuner A=Advanced as discussed in the above post, Tuner B=second cable of motorised LNB Tuner A, Tuner C=not configured -all this works OK.

Now if Tuner C=equal to Tuner A, then the flashing motorised dish symbol appears with the VBoxII going into standby mode when changing channels residing on another satellite.

Please advise as to how to use Tuner C along with the other Tuners A & B?

With kind regards.