Irdeto Channels @19E and FTA Trouble

[pixey]

Hi. I am having trouble opening the Irdeto2 channels on 19e with my new uno box. I am using mgcamd 1.38, Blackhole 1.7.6 and the latest keys but no luck. I can open Bulsat and premier League TV at 10e without any problem. I remember with my Humax I had to edit the PCMT table to clear it and was wondering is there anything else that I need to do.

Also, I am getting no signal on my uno on the FTA channel Sport 1 Germany, 12480 V 27500 3/4, on 19e, but when I turn my Humax on the same channel I get 98% signal and a clear picture.

I am still learning with the Uno so all help is appreciated.

pixey

[Detlef]

Canaal Digitaal is down at the moment.

[mister-t]

sport 1 is working fine here,are you using a pre-made list? or scanning channels yourself
what i mean is,is it in your list but gives no signal

mister-t

[pixey]

Using a pre made list but if I try to manually scan the transponder it says there is no signal although the humax has a full signal.
I don't understand why that would be.

pixey

[mister-t]

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?155993-vu-uno-tuner

maybe this may be of help to you

mister-t

[digicon]

How long have you owned the Uno and did you do the FPGA Upgrade for the Tuner through the plugins

[pixey]

Hi. I bought it from the sponsors about 4 weeks ago. I haven't done the tuner upgrade.
Is there any way of telling if it has already been done?

pixey

[mister-t]

i brought mine about the same time and didnt need to do anything at all,it just worked

you could always ask lee if he did it

mister-t

[pixey]

I can see the FPGA upgrade in the plugins menu, does that mean it has not been done?
Also, can you clear the irdeto channels in the Dutch package on 19e?

pixey

[mister-t]

I can see the FPGA upgrade in the plugins menu, does that mean it has not been done?
Also, can you clear the irdeto channels in the Dutch package on 19e?

pixey

i can also see the fpga in plugins menue,yes can clear irdeto channels

mister-t

[mister-t]

I can see the FPGA upgrade in the plugins menu, does that mean it has not been done?
Also, can you clear the irdeto channels in the Dutch package on 19e?

pixey

i can also see the fpga in plugins menue,yes can clear irdeto channels

mister-t

[pixey]

Did you need to do anything to clear the irdeto channels?

[mister-t]

i am not sure what your exact setup is,if your using box as you received it,with no c-lines,then i suggest you use search facillity on here or google it
but do not break any rules on here,there really is plenty of info on the net which will answer most if not all your questions

mister-t

[pixey]

I am not using cs if that is what you mean, it's just that on my humax I can open these channels using the Fausto emulator, and as far as I understand, the UNO should be able to do the same with the correct keys.

pixey

[mister-t]

in a previous post by detlef he did say that canaal digitaal was down

mister-t

[digicon]

Run the FPGA plugin to sort the Tuner issue if it has been done it wont do it any harm anyway, Takes 2 minutes

[pixey]

Oh okay, it's just that you said you could open them, my mistake, I somehow missed detlef's post.
Thanks for the help.

pixey

[pixey]

Asked Lee about fpga and he said it is up to date so still can't see why I get no signal on that frequency (bouquet).

Any ideas?

pixey

[mister-t]

you say yo can get it through your humax,are you by any chance looping the uno through the humax
if so then try just using the uno,if your not then i really dont know what to suggest sorry

mister-t

[pixey]

No I am not looping through, I am swoping the cable over.
Thanks for your help, maybe someone else might have an idea.

pixey

[jimrare]

What signal level does your humax show? Humaxes have good tuners

[pixey]

I will have to check again to be accurate, but I think it is about 90%.

pixey

[pixey]

jimrare, I have just checked and I am getting signal quality 100% and signal level 45% on the Humax.

pixey

[pixey]

I have a 1.2m channel master.

[mister-t]

12480 frequency is this the only frequency your having trouble with?
because if its working on humax it should work on uno,without re-reading all this post you said your using ready made list,but did you try re-scanning that channel yourself?

mister-t

[pixey]

Yes I did and am getting no signal?

[mister-t]

its got to be something really simple

are you using catseye channel settings?

[pixey]

Yes I am.

[pixey]

I think you are right, it must be something simple.

pixey

[mister-t]

did you try reloading the fpga upgrade? if not try that

also go into menue setup service searching sat finder then put the frequency in there and see if it locks on that frequency

[pixey]

Lee said the upgrade was done. I will try sat finder. Thanks

[mister-t]

Lee said the upgrade was done. I will try sat finder. Thanks

but it wont do any harm to do it again,what have you to lose

[pixey]

True, I could try that too.

pixey

[pixey]

Hi. I have tried the fpga upgrade but it made no difference.
I also tried using sat finder and still nothing. Under sat finder the SNR is 0% the AGC is at 40% but then flashes up to 70% and back down to 50% and the BER is 0%.
Any ideas?

pixey

[mister-t]

its begining to sound like bad signal,but strange as your other receiver has no problems.are your other channels working fine at the higher frequencies?
try putting in a newer channel list,are you using diseqc or usuals,are all your settings correct,you will have to go through everything double checking
its going to be something so stupid

[pixey]

mister-t, I am using diseqc and my settings seem to be correct. You made me think when you said about the higher frequencies, so I started checking and I think I have found a problem, not with the high frequencies, but with the symbol rate.
For example, I get no signal on 12480 v 27500 3/4 but I do on 12480 v 22000 3/4 (ses launches). On 12515 h 22000 5/6 I get a good signal. On 12460 h 22000 5/6 I get a good signal. I also tried some lower frequencies and get the same thing, 11686 v 22000 5/6 good signal, 11720 h 27500 3/4 has no signal.
It seems that all channels with a symbol rate of 27500 are showing no signal.
All these frequencies I have got from Lyngsat so should be right.

Is there any setting that I can check or change or is there a more serious problem?

pixey

[mister-t]

i dont think its serious

i am just trying to work out what could be wrong

[pixey]

I hope you are right. Thanks for helping.

pixey

[mister-t]

ok try this if you can,loop through from humax to uno,put humax on sport 1,then put uno on sport 1.you might have to disable diseqc on uno
then see if signal locks on,try with both receivers switched on,my skystar card used to have simmilar problem,had to have both on same channel dunno why but it worked,at least thats another thing we can tick off

[pixey]

Right, I have just tried that ( couldn't find a loopthrough cable so had to make one) with the Humax connected to the lnb out of the uno, and I lose signal on the humax when the uno is turned on and still get no signal on the uno.

pixey

[pixey]

Just reversed it, lnb out of humax into uno, and I get a signal on the uno, but when I turn the humax off it loses signal again.
What does this mean?
I don't want to have the humax on to watch this channel as that is pointless.

pixey

[mister-t]

it seems that the humax is giving extra signal to uno
really does seem like lack of signal like humax boosting the signal,maybe recheck your cable,lnb all connections
also in manual scan what are your settings.

[pixey]

In manual scan I am scanning 12480 V 27500 3/4

[mister-t]

In manual scan I am scanning 12480 V 27500 3/4

no what i mean is
tuner
system
satellite
and so on it gives you a list down the left hand side and on the right it gives you all the settings

[pixey]

Tuner A vuplus dvb-s nim
Single transponder
Dvb-s
Astra 1 H 19.2e
12480
Auto
27500
Vertical
3/4
No
No
No

This is what it says down the left side I'm manual scan.
Is that what you meant?
I will check all connections later just in case.

pixey

[mister-t]

thats different to mine,this is mine
tuner a dvb-s nim (dvb-s2)
unless you missed the (dvb-s2) part off your post

[pixey]

Yes I left that off the end, sorry.

pixey

[pixey]

Any other ideas, or do you think the stb is faulty?

pixey

[mister-t]

have you checked all connections,reloaded a newer channel list?
like i said previously your humax seems to be boosting the signal,have you tried nudging the dish east or west within the motor menue to see if that helps
even tho you have done the fpga upgrade.i to find that the tuner is not as good as my spider box, for example certain channels i got with the spider box are a lot higher signal wise than on the uno.maybe try using usuals if your motor can do that.even tho your humax locks on to those channels does not mean everything is spot on as better tuner and 1.2 metre dish i suppose would compensate for a slightly off dish,i would recheck every connection,check dish alighnment.

mister-t

[Waltwal]

I just tried my vu+uno on Sport 1 and i am getting interference on it with 1.5 p.f dish,then tried tm5400 with 1.8 pf dish same effect.
then tried tm 6800 on 1m pf dish and it was all clear.
then switched the router off at mains and everthing went clear.
this is worth a try regards waltwal

[pixey]

I have checked all connections and uploaded a new channel list and adjusted dish east and west slightly but made no difference.

Waltwal, although you said you get interference do you gat a good signal because I don't get any. Does your Internet router cause this? I will try it with my home hub turned off.

pixey

[mister-t]

well thats me stumped then if you have checked everything

but if looped through humax you get those frequencies which to me means it is boosting a weak signal,so somewhere down the line your losing signal
hopefully some one will chip in with some other ideas

[Waltwal]

The snr with the hub on is 87% but with it off this goes up to 96% this on 1.5m dish,
this seems to me that the spurious signal could be blocking the real one,dont forget that this could be coming from any other electronic device
the tm6800 that was clear in the first reply is located 20ft away in another room.
p.s I have ordered a new router regards waltwal