10 east

[spurskev]

hi all i am having trouble trying to pick up sat keeps saying no signal i have 90 cm dish clear view wondered if any one could help.cheers

[dOOds]

can you get 9E? just nudge you dish a bit left(East)..try with transponder 11222 V DVB-S/MPEG-2 27500 3/4 or 11387 V
DVB-S2/8PSK 30000 3/4

Hope you get it sorted

[spurskev]

thanks for that i will give it a go.

[echelon]

try ANN on 11728V 27500 , good strong signal, or BARAEM and AL JAZ CHILDREN on 11399H 07814

[spurskev]

thanks i have lost my manaul and have not played around with box for some time i am trying to find 10e throug moter set up is that right sorry for being a pain.

[echelon]

thanks i have lost my manaul and have not played around with box for some time i am trying to find 10e throug moter set up is that right sorry for being a pain.

yes, you can either do it yourself, or just add a new channel list after backing up your old channel list to usb stick

I have just uploaded my motorised list, so if you tried that one all you do is alter your usals settings to whatever they should be for your location

as for manuals , what is wrong with downloading one from here ? ??

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?151115-Spiderbox-manuals-and-guides

[spurskev]

thanks i will try that thanks for the help.

[spurskev]

bingo thanks for the list now all i need to get my head round is biss for pltv:07:

[echelon]

bingo thanks for the list now all i need to get my head round is biss for pltv:07:

that was answered in your BISS thread where I copied and pasted instructions form a member of another forum into our tutorials section

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?157814-Biss

I also linked to a manual in our spiderbox sections too

the idea of the various sections is to have everything a member would want at their fingertips at any time of the day (or night) ;)

one reason I uploaded my channel list is that the BISS key is already included and the specialised frequency pointed at to enable it

[spurskev]

thanks for the help does that mean that pltv should open automaticly.cheers

[echelon]

thanks for the help does that mean that pltv should open automaticly.cheers

yes

just check the pltv transponder frequency listed in my channel list

then check the biss key section near the bottom of the biss list, and you will see that transponder and the biss key

it should be open, mine is, and you can check the current biss key as posted a couple of months ago on here matches what is in there

was watching it on my spiderbox yesterday so I know it works

[spurskev]

hi i dont seem to have key edit in accessory menu it says not inserted

[Mickha]

Have you got your Spiderbox patched?
Have you pressed 1111 to extend the menu options?

Not Inserted seems more of a message when trying to access a cam, or card, from your post you are in the right menu section, Accessory, Key Edit, so you should get the options.

[spurskev]

yes 9000hd cheers

[Mickha]

Sorry I was editing my post, as your replies seemed to confirm you had the 9000HD.
Have you got the latest patch loaded?
Have you turned on the extended menu, by pressing 1111?
By entering the menu, Accessory and then Key Edit you should have a list of options, you select the first one to enter the keys section.
Key Edit
Reset Key Data
Ucas
Ucas Autoroll

[spurskev]

cheers got it in list now it is normally there in list

[spurskev]

hi have just tried to enter biss key for pltv think i done it right but no good not open just saye no signal:banghead:

[Mickha]

No signal is nothing to do with keys, or the Spiderbox, it means you haven't got your dish aligned correctly.
Have you moved your dish to 10E?
Can you please go into the Spiderbox menu, select manual scan, press the green button, on your remote control, and enter/select the following:
Satellite 10E
Frequency: 11387
Symbol Rate: 30000
Polarization: Vertical
Modulation: DVB-S2 8PSK
Pilots OFF
FEC 3/4

What are your signal strength/quality readings?

[echelon]

NOT INSERTED is the third one down and is in relation to the card reader, meaning you have not got a CARD INSERTED = NOT INSERTED

KEY EDIT is the 4th one down when the patch is turned on using 1111

no signal means you arent on the satellite, and as mickha correctly says nothing to do with keys

in my channel list for 10e PLTV is number 0005 , and has 4 fta channels above it

1 THAQALAYN
2 BARAEM
3 TEST
4 ANN
5 PLTV

all 4 fta channels have audio and video on them and you were told to check them a week ago in post #4 too

you are wasting your time checking ANY satellite on scrambled channels until you ensure your dish is on the money and pointing correctly

first thing I always do is check fta channels FIRST , seems blindingly obvious to me but seemingly not ;)

once I know I am getting good signals on fta channels I can check scrambled channels with confidence

I would advise anyone doing satellite work on a motorised dish system to do the exact same thing too

PLTV is working fine and pressing INFO twice it clearly states BISS on the right hand side as the decoding method
my signals are S in GREEN at 71% and Q in BLUE at 84% when I leave the double INFO onscreen

[spurskev]

hi thanks done mickha test readings are s=72 q=40 both red.cheers
i am picking up ann, and children channels.

[spurskev]

i tryed nudging dish in moter set up 70% green q then when i store and exit to channels its red no signal .

[Mickha]

Just read your previous post and the signal quality is rather low. Are you definitely on 10E and not 9E?
You need to get the signal quality, the blue bar, up, check your latitude, and longitude, readings, in your motor set up.

ANN Arab News Network, is on 9E, not 10E, 11727 V 27500, can you please post which channels you are scanning.

[echelon]

i tryed nudging dish in moter set up 70% green q then when i store and exit to channels its red no signal .

you cannot nudge and store and exit using usals mode, you can only do this if you are storing in diseqc 1.2 motorised mode
(nudging will prove a point using USALS but cannot be stored)

sounds like your usals are not quite right for your location, OR your dish and motor are not setup correctly

adjust the usals longitude in 0.1 or 0.2 steps either up or down until you get green and blue , good signal and good quality

so if you are on say 0.5w at the moment , try 0.4w and 0.6w , , 0.3w and 0.7w until you peak the signal on PLTV on 10e, and save and note that longitude

sounds to me as if you are about half to 1 degree out

as for scanning, the problem with scanning 9e or 10e means you can get channels from either satellite as they are so close

the fact you get ann on 9e tells me you are very close

then post back and state how far out the actual longitude is from your own gps longitude for your location

[spurskev]

hi i am picking up channels above pltv but still says no signal for pltv is it a weak signal for pltv or should it open as well cheers

[echelon]

its a strong signal for me here in the north and you should get it no problem and with the correct key (contained in my channel list or posted by ian in the pltv thread in the biss section) it should open

I have already posted the levels I get in previous posts

try pressing info twice, nudge it left and right and see if you get a strong signal or not

[Mickha]

Which channels are you getting, from 10E? Can you please list the channels, frequencies, polarity, symbol rate, and the signal strength, and quality readings.

[spurskev]

hi there i am picking up channels above pltv but pltv it says no signal for that one

[Mickha]

Hi spurskev,
we must have posted at the same time.
Can you please post the names, of the channels you're receiving, the frequencies, polarity, symbol rate, and the signal strength, and quality, readings.

[williamtell]

is it transmitting today?? just a hunch

[echelon]

is it transmitting today?? just a hunch

its on all the time m8, got it on here now where its been ok all day

[spurskev]

sorry me again longitude says 000.0e and lat says 00.0n

[echelon]

sorry me again longitude says 000.0e and lat says 00.0n

as I said earlier, you should put in your longitude and latitude for your gps location when you are using usals

clearly what you have posted cannot be correct

check your location in dish pointer or bing maps or on a satnav and put in your correct longitude and latitude and try again

[echelon]

sorry me again longitude says 000.0e and lat says 00.0n


just checked this location in dishpointer and it puts you on a boat off the coast of ghana below west africa :D

[skomedal]

just checked this location in dishpointer and it puts you on a boat off the coast of ghana below west africa :D

Is that near the lost city of atlantis?

Regards

[echelon]

Is that near the lost city of atlantis?

Regards

I suspect they have more chance of getting PLTV than the OP has ;)

[spurskev]

THANK YOU for the help .M.E.AND W have got it sorted thanks to you guys:respect-013:

[echelon]

I checked tottenham cemetery ( ;) ) on dishpointer and it was about 0.1W and 51.6N

glad you got it sorted in the end

now go and get the manual from our file section, download it and read it :D LOL

[Aldo]

THANK YOU for the help .M.E.AND W have got it sorted thanks to you guys:respect-013:

You certainly know how to make hard work of a simple task. :respect-applause-00