echelon
27-02-2013, 12:29 PM
hello all
it has come to my attention that there are several frustrated members here who are venting their spleen on the forum and also by breaking the rules and sending me or other members of staff a pm regarding troubles with their boxes
members should note that the hosting of this icecrypt forum is voluntary and that the sponsor does not sell these boxes, nor do we provide after sales support for any vendors selling them and they are LYING if they state otherwise
if you have a problem , take it up with the vendor, do not send me or any other member of staff a pm about it
it is not anybodys job here to comment on the legalities of what has been sold, or the descriptions given by any other traders
often there is confusion about what an advert says and what a buyer perceives
so for instance, when they talk about a 24/7 epg being available on a box , its likely that its true
they can probably demonstrate its truth by choosing a provider that allows a 24/7 epg free of charge
I doubt that any vendor will specifically state that this 24/7 epg is for sly on 28e , or freesat , as they are bespoke and owned and run by those companies
in other words its not a free service for anyone with any box to use
so the confusion arises because members see a non-committed statement and try to apply it to a closed source system like sly send out
this is a misconception on the part of the owner, as they are assuming it applies to sly, whereas a vendor will say it applies to the opentv system , where it applies
therefore NOW AND NEXT is standard to all boxes, and anything else is done by patches which are not by the manufacturer (like an apple that is jailbroken)
once you patch a box, its non-standard and so the manufacturer or vendor is not liable for its performance
neither are they liable for it not working on sly or freesat
so some members put 2 and 2 together and make 5
this forum exists so like minded owners can get together and discuss any issues, and in this section is about icecrypts
if you dont like the lack of responses, or the poor performance of the patches or plugins , that is your problem
feel free to discuss these issues, but stay within the rules here, or action will be taken to stop you posting or using this forum
it clearly states in the rules that members must use the forum for any issues, and not send any pm,s to staff about their troubles
I have received a few pm,s about icecrypts recently, and do not want any at all, never did , so do not send me any more or a 2 week ban will follow
if you have a problem , take it up with the vendor, but be sure you know what you are talking about and also make sure your box is in the same state as when it was sold, with manufacturer firmware on it, and therefore not "patched"
if testing a function, make sure its a valid test, and that does not include the epg from sly or from freesat, as they are bespoke and owned by those organisations
if a box is patched, its no longer standard and so has no legal bearing upon any claims made by the patch, its also no longer under warranty as you have "patched" the box so effectively its "jailbroken" and so even the manufacturer has no warranty for it as YOU have interfered with its programming
in other words, make sure you know what you are talking about !!
thank you for reading
it has come to my attention that there are several frustrated members here who are venting their spleen on the forum and also by breaking the rules and sending me or other members of staff a pm regarding troubles with their boxes
members should note that the hosting of this icecrypt forum is voluntary and that the sponsor does not sell these boxes, nor do we provide after sales support for any vendors selling them and they are LYING if they state otherwise
if you have a problem , take it up with the vendor, do not send me or any other member of staff a pm about it
it is not anybodys job here to comment on the legalities of what has been sold, or the descriptions given by any other traders
often there is confusion about what an advert says and what a buyer perceives
so for instance, when they talk about a 24/7 epg being available on a box , its likely that its true
they can probably demonstrate its truth by choosing a provider that allows a 24/7 epg free of charge
I doubt that any vendor will specifically state that this 24/7 epg is for sly on 28e , or freesat , as they are bespoke and owned and run by those companies
in other words its not a free service for anyone with any box to use
so the confusion arises because members see a non-committed statement and try to apply it to a closed source system like sly send out
this is a misconception on the part of the owner, as they are assuming it applies to sly, whereas a vendor will say it applies to the opentv system , where it applies
therefore NOW AND NEXT is standard to all boxes, and anything else is done by patches which are not by the manufacturer (like an apple that is jailbroken)
once you patch a box, its non-standard and so the manufacturer or vendor is not liable for its performance
neither are they liable for it not working on sly or freesat
so some members put 2 and 2 together and make 5
this forum exists so like minded owners can get together and discuss any issues, and in this section is about icecrypts
if you dont like the lack of responses, or the poor performance of the patches or plugins , that is your problem
feel free to discuss these issues, but stay within the rules here, or action will be taken to stop you posting or using this forum
it clearly states in the rules that members must use the forum for any issues, and not send any pm,s to staff about their troubles
I have received a few pm,s about icecrypts recently, and do not want any at all, never did , so do not send me any more or a 2 week ban will follow
if you have a problem , take it up with the vendor, but be sure you know what you are talking about and also make sure your box is in the same state as when it was sold, with manufacturer firmware on it, and therefore not "patched"
if testing a function, make sure its a valid test, and that does not include the epg from sly or from freesat, as they are bespoke and owned by those organisations
if a box is patched, its no longer standard and so has no legal bearing upon any claims made by the patch, its also no longer under warranty as you have "patched" the box so effectively its "jailbroken" and so even the manufacturer has no warranty for it as YOU have interfered with its programming
in other words, make sure you know what you are talking about !!
thank you for reading