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catseye
09-06-2013, 02:46 PM
For me its 53 east

Ive tried & cant get anything after that

Channel master 1.2 dish & invercom black modified lnb with feedhorn here in north worcs & vu duo

Dark Cloud
09-06-2013, 03:12 PM
42 for me,......Wife has a big tree and won't let me chop it down !.

oaktye
09-06-2013, 04:18 PM
57 for me then i have a tree problem as well

Barney
09-06-2013, 04:19 PM
i would say i can pretty much easily go 53 east but ive not really tried anything further east than 42e but i have no obstructions whatsoever in going further east .

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Barney

satwyn
09-06-2013, 04:27 PM
68e with no trees

tigertimtim
09-06-2013, 04:43 PM
was 57 e some time ago with 1 m gibertini in north east

catseye
09-06-2013, 05:02 PM
Dont forget to say what box you use,rough location & dish size

cheers

Dark Cloud
09-06-2013, 05:47 PM
North Lincs, Solo2(Bh), Icecrypt o.1 quad, Triax 1.1.

pontiend
09-06-2013, 09:32 PM
With my 100cm.50East.A rather large conifer in the way.My TD88 on the front of the house 53East It can see futher but not big enough to get anything.

Forgot the box TM5402HD.South yorkshire.

gadstamut
09-06-2013, 11:03 PM
39eat sky zone 1 dish, sky quad mk 4 lnb and a spider 9000 in the NE. I can't use my motorised one as past 28e there are a few trees owned by the council.

Mobley2
10-06-2013, 10:10 AM
57E for me on a 1Mtr dish in Dublin, Spiderbox 9000 with an Inverto Black Ultra Lnb.

Regards Mobley2

Detlef
10-06-2013, 11:54 PM
Interesting question.

Just been playing with one of those sat locator programs and these are the absolute max* for various locations.

London 76E
Liverpool 72E
Newcastle 72E
Edinburgh 71E
Dublin 69E
Bonn 83E :D

* this is when the disk is pointed along to the horizon over flat land. In reality it is not attainable.
If you lived at the top of a cliff on the east coast they might just be possible.

far
11-06-2013, 03:26 AM
68.5E here in York on a 1m Orbital. Dish was installed at just above gutter height so have a very good view of the arc here. Tried for 70.5E but no go here.

Works with both Technomate TM-5200 and TBS8920 PC card. Bear in mind that on some (all?) Technomates, USALS only works from 60W to 60E, only DiSECQ 1.2 after that.

catseye
11-06-2013, 08:05 AM
68.5E here in York on a 1m Orbital. Dish was installed at just above gutter height so have a very good view of the arc here. Tried for 70.5E but no go here.

Works with both Technomate TM-5200 and TBS8920 PC card. Bear in mind that on some (all?) Technomates, USALS only works from 60W to 60E, only DiSECQ 1.2 after that.

What channels/frequencies are you picking up & signal strength from 68.5 east

Cheers

satwyn
11-06-2013, 08:38 AM
when i did locate 68e on my channel master 1.2m dish with i belive a manhattan 550 at the time only picked up some religious channels in ku band can't remember the exact frequency probably did a blind scan

far
12-06-2013, 02:34 PM
At 68.5e using my 1m Orbital and my TBS 8920 PC card I get:
-12522H (98% Strength, Quality peaks at 72% but vaires from 53-72%)
-12562H (98% Strength, 69% Quality)
-12602V (98% Strength, 45 to 71% Quality!)
-12682V (98% Strength, 51 to 66% Quality)
-12722H (98% Strength, 34 to 48% Quality)
-12722V (98% Strength, 24 to 62% Quality!)

The variation in quality, from what I read on a forum elsewhere, is that because the satellite is so low on the horizon, any little fluctutation in such little things as pollutants in the air even can cause a huge variation in quality. This was all on a bright but cloudy day here in York.

Detlef
12-06-2013, 05:58 PM
Even clouds can cause a large attenuation of a signal; clouds are minute water or ice crystal particles.

If a dish is pointing at an elevation of 30 deg then on average it will only have the equivalent of about 4 miles of cloud between it and the Sat. If it is looking along the horizon that could easily be over 30 miles.

68E from York is very good and probably a practical limit.

cosworth4x4
12-06-2013, 07:59 PM
42 east for me and week (40%) as blocked by roof , shame the west sats are more directed towards usa as i have a good clear view that end.

Coastman
16-06-2013, 02:59 PM
For me 68.5e getting good signal on all transponders with good line of sight eastwards. looks like it could probably go to 70.5e but using tm2600 motor and believe this set as hardware limit as any nudges further just continue to get 68.5e with reduced signal. 1.1 dish and tm5202 in yorkshire.

catseye
19-06-2013, 02:58 PM
Finally got around to adjusting the elevation on my channel master mount & as a result 68.5 can now be received

I need to adjust limit on moteck positoner to see if 75 east is achievable but think this might be pushing it

Detlef
20-06-2013, 01:18 AM
The problem is that as you go to the extremes of the arc the Sats appear to get closer together.

For example two Sats that are 3 degrees apart (say 68E and 71E for this calculation) will only appear as 2.5 degrees of dish movement apart.

Generally a dish will capture some signal from about ±2 degrees* either side of the desired location, so selectivity is lost at that location. Then the relative powers of the two beams at your location might dominate.

[* slightly less as the dish size increases]

unimesh7Fowner
06-09-2013, 07:18 PM
A few years ago in the analogue days I managed to get a few indian channels around 79E for a few hours a day on C band on a 2.4 m dish with the low threshold setting at the highest with the LT8700 echostar. Mind you picture quality was not so good.

Now with digital with neither yes or NO picture , I can only get 42E . I have to try further east but need to fine tune my new LNB /feedhorn.

dog-man
06-09-2013, 07:28 PM
Currently my system is not set up correctly, but I believe that I can get to about 72 east (ish) at a push.
Don't know if there is actually a satellite in that exact position.

West is the problem for me because of next door chimney. I can only get to around 37.5w. If I could have the chimney blown up, I would get a lot further.
Probably way beyond 50w.
It's a very large substantial Victorian chimney.

skomedal
06-09-2013, 07:54 PM
If I could have the chimney blown up, I would get a lot further.
Probably way beyond 50w.
It's a very large substantial Victorian chimney.

Can arrange that if the fee is right:biggrinjester:

dog-man
06-09-2013, 10:49 PM
Payment on its way.

TonyO
07-09-2013, 12:35 AM
39e is about it here, big trees cut 42e out here , on top of my garage works for 42e but nothing east of that.

grafter
10-09-2013, 02:10 PM
70E here due to an annoying bush a few gardens down the road. A friend of mine a few miles along the coast has a 1m Gib on his flat roof that I installed last year and he gets ABS on 75E at 0.4° elevation. There's quite a bit of slow cyclic fading on it but it's viewable for about 75% of the time. It's within a fraction of a degree of the limit on his Darkmotor.

Unimesh7Fowner, that must have been some very odd refraction or tropo ducting taking place to get 79E, it's 2° below the absolute earth horizon in London.

eddie d
10-09-2013, 10:56 PM
42e here 50 miles north of dublin my dish is on the ground level cannot clear my neighbors house 1.2chanell master dm800se eddie d

dypcdiver
10-10-2013, 07:02 PM
68.5e using a no name 1m dish with an Inverto black ultra twin on an AB IPbox 9000HD
Location is Tarragona, Spain.

mdt
20-11-2013, 09:53 AM
57east here, north-west td110/tm5302hd. could get 62east but for the heating flue sticking out of the chimney. havn"t tried any further than that.. can get 61w at the other side, using a stab120 on usals,regards mdt

gman
20-11-2013, 12:34 PM
45e is easy for me and have had a sniff at 57e once before. when i get time i'll try and lock on to this one properly. Gutted tho as i'm only on an 80cm dish. I reckon i could get more with maybe something bigger as my house faces due south and to the east i have a clear view of the start of the pennines on the horizon :(

...although don't think the missus would be best pleased with a 110 on the front of the house!!