Co-Pilot live problems on tablet

[chopper1]

i downloaded Co-pilot live on my tablet and have having trouble with it. I get the message "determining satellite position" GPS signal detected then i get no signal??

can anyone help out i have checked the settings, i think i put in longitude and latitude in correctly but cannot use this app until i get this sorted out

help much appreciated

[echelon]

moved to the android forum

perhaps your tablet has no internal gps system ? I know my old tablet didnt as it was an externally linked and wired gps addon "dongle"

also I dont think you need to put any longitude and latitude in as its determined by your gps position same as on a satnav

[chopper1]

cheers Echelon, that may be the case, how can i tell if the tablet (a Busbi 7") has no internal GPS system?

[echelon]

cheers Echelon, that may be the case, how can i tell if the tablet (a Busbi 7") has no internal GPS system?

it may seem an abvious answer , but you would have to check the specs listed on the advert or website or any instructions that came with it, or its box that it came in

if it hasnt got an internal gps system, then clearly that is the problem in your case, so what you should really be asking yourself is, " why do I think it does have an internal gps system similar to a satnav ? ". or did you just assume it does have this feature ?

I know the more expensive tablets like my new google nexus 7 have this feature built in and that copilot from this android forum works on it

checking an advert on fle bay it doesnt mention any gps in the spec

the ones with gps say this

"GPS/Galileo GNSS Navigation"

I just find it odd that you mention putting in your location when clearly a gps satnav (or copilot) should be able to work that out by locking onto the gps satellites same as on a tom tom or my navigo satnav, where the only thing I have put in is my postcode so it can easily take me to my home address

a gps system never needs your longitude or latitude as it works out your exact location from locking onto several gps satellites

obviously a satellite receiver has no idea where your location is as it does not have this technology, which is why we put in our longitude and latitude into the usals section on our boxes, sounds like your busbi suffers from the same lack of a gps tracking system

[echelon]

these are the details on a samsung galaxy tab 2 (note the gps line)



1. Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 GT-P3110 , 2. AC Charger with 3 pin adapter , 4. User Guide

Product Features
Processor clock speed: 1000 MHz
Processor model: -
Internal RAM: 1024 MB
Total storage capacity: 8 GB
Storage media type: -

Samsung's first Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) - powered tablet offers a variety of new and improved Android OS features, including an updated Android Market.The new Galaxy Tab 2 offers users easy multimedia access, playback and sharing experiences with Samsung Hub services. Connecting socially has never been easier with a suite of powerful built-in communication capabilities

Technical Details

Network: HSPA + 21 Mbps (850/900/1900/2100)
Processor: 1 GHz Dual-Core Processor
Display: 7 inch WSVGA (1024 x 600) PLS TFT
OS: Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS))
Main Camera: 3 MP Camera (rear)
Sub Camera: VGA Camera for Video Calling (front)
Video Codec: MPEG4, H.263, H.264, VC-1, DivX, WMV7, WMV8, WMV9, VP8
Video Format: 3GP, ASF, AVI, MP4, WMV, FLV, MKV, WebM
Video Playback/Recording: Full HD at 30 fps, HD at 30 fps
Audio Codec: MP3, AAC, AC-3, AMR, FLAC, MID, WMA, WAV, OGG
Audio Playback: Music Player with SoundAlive, 3.5 mm Ear Jack
Value-added Features: Samsung TouchWiz/Samsung L!ve Panel, Samsung Apps, Samsung Hub (Readers Hub, Music Hub, Game Hub, Video Hub), Samsung Hub Widget (Music Hub, Game Hub, Video Hub), Samsung S Suggest (App recommendation service), Samsung ChatON (mobile communication service), Samsung AllShare Play, Samsung Kies/Samsung Kies air, Google Mobile Services (Android Market, Gmail, YouTube, Google Maps, Syncing with Google Calendar, Google Search, Google+), Polaris do***ent editor
Connectivity: A-GPS, Bluetooth v3.0, USB 2.0 Host, Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct
Sensor: Accelerometer, Digital compass, Light
Memory: 8 Gb User memory, 1 Gb RAM, up to 32Gb external memory (via microSD)
Dimensions: 193.7 x 122.4 x 10.5 mm
Weight: 345 g
Battery: Li-ion 4000 mAh

[echelon]

here is the e buyer spec on the £49 busbi 7

obviously at that price its not going to rival a samsung galaxy tab2 or google nexus 7 or nook HD+




Busbi Tablet PC, Cortex A8 ARM CPU 1GHz, 4GB Flash, 512MB RAM, 7" Touch, Wifi, Camera, Android 4.0.4Kingston 16GB Class 4

£57.99

Busbi Tablet PC Product Description

Processor

1.0GHz Boxchip Cortex A8 ARM processor
Mali 400 GPU

Memory

512 MB DDR3 system memory
4GB onboard storage
Expandable to 36GB via micro-SD slot

Software

Operating System: Android 4.0.4
With application market and busbi-apps access
Media viewing & listening

Display

7” capacitive display with 800 x 480 pixel resolution

Graphics

Mali 400 GPU

Audio

Onboard speaker,
3.5mm headphone out
built in microphone

Networking

IEEE 802.11 b/g/n WIFI capability

Power Supply

2300mAh longlife Li-ion battery
upto 3 hours use

Dimensions

Width 194 mm
Depth 121 mm
Height 11.5mm

Interfaces

1 x Micro USB port for USB OTG and charging

Warranty / Misecellaneous

2 Year Manufacturer Warranty
0.3MP Front facing camera





cant see GPS mentioned at all

[echelon]

now check out a google nexus 7 like my 32 gig one



Detailed item information

Product Information
Have a smooth mobile web browsing experience with the Asus Google 7, a 32 GB tablet that runs on the Android 4.1 operating system.
Featuring a 7-inch WXGA screen, this black Asus Google Nexus tablet PC has a maximum display resolution of 1280x800 pixels.
Additionally, the Asus Google 7 supports Wi-Fi connectivity, so you can check mails, chat with friends, and do lots more while on-the-go.
Ideal for gamers, this Asus Google Nexus tablet PC is powered by the 1.2 GHz NVIDIA Tegra 3 T30L quad-core processor which adds true-to-life colors to your games.

What’s more, with GPS support, this 32 GB tablet makes finding places simple and easy.

Product Identifiers
Brand ASUS Google
Model Nexus 7
MPN ASUS-1B32
Carrier Not Applicable
EAN 4716659345152

Key Features
Type Tablet
Display Size 7in (17.78 cm)
Hard Drive Capacity 32GB
Operating System Android
Internet Connectivity Wi-Fi
Colour Black

Processor
Processor Manufacturer nVidia
Processor Speed 1.2 GHz
Bus Speed 1333 MHz

Display and Screen
Display Tech WXGA
Display Max. Resolution 1280 x 800
Touch Screen Technology Multi-Touch

Digital Camera
Rear Camera Resolution 1.2 megapixel

Memory
Installed RAM 1GB

Connections and Expandability
Networking Type Integrated Wireless LAN
Data Link Protocol IEEE 802.11b, IEEE 802.11g, IEEE 802.11n

Dimensions
Height 19.8 cm (7.81")
Width 12 cm (4.72")
Depth 11.9 cm (4.7")
Weight 0.3 kg (0.75 lb.)

Battery
Battery Technology Lithium polymer

Additional Technical Informations
Input Method Touch-Screen
Platform Android

[chopper1]

quite right Echelon, i actually bought this for my son to play games etc, but i was using it too until i change and will probably get the galaxy tablet and ensure it has the GPS facility!!

[echelon]

buy cheap you buy twice m8

these cheaper tablets are fine for games and wifi browsing , emails , reading books and playing mp3 music files and mp4 videos etc so ideal for kidz and I just bought 2 cheaper ones like the busbi for my grandkids to mess about with

but for us "seniors" you really need the google nexus 7 , or the samsung galaxy tab 2 , or some other similar device like the nook HD+, and in your case double check for gps in the spec before buying it, seeing as its a requirement you wish to use

the old adage of "you get what you pay for" springs to mind, and my first thought when I saw your opening post was later confirmed in your replies, that you had bought a cheap tablet where gps isnt featured in the hardware or spec. on checking into those specs I was proved correct and have posted the specs so you can see the difference

the tablets with gps cost around twice the price of the busbi, or more , in some cases considerably more , although you can get a free galaxy tab 2 or nexus 7 with some 2 year phone contracts like the samsung S3 mini mobile phone for instance (or htc one or sony experia)

good job it was bought for the purpose you said and not your own purposes eh ? LOL ;)

ps:- I can confirm the copilot app from the sticky thread works fine on the galaxy tab 2 and nexus 7

[echelon]

checking on fle bay I found a similar tablet to the busbi , at 3 times the price but bigger screen

DISGO 8400G Dual Core 3G GPS 7.9" HD CAPACITIVE SCREEN TABLET GOOGLE ANDROID 4.1

or £100 for the following one similar to your non-gps tablet (so twice the price)

NEW 7" INCH TABLET PC ANDROID 4.0 WITH 3G/2G CALLING GPS BLUETHOOTH 1024X600 HD

but the cheaper under £50 allwinner A13 tablets dont have gps support

[chopper1]

thanks again echelon all good sound advice, i think i will look at the Galaxy or Nexus 7 though the £100 one on flea bay seems a good deal

[Detlef]

Or as Echelon said in an earlier post, you could add a USB GPS dongle* but you are on your own with regard to s/w that would interface with Co-Pilot.

* I've seen them for as little as US$30 which is a lot less than I paid about 7 years ago for one for my lappy when satnav was in its infancy. I still occasionally use it with Autoroute Express as it shows altitude as well.

[McrRed]

For what it's worth, if the tablet has Bluetooth, you can also get cheapish Bluetooth gps "dongles".

Ive got one that works really well with tomtom on an ipod.