VU+ Duo2

[ekko star]

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Clearly, a lot of enthusiasts are excited about the launch of this machine.

The finalised 'Consumer' hardware release of the Duo2 is now in full production.

For those that understand logistics, you will appreciate that the route to market is quite complex and is not merely about a factory producing the unit.

In the meantime to clear some confusion there are of course some sample, pre-production development units that are floating around. These are not the finalised consumer spec nor fully functional as the remote control supplied are old ones and some on-board hardware features will not be working entirely correctly i.e. wifi etc etc

I stress that they are pre-production units only and not the finalised consumer spec units. Third party images are also not yet fully finalised.

Furthermore, if you are pre-ordering please only do so from Authorised dealers such as the forum sponsor. This will ensure your machine is officially sourced through the Official UK Distribution.

For those that simply cannot wait.......

VU+ listened to feedback on the Qwerty style Ultimo remote. That was not the most ergonomic remote and most comfortable to use.

Here is the new actual Duo2 remote and as you can see it is a departure from the old tried and trusted design. The new remote is superb, having very tactile soft touch buttons and feels absolutely premium in hand.

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The consumer machine comes boxed in a premium style box. Once again a slight departure from before and a little bit more up market.

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The casing has a matt finish as opposed to the glossy fingerprint magnet of the Ultimo. This is just as well because the Duo2 is very much a hands on machine

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What hides behind the flap ? CI/Card slots and the Standby button

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A quick look at the rear...rest assured, socketry is plentiful. Nothing too much missing here

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Once the 'final' consumer spec machine (which will be fully functional) is 'permitted' as available by the powers that be, the full review will be published accordingly.

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In the meantime this is the final spec :

Features:

2 x Plug & Play tuner slots suitable for DVB-S2 / DVB-C / T / DVB-S2 Dual tuners
Transcoding function
Airplay function
Opera browser
HbbTV
HDMI 1.4 connection
HD PIP
Gigabit Lan
Plug and Play support for 2.5 "SATA - Hard Drives
2 x display (VFD and LCD)
WOL

Technical highlights VU+ Duo2:

1300 MHz dual-core MIPS processor
1GB Flash
2GB DDR3 DRAM
Gigabit Lan
2 x DVB Common Interface slot
2 x Smartcard-Reader (Xcrypt)
3 x USB (1 x front, 2 x back)
SPDIF audio output optical (digital)
1 x HDMI 1.4 video / audio output (digital)
1 x Scart (TV)
1 x RCA video output
2 x audio output (L / R) RCA (analog)
Plug and Play support for 2.5 and 3.5 "SATA - Hard Drives
unlimited channel lists for TV / Radio
EPG (electronic program guide) support
Support of Bouquet lists
OSD in many languages and skin-support
automatic / manual channel search
DiSEqC 1.0/1.1/1.2, USALS
Power switch
Specifications VU+ Duo2 DVB-S2 and DVB-S2 Dual Tuner:
Input Frequency Range 950 .. 2150 MHz
QPSK Demodulation EN 302 307
Signal Level - 65 dBm ... - 25 dBm
Noise Level 12 dB max.
DBS-Tuner Input Connector F-Type female
Input impedance 75 ohms
AFC capture range + / - 3 MHz
Demodulation Shaped QPSK and 8PSK
Viterbi and Reed-Solomon FEC
Viterbi rates 1/4, 1/3, 2/5, 1/2, 3/5, 2/3, 3/4, 4/5, 5/6, 8/9
Roll-off Factor 35%

DVB-C/T- hybrid tuner:
VHF channels: 2-12 (49 .. 230 MHz)
UHF channels: 21-69 (470 .. 861 MHz)
DVB-C HDTV compatible
Input frequency range: 51 .. 858 MHz
Symbol rate: 1 ... 7 Mbaud / s
Input Impedance: 75 ohms
Tuner In / Out connector: IEC
DVB-C / DVB-T can be selected via software

Common Interface: 2x Common Interface Power Consumption max. 0.35 A/5V

Video decoder:
Video Compression MPEG-2 / H.264 and MPEG-1 compatible
Video Standard PAL G / 25 Hz, NTSC
Video Formats 4:3 / 16:9
Letterbox for 4:3 TV-Device

Output digital:
Output Level 0,5 Vss on 75 Ohm
Sampling frequencies 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz
S / PDIF-Output optical, coaxial (AC3)
Audio decoder
Audio compression MPEG-1 & MPEG-2 Layer I and II, MP3
Audio Mode Dual (main / sub), Stereo
Sampling frequencies 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 16 kHz, 22:05 kHz, 24 kHz

Output analog:
Output Level L / R 0,5 Vss on 600 Ohm
THD> 60 dB (1 kHz)
Crosstalk <-65 dB
Video parameter:

Input Level FBAS 1 Vss + / - 0.25 dB on 75 Ohm

TV-Scart: Output: FBAS, RGB, over OSD selectable

Ethernet: 1000/100/10 MBit compatible interface

USB: USB 2.0 connector (3x)

LNB power and DVB-S2 tuner:
LNB Current 400mA max. , Short-circuit proof
LNB Voltage horizontal "no load 19.5V" 17,6 V at 400mA
LNB Voltage vertical "no load 14.5V" 11,8 V at 400mA
LNB is switched off in standby mode

Control of the satellite position:
DiSEqC 1.0/1.1/1.2 and USALS - Rotor Control

Power consumption:
<15W (in operation, with LNB)
<13W (in operation, without LNB)
<0.5 W (Deep-Standby-Mode)

Input voltage:
230V / 50 Hz alternating current + / - 15%
110V / 60 Hz alternating current + / - 15%

General:
Ambient Temperature +15 ° C. .. +35 ° C
Humidity <80%
Dimensions (W x D x H): 380 mm x 290 mm x 60 mm
Weight: 3,0 kg without HDD


PDF as attached

[ekko star]

I have now uploaded the Duo2 pdf.

Thanks

ES

[oldfart]

I guess 'NO' - but I'll ask anyway
does anyone know if the tuners (DVBS2) from the DM8000 will fit in the duo2??

[CokeAddict]

I guess 'NO' - but I'll ask anyway
does anyone know if the tuners (DVBS2) from the DM8000 will fit in the duo2??
afraid not.

[afterlife]

will the v box run in automatic mode. I understand that it has a problem with vu boxes. Can anybody confirm if they are compatable. My echostar has pack up and need to consider next setup.

[CokeAddict]

What do you mean in automatic mode ?

[gbmitie]

the big question is can you fit a DTT T2 tuner ie pick up freeview HD?

[CokeAddict]

the big question is can you fit a DTT T2 tuner ie pick up freeview HD?

You can use a usb T2 tuner, but there is no internal T2 tuner avaliable yet.

[afterlife]

The v box is set to automatic mode, therefor not needing to manually select a new sat when changing sats. It just goes to the preselected channel on whatever sat. But i was told the v box and the vu boxes cannot work in auto mode and that you need to manually ask the v box to go to your new selected sat.

[cosworth4x4]

The v box is set to automatic mode, therefor not needing to manually select a new sat when changing sats. It just goes to the preselected channel on whatever sat. But i was told the v box and the vu boxes cannot work in auto mode and that you need to manually ask the v box to go to your new selected sat.

they work perfectly with the v box , in fact it also works with 2 in a daisy-chain with 2 actuators.

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?161946-Channel-master-mount-modified-for-inclined-sats

[ekko star]

A UK launch date is now known but there will be a further communicae tomorrow.

[crabber]

Could you guys lucky enough to have a Duo2 already please keep me informed about the trans-coding feature, in particular if and when the variable bit and frame rate controls are added. My only gripe with the solo2 is that the trans-coding is fixed at 500 kbps and cannot be changed, (or so they say) this would be a brilliant feature for me.

[sonic1]

No problem m8, I will keep in touch.

[pheonix]

Could you guys lucky enough to have a Duo2 already please keep me informed about the trans-coding feature, in particular if and when the variable bit and frame rate controls are added. My only gripe with the solo2 is that the trans-coding is fixed at 500 kbps and cannot be changed, (or so they say) this would be a brilliant feature for me.

just look at the changelog for the latest drivers for the answer to that.




20130703(duo2)
- Support transcoding bit/frame rate change(100K< bitrate< 5M, framerate=23976 24000 29970 30000 59940 60000 )
- Enable SD video when transcoding

[ekko star]

Have been informed the official UK launch date is confirmed and expected as no later than the 17th July.

The machine itself is ready to be distributed however the delays are being caused by the supply of the new remote control.

Everything is being done by VU+ to expedite the supply of the remote controls at the moment. All countries are in the same position and if there is any movement to that date all efforts will of course be to bring it forward.

You can also now find the Original image for download on the official site and third party images such as BH should also become publicly available from today.

[cosworth4x4]

17th has arrived so im assuming they will be with the dealer tomorrow????, a mate in germany received his a week or so back from main distributor with a voucher to claim the new style remote once its available , why can this not be done in the uk .

only putting this question to you as you seem to have inside info on release dates , even if so far not been too accurate.

p.s i pre ordered with goldwafers and im happy to wait on their date.

[pheonix]

17th has arrived so im assuming they will be with the dealer tomorrow????,

sadly no, and i firmly believe it has nothing at all to do with the supply of lack of the new remote but more to do with the fact that they released the box without proper QC as they were basically badgered into releasing by the german retailers. because of this subsequent issues have been found, hence why there is a new bootloader out already. ( This is just my own personal opinion ).

all the information available at the moment says that stock to the uk will be delayed until the end of july.

p.s dont believe this guy has some kind of inside knowledge, he originally told every one the box was going to be launched back in march, your supplier will know more about whats going on than this bloke.

[cosworth4x4]

thanks i sort of worked that out already , i have no doubt at all with goldwafers , reason for my reply.:respect-054:

[pheonix]

It will get there just needs a few niggles ironing out and sadly that's all too common a thing now if you ask me.

Vu used to once upon a time use a small closed beta team ( no not me or any Image team for that matter, but professional beta testers ) who would iron most if not all the niggles out before public launch, in fact it was thanks to those 6 guys that the Ultimo was redesigned before launch as issues were found by them, now however Vu seem to be going the same way as others in that they release before getting those niggles out of the way and leave it to the end users to find / report. ( again just my own personal opinion ).

[cosworth4x4]

:respect-055:

[pheonix]

in fact it was thanks to those 6 guys that the Ultimo was redesigned before launch .

one was prob who thanked you above , :respect-054: not me :):)

LOL well i know four of them but the other two have eluded me LOL.

And dont get me wrong i'm not trying to dissuade any one from buying Vu boxes, hell i have 5 my self but it's starting to get annoying to see them go down this current route especially when i know there is a list literally as long as my arm of outstanding issues going all the way back to the Duo. I mean just look at the ultimo, we were all told that half of it's 1 GB ram was being held back for "later use", but now there actually ceasing production of that receiver and still no sign of this "hidden" memory any where.

[cosworth4x4]

my cock up , just spoke to him :cheers2:

[CokeAddict]

I'm interested to know what issue's you have heard about with the Duo2 ?

As for the Ultimo's hidden memory i've no idea, and I get why you find it frustrating, but is there anything on the market that can compete with the Solo2 or Duo2 right now ?

[pheonix]

There are no huge gaping issues with the Duo2 that i know of but it is very surprising that a new bootloader has been issued in little over a week after it's initial launch to the German market for the wake on lan feature, this is something i firmly believe should have been discovered and rectified prior to launch.

The main thing that surprises me is that the big selling point ( the LCD ) is powered by a thirdparty plugin rather than by drivers and as such uses masses of the boxes processing power to run it ( 10 percent from what i have been told ). I just dont believe the delay is due to a remote control, they managed to release the Uno with the wrong remote and that didnt hold up production so why with this receiver ?.

as for competition, well the closest thing would be the Gigablue Quad which runs the exact same CPU as the solo2 but thats not without it's own issues although it has been on the market for a lot longer than the solo2.

[CokeAddict]

There are no huge gaping issues with the Duo2 that i know of but it is very surprising that a new bootloader has been issued in little over a week after it's initial launch to the German market for the wake on lan feature, this is something i firmly believe should have been discovered and rectified prior to launch.

The main thing that surprises me is that the big selling point ( the LCD ) is powered by a thirdparty plugin rather than by drivers and as such uses masses of the boxes processing power to run it ( 10 percent from what i have been told ). I just dont believe the delay is due to a remote control, they managed to release the Uno with the wrong remote and that didnt hold up production so why with this receiver ?.

as for competition, well the closest thing would be the Gigablue Quad which runs the exact same CPU as the solo2 but thats not without it's own issues although it has been on the market for a lot longer than the solo2.

I don't see the cfe update as a big deal, but I guess it could be annoying to some, I didn't even know there was a wake on lan feature tbh.

The lcd I guess was just easier to use the plugin thats been out there for a while now, and is probably where there inspiration came from anyway. I doubt in use the cpu is being used that much, but maybe there is a large spike when making changes.

As for the remote, I also heard that the german units are being shipped with the "universal" remotes, and a voucher to claim the new remote when they are avaliable. Maybe the uk distributor wants to wait for the new remotes to arrive, so that A) they don't have to ship out a **** load of remotes later on and B) so that they can keep all the brand new "universal" remotes to sell on seperately at a later date, making them a tidy profit (hey what can I say, i'm a cynic :D).

[ekko star]

Update: UK stock is due in on Tues 23rd / Weds 24th July

[cosworth4x4]

its getting a bit like the lottery , but the odds are better we know its coming so if you keep predicting a date you guaranteed to get it right in the end.

[ekko star]

Sorry guys, been a bit thinly spread this week and have not been updating here.

As explained in the opening post bringing such a product to launch involves a huge amount of work and effort. The demand is unprecedented and the situation has been pretty dynamic this week.

Update: Mon 15th July, EU countries were advised to await a further announcement on the 19th July

Update: Friday 19th July, UK release being confirmed as next week. Delivery date Tues 23rd/ Weds 24th July

The Duo2 is the VU+ Flagship and without doubt the machine you've all been waiting for. If you thought the weather has been hot, then wait till you get your hands on this scorcher :)

It is also somewhat surprising to read here of rumours of Quality control et al? Needless to say you can safely dispel all of that ill-informed nonsense as utter crass.

1st batches will be limited and in order to avoid disappointment please liaise with your Authorised local retailer. Authorised outlets will be issued stock exclusively through the VU+ Official UK Distributor channel.

Goldwafers the forum sponsor is a preferred retailer so if you have pre-ordered you're in good hands. If you haven't, get your orders in now. Lee is a top man :respect-048:

Thanks for your patience guys.

ES

[cosworth4x4]

Update: Mon 15th July, EU countries were advised to await a further announcement on the 19th July


but its been available in other eu countries before that date.

[nico]

Can't wait thinking of definately getting one of these.

[ekko star]

Update: but its been available in other eu countries before that date.

No EU country has had distributed the complete final consumer package before this date. The 'grey' imports have only come supplied with the old remotes, cfe updates etc. It goes without saying the sensible consumer advice has been to await the official route and final consumer machine.

If you have pre-ordered then start contacting your individual retailers with regards your orders this week. I would imagine UK Authorised retailers should now (or at least by tomorrow) have been informed of the Duo2 activity of this coming week.

If you have not pre-ordered already I would suggest that you do so as soon as possible. The demand for this machine is unprecedented across the whole of the EU and it is the only sensible way of securing a machine and avoiding disappointment in future batches.

The VU+ Duo2 is the flagship of the VU range. It really is a high quality receiver and one I am sure not only will you really enjoy but feel privileged to own as well.

In the meantime thanks for all your patience guys.

ES

[cosworth4x4]

No EU country has had distributed the complete final consumer package

nobody has said they have, but only a remote and a update is not to big a deal .

and aint it a badge on the front .

[digicon]

I dont understand the Complete Final package part why release a product into other EU country's when its not finished, as for the unprecedented demand part i see plenty of online retailers with stock still no wonder with how much it costs. Dont get me wrong it looks like a fantastic bit of Kit and i am sure those who are getting one will love it but for me its way overpriced almost as if Vu have taken over Dream Multimedia's crown so to speak and followed there pricing structure.

I may get one when the UK are out of recession and food banks are a thing of the past

[ekko star]

Update : UK shipment is confirmed for Weds 24th.

Please follow up with sponsor Goldwafers from Thursday....

[Phylos]

Do Goldwafers actually have a physical shop? Is it in Warrington?

[crabber]

I think Lee sells delivery only, but not sure so it may be worth contacting him to check. I have bought enough from him over the years to know that he can be trusted, I have sent payment for a box last week in an effort to be in a good place in the queue for early dispatch.

[ekko star]

Goldwafers are a reputable company and Lee is to be trusted and will look after you.

Genuine stock, genuine machines, genuine service. No Grey imports, no missing remotes, no vouchers, no funny business etc etc

100% Genuine UK VU+Duo2

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?162271-Vu-Duo2-Pre-order-£449-00-including-delivery-to-Mainland-UK

[Lavaman]

So the voucher to claim your remote control that was provided by VU+ themselves is funny business? The remotes on the already released version is not missing, they have simply been provided with the standard VU+ universal remote control which is the owners to keep and a voucher code for the owner to claim their new style remote control when available which is looking like very soon given the main stock is arriving. By all means keep members informed of stock dates etc. (though I'm quite sure Lee is more than capable of this himself as he already has done) but please don't try to tell anyone that the very small amount of stock that has already entered the market is anything but 100% genuine.

[Phylos]

I'm still wondering whether to replace my DM8000 with one of these. Yes it is faster but does it offer enough features over the Dreambox to be worth upgrading at present? I'm not so sure...

[ekko star]

the very small amount of stock that has already entered the market is anything but 100% genuine.

I'm afraid any stock to which you are referring is simply not genuine UK stock. It never has been. They could be development units, Grey imports or have come through a variety of other colourful sources. Certainly not product destined for these shores through VU+.

If you wish to buy a unit through such means and find a voucher inside which you will have to reclaim from the particular retailer that is entirely up to you and at your own risk. Any warranty will also be with that retailer.

The majority of consumers simply wouldn't and don't find what you are saying acceptable and quite obviously for very good reason.

This is a premium machine from a premium manufacturer. You are paying good money and you expect to get just that - including something as basic as the correct remote inside. Best stick to 100% Genuine UK Machine from the sponsor.

[ekko star]

I'm still wondering whether to replace my DM8000 with one of these. Yes it is faster but does it offer enough features over the Dreambox to be worth upgrading at present? I'm not so sure...

Hi, that's a great question that's already crossed my mind. I am currently trying to address it in my write up review.

[Lavaman]

The onus to provide warranty is always with the supplying retailer no matter what, since you are so keen to quote UK specific perhaps it would also be wise to actually understand UK law.

The small batch that had been made available is indeed 100% genuine stock distributed by the official Vu+ channel in Germany and fully covered by a hardware guarantee, to suggest anything otherwise would be incorrect.

As this first small batch seems to have sold out in most places already this is kind of academic now but I just felt the point needed to be made to address some of the inaccuracies being branded around.

No doubt all of us that have these on order though and await their arrival still wait in anticipation for what looks to be a great receiver.

[ekko star]

The point you are trying to make is academic, applies to a level of one off stock that a few German retailers got a hold of to which you cannot provide any provenance or proof of supply. Such was the demand and desperation for units it is impossible to say where they were sourced from and through what means. At best they could be described as 'grey stock' and if they have found their way into other markets then probably best described as 'grey imports'.

If you have ended up with a voucher from a German retailer then it is best you now contact them directly as your German warranty and contract remains with them. From what I know of current remote stock levels your assumption of redeeming a remote anytime soon or this week is also inaccurate.

Furthermore you appear to be completely ignoring the fact 100% Genuine UK Stock deemed by VU for the UK is only being released this week. Other EU countries will also follow suit respectively including Germany. These units come complete including the genuine Duo2 accessories such as the new remote control.

The sponsor Goldwafers are a longstanding Authorised VU+ reseller of good repute. It goes without saying if you wish to avoid any doubt whatsoever in securing a Genuine UK machine, it's a great place to order from.

I trust this now puts the matter to rest.

Thanks

ES

[Lavaman]

By keep saying the same thing over again does not make it anymore true than the first time it was said and also makes for a fairly pointless discussion especially when in part you are now agreeing on some points and in others that don't suit the agenda completely ignoring their mention. I think members will be well informed enough by now to make up their own minds on what is correct.

Academic now anyway as I already said. Roll on the end of the week.

[crabber]

I'm still wondering whether to replace my DM8000 with one of these. Yes it is faster but does it offer enough features over the Dreambox to be worth upgrading at present? I'm not so sure...

I suppose it depends on how much you are prepared to spend and which features are important to you. As I spend several months abroad each year I particularly want the streaming feature with adjustable bit rate for my slow upload speed. This is the only box that will do this at present. The wake on LAN feature will be useful for me as well, as I will retain my 8000 as my main box.
The 8000 has a DVD player which may be important for some, although I fear that dreambox are finished and support will decrease.

[Phylos]

I have installed a DVD drive in my DM8000 but I rarely if ever use it (those duties fall to my Oppo BDP-93).

I suspect it's going to be some time until 4k / Ultra HD is widely broadcast in terms of waiting for a next generation box. I'm not sure if Dream Multimedia have anything concrete in the pipeline as regards future boxes.

Perhaps if the Vu+ did 4:2:2 I'd be more tempted.

[crabber]

Yes good point, I wonder what the issues were that prevented 4:2:2, you would think that a manufacturer striving to make the best box available would have included as many facilities as possible. Still I expect people like me who have thrown money at this hobby over the years already have something capable of 4:2:2, I have a media centre with SS2 card gathering dust.

Edit, without wishing to stray off topic I am not sure that DMM have any new boxes planned at all? although there has been an announcement of extra memory in some I think.

[ekko star]

By keep saying the same thing over again does not make it anymore true than the first time it was said and also makes for a fairly pointless discussion.

Indeed, so please stop now trying to justify your comments by trying to confuse the agenda regarding the validity of ‘grey stock’ otherwise. It’s completely pointless and as you say yourself academic, unless of course that is/was your intention to create academic debate or perhaps impatience had simply got the better of you.

At best your comments relate to one-off German retailers that could only have sourced through a ‘grey supply’ channel and onwardly part bundled ‘grey’ stock with old remotes. It is absurd to suggest VU+ or any other mainstream manufacturer would condone launching such a machine bundled with a voucher. In fact I’ve never heard of the manufacturer sanctioning it nor come to think of it any other manufacturer in the history of all satellite receivers who would even consider doing that.

The new remote is an integral part of the machine and your points are inaccurate. There has simply been no Genuine UK stock at all made available nor to any other countries prior to this week and the original post to this thread makes clear as to why such situations arose.

I’m pretty sure the sensible folk that peruse these forums will see (without too much difficulty) the sense and benefit of buying Genuine UK stock through someone like Goldwafers.

Thanks

ES

[echelon]

I think this tennis match over "grey imports" discussion needs to stop now

its been done to death so lets hear no more about it, or the past, whats done is done

any further posts on this disagreement will be deleted

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members on here are due to receive their new duo2 from UK suppliers very soon now, including goldwafers

all my vu boxes have come from lee at goldwafers and I would recommend that any future purchaser consider goldwafers for their uk based retailer products

you know you are getting the "real deal" from goldwafers , from a company thats been around a long time, and any problems he will sort you out and under the uk laws and trading rules

why anyone would wish to pre-empt this by buying one from germany or mars or the planet klingon or Zog is beyond me !

so leave it now and from now on only discuss the uk version of the duo2 as supplied by UK traders like goldwafers

[ekko star]

Perhaps if the Vu+ did 4:2:2 I'd be more tempted.

Hi Phylos, the DM8000 remains a venerable machine. The VU+ range does however have immense support in both images/plug-ins that is proving difficult to ignore. Both now and going forward.

Whilst the DM8000 is sadly no longer in production support is still plentiful. Not sure if you’re a fan of Peter Pan images but they recently launched Aurora Dreams 3.0 which is perhaps worth a try.

[crabber]

Does anyone know what the issue is with 4:2:2 is it something technical, software or hardware missing or just considered unnecessary?

[digicon]

Does anyone know what the issue is with 4:2:2 is it something technical, software or hardware missing or just considered unnecessary?

The AZbox had it but sadly only clone versions of these receivers exist, I suppose most manufacturers feel there is not a need for it with the limited channels that actually use it. You can of course still access them via the Duo2 as with any linux Enigma1/2 machine and playback via a PC/Laptop over network

[ekko star]

Guys, I will post the Duo2 review here tonight.

I've been waiting on a separate consignment which the postman has kindly just delivered. Having no idea what that was, I can see why now....very, very nice. I'll include pics later.

Thanks

ES

[voyager1972]

looking forward to it,,,thanks again

[kota]

Guys, I will post the Duo2 review here tonight.

I've been waiting on a separate consignment which the postman has kindly just delivered. Having no idea what that was, I can see why now....very, very nice. I'll include pics later.

Thanks

ES

it would be interesting if you could highlight the less obvious differences between the new box when compared to the Solo2 you've also reviewed sometime ago.

Cheers

[CokeAddict]

Hey ekko star, these new remotes, i've heard there is no subtitle button on them.

Is this true ??

[cosworth4x4]

is the review going to get delayed ? like the release dates?

[bobby1234]

it would be interesting if you could highlight the less obvious differences between the new box when compared to the Solo2 you've also reviewed sometime ago.

Cheers

The Vu+ Duo2 review at linux-tvdotcom has a comparison between Duo2 and Solo2

[donki]

Review & Comparison _http://lin*x-tv.com/receiver/vu-duo2-review/

_http://www.y*utube.com/watch?v=AyGz0wyvfZI#at=25

PS: Mine is not coming today. Postal delivery van has just been and gone :toetap05:

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[bobby1234]

Hey ekko star, these new remotes, i've heard there is no subtitle button on them.

Is this true ??

Yes no dedicated subtitle button

[voyager1972]

Guys, I will post the Duo2 review here tonight.

I've been waiting on a separate consignment which the postman has kindly just delivered. Having no idea what that was, I can see why now....very, very nice. I'll include pics later.

Thanks

ESany sign of the reviews,,,,,,im like a kid waiting on santa..........

[cosworth4x4]

Santa maybe here before the review :)

[voyager1972]

and i see the receiver,s are delayed again,,,for a few days .......

[ekko star]

Sorry guys have been mega busy (as you can imagine).

There are no more delays the Duo2 is defo in the UK and it is now all down to local distribution as of yesterday.

The review will go out here first, so keep your eyes peeled this evening/tonight.

Thanks for your patience.

ES

[DARKMAN]

I dont understand the Complete Final package part why release a product into other EU country's when its not finished, as for the unprecedented demand part i see plenty of online retailers with stock still no wonder with how much it costs. Dont get me wrong it looks like a fantastic bit of Kit and i am sure those who are getting one will love it but for me its way overpriced almost as if Vu have taken over Dream Multimedia's crown so to speak and followed there pricing structure.

I may get one when the UK are out of recession and food banks are a thing of the past




Only one EU country has the product without RCU and Without Tuner.( tuners been add separately without test ) That is been done by mistake...Product is not even been checked proper !

UK did not expect goods in that stage without proper checked all issues.That's why UK is the Only country now to have the right product....

DUO2 with New RCU + Twin Tuner direct from factory..
But this product will stay for UK- R.Ireland only dealers and customers.


Vu Plus UK Says:
We thanks for the patience and we commander only dealer talking about UK and Ireland not the who talk for EU Grey or not grue products.

The Sponsor here is GoldWafer please be patine by Monday your boxes will be shift for sure.

Have a nice day to all .....

[DARKMAN]

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6404/lfum.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/lfum.jpg/)
Clearly, a lot of enthusiasts are excited about the launch of this machine.

The finalised 'Consumer' hardware release of the Duo2 is now in full production.

For those that understand logistics, you will appreciate that the route to market is quite complex and is not merely about a factory producing the unit.

In the meantime to clear some confusion there are of course some sample, pre-production development units that are floating around. These are not the finalised consumer spec nor fully functional as the remote control supplied are old ones and some on-board hardware features will not be working entirely correctly i.e. wifi etc etc

I stress that they are pre-production units only and not the finalised consumer spec units. Third party images are also not yet fully finalised.

Furthermore, if you are pre-ordering please only do so from Authorised dealers such as the forum sponsor. This will ensure your machine is officially sourced through the Official UK Distribution.

For those that simply cannot wait.......

VU+ listened to feedback on the Qwerty style Ultimo remote. That was not the most ergonomic remote and most comfortable to use.

Here is the new actual Duo2 remote and as you can see it is a departure from the old tried and trusted design. The new remote is superb, having very tactile soft touch buttons and feels absolutely premium in hand.

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/986/30z0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/30z0.jpg/)

The consumer machine comes boxed in a premium style box. Once again a slight departure from before and a little bit more up market.

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8974/55nk.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/55nk.jpg/)

The casing has a matt finish as opposed to the glossy fingerprint magnet of the Ultimo. This is just as well because the Duo2 is very much a hands on machine

http://imageshack.us/a/img14/9646/qopv.jpg

What hides behind the flap ? CI/Card slots and the Standby button

http://imageshack.us/a/img593/8900/3g1c.jpg

A quick look at the rear...rest assured, socketry is plentiful. Nothing too much missing here

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5520/p7o3.jpg

Once the 'final' consumer spec machine (which will be fully functional) is 'permitted' as available by the powers that be, the full review will be published accordingly.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3723/ttqy.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/ttqy.jpg/)

In the meantime this is the final spec :

Features:

2 x Plug & Play tuner slots suitable for DVB-S2 / DVB-C / T / DVB-S2 Dual tuners
Transcoding function
Airplay function
Opera browser
HbbTV
HDMI 1.4 connection
HD PIP
Gigabit Lan
Plug and Play support for 2.5 "SATA - Hard Drives
2 x display (VFD and LCD)
WOL

Technical highlights VU+ Duo2:

1300 MHz dual-core MIPS processor
1GB Flash
2GB DDR3 DRAM
Gigabit Lan
2 x DVB Common Interface slot
2 x Smartcard-Reader (Xcrypt)
3 x USB (1 x front, 2 x back)
SPDIF audio output optical (digital)
1 x HDMI 1.4 video / audio output (digital)
1 x Scart (TV)
1 x RCA video output
2 x audio output (L / R) RCA (analog)
Plug and Play support for 2.5 and 3.5 "SATA - Hard Drives
unlimited channel lists for TV / Radio
EPG (electronic program guide) support
Support of Bouquet lists
OSD in many languages and skin-support
automatic / manual channel search
DiSEqC 1.0/1.1/1.2, USALS
Power switch
Specifications VU+ Duo2 DVB-S2 and DVB-S2 Dual Tuner:
Input Frequency Range 950 .. 2150 MHz
QPSK Demodulation EN 302 307
Signal Level - 65 dBm ... - 25 dBm
Noise Level 12 dB max.
DBS-Tuner Input Connector F-Type female
Input impedance 75 ohms
AFC capture range + / - 3 MHz
Demodulation Shaped QPSK and 8PSK
Viterbi and Reed-Solomon FEC
Viterbi rates 1/4, 1/3, 2/5, 1/2, 3/5, 2/3, 3/4, 4/5, 5/6, 8/9
Roll-off Factor 35%

DVB-C/T- hybrid tuner:
VHF channels: 2-12 (49 .. 230 MHz)
UHF channels: 21-69 (470 .. 861 MHz)
DVB-C HDTV compatible
Input frequency range: 51 .. 858 MHz
Symbol rate: 1 ... 7 Mbaud / s
Input Impedance: 75 ohms
Tuner In / Out connector: IEC
DVB-C / DVB-T can be selected via software

Common Interface: 2x Common Interface Power Consumption max. 0.35 A/5V

Video decoder:
Video Compression MPEG-2 / H.264 and MPEG-1 compatible
Video Standard PAL G / 25 Hz, NTSC
Video Formats 4:3 / 16:9
Letterbox for 4:3 TV-Device

Output digital:
Output Level 0,5 Vss on 75 Ohm
Sampling frequencies 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz
S / PDIF-Output optical, coaxial (AC3)
Audio decoder
Audio compression MPEG-1 & MPEG-2 Layer I and II, MP3
Audio Mode Dual (main / sub), Stereo
Sampling frequencies 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 16 kHz, 22:05 kHz, 24 kHz

Output analog:
Output Level L / R 0,5 Vss on 600 Ohm
THD> 60 dB (1 kHz)
Crosstalk <-65 dB
Video parameter:

Input Level FBAS 1 Vss + / - 0.25 dB on 75 Ohm

TV-Scart: Output: FBAS, RGB, over OSD selectable

Ethernet: 1000/100/10 MBit compatible interface

USB: USB 2.0 connector (3x)

LNB power and DVB-S2 tuner:
LNB Current 400mA max. , Short-circuit proof
LNB Voltage horizontal "no load 19.5V" 17,6 V at 400mA
LNB Voltage vertical "no load 14.5V" 11,8 V at 400mA
LNB is switched off in standby mode

Control of the satellite position:
DiSEqC 1.0/1.1/1.2 and USALS - Rotor Control

Power consumption:
<15W (in operation, with LNB)
<13W (in operation, without LNB)
<0.5 W (Deep-Standby-Mode)

Input voltage:
230V / 50 Hz alternating current + / - 15%
110V / 60 Hz alternating current + / - 15%

General:
Ambient Temperature +15 ° C. .. +35 ° C
Humidity <80%
Dimensions (W x D x H): 380 mm x 290 mm x 60 mm
Weight: 3,0 kg without HDD


PDF as attached


Excellent review like always.Thanks.

[cosworth4x4]

ekko you have not done yourself any favors with the dates , perhaps its been bad info from bosses above , lets hope it arrives next week :respect-055:

[cosworth4x4]

Excellent review like always.Thanks.

i guess that review was not done on a uk version , as a repeat of the first post dated 30/6/13.

[voyager1972]

maybe tomorrow then?????

[ekko star]

...and review now up

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?162674-VU-Duo2-Review&p=880917#post880917

Enjoy

ES

[crabber]

Lee has just posted that stock has arrived and will be dispatched tomorrow. I had to stop myself from ringing him to see if the boxes had arrived, didn't want to hold him up if he was in the process of packing my box up ready to send to me. Hope I am one of the first in the queue, hint hint !!

[donki]

Hope I am one of the first in the queue, hint hint !!

As long as you're behind me I fully support your hope. :)

I am really excited now!!!

Reminder Don't forget to do the CFE V2 bootloader update. :)

[LeeGW]

When you receive your boxes remember to update the Bootloader first before installing your new image.

Download the CFE_V2 Bootloader Here
https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?162271-Vu-Duo2-Pre-order-£449-00-including-delivery-to-Mainland-UK&p=881154&viewfull=1#post881154

Cheers

Lee.

[DARKMAN]

i guess that review was not done on a uk version , as a repeat of the first post dated 30/6/13.

Does not matter the date of the Post he Is is Wrting English not Korean or German.........The Guy who done is British not Korea or Germany.. No idea what do you mean is not UK version ! DO you mean in UK no one has DUO 2?

Just to guaranty you i had them long long time ago much more before then you even could imagine together with many others STB are still not release now.

have nice day....

[cosworth4x4]

Does not matter the date of the Post he Is is Wrting English not Korean or German.........The Guy who done is British not Korea or Germany.. No idea what do you mean is not UK version ! DO you mean in UK no one has DUO 2?

Just to guaranty you i had them long long time ago much more before then you even could imagine together with many others STB are still not release now.

have nice day....


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Indeed, so please stop now trying to justify your comments by trying to confuse the agenda regarding the validity of ‘grey stock’ otherwise. It’s completely pointless and as you say yourself academic, unless of course that is/was your intention to create academic debate or perhaps impatience had simply got the better of you.

At best your comments relate to one-off German retailers that could only have sourced through a ‘grey supply’ channel and onwardly part bundled ‘grey’ stock with old remotes. It is absurd to suggest VU+ or any other mainstream manufacturer would condone launching such a machine bundled with a voucher. In fact I’ve never heard of the manufacturer sanctioning it nor come to think of it any other manufacturer in the history of all satellite receivers who would even consider doing that.

The new remote is an integral part of the machine and your points are inaccurate. There has simply been no Genuine UK stock at all made available nor to any other countries prior to this week and the original post to this thread makes clear as to why such situations arose.

I’m pretty sure the sensible folk that peruse these forums will see (without too much difficulty) the sense and benefit of buying Genuine UK stock through someone like Goldwafers.


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Only one EU country has the product without RCU and Without Tuner.( tuners been add separately without test ) That is been done by mistake...Product is not even been checked proper !

UK did not expect goods in that stage without proper checked all issues.That's why UK is the Only country now to have the right product....

DUO2 with New RCU + Twin Tuner direct from factory..
But this product will stay for UK- R.Ireland only dealers and customers.


Vu Plus UK Says:
We thanks for the patience and we commander only dealer talking about UK and Ireland not the who talk for EU Grey or not grue products.


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sorry ech i know you wanted no further comments on the subject but someone could not let it lie.

The above comments were from(darkman) you and ekko.

I have no doubt you had one a long time ago i know other people who did.

youre posts seem to conflict each other.

im sure everyone following this topic can read what i have.

[echelon]

this thread has now run its course

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