DR.HD D15 receiver - best box for DX'ing ??

[ManikM]

ive been reading up on this box, and one place is selling em for £99

the tuner is supposed to be REALLY sensitive and is great for DX'ing - also has a build in spectrum analyser graph thingy (gimmick i guess)

_http://www.dr-hd.com/product/receivers/dr-hd-d15-detail.html

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URSt7bBTN-4


think i might get this for my 2nd box

[skomedal]

"" the tuner is supposed to be REALLY sensitive ""

More tuner hype,,,,,, seems to be a strong and desperate selling point with STB producers now, but is it good for fringe reception.

Recently bought the TM 5402 hd because of this hype only to prove my old hummy 2000hd received better lock on with fringe reception.

Think I will upgrade my dish to gibby 135 ( now TM 100 ) for better fringe reception.

Talking astra 2F @ 28.2E in central southern norway,,, as read on this forum "" DISH SIZE DOES MATTER ""

Regards

[ManikM]

fair enuf mate, i was expecting good things from this box, ive only got an XTREND and an AZBOX to go by
why arent there any E2 boxes with sensitive tuners!!!

[echelon]

dish size has always mattered, but especially so in this case, and the lnb can also play a part in this too, as the ultra black is more sensitive than most

I have found that the spiderbox (7000 and 9000) seem to have sensitive tuners and can usually pick up and lock onto signals that other boxes I have used struggle with or fail to lock onto, not saying the 6000 is like this but just what I have noticed when using different boxes. this does not constitute a full or valid test as I have no access to boxes etc

I thought the dr hd and tm5402 and bm7000s were all made in the same factory - seem to have read something about it somewhere anyway

but my thoughts are only that, not a definitive guide on the subject, especially as I tend to stick to the main channels with excellent reception here in the uk (and not norway)

[jamsb]

Your right echelon.

I think they are all clones

[digihoe]

Also use as short cable from the lnb to the box as possible, I sometime use a motor, but with a twin lnb so that I can get better reception on the second output, sometime the reception can differ 20%, that's a lock or no lock for some channels for me...

[ManikM]

Also use as short cable from the lnb to the box as possible, I sometime use a motor, but with a twin lnb so that I can get better reception on the second output, sometime the reception can differ 20%, that's a lock or no lock for some channels for me...
I dont beleive thats true I will test as I have twin lnb

(well, not 20%)

[satwyn]

I dont beleive thats true I will test as I have twin lnbquite possible the signal will improve when by passing the diseqc motor don't use them myself so can't test

[ManikM]

I think its neglible. I will test when I get home

[clipper]

my general view is the DR is good value for money
iv'e had a dr hd d15 for sometime and find it
very good on weak sats/signals etc: there is
plenty of support for patches etc: and at £99
post free it has to be one of the cheapest boxes
ever, the quality is also very good and as already
said the tm blade and the dr are made in the same
factory,and i wondered if they are clones of the tm
but as they all come from the same place are they all
tm products who knows? my works via a v-box and
has no problems moving a 1.2 chn master dish on
diseqc 1.2 settings. the menus are user friendly and
the box looks the same as a blade receiver, i also have
a vu uno and this box on sats like 7w gives a stronger signal
but having said that i have found over the years linux tuners
are not as strong as other non linux boxes iv'e had

[ManikM]

Thanks , finally some input and discussion on topic, although the bit about the vu uno is slightly contradictory

[clipper]

i find the uno not as good on sats like
7w and 26e for signal strength, the dr
is about 10% better, but just the same on the
main sats from the uk. but the vu quality
picture sound etc: is second to none and
i have changed the uno tuner to see if that had a
problem, but for me the DR is a very good box
user friendly and for me the menus and info bar
look more like a linux box than any other sd box
iv'e tested, i would not hesitate to recommend
the DR hd d15 it works more or less as a TM5402
but it's £40 cheaper or is it's present price a intro
and it could then go up

[ManikM]

Thanks clipper. Top man. Might be handy then for the footy. Cheers

[clipper]

i dont have a bad signal from 7w with a 1.2 chn master dish in the north west, i get about 600 chns but i cant scan jsc hd 6 in but i am getting my lnb change then it could be a bit better i hope,lol before this lnb problem the vu gave about 49/50% and the DR was about 8 or 9 % higher but both struggled if it was very cloudy or
heavy rain

[skomedal]

So with the 1.2 chn master dish and an iffy LNB at your location mostly only fair weather reception from 7W on both receivers, will be interesting to hear results after new LNB is fitted.
Keep us updated.

Regards

[clipper]

from my position it says at least a 1.5/1.8 dish is needed
i can still get many chns open like fox movies etc in poor or rainy conditions. but chns like jsc are on one of the other sats at 7w and that beam not as good from the north west of the uk

[digihoe]

I dont beleive thats true I will test as I have twin lnb

(well, not 20%)

In all fairness I said it could be up to 20%, but this is with diffrent recivers and diffrent cable length, also I was talking about fringe reception and that means a whole lot depending on transponder, it , eans no lock and or no break ups in the picture. Most splitters have a loss of up to 3db, so therfor the best solution will always be one, well isolated, uncut, short cable.

Good luck with the dxing!

[AndyX]

I am using the Dr-HD D15 for multi-satellite scanning. I have found good points and bad points. I was using a Technomate TM6900 and I have found the D15 to be a little more sensitive than the Technomate but, even if it cannot display the signal it can still detect the name of the channel which is useful if the dish needs fine tuning to increase the signal. The blind search, once started is very fast. A delay in commencing search has been corrected in the latest firmware. NTSC channels have smooth display in pal. Start up from off is very fast compared to the Azbox Linux receiver I dumped in frustration due to its clumsy software.

On the negative side, it comes with a European mains plug, the spectrum analiser graph is harder to interpret than the simple Technomate one and it is not possible to move the dish in spectrum mode yet due to a software fault. Software updates are coming out at least one a month so hopefully this will be resolved.

Channel lists from the Technomates are compatible with this receiver. One thing to note is the safetys are off in the software. If you delete transponder it does not ask ..."are you sure" !...it just deletes. This means deleting transponders for a clean blind span is very quick.

The price is very good for what you get, even better now there is £20 off the price I paid!

[digicon]

I had both an F15 the older brother to the D15 which i loved which i never sold it now and the last one i had was the grand triple which was the Flagship model sold this due to the fact it was **** poor compared to the F15 hardly any updates to say it was the Flagship all support seems to be for the baby of the troop the D15 so if you buy one you should be AOK.

The faults are compared to the 5402 which i have gone back to is if you want to do a Multiscan of all satellites you can only do 1 at a time on the Dr's on the 5402 you just tick every satellite you need and let the box move dish and scan and go off and have a brew, You cant turn the Softcam feature off which you can on the 5402 if your that way inclined which i am. They also took nearly 4 months to get the Skylink patch worked in which the TM's had 4 months earlier pretty much the same now 2 models of the TM range have the UPC EMU working yet none of the Dr HD series have poor support IMHO.

There area few other niggles the blindscan misses TP's which i am sure can be fixed but so does the 5402 but the 5302/5502 work perfect on the TM side.

The Tuner sensitivity is great i must admit, But when i had my Solo2 with the FPGA upgrade it could pick channels up that the Grand could not so swings and roundabouts really.

£99 its a good buy for a mess about Dxer box but dont expect miracles which only a bigger dish can achieve

[ManikM]

thanks, im gonna order one today! just as a 2nd box - and for occasions when im on 35-40% signal on my Xtrend on Nilesat

[Coastman]

Had one for a couple of weeks but have been trying to set time aside to set it up but now i have seen in andy x post about the tm channel list can put in which is a fantastic bit of info as i have 5402hd so will now be easier. Looking forward to compare the tuner against the tm one although not sure as to where latest patch/softcam etc.

[ManikM]

on order now.

will update you on how i get on in a few days!

[ManikM]

quite possible the signal will improve when by passing the diseqc motor don't use them myself so can't test

ok...finally got around to testing this

so i've just taken the secondary LNB input out of my azbox, and put into my xtrend (which normally has the motors lnb connection in) and the signal strength is exactly the same!

no improvemnt at all with the input that is a straight connection through to the xtrend from lnb (using decent PF100 coax - about 20m)

just wanted to clear that up!

i agree that it makes sense that the signal should\could\would be lower, as there are 2 connections (breaks in coax) involved, lnb -> motor, motor>-? stb) but it DOESNT make a difference.

(in my setup anyway)

cheeers all!


ps im just setting up my DR.HD D15 now !!!!

[ManikM]

god damn it, no uk plug converter included!!!!

[clipper]

god damn it, no uk plug converter included!!!!
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just cut it off and fit a uk 3 pin
i do that with all boxes even if they
put a converter plug in the box i think it's safer

[ManikM]

thanks nicked one off my azbox premium

[clipper]

thanks nicked one off my azbox premium
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you hav'nt told anyone about the fiver they put in with the handbook have you,lol

[ManikM]

nope!
;)

[ManikM]

well my conclusion is what a waste of 99 quid! LOL!

certain feeds it couldnt show, but my xtrend could, if i use the 1mhz step it takes ages compared to azbox

clumsy firmware, theres no 3mhz step.

blindscan generally slow - thought it would be fast, tuner is sensitvie tho, but from comparing to my xtrend - NOT very far off it at all.

need to sell it now.

[digicon]

£60 here mate LOL

[skomedal]

At least you tried!

Well done:respect-048:

Regards

[ManikM]

£60 here mate LOL

ware from?

[moonbase]

need to sell it now.

How much you want for it, I fancy messing around with one of these.

[blackdevil]

well my conclusion is what a waste of 99 quid! LOL!

certain feeds it couldnt show, but my xtrend could, if i use the 1mhz step it takes ages compared to azbox

clumsy firmware, theres no 3mhz step.

blindscan generally slow - thought it would be fast, tuner is sensitvie tho, but from comparing to my xtrend - NOT very far off it at all.

need to sell it now.


I cannot talk about sensitive tuners as it is a sensitive case and anybody can have his own conclusions but for blind scan i can tell that Spiderbox HD6000 has a very fast Blind Scan that can find most transponders in under 5 min 10.7GHz to 12.75GHz although no selection available.
Also if you record a 4:2:2 feed ,you can after watch it in your PC .

[ManikM]

cheers mate, helpful.

[satwyn]

cheers mate, helpful.looks like another receiver is on the cards then looking for a az me for 4.2.2 but can't seem to find 1

[ManikM]

Yer they are hard to find
The blind scan on them now is decent

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