latest 6000 model patch update issues ?

[finestrat]

I've just bought a hD6000 from the sponsors. I've downloaded a new patch from vasiks called mscam.ssu which seems to be a replacement for iks.

I'm trying to backup my channel data but when I go into menu/software update/sw backup it doesn't give me an option for backing up channel data, just Backup All, Application 1, User database and key Data. Am I looking in the wrong place.

I've applied the patch but then realised I haven't done a factory reset and can't do that without backing up channels. Any help appreciated

[echelon]

user database is the one for backing up a channel list , assuming you installed one or have done a scan

if you have applied the patch , its too late to backup the actual supplied firmware

you should be able to do a factory reset regardless of any backing up (or not backing up)

[finestrat]

Thanks Echelon

Ok managed to save channels, did factory reset reloaded channels, software version doesn't seem to have changed but maybe that's right?
Apparently to activate the patch I need to use 11 11 11 11 11 but I can't find where to do this. I've tried entering 1111 in network settings but nothing seems to happen.

[echelon]

I would think its the date that changes, if anything

are you following the tutorial here ?

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?161756-Setup-Guide-for-Spiderbox-6000HD

follow that , but put in the 11 11 11 11 11 etc code you were given, not the old code (thats 5 pairs not 4)

I believe you have a similar thread going on the other forum, the last link there tells you where to put in the code above

if that field isnt there, then maybe you have not patched it, despite you saying you have done so ?

[finestrat]

Yes you're right, thought I'd ask them as that's where the patch came from but last reply was a bit brusque.
I think I've missed something and I'm wondering if I have to open the file in notepad or something and enter the code into it the patch. It says on the download instructions
by entering the code 11 11 11 11 11 into the MS Cam field in the patch. I'll have a look

[echelon]

I doubt that you have to edit any patch file using an editor

if the box has the new patch installed, it seems there will be an mscam field for you to put the code into, ten 1`s , possibly where the IKS field used to be ?

you are probably one of the first to try this so you cannot expect help from people who have already done it , you are the pathfinder who needs to suss it out and then write up a new tutorial for others to follow

my opinion is that if you patched it successfully the date would have changed and an mscam field would be available for that code

its certainly NOT the same as the old 9000 or the previous 6000 either

but as nobody else has this box yet and we cannot add the patch to our older 6000 boxes, you are expecting help that isnt here yet , like a pioneer striking out into the unknown ( if you buy me a new box I will spend all day working it out and adding a new tutorial for you , as would the other guy , lol ;) )

the fact remains that all of the available info is on that forum, even if its not a full explanation, its all there is

[finestrat]

The patch appeared to install and the receiver rebooted but the date didn't change. If I manage to sort it, I'll post the answer.

Just checked the file but its coded in something that notepad doesn't seem to like. Downloaded notepad ++ hoping there may be auto formatting but no joy so probably barking up the wrong tree.

[finestrat]

Still no joy with this, in my menu, I have no "others" where I can enter 1111 for extended menu in network and I can't see anything similar.
If anybody has managed to figure this out, can you tell me how you did it, can't find anything online either.

[johnhenry]

Reference the 1111 this you do on the remote which then opens the extended menu same as 9000 and I think the old 6000.

This is old guide (To get extended Menu options goto Menu / Others and press 1111 on on your remote, this will open the 3 extra options at the bottom of the list.)

[finestrat]

Hi Echelon

I might have figured this out, I think the box is running FTA software, the version is 01.20 dated 15th April 2015. If so, wouldn't I need to upgrade the software first before I could apply the new patch? I don't want to brick the box by putting the wrong software on it but could you let me know what you think?

[echelon]

that was my point about dates, I didnt think you had patched it despite you saying that you used the mscam patch which we are all assuming is a full patch for this new box , you said yourself that nothing had changed after adding the mscam patch

perhaps you have to patch it with the 6000 april 2015 patch first, factory reset it , then try this mscam.ssu patch to activate the mscam, then use 11 etc to activate the mscam login ?

the latest info is on that site where you went for the patch, it tells people to use the old patch if wanting to retain IKS , so maybe its patch and patch again ?

the reason you cannot find info on the net is that this is all brand new and brought about by the latest stock which dont have IKS logins , so the procedures are what you have read, although there isnt an idiots guide as yet

[finestrat]

I think you're probably right, do you reckon I should give it a try or can I knacker the box? The other thing is I wan't to keep the iptv which looks excellent, the april 2015 patch will still keep this won't it?

Sorry for all the questions, just don't want to make any expensive mistakes.

[echelon]

cant give you the definitive answer you seek as this is all brand new and nobody really knows other than the developers

cant tell you what is in the new patches, other than mscam (obviously)

the info on the other forum says that the box can be patched the old way and all but IKS will work

I doubt they will have removed iptv , they seem to be substituting the newer mscam for the older iks

there are repair files for the 6000 using a null modem cable, so I doubt you will brick the box

I would think that iptv is retained in the patches , as would be r*dtube etc too

[^^COMPASS^^]

I have loaded the mscam patch onto one of my Spiders

I performed a factory Reset before and after applying the Patch all went well

attached some pics

As you can see
HW v 1.0 & SW v 1.20

[echelon]

so it appears that the mscam patch repatches the section from IKS to MSCAM

in which case it may well be that you patch the 6000 with the old patch first, factory reset it, then apply the mscam upgrade to it and factory reset it again

it also appears that nothing else is affected

thanks go to compass for trying it and posting pics

[finestrat]

Thanks for all the help. Nearly there now but stupidly entered too many 1's into IKS code and don't know how to remove them any ideas? The back key doesn't seem to delete them

[^^COMPASS^^]

Thanks for all the help. Nearly there now but stupidly entered too many 1's into IKS code and don't know how to remove them any ideas? The back key doesn't seem to delete them

Surely your referring to mscam & you cannot add too many: 11 11 11 11 11

[finestrat]

Well I've ended up using my old IKS code which is valid until November but at least I've now got my channels clearing!! The MsCam option never appeared

[^^COMPASS^^]

Well I've ended up using my old IKS code which is valid until November but at least I've now got my channels clearing!! The MsCam option never appeared

You carnt have applied the mscam Patch then, which is available on the other forum

[finestrat]

Hi Compass

I did insert the patch. I saw the "not inserted" option what was I supposed to do there to get to the network screen? I think I just clicked okay and nothing happened. If you can let me know, I'll have another go.

[Anrakh]

"Not inserted" means there is no card in the card reader. Nothing else. You will have to familiarise yourself with the receiver properly before you will be able to accomplish anything,

[finestrat]

Cracked it at last!!!! The original file I downloaded must have been corrupted or something, downloaded again and bingo everything working. I'd never have thought that it could have been the file. That's 5 hours I'll never see again

[echelon]

ok , so now that you have managed it, does a new owner just install the mscam.ssu ?

or does a new owner patch it using the old april 2015 patch first, THEN factory reset and patch it with mscam.ssu ?

as for "not inserted" , as anrakh rightly says, that is to do with having no card in the card reader , nothing to do with patching a box or getting mscam working (you would get that message on the older 6000 and the 7000 and 9000 and 9900 too)

[finestrat]

Hi Echelon

Well provided the downloaded file is okay I think all they need to do is to factory reset install patch and that should be it. One thing I've noticed with the new software is that I can't get access to the iptv lists. When I first got the box, if I went into software update there was an option to update the iptv and I could choose from list1,2,3 or 4 but that seems to have disappeared. If I click on iptv button now or open it from the menu I just get one list no list options. Originally it was an online update. Maybe there is some other way of doing it?

Thanks for all your help with this, thought I was going insane at one point, couldn't believe the file was corrupted, the original was over 8mb but when I downloaded it again it was about 5mb .

Thanks to Compass as well

[jbvid]

MSCAM service.

Users who have bought new stock from approved suppliers will be able to actrivate a free 12-month subscription by entering the code 11 11 11 11 11 into the MS Cam field in the patch.
Users who wish to continue with IKS should not use this patch.
IKS codes will NOT work with this patch.
jb

[echelon]

Hi Echelon

One thing I've noticed with the new software is that I can't get access to the iptv lists.

When I first got the box, if I went into software update there was an option to update the iptv and I could choose from list1,2,3 or 4 but that seems to have disappeared.

If I click on iptv button now or open it from the menu I just get one list no list options.
Originally it was an online update. Maybe there is some other way of doing it?


try software update

then Upgrade by Network

the IPTV server at the bottom allows you to change the list from 1 through to 4

is this present or not ?

if it is , try clearing the list first, reboot, then select list 2 or 3 or 4 and try downloading those

[rioseco]

Hi guy's, I have just received two new S/P 6000 box's from Lee for my son and myself, am I right in thinking we are going to get the new patch on this forum!!!!!!.
rioseco

[finestrat]

Hi Echelon
No, that's just it, no upgrade by network in software update, seems to have disappeared, just says no usb.

[Anrakh]

The Update by Network option is not implemented on the MSCAM patch.

[echelon]

Hi guy's, I have just received two new S/P 6000 box's from Lee for my son and myself,

am I right in thinking we are going to get the new patch on this forum!!!!!!.

rioseco

yes , spiderlover has just put it here

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?171918-HD6000-patch-for-MSCAM-for-new-HD6000-receivers-without-IKS

[rioseco]

Thank you so much echelon for the swift reply so helpful-----rioseco

[nsat 65]

Hello
I have a Spiderbox 6000 for the last 2 years with the IKS patch.
If i install the Mscam patch will i get the free 12 month subscription and IPTV or not?
Thanks

[echelon]

Hello
I have a Spiderbox 6000 for the last 2 years with the IKS patch.
If i install the Mscam patch will i get the free 12 month subscription and IPTV or not?
Thanks

no , definitely not, its for brand new boxes only

[cutain]

does a new sb6000 from gw with mscam patch clear the same amount of channels as older box with iks (mine runs out November) thank you

[Aldo]

does a new sb6000 from gw with mscam patch clear the same amount of channels as older box with iks (mine runs out November) thank you

Your answer can be found in post#25 in this thread.

[huston]

I have been waiting for an update on new Spiderbox 6000 this information is a good step forward .
As I understand it this is still referring to new stock of 'existing ' 6000 boxes ,is there an update anywhere on a new version of Spiderbox which seemed to be in the pipeline earlier this year , what might it offer.
Is there a big difference between IKS and MS cam patches , I looked at post #25 and cannot see the answer.

[TonyO]

Just out of curiosity, If you buy a new spider 6000 and use the MS patch for a year, can you afterwards when it runs out patch the IK$ patch and use IPTV as with older boxes, I realise no one has probably tried this yet, but I'm just interested if this is possible.

[Anrakh]

When the mscam runs out after a year, you can renew mscam for another year or flash IKS and get IKS for a year. Your choice.

[satwyn]

I have been waiting for an update on new Spiderbox 6000 this information is a good step forward .
As I understand it this is still referring to new stock of 'existing ' 6000 boxes ,is there an update anywhere on a new version of Spiderbox which seemed to be in the pipeline earlier this year , what might it offer.
Is there a big difference between IKS and MS cam patches , I looked at post #25 and cannot see the answer.did you find out the difference between iks and mscam in the channels they clear?

[blackdevil]

did you find out the difference between iks and mscam in the channels they clear?

There are almost the same channels.
We are trying to improve the freezing issue of some channel"s in this new service.

[ginjaninja]

Blackdevil can you confirm that the IPTV option has disappeared within the new msCAM patch.

thanks
the ninja

[Aldo]

Blackdevil can you confirm that the IPTV option has disappeared within the new msCAM patch.

thanks
the ninja

You do not need blackdevil to confirm anything, please read the link provided in your other thread.

[ginjaninja]

The link you provided brings me back here and as echelon states as it is new firmware support is limited and as Blackdevil I'd heavily involved with the IPTV function of this box I thought us was reasonable to ask for a yes or no response.

Thanks
the ninja

[Aldo]

The link you provided brings me back here and as echelon states as it is new firmware support is limited and as Blackdevil I'd heavily involved with the IPTV function of this box I thought us was reasonable to ask for a yes or no response.

Thanks
the ninja

Try reading this one then:

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?172007-new-6000hd-question

and most of the questions you have asked have already been asked and answered.