ESPN 901 & 902 at 15W

[holmroad]

Has anyone else noticed reception of ESPN Caribbean 901 & 902 has worsened considerably this past few months?
I have 1.1M dish in North Lincs + TM5402HD M3 using patch 138P 15/9.:nopity:

[Detlef]

Seems OK here on a 1.2m.

Are you sure your dish hasn't been knocked out of alignment ?

[holmroad]

Cheers mate, will check & report back, but many other 'borderline' signals elsewhere not too bad!
Thanks again!

[oscar]

Ok here on West Wales coast --- I have found that the lnb needs to be skewed slightly to the left when looking straight at the dish instead of to the right for all other birds on the arc ??
1.3 prime focus dish at ground level.
Regards

[Detlef]

I looked up the footprint on Lyn g sat and it should come in on a 60cm dish over N. Europe (including England).

The footprint doesn't show a drop off until you get to Scotland and Western/Northern Ireland.

The Met data shows you have had some fairly dense clouds passing overhead at times and if the higher levels contain ice crystals that will attenuate the signal.

[holmroad]

Fair comment mate, but I have ALWAYS found the 2 ESPN 901/2 frequency to be much weaker than most other TP's on 15W!
There have even been other threads on this very subject, I believe!
Didn't manage to get out to check dish today after all, has also been very windy in North Lincs.
Will have another go tomorrow!

[simon 2003]

like these channels must update k3y$ ,only problem is the letterbox veiw

[Edgar]

Currently the reception is at an usual level. But I have noticed that the strongness of the signal is varying a lot when monitoring these channels over a period of e.g. two months.

[chopper1]

i have lost the frequency on these, can anyone remind me what they are to try it?
thanks

[007.4]

12511V 7552 3/4 qpsk

I'm certainly finding it a lot weaker than it used to be.

On a similar topic is The Fight Network still on this sat? I've now got no signal on 11611H 4054 3/4 S2 8psk and I've already tweaked my 1.8m dish and LNB.

[chopper1]

11611 H DVB-S2/8PSK 4055 3/4 Fight Network HD

[007.4]

Can someone please confirm TFN is still on that transponder. I've got zero signal.

[Detlef]

like these channels must update k3y$ ,only problem is the letterbox veiw

That annoyed me for ages but then I discovered that it was because my DM800 was set to PAL. OpenPLI has a setting automatic which detects the weird USA type pixel ratio of ESPN and shows it OK.

My Sony TV also has a picture size option which allows ESPN to fill the screen correctly but I have to set that whenever I switch to or from a European signal.

[Detlef]

Just out of interest, all FTA (and ESPNs ;-) ) on 15W are showing very similar signal strengths except Zagros which is a bit stronger.

[007.4]

but do you get a signal on the TFN channel?

11611H DVB-S2/8PSK 4055 3/4 Fight Network HD

If so is it weaker or stronger than the others?

[Detlef]

but do you get a signal on the TFN channel?

11611H DVB-S2/8PSK 4055 3/4 Fight Network HD

If so is it weaker or stronger than the others?

Just scanned it in and it is fractionally weaker than ESPN 901.

I haven't bothered with PowerVU yet so don't know if it is active.

[007.4]

Thanks that accounts for it. ESPNs are marginal for me ATM at 45%. I need about 40% for a lock and 11611H will be more difficult as it is DVB-S2 :(

I've never had a problem with this channel before. I've obviously upset something swopping my C-Band LNB back to the Ku band one a few days ago even though I've peaked it again.

[Barney]

Signals all above 87% for me on ESPN And 91% on Fight Network

ESPN 901 Caribbean @ @ 15°West 12511 V 7552 QPSK
http://s14.postimg.org/akb5oe2ep/Espn_901_Caribbean_3450_12511_V_7 552_20151112_23.jpg

ESPN 902 Syndication @ 15°West 12511 V 7552 QPSK
http://s14.postimg.org/m857ixrjl/Espn_902_Syndication_3450_12511_V _7552_20151112.jpg


Fight NETWORK [ PowerVU ] @ 15°West 11611 H 4055
http://s4.postimg.org/v1qir92lp/Fight_Network_HD_3450_11611_H_405 5_20151112_2356.jpg

[holmroad]

Cheers barney - and all you others - but I'm still finding NO signal on ESPN channels, 75% on Fight Network yet not opening even though I wasn't aware of any key changes on PV? - most other channels e.g. Gunaz, opening fine with 79-85% plus - so its STILL really only ESPN x 2 failing for ME guys! However they are ALL fluctuating a bit, so still MAY be dish not quite plumb on.
Been mega windy today, so will see what weathers like tomorrow and maybe check my 1.1M dish!

[007.4]

Well the signal strength on this sat is getting stranger and stranger.

Yesterday, I had about 45% on my DUO2 on ESPN and zero on TFN.
Today, in much worse weather I've now got 75% on ESPN and 15% on TFN - not enough to lock.

I've tweaked the dish/LNB and all checked all connections.

Next I connected my old DUO to exactly the same LNB feed and am getting 75% on ESPN (same) but a huge 65% on TFN.

I guess this indicates a problem with the tuner on my DUO2 on this specific frequency as I've not got an issue on any other sats?
Can someone please confirm or suggest another possible cause?

EDIT
I've just swopped the LNB feed to the second tuner on my DUO2 and there is still a very weak signal on this transponder. so either both tuners are faulty or it is the image. I'll try a different image.

[harddriver]

Hi

I have also trouble with this Transponter 11611 H 3/4 DVB S2 on my DM7080
Signal switched from around 60% / dB 9.60 in seconds to zero
and back to 60% and so on so i guess your Tuners are not the Problem
maybe the Beam ( Europe+South Africa ) is the problem

[Barney]

Also keys changed this Evening on ESPN Feeds @ 15W
Signal still 87% for me little bit of signal bouncing but not enuff to cause any issue
cheers !
-
Barney

[Detlef]

I've had a period of losing certain transponders in the past - most frustrating - but it turned out to be some work on a local transmitting tower. I suspect they'd used a temporary aerial that wasn't directional enough.

Anyway, the message is that lost channels can be caused by interference as opposed to a weak signal.


Those still getting problems should also try re-scanning the offending transponder(s) as minor changes to IDs can also have a big effect.

[3tv]

fight network audio channels are flagged as private data, may that's messing up your scanning in. Signal is strong here in the north east UK. ESPN is even stronger. Havent watched espn for ages. Have they always used separate keys for each channel? its been ages since I tuned in. PQ is dire to the point of unwatchable on anything other than a tablet or smaller.

[007.4]

TFN scans in just fine. It is the signal strength that is the problem on my DUO2 (not the old DUO on the same LNB feed!). As harddriver has said, it fluctuates every second from 66% to zero and is barely good enough to give a lock.

AFAIAA both the ESPNs have always used separate keys. Video bit rate is currently around 4400 kbps (very decent quality)/

[Detlef]

Yes, they have used different keys for 901 and 902

That causes problems for some emu's because the ECMs are the same so, for example, whichever key is first in the softcam file will get used.

oscam ymod seems the only reliable emu for both channels - or it is for me - but the format of oscam.keys is different.

[007.4]

The ESPN's use different ECM PIDs so if you enter these in the constant.cw file this eliminates the conflict.


#CAID SID PMT ECM
2600:000000:0385:0020:1FFF::xxxxx ................... ;Espn 901 Caribbean (15.0W)
2600:000000:0386:0020:1FFD::xxxxx .................. ;Espn 902 Syndication (15.0W)


Having said that 902 is not working for me ATM using yesterday's new key.

[3tv]

902 was showing blank video when I checked earlier so will appear to be not clearing even though it is


The ESPN's use different ECM PIDs so if you enter these in the constant.cw file this eliminates the conflict.


#CAID SID PMT ECM
2600:000000:0385:0020:1FFF::xxxxx ................... ;Espn 901 Caribbean (15.0W)
2600:000000:0386:0020:1FFD::xxxxx .................. ;Espn 902 Syndication (15.0W)


Having said that 902 is not working for me ATM using yesterday's new key.

[Detlef]

Same here on 902 ATM. Oscam believes the key is correct but just a blank screen.

[simon 2003]

Its clearing for me but i have bluescreen in letterbox

[chopper1]

not picking up anything on either channels

[Detlef]

Its clearing for me but i have bluescreen in letterbox

Yup. 902 changed from black to blue around tea time. Weird eh!

[Detlef]

not picking up anything on either channels

Did you put in the new keys? See Barney's post.

[dOOds]

Put in softcam.key as..or oscam.key

F 03851FFF 00 *************** ;ESPN Caribbean 901 (15W)
F 03851FFF 01 *************** ;ESPN Caribbean 901 (15W)
F 03861FFD 00 *************** ;ESPN Syndication 902 (15W)
F 03861FFD 01 *************** ;ESPN Syndication 902 (15W)

SIMPLES!!

Giggity Goo

[holmroad]

At last, I've solved the mystery of the 'missing' ESPN 901 & 2 on my TM5402HD M3; well I had the frequency as 12515V s/r 7552 (as per one of our colleague mdt's Biss lists) - and of course it should be 12511V 7552 - and so using12511V it' alls coming in loud & clear at 90-96% no probs, so thanks for all your assistance in this thread, most appreciated and at least it gave us plenty of useful discussion around 15W either way! lol!
Thanks again.:cheers2:

[chopper1]

no Detlef i ment no signal on that transponder, had the LNB replaced by the Satellite engineer he said dish was ok makes no real difference my cable must need changed as signal fluctuates from 70% to zero %

[007.4]

my cable must need changed as signal fluctuates from 70% to zero %

Why does that make you think it is the cable?
A few of us have the same problem, huge signal fluctuation, but for me it is only that one transponder and on one of my boxes. If it was the cable I would expect it to affect more transponders on all satellites and on both my boxes.

I now think there is an issue with the transmission which affects just some susceptible tuners/boxes.

[chopper1]

[QUOTE=007.4;941378]Why does that make you think it is the cable?
as it happens on most of my satellites

[Detlef]

ESPN 902 Syndication has reappeared with a moving picture.