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huddleston
18-07-2016, 11:16 PM
can anyone confirm that the 3pm slot that sky have taken from setanta will not be available in the uk . a vm worker as told a friend of mine that he believes that the channel will only air in HD .thanks
Barney
19-07-2016, 01:31 AM
Very unlikely only air in HD there has to be SD version same with all Sky channels
as for availability in UK nope unless via C/S ...the Laws in UK forbid EPL 3pm football to be shown Live on UK TV and still stands unless it has changed in past few weeks without any public announcements ?? ..this Rule/Law does not exist in ROI which is the likely loophole that is going to be exploited soon ,
Setanta were bought by Eir [ Eircom telephone provider ] and will likely show the usual handfull of 3pm games as per last season .
holmroad
19-07-2016, 09:39 AM
Cheers Barney - I've always been a little confused with Setanta, as I'd thought they'd gone bust years ago, but realise that they did continue in ROI of course!
mancred
19-07-2016, 10:12 AM
Setanta/Eir have lost the 3pm rights for the next 3 seasons to Sky Sports Ireland.
Nobody knows as of yet if a new channel will be set up specifically for Ireland but there is channels already aimed at Ireland for advertising reasons - so maybe one of them will get the 3pm but there is 0 chance a UK card will open this.
That HD only 3pm could be true but only rumours as of yet.
HD only as we all know means no CS
huddleston
19-07-2016, 07:48 PM
Setanta/Eir have lost the 3pm rights for the next 3 seasons to Sky Sports Ireland.
Nobody knows as of yet if a new channel will be set up specifically for Ireland but there is channels already aimed at Ireland for advertising reasons - so maybe one of them will get the 3pm but there is 0 chance a UK card will open this.
That HD only 3pm could be true but only rumours as of yet.
HD only as we all know means no CS
thats what i thought alot easier to restrict epl 3pm in ireland to hd only then stops uk viewing which of course is why sky have purchased the rights .
holmroad
19-07-2016, 11:53 PM
What a flipping pain eh, all suggesting that if Sky cant show 3pm footie in UK, then in their view why should WE - poor viewers watch it either???
How petty can they be?
Well now we know!!
maurice
20-07-2016, 07:46 AM
Another way of making the "Sky Punters" pay for the cost of the rights, get HD!!!!:001_07:
mancred
28-07-2016, 11:10 PM
3pms to be shown in Ireland on Sky Sports 5
Sky Sports to air Premier League Saturday 3pm kick-offs for the first time
http://the42.ie/2901089
TonyO
28-07-2016, 11:48 PM
Setanta only went bust in England, they still operate in Ireland.
At the end of last season when Sty bought the rights to share the EPL coverage in Ireland, I suspected it was a backdoor opening to show EPL in the UK, the HD only seems feasible as they have now upgraded their HD encryption.
Better on foreign.
holmroad
29-07-2016, 12:37 PM
And as usual its their main subscribers (Sky I mean) who continue to suffer, being in the UK despite paying Sky's exorbitant fees - and for what?
PS: See Sky not showing US Open Tennis this year, due to ongoing rising costs - mainly of course brought on by themselves and their unethical activities over the years!! lol!!
dostoy
29-07-2016, 12:39 PM
Is there going to be an SD as well as an HD version of this ?
Basically, Is Sky Sports 5 Ireland SD going to show the 3pm kick offs ?
Thanks
mancred
29-07-2016, 01:22 PM
Is there going to be an SD as well as an HD version of this ?
Basically, Is Sky Sports 5 Ireland SD going to show the 3pm kick offs ?
Thanks
Nothing concrete on that but if I was to put money on it, I'd say so yes.
mancred
29-07-2016, 01:24 PM
And as usual its their main subscribers (Sky I mean) who continue to suffer, being in the UK despite paying Sky's exorbitant fees - and for what?!
This has nothing to do with Sky, there are laws in place in the UK to not allow games between 3 & 5.15 be shown Live.
As we are nothing to do with the UK we get a 3pm.
Barney
29-07-2016, 03:21 PM
im not even sure that law stands anymore since England is no longer part of EU after Brexit ??
maurice
29-07-2016, 03:41 PM
We have not left YET!!!!!!!!!
mancred
29-07-2016, 04:01 PM
im not even sure that law stands anymore since England is no longer part of EU after Brexit ??
It's a British Ruling - nothing to do with EU
It's a British Ruling - nothing to do with EU
I believe it is a Sly Ruling, when they got the Rights to the Premier League, I think they stipulated that there would be No 3pm Kick Offs on Saturdays, and it was the Euopeans who started showing the 3pm kick offs, and of course Ruppie tried and sucessfully stopped some of them, including the Clubs and Pubs in the UK.
mancred
29-07-2016, 06:10 PM
I believe it is a Sly Ruling, when they got the Rights to the Premier League, I think they stipulated that there would be No 3pm Kick Offs on Saturdays, and it was the Euopeans who started showing the 3pm kick offs, and of course Ruppie tried and sucessfully stopped some of them, including the Clubs and Pubs in the UK.
So why are there no Saturday 3pm matches on TV?
It all started in the 1960s. Convinced by Burnley Chairman Bob Lord, Football League Chairmen joined forces to halt the airing of matches at 3pm on a Saturday. But why? Lord felt that big games being televised at that time would hurt attendances for smaller clubs, like his Burnley team.
Reasoning that people would rather watch a big game than support their local team, these Chairmen feared the potential loss of match-day revenue that could occur.
And so, based on that premise, with no real proof other than a hunch it came to pass that no match on a Saturday between 2:45 and 5:15 could be aired on TV within the UK. This has remained in place ever since, with the exception of the FA Cup final which has always been shown on a Saturday at 3pm until only recently when it was switched to 5pm in a controversial move by the FA.
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stevethejack
29-07-2016, 07:28 PM
Frequency is
28.2°E 12207 V 27500 5/6
catseye
29-07-2016, 07:51 PM
The argument used is if 3pm games are shown 'live' in the UK it will affect ground attendancies
In Germany I believe all games are shown on TV & yet games have very high attendencies
Could the cost of attending the games have some bearing on this?
For a Prem game including travel & beer your probably looking at £100 for a day out
I think the well known UK broadcaster has shot itself in the foot in terms of bidding so much for the rights
The advances in Kodi technology will most probably seriously dent their business plans
stevethejack
29-07-2016, 07:57 PM
German games - you buy your ticket and transport is included. Have a mate living near Dortmund and seen a couple of Dortmund games, and a Wuppertal game. The Wuppertal game was 8 euro and included my train ticket from the airport. Much better deal than here.
huddleston
29-07-2016, 10:15 PM
sky subscription offer in ireland join sky inc sports & get HD FREE ? one way around it not needing sd
Satcat
11-08-2016, 06:33 PM
Is there going to be an SD as well as an HD version of this ?
Basically, Is Sky Sports 5 Ireland SD going to show the 3pm kick offs ?
Thanks
According to LJs YES! but I guess we will have to wait see to be sure.
^^COMPASS^^
11-08-2016, 08:49 PM
Is there going to be an SD as well as an HD version of this ?
Basically, Is Sky Sports 5 Ireland SD going to show the 3pm kick offs ?
Thanks
According to LJs YES! but I guess we will have to wait see to be sure.
Showing on Sky Sports 5 ROI SD TV Guide
steviejb
11-08-2016, 09:38 PM
I have sly uk and used the "add channels" option and sly sports5 clears in SD but not HD, yet on my brothers box neither clears even though we both have sports but only I have the HD option.
Barney
11-08-2016, 09:51 PM
It should not Clear ..Its only available to Eire Subbers as far as im aware : )
The UK Version will likely work okay however ?
steviejb
12-08-2016, 09:39 AM
My mistake, the HD clears on a sly box and the SD clears on spider using CS, and not the other way around - I will know finally on Saturday at 3pm when the channel splits.
holmroad
12-08-2016, 10:34 AM
What is Sports 5 ROI tp frequency & S/R please?
squiddo
12-08-2016, 11:01 AM
12207 v 27500 5/6
dOOds
12-08-2016, 11:01 AM
12207 v
dvb-s/mpeg-2 27500 5/6
simon 2003
12-08-2016, 06:12 PM
nice one
^^COMPASS^^
12-08-2016, 06:36 PM
What is Sports 5 ROI tp frequency & S/R please?
Frequency is in one of my screenshots in post 24
But nice to see squiddo & dOOds have also posted it as well
saintomer1866
12-08-2016, 06:48 PM
As did stevethejack in post 19 of this thread, just 9 posts above holmroads question
https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?174618-3pm-sky-sports-ireland&p=953304&viewfull=1#post953304
it's even on the same page, don't know about you but I call that lazy
holmroad
12-08-2016, 08:55 PM
As did stevethejack in post 19 of this thread, just 9 posts above holmroads question
https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?174618-3pm-sky-sports-ireland&p=953304&viewfull=1#post953304
it's even on the same page, don't know about you but I call that lazy
Fair comment mate, hadn't even THOUGHT about going back THAT far, OR spotting it on Compass's thumbnails - smacky hands again eh? lol!!
simon 2003
13-08-2016, 03:11 PM
weird having footy on sly at this time
TonyO
13-08-2016, 03:57 PM
Yeah it is strange, Irish sty cards could become quite popular with UK viewers.
Barney
14-08-2016, 01:34 AM
Yes its a Legal Loophole that Mr.Murdock and co. have exposed ,
it generates more interest in Sky and probably seen as a postive for them after thier humilation of Setanta and BT Last season
they really needed an injection of something positive and this season they have the cash to buy almost all EPL Games especially 3pm games
leaving BT And now EIR Sport with little scraps here and there and crumbs of the Big $$ Pie ...
still when its not possible to view these games in HD due to H/W pairing crap then i'll find other options to watch in HD and/or 4K
without having to pay for the privilege : )
cheers !
dog-man
14-08-2016, 07:08 PM
The BT coverage of the Everton game was FTA in 4k, but sadly, I don't have a 4K television.
I tried to watch on my computer and the picture was fantastic but no sound so I need to sort out a codec issue.
Dave5118
14-08-2016, 08:35 PM
The BT coverage of the Everton game was FTA in 4k, but sadly, I don't have a 4K television.
I tried to watch on my computer and the picture was fantastic but no sound so I need to sort out a codec issue.
Everton v Spurs? That was a 3pm game, are you sure it wasn't the Man City v Sunderland game?
dog-man
14-08-2016, 08:42 PM
Everton v Spurs? That was a 3pm game, are you sure it wasn't the Man City v Sunderland game?
Yes it was. I was getting confused. :)
Must be going senile. :(
I watched the Everton game on sly sports 5 Ireland.
holmroad
14-08-2016, 10:42 PM
So please confirm guys, IS Sky Sports 5 ROI in SD really showing + opening live Saturday 3pm EPL soccer - and if so using exactly which settings, i.e. PIDS, MPEG, etc, etc?
Barney
14-08-2016, 11:32 PM
YES
Sky Sport 5 Ire
12205 V 27500 MPEG 2
showed Everton vs Spurs 3pm match yesterday
TonyO
14-08-2016, 11:43 PM
Spurs carried their last season end of form into the new season, bore draw ! ok with spider .,
Barney
15-08-2016, 02:53 AM
Sunderland will be in trouble this season ..Why did they choose Moyes ?? The most unsuccessful manager of all time ..lol's
Scousers are doing ok but still pretty much the same as last season very dodgy defense again doubt they'll be a lot different this season than last .
Spurs had probably the worst fixture in the opening day of all and they have not lost yet so its not really a concern
Burnley vs Liverpool is Next Saturday's Sly Sport 5 Eire offering at 3pm from Mr.Murdock not so appealing but hopefully in future they might start doing more than just one 3pm game maybbe use Sport 3/4/5 irish versions and do the usual running commentary on Sport 1 for UK/Ire Subbers ?
thats maybbe where BT / Setanta had their chances but did'nt exploit it ..maybbe Mr.Murdock might ?
cheers !
satpaul
15-08-2016, 02:42 PM
If you have the UK Autobouquets for Enigma 2 receivers set to Ireland and then you have Sky Sports 5 IE
Architect
31-08-2016, 11:55 AM
is the HD variant still paired like the UK version ? I don't have access to the Irish channels at the moment
Barney
31-08-2016, 12:05 PM
Yes HD Channels remain H/W Paired UK And IRE aswell .
seamouse
15-12-2016, 01:00 PM
you can get eir sports 2 HD working via irish cards
Burnham
15-12-2016, 01:51 PM
I think that was the point of the earlier posts.
The EPL rights switched from EIR to Sky Ireland from summer 2016. In the 2015/2016 EPL season you could get a 3pm game in HD using EIR Sports, but when Sky Ireland took over the rights we lost the ability to get the selected 3pm game in HD as Sky Sport 5 HD is not available.
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