can you blindscan yet on any of the latest VU+ products?

[ManikM]

the only reason i stick to my Xtrend 9200 is that no other STB's seem to do hardware blindscan...maybe they do now? been off the scene for a bit.

thanks!

[Dark Cloud]

I got my Solo2 from Goldwafers when they first came out, and via Vix I always could Blindscan.

[ian]

I can Blindscan too on my Solo2 using Pli and I know for a fact that you can also do it using ATV as well.

Ian.

[ManikM]

is this also out on the bigger bro, DUO2? also, is it a "hardware" blindscan ?

thanks!

[Nikkas]

One can blindscan on the DUO2 as well. Not sure what you mean by 'hardware' blindscan though?

[simon 2003]

i had a solo 2 when they first came out thought it took a while for blindscan to be added certainly on BH ,in a later driver revision i thought?

[ManikM]

if duo2 can do do blindscan - id prefer that

thinking about getting the solo 4k now - worth it over the duo2?

[harddriver]

Hi

Of course it is
The CPU the Ram and so on almost anything in the 4K is better than in the Duo2

[ian]

Except its a pain in the arse getting anything to run on it yet.

I'd love one for the future,but no way I'd buy one yet as practically nothing is written with ARM in mind,although that is indeed slowly changing.

Ian.

[Nikkas]

Except its a pain in the arse getting anything to run on it yet.

I'd love one for the future,but no way I'd buy one yet as practically nothing is written with ARM in mind,although that is indeed slowly changing.

Ian.

That's the main reason I have held back but it is still no. 1 on my wish list. For now I think the Duo2 is more than enough for what is available.

[mrdude]

Except its a pain in the arse getting anything to run on it yet.

I'd love one for the future,but no way I'd buy one yet as practically nothing is written with ARM in mind,although that is indeed slowly changing.

Ian.

Exactly, hardware is only as good as the software that runs on it. Unless you have the source code and the knowledge to compile it or the skills to write your own software you are stuck with what's publicly available. These Arm based boxes are very capable boxes in the proper hands of someone that knows what they are doing, and probably once the current gen of mips boxes become more obsolete - Arm boxes will take the place of them. But the people that write software and plugins mostly have mips boxes and so do most of the user base of the enthusiast sat TV people - so don't expect too much until that changes.

[harddriver]

Except its a pain in the arse getting anything to run on it yet.

I'd love one for the future,but no way I'd buy one yet as practically nothing is written with ARM in mind,although that is indeed slowly changing.

Ian.
Hi

Sorrybut that´s complete nonsens
On the Vu 4K runs anything you want from MediaPortal to Kodi
from Oscam to Gbox from Merlin MusicPlayer to Enhanced Movie Center ( EMC )
an so on the List should be endless
The one and only think that bothers me is that the Vu 4K could not Play
Video Files in Ultra HD H264
Tell me what did not Work for you i guess Sonic1 from the BH Team
or another Person,maybe i,could Tell you a Solution
again on my VU 4K runs anything i want to run

[ian]

Im not talking about basic plugins, of course they will run.

Im talking about more complex usage that includes things written in C++ that's been compiled for mipsel

Anything that uses a .so .po or .mo extension for example just isnt going to run ( a good example would be theTVDB plugin,but there are many others)

There are many other things too that simply are not going to work until the things written in C++ are also compiled for ARM (we are also talking binary's here) I cant be arsed listing all that wont work,but trust me there's loads. ( it would be a far shorter list to name what will run than name what wont )

Ian.

[CokeAddict]

if duo2 can do do blindscan - id prefer that

thinking about getting the solo 4k now - worth it over the duo2?

Solo4K is more future proof than the Duo2, as obviously it supports 4K.

However at the moment (unless i've missed it), there is no blindscan on Solo4K

[ian]

And thats my point and the whole point of this thread.

The blindscan plugin is one of the plugins that WONT work on the 4k

Full circle me thinks.

Ian.

[harddriver]

Hi

TVDB Plugin for example Works
Sure it´s a mipsel File packed as an .ipk but if you extract it
and FTP the File to /usr/lib/enigma2/python/plugins/extensions
reboot the Box and here we go but anyway ......

[ian]

Its the TMDB plugin then I couldn't recall exactly which of the two it was that uses C++ files,but I knew it was one of them.

Anyway,thats not important as this is not a debate about the 4k and its long list of limitations. What is important is that the Blindscan plugin doesn't work properly (yet) on the 4k and because of this its been removed from most image feeds until its fixed,which is what the original poster was asking about.

Ian.

[mrdude]

Hi

TVDB Plugin for example Works
Sure it´s a mipsel File packed as an .ipk but if you extract it
and FTP the File to /usr/lib/enigma2/python/plugins/extensions
reboot the Box and here we go but anyway ......

Dude, ARM instructions are different from mipsel instructions, when a binary (like IAN said), is compiled to work on mispel - it will not work on ARM because the CPU can't understand the instruction set - if you have the source code you can compile it to work, we are not talking python files here, or linux based shell scripts, we are talking binaries - which IAN has pointed out - will not work, period!

[harddriver]

Hi

Try it for your self
If you have tryed it we will Talk again
Could not Upload Pictures to proof that it Works,Sorry
but look at the Pictures here
hxxps://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxqfsEpKC6gzNkY2eX JsLUNGWkE&usp=sharing
nothing more to say cause you think you are the experts

Edit
btw BlindScan did not Work with the FBC Tuner thats right but,and there is always a but,
if you use one of the available Plug and Play Tuners,for example the BCM7356,BlindScan Works also
on the VU 4K but i´m pretty sure that you Experts know that too.

[ian]

What are you waffling on about ?

Yes its a tuner issue as to why Blindscan wont work on the 4k and this is well known. But tell me,who on earth wants to spend top dollar on the VU+ Flagship box only then to find that to get a plugin such as Blindscan to work they then have to go out and spend more money to purchase a USB tuner ? Its just madness !

This is without all the other problems associated with all C++ stuff that's been compiled in mipsel,which simply will never ever run until its been compiled in ARM by the writers of the software. This is fact regardless of how much you argue about it,this fact will not change.

As stated,one day it will be a great box,but not today.

The fact is Blindscan doesnt work on the 4k (yet) and that's what the original poster asked about.

Ian.

[harddriver]

Hi

For example i also have a DM 7080 which is currently the DMM FlagShip and its cost´s a bit more than the VU
the Tuner´s there are unable to look the BBC Channels at 27° West so i have also spend another 80 Euros
for an extra Tuner.
anyway the TMBd Plugin i have on my VU4K is from June 2014 ( enigma2-plugin-extensions-tmdb_v1.1_mips32el.ipk )
so no one compilet that into a .arm File ;)
And yes he did but hi did also ask :

the solo 4k now - worth it over the duo2?
May he make his decision whatsoever that may look,nothing more to say

[CokeAddict]

What are you waffling on about ?

Yes its a tuner issue as to why Blindscan wont work on the 4k and this is well known. But tell me,who on earth wants to spend top dollar on the VU+ Flagship box only then to find that to get a plugin such as Blindscan to work they then have to go out and spend more money to purchase a USB tuner ? Its just madness !


You can fit a pluggable tuner (same as in uno, ultimo, solose and duo2)

[ian]

Still extra money though after paying for whats supposed to be the bee's knee's in set top boxes.

Undoubtedly this box will be the best out there and I'd deffo like one,but not till the software catches up and like Mr Dude has said,this probably wont happen completely until mipsel is considered obsolete. Although,things are far better now than they were 12 months ago.

All I'm saying is that if the original poster were to buy a 4k, he shouldnt expect it to work like an existing VU+ box. Not without lots of effort and work and internet searching on his part to get whats taken for granted as working instantly on the existing mipsel boxes,and there are many things,that he will never get to work. Admittedly though as I said things are moving on,and this wont always be the case.

But I repeat,the original question was will Blindscan work on the 4k and the simple answer is no,not unless he were to purchase further hardware.

His choice,but theres no way I'd buy the Flagship box only to then find I have to pay more to get basic things to work.

Ian.

[mw1908]

Have things progressed on since this discussion was last held? For example the Uno 4K is now out. Is the 4K now a more capable buy vs the tried and tested HD VU+ boxes??