I need help setting the TP to 11495 V 44100 on a S1600CHD SE

[Nick Brown]

Hi to all. Hope somebody can help. I've bought an Icecrypt S1600CHD SE to try to pick up the Intelsat 907 satellite in Southern France. This is my first time attempting to play with satellites or receivers so bear with me please. I tried to set the whole thing up back in the UK before I came down but couldn't find the satellite. I joined this forum which has been invaluable in getting the box set up with the right software and allowing me to actually access the BISS settings and thought that I'd be ready to go as soon as I found the satellite. I've set up an 80cm dish and have found the satellite with 74% quality - but this is on the 11607 V 11999 transponder. As soon as I try to set up the 11495 V 44100 transponder I lose the signal. I've followed the set up instructions on another website but it's telling me to go to Installation > Satellite Installation, press OK, Select the TP Index, then press the Yellow button (TP Edit), on the next screen press the Green button (Add), and enter the following parameters:

Intelsat 907 at 27.5° West
Transponder 74
11.495 Vertical
SR: 44100
FEC: 9/10
DVB-S2/MPEG2/MPEG4
Modulation: QPSK
Encryption: BISS
Sptbeam: Spot 2 (Europe)

The problem I'm having is that when I press the yellow button all I get are the following fields:

SAT Intelsat907 27.5
TP Index 1/4
Frequency 11495
Symbol Rate 44100
Polarity Vertical

I've tried for hours to find first set of fields but it's just not happening. Am I missing something or are the setup instructions I'm following for an older S1600CHD??.
Any advice would be more than welcome. The internet in my village is snail pace and the wife is costing us a fortune in Orange PAYG gigabytes trying to pick up Radio X. I desperately need to link to the BBC radio channels.

[buck401]

Connect the box to the Internet.
Menu then Internet then http upgrade and select software and channel list.
Exit menu to picture and the 907 channels should be there.
Good luck

[Nick Brown]

Connect the box to the Internet.
Menu then Internet then http upgrade and select software and channel list.
Exit menu to picture and the 907 channels should be there.
Good luck

Thanks for the quick response Buck401. I've already upgraded to get all of the channels and can see them scrambled on the 12514 V 8333 TP. The problem is that I can't register them or get a signal on the 11495V44100 TP.

[buck401]

There isn`t a 12514 v 8333 TP on the 907 satellite.
Check your dish is set on 27.5 West, Intel 907.
Look at the King of Sat site for all the transponders on the 907 satellite.

[Nick Brown]

Really confused now. When I bring up the Intelsat907 27.5 satellite on the setup menu it's preloaded with four TP's. I managed to change the TP index on the first one to 11495 V 44100 but it has no signal. The second one is 11665 V 13020 and has no signal. The third is the 11607 V 11999 TP with a 76% signal and the fourth is 12514 V 8333 with a 23% signal. Other than the first, none of these are listed on the 907 satellite on King of Sat. I'm pointing at the Intelsat 907 and finely tuned on the sat finder but I'm obviously doing something wrong and just don't get the menu mentioned above when I'm trying to set the TP.

[buck401]

Set the box up with one of the BBC channels.
Go into the menu, Installation, Satellite Intelsat907 27.5.
I assume you have a Universal LNB.
TP Index 11495 V 44100
DiSEqC Off
The Level and Quality lines should light up: yellow and green.
If they light up you are on the satellite.
Check the BBC channel to see if there is a signal (and hopefully working if BISS is set properly)
Let me know

[Nick Brown]

Tried the above and there's no signal on the 11495 V 44100. I tried scanning for programs on the 11607 V 11999 TP and it couldn't find any (presumably because there's no TP on the Intelsat 907). I can't understand why I'm getting such a good signal on this TP which is displaying under the 907 Satellite setup though.

[dave1234]

Tried the above and there's no signal on the 11495 V 44100. I tried scanning for programs on the 11607 V 11999 TP and it couldn't find any (presumably because there's no TP on the Intelsat 907). I can't understand why I'm getting such a good signal on this TP which is displaying under the 907 Satellite setup though.

I think you have you got the WRONG satellite as 11495 is the strongest transponder in this part Europe so if you can't get 11495 you won't get anything at all on intelsat 907

[buck401]

Try setting your box at 11495 V 44100 and moving the dish slightly to the East and West to see if a signal appears.

[Nick Brown]

Tried the above and there's no signal on the 11495 V 44100. I tried scanning for programs on the 11607 V 11999 TP and it couldn't find any (presumably because there's no TP on the Intelsat 907). I can't understand why I'm getting such a good signal on this TP which is displaying under the 907 Satellite setup though.

[villamarre]

Hi nick I have set up a few of these boxes for friends here in S Spain and can tell you they are very easy to do ,download the latest firmware for the box from this site,MAKE SURE you get the correct version as there is 1600 and 1600 sethe se is second edition and they are not compatible.Then go menu/system/upgrade by usb and I always do all SW and bootloader option,this actually sets up all the parameters in TP installation and the BISS codes as well,then you need to go to a sat finder website and enter your location and the sat you want to set up,use a compass to get a rough line for the dish and set the LNB to neutral position,change the azimuth of the dish 10 degrees either side of the reading you get from the website,if you do not get a signal on your meter or decoder then move the dish slightly to the left and thenswing through the azimuth then the right etc until you gat a signal,once you are there the LNB can be fine tuned to the correct position and this will greatly affect the signal strength and quality.A good rule of thumb here is if there is an existing sky set up on Astra 28.5 looking from back of sky dish the intelsat needs to be 90 degrees to the right and 10 degrees higher on azimuth,yours will be different so you need to get the dish pointing in the right direction or else you will not get this sat.If you set up the TP manually you have to do a TP a scan and change the pid search field to BBC,all others are left as they are.Hope this helps.

[Nick Brown]

Thanks Villamarre, I did all of the above other than the option I chose on the 1600 SE firmware from this site was SW and all channels rather than SW and bootloader. I'll go back and update with the bootloader but the main problem I'm having is finding the satellite. I've spent more than two hours up a ladder over the past couple of days with the sat finder plugged to the end of the LNB as well as the TV/receiver tuned into the 11495 V 44100 transponder on the Intelsat 907 with the beep on but I'm getting absoloutely nothing despite scouring about 30 degrees either side of the bearing. I'll have another go tomorrow but I'll probably have to resort to a professional to set the dish up for me assuming that he's going to have a better sat finder. I'll update on how I get on.

[Mickha]

What make/model satellite finder are you using?

[Nick Brown]

Hi Mickha, It's a simple Satconn one that I bought a few years back when I was travelling and trying to locate the Astra satellite.

[Nick Brown]

Just spent another 15 minutes scanning for the 907 with no joy. I'll try to find the Hispasat. It's blowing a hooley out there at the moment, good job this place is all ground floor.

[Nick Brown]

Use dishpointer.com its simple

I've been using it together with a compass and the satfinder and adjusting the elevation as far up and down as it'll go but whenever I get a signal and lock onto it I'm getting no quality or level showing on the installation menu. I know the box is working because I picked up a Spanish satellite while I was playing with it back in the UK and I know that all the connections are OK because I picked up the NSS7 satellite the other day with a decent signal. I'm just not finding any satellites anywhere near where the Hispasat and Intelsat 907 are meant to be. The winds too heavy now to hear the beep on the TV inside so I'll give up for the day. So bloody frustrating.

[villamarre]

Nick just put this into dishpointer to give you a rough idea of what you need,if you set the azimuth to 32 degrees if you have scale on side of the dish and then swing the dish through an arc you should get something,if not adjust the azimuth tiny bit more then less and swing again,bear i mind that when you swing the dish it does have to be fairly tight and plumb otherwise you are changing all the angles,i use a satfinder fs1 meter and as you swing it ,it registers signal straight away,once you have something then change skew on lnb which improves strength and quality until you have best signal,if using compass make sure you come away from the dish and house as they can interfere,i lay a broom on floor to give rough line to point dish.


Address: southern france
Latitude: 43.4220°
Longitude: 3.4085°

Satellite: 27.5W INTELSAT 907 (IS-907)
Elevation: 31.1°
Azimuth (true): 221.0°
Azimuth (magn.): 220.2°

You can click and drag the marker

[Mickha]

Hi Mickha, It's a simple Satconn one that I bought a few years back when I was travelling and trying to locate the Astra satellite.

Is it one similar to this?

You should get a signal, even when the dish is pointing at the grouns, by increasing the sensitivity, turning the knob, you get it to around 5, then move your dish, until it reches 10, decrease sensitivity, so it reads 5, move the dish, to get to 10, and keep doing this until you have the strongest signal, then check which satellite you're on.

[Nick Brown]

Make sure the skew is correct as well on lnb.
Where exactly are you?

Pretty sure the skew is about right at about 7 O' clock facing the dish. I'm up in the pyrenees in a village called Lesquerde, France.

[Nick Brown]

That's the one Mickha. I've been using it for the last 10 years or so to locate the Astra satellite in my journeys through France in the camper van. I'd got pretty proficient at finding Astra so didn't think it would be a problem finding the 907. That **** is out there somewhere.:mad:

[Nick Brown]

Is it one similar to this?

You should get a signal, even when the dish is pointing at the grouns, by increasing the sensitivity, turning the knob, you get it to around 5, then move your dish, until it reches 10, decrease sensitivity, so it reads 5, move the dish, to get to 10, and keep doing this until you have the strongest signal, then check which satellite you're on.

As an afterthought Mickha, I'm homing in on several satellites whilst scanning the skies but the receiver which is tuned to the 907 isn't beeping to tell me I'm hitting it. Do you know if there is there any way to tell me which satellites I'm actually tuning into?