can i pick up 19.2 on sky mini dish

[fozzer12]

hi i have a sky mini dish which has been on the house for maybe 10 years or more and i want to move it to astra 19.2e is this possible. if so what would i need to find it and is it hard to do. any help much appreciated thanks in advance.

[dave1234]

Hi yes you should be able to get 19e on a sky mini dish. I can also work out how far you dish needs to be rotated and how much the dish need to be pushed upwards. What I need to do this is

1) your location nearest town
2) The cir***ference of the mounting bar the dish is mounted on
3) Does your dish have a graduated scale to show the vertical dish angle?

[fozzer12]

hi mate thanks for reply i have ordered a digtal sat finder but never used one before could you tell me the steps to find astra 19.2. also what type of cable do i need to connect lnb to sat finder thanks

[Mickha]

Just a normal piece of co-ax cable, same as runs from the LNB to receiver, and two F connectors.
You connect a small piece of cable, from the LNB, to the Satfinder port marked LNB, then the longer piece from the satfinder receiver port to your receiver.
What make/model satfinder have you bought? Even a basic one, for less than £10, will work.
Use dishpointer.com to help give you a general idea where to point your dish, type in your postcode, select Astra 1, 19.2E, from the drod down satellite list, zoom in on the map, and move the green icon to where your dish is positioned.

[TonyO]

Sty lnb's have a fixed skew adjustment which needs to be got rid of, its usually a plastic locator which can be filed off, its about 5 or 6 degrees clockwise, you only need a couple of degrees for 19E or none just about.

[chariotuk]

I'd be inclined to pickup a monoblock only £16 at a certain retailers closing down sale and pull in 13E as well.

I had my old analogue dish pointing at 19.2 and that's all I did pull both SATS in fine in the west midlands area.

Regards.

CUK.

[fozzer12]

Hi is there a video or do you have a picture of what needs filing off. I have ordered a v8 satelite finder

[Mickha]

You didn't need anything so expensive, to set up a fixed dish, a simple satellite finder, available in local DIY stores, should suffice.

[echelon]

Hi is there a video or do you have a picture of what needs filing off. I have ordered a v8 satelite finder

there are several versions of the lnb and lnb holder so without seeing it its difficult to say which type you have and where any lugs are to be filed off

what I can say is that they sit between the lnb holder and the neck of the lnb itself, so the lnb + holder need removing and dismantling before any adapting can take place

the dish discussions forum and lnb discussions forum on here have information and pictures of various adaptations of sly dishes

the monoblock idea is unlikely to work on a sly 39cm mini dish and I had to extend the lnb arm on a sly zone 2 59cm dish in order for a monoblock or lnb rack system to work

a zone 2 sly dish with adapted lnb will work fine on 13e or 19e or 30w , as well as on others like 39e and 23.5e etc

[fozzer12]

Hi I got a monoblock but I don't think the clamp will go round it looking at it i have a sky quad lnb on it at the minute is there anything I can do thanks

[echelon]

fitting a monoblock may be difficult

as I said earlier , so will repeat, the various designs of dish , dish arms , lnbs and lnb clamps mean it all depends on the make and manufacturer of the one you currently have

there have been numerous variations by sly, so impossible to predict what you can do with your lnb and lnb clamp holder without seeing the make and type and pictures of it removed from the actual lnb clamp holder

the lugs referred to earlier will be obvious when they are separated

[chariotuk]

Hi I got a monoblock but I don't think the clamp will go round it looking at it i have a sky quad lnb on it at the minute is there anything I can do thanks

Sorry forgot I used an adapter try googling "sky dish lnb adapter" seems to be a selection from a well known bidding site or Amazooone . I think I got mine from the closing down electrical retailer originally but they don't seem to be carrying them at the moment.

As Ech says though there are about 4 or 5 different types so all I can suggest you photograph yours and compare or post for additional help.

I did try the modification but I found my lnb holder had gone so hard a brittle it was easier to pick another one up. So I decided to get away from the proprietary Sly type of LNB.

[fozzer12]

Hi my lnb is this one
_https://m.****.co.uk/itm/Sky-MK4-LNB-Single-HD-for-Sky-HD-Freesat-HD-1-FREE-F-CONNECTOR/151576539337?hash=item234aaa70c9: g:HQ8AAOSwBahUz9~1


How would I modify this to get 19.2e thanks

[echelon]

take the lnb out of the holder by undoing the bolt with a cross head screwdriver

where it clamps around the neck of the lnb , look for two H shaped plastic lugs sticking out slightly , opposite each other on the lnb itself (on the narrower neck part)

take a file and file them flat so that the lnb will spin all the way round in the holder when reassembled but not fully tightened

then set the skew of the lnb so that the wires willl point straight down if the dish was horizontal and tighten the bolt on the holder up fully

[fozzer12]

hi is the skew the plastic bit that hangs down from the clamp. thanks

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[echelon]

hi is the skew the plastic bit that hangs down from the clamp. thanks



NO, the skew is where it sits in the holder itself, as it could be at 90 degrees , 120 degrees , 180 degrees etc

you refit it so that it is at 0 degrees meaning the wires are in the 6 o`clock position and point straight down when the dish is horizontal

anything other than ZERO degrees means it is skewed by a certain angle

sly dishes and/or LNB`s are skewed in a similar way to if you put one of your ears on your shoulder , like the way dogs sometimes look at you with their heads tilted to one side

[fozzer12]

thanks so if i do that is it just a case of trying to find astra 19 then. also i have a v8 freesat sat finder but i am not sure what i need to do to sca ini a satelite like what i need to set for lnb type diseq etc thanks

[echelon]

on a single fixed dish pointed at 19e you would select

Configuration Mode = simple
Mode = single
Satellite = astra 1KR/1L/1M/1N (19.2E)
Send diseqc = no

[fozzer12]

hi so what would i need if i wanted to fit the monoblock. my sky mini dish is 47cm thanks

[echelon]

if you wanted 13e and 19e then as follows

Configuration Mode = simple
Mode = Diseqc A/B
Port A = Astra 1KR/1L/1M/1N (19.2E)
Port B = Eutelsat Hot Bird 13B/13C/13E (13.0E)
Set voltage and 22Khz = Yes
Send diseqc only on satellite change = no (or might be yes , I am not sure on this one)

I believe you would have to change the lnb arm for a much longer one , possibly twice as long as the original one , which you would have to make yourself from suitable metalwork (such as joining 2 arms together) , details in those dish and lnb forums in the sticky threads

your monoblock is designed to work on an 80cm dish (or bigger)

[fozzer12]

hi chariot i have this SKY DISH MK4 LNB HOLDER/ADAPTER - 40MM adapter on my dish. how big is the dish you are using your monoblock on thanks

[fozzer12]

ok so going to try and sort it tomorrow just need to make sure am doing this right so first take off the lnb and cut off and file the plastic lugs. then not sure? . it is pointing to 28.2e at the minute. if someone could give me a little break down what to do i would really appreciate it thanks again any help much appreciated

[TonyO]

A satellite signal meter would be a great help, guesswork won't do, they are cheap but are a basic requirement to get on sat, a compass gets you near where you should be as well.

[fozzer12]

hi i have a v8 freesat sat finder. could you give me the steps you would take thanks

[Mickha]

Personally I would forget about your Sky dish, they're not that good, for other satellites, and it currently serves its purpose, providing a lot of channels from 28.2E.

What do you want to receive, from 19.2E?
Have you got another dish, or considering getting another dish, and motor?

[chariotuk]

Ok so on the dish apart from the anchor bolts there should be 2 others one which controls left right ( West / East ) and one which controls up /down (elevation).

If using Sat meter a small length of sat cable with 2 F connectors on undoo the f connector to LNB attach to Sat meter Note it may be marked receiver / lnb attach it to the receiver side. Then insert the short length between the lnb and lnb side of meter.

As Mickha said earlier use _http://dishpointer.com to put your post code a Sat in. Drag the green dish to approximately where yours is and it will give you an idea roughly how to adjust left / right assuming UK facing your dish you will need to put some weight on you left hand to move about 9 degrees. You may or may not get a reading from the meter at this point.


When in approximate position nip the left right bolt up the adjust the up/down this should have the most effect on the meter. You wil need to go up by about 3 degrees so tap the top of the dish slightly when meter is at maximum you can try tweaking left/right again but it is just a slight tap that is needed.

I would suggest at this point removing meter and reattach main cable to lnb look at the signal /quality on a sat channel then twist the lnb slightly in the collar as Ech said earlier it should only go to about 2 degrees to the left from verticle. You can also try moving the lnb slightly towards or away from the dish in the collar at this point to tweak signal /quality.

When happy tighten all bolts and enjoy. Just remember one bolt at a time.

[fozzer12]

Thanks chariot. I have just filed the two plastic h shaped lugs on the lnb I have it now so the wires are going in to the top of the lnb pointing down is this right thanks

[fozzer12]

put postcode in dishpointer this is what i get Dish Setup Data thanks
Elevation: 25.8°
Azimuth (true): 153.2°
Azimuth (magn.): 155.0°
LNB Skew [?]: -8.1°

[echelon]

Thanks chariot. I have just filed the two plastic h shaped lugs on the lnb I have it now so the wires are going in to the top of the lnb pointing down is this right thanks

no , they enter the lnb from underneath, so you can see the connectors from the ground , same as before , so from underneath , pointing down

if they are on the top , the lnb is upside down

any dish information you get like above is not for a sly dish , its for the more standard bigger dishes or the ones used on polar mounts

[fozzer12]

Hi really struggling to get the nuts loosened to turn dish the nuts are rusted badly any advice to get them loosened used wd40 and trying ring spanners and socket on them thanks

[fozzer12]

hi i am trying to position my sky mini dish to find 19.2e but i keep getting signal for 28.2 when i try to move it can anyone give me an idea from where 28.2e is to 19.2e. its driving me mad thanks.

[gbmitie]

have you a smatphone and is it iphone or andoid? when you have 28 east 19 is to the right from behind the dish, what receiver have you got and what channel do you use to show its 19 east?

[Mickha]

No need for a second thread, you laready have one open:
https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?177441-can-i-pick-up-19-2-on-sky-mini-dish

Did you check on dishpointer, as to roughly where the dish needs to be pointing?

A small Sky dish is very difficult to align, to 19.2E, if you haven't done it before.
Are you using your Meter correctly?

[fozzer12]

i have a v8 freesat sat finder. when i got a signal i scanned it and it was freeview channels for 28.2e. i selected astra 19.2e but i didnt select a transponder. whats the best fta channel to use to get signal on astra 19.2e. using sat meter gbmittie thanks

[satpaul]

Higher the angle by 3 degrees and move to the west when on 28.2

[echelon]

check the transponders etc on lyng sat or king of sat , look for fta channels and try for those FTA channels on 19 east

same applies to any satellite , look for the fta channels online and use them in order to align the dish

chances are you can use a can***** channel or transponder, or a german channel or transponder

for 13e maybe try for polish channels etc

the news channels tend to be FTA on satellites so I tend to go for those , or FTA music channels

[fozzer12]

Hi found 19.2e. what signal strength should i be getting about. I am getting 57% to 64% on channels. Should I be getting more than that or is that about right for a sky mini dish 45cm. Also I have a sky quad lnb will I be able to connect another box or will it put to much pressure on the signal strength thanks.

[Mickha]

You can connect another receiver.
Did you skew, rotate, the LNB, slightly, to maximize the signal quality?
Personally I would still get another dish, as the 45cm Sky dish isn't that good, except for 28.2E, why not look at a Penta 85cm, they perform well, are pleasing to look at, and wio
th a motor can get you a lot of different satellites.