Using cwfinder

[squash]

how do i find which pid to enter?

I have downloaded the ts file from my triple dragon and it lists the audio and video pid.

When I enter the pid number and then load the ts file the output file i get is CPU support MMX and SSE2 instructions...
Using SSE2 CSA library...
File open ...
Searching for two scrambled payload TS packets ...
ERROR ->END OF FILE.

anyone got any tips ?

Thanks.

[ManikM]

does this program allow you to get a BISS key, in able to watch a channel\ feed!?

[dishdad]

how do i find which pid to enter?

I have downloaded the ts file from my triple dragon and it lists the audio and video pid.

When I enter the pid number and then load the ts file the output file i get is CPU support MMX and SSE2 instructions...
Using SSE2 CSA library...
File open ...
Searching for two scrambled payload TS packets ...
ERROR ->END OF FILE.

anyone got any tips ?

Thanks.

Usually means the '.ts' file is corrupt or not valid. Ensure that the channel/recording was actually encrypted whist you recorded it, many channels use Biss encryption on a part time basis.
Check the file size property value ie: 2MB or 3MB is sufficient for your search process program, faulty /corrupt usually readf '0MB'.
Use a channel eg: RAi Africa or RAi Asia on Hotbird to prove you CW prog is working.

[dishdad]

does this program allow you to get a BISS key, in able to watch a channel\ feed!?

Eventually yes, whereas the famous 'Hash' thread needs lines of hashes to complete a working key syntax to clear the encryption.

[Old_Man]

What channel do you have in mind? :)

[ManikM]

its not a channel mate! just a feed once a month...

[zorr007]

Sorry,I've to question: CWFinder is ok also for search RAS code (RAS is to professional encryption system made with to key "7 digitses" 1257AB9 for example...) of many encoded feeds in this type of unknown professional coding.
Tks in advance for the possible answer.

[Snuffer]

Yes thats posible to i think and for feeds on 12509 hihihih in BISS 100% ok

[dishdad]

Sorry,I've to question: CWFinder is ok also for search RAS code (RAS is to professional encryption system made with to key "7 digitses" 1257AB9 for example...) of many encoded feeds in this type of unknown professional coding.
Tks in advance for the possible answer.

CW Finder searches for fixed Control Words from an encrypted '.ts' file, cannot be used for RAS.

BISS (CW) is not recognised by most as a secure encryption whereas RAS is.

Thanks for your interest in the subject.

[Old_Man]

RAS uses only 7 digits?

[zorr007]

Tks for the answers and RAS/NTL professional encryption uses only 7 digits and always only numerical.
Sorry for my bad English,but I'm an italian and I use a translator.

[Snuffer]

@ old man

Correct and RAS is the house code of TANDBERG recievers only they can use it.

Not a normal reciever.



And also not all Tandberg can use it my 2800 can do it.

[Tavarnelle]

I make a thing:knowing a RAS number,I begin the search with CW finder.
Well:after few minutes the program found a number in hex form.
This number as no connection with the decimal number of starting RAS code
and putting this number in BISS decode window of CW finder ,I had no
decode of transmission.I think that there a connection between this two system with fixed keys(BISS and RAS),but I don't know the connection.
Some ideas?

[Old_Man]

How do you check if the RAS number is correct?

Anyone got the firmware for the Tandberg?

[dejandj]

RAS is only (more or less) csa encrypted biss!
Vahid can implement it...

[Old_Man]

Is there any info how to 'expand' those 7 digits to the 64 bit used for decryption?

(As compared to the well known simple way to get them from the 12 digit CWs used anywhere, including BISS.)

[Tavarnelle]

Simple:one of my friend has a Tandberg encoder.So I generate a code and after I look what happens with CW Finder!
But it is not possible to generate all 10.000.000 of codes,looking what happens with CW finder every time!!
It should be very interesting to understand the connection between RAS generated code and what I found via CW Finder.If someone has some idea .
It should be necessary to find someone who is able to work with CSA .
I can help him giving the number of some RAS codes.

[Tavarnelle]

I forgot to tell that I have also a ALTEIA TANDBERG receiver with RAS and BISS decoding facility.

[Old_Man]

@Tavarnelle
>and putting this number in BISS decode window of CW finder
What version of CWfinder has a "decode window"? :)
(And you have pm.)

@dejandj
Do you mean CSA or RSA?

[Tavarnelle]

CSA=Common Scrambling Alghoritm.
I explain:I start from 000000000000 in CW finder and I find(fortune!!) a number after not a too long time.The version is 0.91.
I have a long experience with video analog scrambling and I solve all problems
many years ago.I should like to solve the Biss problem (too long research) with the same system I used for analog system:reducing the number of researches excluding not possible zone of research.This is a long thing.
I should like to have pm messages,because it is very difficult to explain my idea and this is not (it seems) the place for too long explain.

[Krikkitt]

This IS the place for extended conversations, that's what forums are all about;).

Also lots of people will get to learn and input to the conversation at the same time and not just a few if you use the PM system.



Rgds



K.:)

[Snuffer]

Yep thats it

[dejandj]

[QUOTE=Old_Man;449097@dejandj
Do you mean CSA or RSA?[/QUOTE]

"
Ras RAS is csa scrambled Biss
For those who don't know, RAS key code encryption (Remote Authorisation System) is typically used for occasional feeds (especially live sporting events).
It was developed by NDS/Tandberg and is used in professional Tandberg IRDs like the TT1260 or Alteia.
Instead of using a smartcard, you input a 7-digit key into the IRD.

'Basic Interoperable Scrambling System, usually known as BISS, is a satellite signal scrambling system developed by the European Broadcasting Union and a consortium of hardware manufacturers.
Prior to its development, "ad-hoc" or "Occasional Use" satellite news feeds were transmitted without any encryption.
This allowed anyone with the correct equipment to view the program material.
Using BISS the transmission is protected by a 12 digit "session key" that is agreed by the transmitting and receiving parties prior to transmission.
The key is entered into both the encoder and decoder, this key then forms part of the encryption of the digital TV signal and only receivers with the correct key will decrypt the signal.
The system, however, is insecure.'
"

[Old_Man]

@Tavarnelle
>The version is 0.91.
Where did you find that one?

Would you share the clear and crypted ts used?

[zorr007]

@Tavarnelle
>The version is 0.91.
Where did you find that one?

Would you share the clear and crypted ts used?


CW Finder 0.9.1 is an old patched version by "artman hacker" but for me it is as the version official 0.9.0 beta update by Mover.
Hi.

[squash]

what happened to this then. Did anyone manage to fina the CWfinder 0.9.1 version. I have been using the 9.0 version but it takes ages.

Has anyone had any luck in using the cws list attack function.

[georgekamal]

dear experts, can we open any biss channels on "ALTEIA TANDBERG " receivers , without putting the known biss keys?

regards-george

[moraldo]

Hello
please sport 1 on telestar
help ts files

[harshy]

Hello cwfinder, whilst is very good is far too slow, is there anyway we can speed this up?

[kop998]

thank you

[eyedreams90]

great

[ekaputra77]

English only please

[apichai99]

thank you

[saroteW]

remove plugin biss ....and rec. new.

[alpinerover]

if I record a file on a technomate 5402, I think it will be in .trp format. If I then convert that file to .ts, would it work ok with CW finder?
Also BBC biss keys for 27.5W are 16 long, but the technomate lines are 32 long. Does teh key need to be entered twice or on the left/right or some sort of prefix added to id the channel?

[alpinerover]

having tried the above, the technomate wont record a scrambled channel, so i guess a pc with a dvb-s card is required? ie the qbox or similar.