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goran
04-08-2007, 08:27 PM
Our m8 Grumpy says:D:

"This is the guide most people are referred to, but in practice it is far simpler than all these words suggest esp when you are used to loading firmwares to stb's

Except: :)
I would add that I was unable to use my minimally wired custom made null modem cable that worked fine with my humax, I had to use a fully wired cable I had knocking about which I'd bought years ago, both for firmware and channel editor. I don't know how others got on in this regard
The channel editor isn't very highly featured so I edited a bit using it and finished off editing the channels on the box
Remember to back up channels to guard aganst future losses. also with channel editor I always had to go through process twice to get it to work
loading to and from stb - so if it throws up an error just persist by switching stb off and on again and repeat."


UnOfficial Guide for Max S100 and EL 700 etc update 17th May

THIS IS BEST FROM THE BEST IN THIS FIELD MR HAMISH [SCRUFFY] MANY THANNEWS: New Software issued 16th May 2007.
All other updates since then are Keys only.

PLEASE DO TAKE YOUR TIME - READ THIS FIRST

FIRST GET THE LATEST SOFTWARE FIRST HAND. /color]
The Latest Max S100 and Clones Updates Flash ( *.bin ) Files can
be found in posts on this site.
[ww.moresat.net/download/index.html
http://fmax.moresat.net/maxs100/index.html
Also Download Maxeditor.exe

Make sure you have the latest ALIMINIUPG2.EXE Programme.
It is also a good idea to put them all in the same folder.

========CONNECTING TO YOUR PC AND STB=============
You need a 9 pin 3 wire null modem cable between the STB
and your computer. Best to have 9 pin serial connection on the Computer
side as well. If you are making the cable yourself then
-> Connect 2-3 3-2 5-5. and nothing else.
In other words 3 straight through wires - then reverse 2 and 3 on one side.
If you absolutely have to use a usb -> 9 pin null modem
BUT make sure you have the software for it and/ or set it up correctly.
(Some USB to 9 pin Null modem cables can be erratic in operation.)
NOTE:There appears to be a problem with some usb null modem cables and the
ALIMINIUPG2.EXE loader on these clones. The cable works
with other STB's and flashes software - but seems to read the data
from the STB bit will not send the flash.bin file. Solution is to use
another PC with a RS232 (Serial Port ).
IF This is NOT a NEW STB Save your Favourites.
The way to do this is as follows.
Menu Channel Save Channel list and Settings.
Input Password 0000
Do you want to save current etc. Select YES
Come out of menu - Turn off STB.

Now Start the ALIMINIUPG2 software on your PC.
Ensure the STB Receiver is turned OFF with the switch at the back.
Wait about Ten secon#s. The Power Light MUST remain off.

Now Return to the Computer.
Open the ALIMINUPG programme
1. select the appropriate sw.v1.3.4.mmddyy.bin file.
2.Select the Com port (The one connected to the Cable on the computer).
3. Click Next.
In the next few secon#s Turn the STB ON using the switch at the Back.
This will start the process .
Dont touch anything till it is finished !
Once the transfer is done turn the receiver off for 5-10 secon#s
and then turn it back on again.

====ONCE IT STARTS UP (It takes up to 10 secon#s) BE PATIENT====
From the IRD Select Menu Tools Factory Default.
The code to enter here is 0000
After the factory reset you then need to rescan the channels for
the satellite(s) selected.
================================= ============
From the IRD Select Menu and key in 2020 and set CAS DECODING to on.
HIT THE MENU KEY THEN 2 0 2 0
QUITE SLOWLY AND DELIBERATELY.
If you do it quickly it will not work.
Menu 2020 toggles the CAS on and Off.
Become comfortable doing this - its a bit finnicky.
If you cannot do this then you are stuck with FTA !!!!
Finally Restore FAVOURITES if you saved them!
Menu Channel Restore Channel list and Settings.
Input Password 0000
"The operation will restore the last backup etc. Select YES .
This RESTORES YOUR PREVIOUSLY SAVED CHANNEL LIST
after A FLASH UPGRADE.
=============A=U=T=O=R=O=L=L===== =========== .

Autoroll Toggle ON / OFF . Key in Menu 2 1 2 1


===T=0=====M=A=N=U=A=L=L=Y==A=D=D ==K=E=Y=S=====
You can hand key in the Keys from the menu if the CAS is ON.
Key options on the menu are not visible with the CAS turned OFF

Menu -> Tools -> Key Editor.
Select Encryption System
Select Key
Then Enter Values
Using the Remote Keys like a mobile phone.
NAGRA2 Keys go in as 32 Hex characters against
the current Key number either 00 or 01..
DO NOT PUT 16 Characters in Key 00 and 16 Characters
in Key 01 - It's NOT the way to do it .

The Procedure for BISS or D Keys is slightly different.
Got to the channel you wish to decrypt on the normal mode.
The screen will say Scrambled.
Then Press Menu ->Keys Editor - > BISS .
Then enter the BISS or D and the Keys as required.
Don't forget to SAVE them!


===========OTHER USEFUL SOFTWARE =============
The Original Software for the Max S100 is in
http://www.ftemaximal.com
It has no built in keys. If you s up you can try flashing
with this firmware - it should get you back to where you started.
ALIEDITOR
You can use Alieditor.exe to read and write to the Receiver.
You can introduce new channels, and hand key in favourites
from scratch.
I have never worked out how to get the Favourites on a STB
back to ALI Editor and then edit them. I have found it much easier
to edit the favourites on the STB then save them as described above.
Do the Flash and then restore them. That was until MORESAT
developed MaxEditor.exe which you
should use. It is on this forum and has a whole section of its own.
Do use it and help develope it !!
It does what Ali Editor does not do- You can edit the channels
and favourites with software - easily, and push and pull them
from the STB. The script.ini file was updated on 14/05/2007.

ALL_KE.exe
This allows you to import softcam.key files
- It shows up structural errors in the softcam.key files.
Many softcam.key files are not 100% and you may need to
fix them with any basic text editor (i.e. Notepad) before
you compile and upload the data from the PC to the STB.
http://world-sat.info/showthread.php?t=43507
The software tells you the line number in the text file where
the error is - they are usually easy to spot. It isn't high power
software debugging. If in doubt delete the line. Most of those
keys are antiques and havent worked for months or even years!

If you are only adding one or two keys it is easier to do it with
the remote - using the method described above.

Master Code for the Max S100 is 3327
================================= ==============
Your Information should Read as follows.

Bootloader 0.9.6 - 07/12/2006
CAS_data 1.00 - 25/03/2007
maincode 1.3.4 - 16/05/2007
defaultdb 1.0.0 - 22/01/2007
mcu version 1.1.2 - 22/04/2006

WARNING : THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES YOU DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK
_________________
You should not use this information to watch Pay TV without a subscriptionKS

goran
05-08-2007, 12:20 PM
DiSEqC 1.2 and Echolink recs - HOW TO:


Yes in the antenna setting menu under LNB all the dish settings are in there.

Good luck

Here's how I did it and it helps if you know the approximate compass position of the sats your looking for.

Hope it makes sense :)

1. Menu
2. Installation>ok
3.Antenna Setup>ok (you may get a box on screen telling you to wait for dish to be moved)
4.Select sat to be found.
5.Enter LNB config>ok
6.Positioner> DiSEqC12>ok
7.Position to save(enter a unique number for each sat position)
8.Move east/west to find selected satellite.(Signal bars will indicate if you hit the position).>ok
9. Go back 2 menu screens using>Menu> to search function section then scan the satellite you have found.
10. Repeat the process untill you have the sats you need.

goran
05-08-2007, 07:16 PM
A bit more to remember/watch out for...


Make sure its actually moving the dish when it displays the message as it stays in the same position but says its moving it.

I can see my dish at the bottom of the garden when programming the 777 it shows "please wait for moving dish to reference point" message, but the dish isn't moving it just seems to memorize the position whilst the message is displayed.

HAve fun :)

grumpyy
07-08-2007, 03:38 AM
Ammendment to my comment above re long minimally wired null modem
cable

I finally got everything to work using my custom made 11m cable.
Previously I'd tried doing it the "proper" way with no success.

This time I left the echolink ON before opening ALIMINIUPG2 / loaded the firmware into ALIMINIUPG2 / clicked Next / "Test serial port status" message appears/ switched stb off with front standby button / Then switched on with same button again / firmware began downloading to stb / END appears on stb display / switched off at back [it wouldn't switch off with front standby button] / switched on again / Success !

A similar approach worked with the settings editor, remembering to repeat procedure if "port error" message appears / click OK to get rid of error box / switch stb off and on again with Maxeditor still open and settings should download.
Select user chunk rather than defaut.

So..........just muck about with different permutations if the othodox way doesn't work.

popo02
30-08-2007, 05:39 PM
Bravissimo !!

:D

Siegfried
30-08-2007, 11:19 PM
Does anyone know the Master Code for the Wiztech 2100 IR? Is it 3327 as for the Echolink? A friend has forgotten his Parental code value.

Many thanks.

Siegfried
01-09-2007, 10:30 PM
It is the same key. The password is now reset.