AzBox HD

[xxxAxxx]

looks very nice but i dont have more info fr this stb all i know is linux base and 2xcard 2xCi and ethernet.....also there's no info when will be in the market azbox team they given very good support for now and they very fast...

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4158/azboxec2.jpg

[Looker]

AFAIK and according all features I had read about it ,it is not linux based. ;)

[xxxAxxx]

r you sure about it cos one of the tester write like this

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/7969/infoazboxsh9.jpg

[Looker]

Take a look to features:

[xxxAxxx]

aha,it's look like a fake info from the tester,,,and i cant see the rj45 input port i guess they will do the CS with dongle interface modul-->rs232 he he he this is not good

[xxxAxxx]

ok thanks for the info we'r wating.....

[pipino]

AZbox is crap anyway another box from china ,same shayt different color

[Looker]

AZbox is crap anyway another box from china ,same shayt different color

That's just your personal opinion ;) ,but I can say when you own an AZbox ,it is really super quality building. I have mine since nearly 1 year now , and support from Opensat is aweful.
I did'nt had any problem with mine ,but 1 friend had some minor problems with the remote control ,and manufacturer guaranteed is excellent.

Sure the AZbox HD will be my next receiver. :):)

[raul]

what box is not from china ? :)

azbox surely has the very best inside info about h a c k s , what other emu opens
tv globo , let alone has AU on this provider ??

if you don't like spending time with open source solutions , surely a HD box from azbox
is a strong candidate !

[xxxAxxx]

i think linux is other world more options have....if i need to buy hd receiver i better invest my money on open source....

[ceyer]

Update from azboxworld:

Newest info:

It will come with HDD integrated inside.
Also it will be two models type single and twin tunner.
PVR

the deadline is end of march, price 300 EUR.-


300€- with a HDD?? - If that´s true I´ll definitely buy one. :-)

[pipino]

still shayt to me ,its another shoe box in the cupboard ,apart from linux box nothing is good any more

[SAW II]

@pipino
why is not good!
azbox is so good for all things...

[BE-COOL]

still shayt to me ,its another shoe box in the cupboard ,apart from linux box nothing is good any more

I agree.

[Likvid]

AZbox is crap anyway another box from china ,same shayt different color


Agreed, i hate all **** coming from China and they have the nerves taking alot of money for their products when they know it's all plastic ****.

[Looker]

Agreed, i hate all **** coming from China and they have the nerves taking alot of money for their products when they know it's all plastic ****.

And from where do you think all receivers are coming from today ??:rolleyes:

Anyway ,all these kind of posts pro linux/ anti-linux ,pro or anti china are totally useless on this kind of topic.

[Likvid]

And from where do you think all receivers are coming from today ??:rolleyes:

Anyway ,all these kind of posts pro linux/ anti-linux ,pro or anti china are totally useless on this kind of topic.


Ever heard about Korea? :rolleyes:

That's where the quality receivers comes from.

[Likvid]

AFAIK and according all features I had read about it ,it is not linux based. ;)

I thought discussing Linux was useless in this thread :rolleyes:

Well, back to work...

[pipino]

some ppl have some commercial interest thats why they come up saying how wonderfull china crap is

[xxxAxxx]

true ,,,,@pipino this box not usefull in our world..also every body free to do anythink if they like this they buy it there problem...

[Looker]

Ever heard about Korea? :rolleyes:

That's where the quality receivers comes from.

So according what you say ,the AZbox ST710 I use and enjoy since 1 year is a very quality receiver ,cause I can read near :"made in Korea".:D:D:D

Wake up ,seems you are still thinking like last century ,but we are now on 21th century with globalisation.
You are thinking like my grand father when he saw last year the car I just bought ,a Chrysler Crossfire.

-What a sh*t he said to me ,but damned why do you buy an american car ,they are all bad quality ,why don't you bought a good German car like my VW ,here is good german car quality ,only german know how to build a quality car.
When I proove him my Chrysler Crossfire was build in Germany ,directly in Mercedes-Benz factory,using same body and motor as the Mercedes SLK while his VW came directly from ...Mexico !! he was sick.

[dniestre]

I got latest info that new AzBox HD will be Linux based HD receiver like Kathrein, IPBox or DreamBox DM800. It will use latest Sigma Chipset and CPU, with more capabilities for IPTV etc, and they told that this will be real multimedia box. Maybe the bad thing is that it will have for some time Close source, but i think that we will get Gbox and MGcamd on it ;) . The style of this STB is awsome...

if its true, i think its good news. :respect-067:

[Yoda]

It seems to be true, this has been posted by Admin on the forum for the product.

Latest News :

AzBox HD STB will be Linux based HD Receiver - Yes, you have read correct -

It will use latest Sigma chipset and CPU, Source will be closed, but i think that we will find a way to make working mgcamd and gbox, release date will be end of May or start of June

[BE-COOL]

It seems to be true, this has been posted by Admin on the forum for the product.

Latest News :

AzBox HD STB will be Linux based HD Receiver - Yes, you have read correct -

It will use latest Sigma chipset and CPU, Source will be closed, but i think that we will find a way to make working mgcamd and gbox, release date will be end of May or start of June

In a few months we may have lots of linux HD receivers to choose from.

Cheers. :respect-010:

[xanadu]

This AzBox I am also interested in.

[birkenhead]

It looks a lovely box, but... wait for it.... without a Ethernet port the box is close to useless.

unless some says different?

[BE-COOL]

Posted by Magic_Az:

2 USB on rear + 1 USB on Frontal
Wireless NEtwork
RJ45
2 scarts
HDMI
Modulator
Smart Tunner (modular )
And microphone wireless ?'1?!

Cheers.

[BE-COOL]

http://azbox.hu/image/features.jpg

http://azbox.hu/image/leftup-1-1.jpg

http://azbox.hu/image/mid-1.jpg

http://azbox.hu/image/right-sec-1.jpg

[BE-COOL]

http://azbox.hu/image/rightup-1-1.jpg

http://azbox.hu/image/left-down1.jpg


Cheers.

[A]

They are making very gooood receivers, but this one AzBox HD will be great :)
yes if it ONLY has support

[DaOne]

yes if it ONLY has support

Yes very very true A
For me , If this box can not run cccam , or gbox nor handle a SLY HD card on C/S
Then it can catch dust on the shelf
But time will tell when the support starts rolling in
Untill then
Im being Eber neeeeezaa screwge
hehe

:party:

[scrupples]

If it can run cccam I`m having one!!

[A]

for most ppl its ccam which HD box does it we will see, the specs of this box however look great

[Yoda]

for most ppl its ccam which HD box does it we will see, the specs of this box however look great

Its only going to be the dm800 that has cccam, as they are best buddies with DM.

So thats why the DM800 will sell like hot cakes.

Yoda

[A]

I think so too dvi to hdmi adapter will be needed too:respect-010:

[dubious]

I think so too dvi to hdmi adapter will be needed too:respect-010:

DVI > HDMI cable comes in the box which also carries audio. :respect-048:

[pipino]

i dont see Linux on that box specs anywere and by the way being tied up only with WIFI conexion only is not good enough..regards

[bobi]

nice looking boxes realy.

One thing NeotionBox

do you know if the hardware and the linux software will have anything incoment with the Relook/cuberevo
is this an OEM production , or a standard production from AzBox ??

cheers

bobi

[Yoda]

@ NeotionBox

Any idea when they are going to be available to buy ?

Yoda

[bobi]

if my memory servers me right the software will not be open source
but i maybe wrong .

Strange how come that DGS from korea has had relook now so many years
how come that AzBox has the right to the name , was it register from azbox before the DGS acctualy did
produce their boxes ??

the Problem is not the price always , but the support , that what matters in the end
and the hardware, ( my self i care more for the hardware than the software)

cheers

bobi

[Yoda]

I think second week of June.... Maybe they will publish it on Anga :)

Thanks mate...

Really interested in this box now.

Yoda

[xanadu]

I will be buying this AZBOX Premium HD receiver as it has the latest CPU unlike existing released boxes, some of which took so long to come out they are out of date.

Don't think I will bother with the Dreambox 800 at the moment as it's too overpriced for what it does at the moment.

Most consumer electronics has fallen in price but some receivers like IPBox 9000/Dreambox 8000 are not worth the asking price.

[BE-COOL]

Great news, I hope to see these receivers playing divx, because it was an feature that ipbox 9000HD advertised and did not accomplished.

Finally manufacturers realized that linux is the way to go.


Cheers.

[xanadu]

Great news, I hope to see these receivers playing divx, because it was an feature that ipbox 9000HD advertised and did not accomplished.

Exactly. :cheers2:

The IPBOX 9000 has been very slow with firmware updates, and I don't see that box going much further. probably no better than the Kathrein.

[pipino]

Now i am talking as satellite guru...

no comment:conehead:

[pipino]

i dont think you know what the word hate means my friend,,look at my posts about DM then make conclusions , alright mr SATGURU :)..cheers

[pipino]

if you see the state and hardware of the DM800 beleive me ,IPBOX 9000 is a king ,may be ppl are complaining about Cccam not running in it but if you try chameleon2 and mgcamd its working very well ,and IPBOX 9000 as a box is very well designed , have a look Drdish review..by the way i dont owned personaly the box ,it belongs the the company i work for ;) ,ahhh and dont worry about my cinical remarks they are harmless ;)..cheers

[pipino]

sorted!! back the topic...cheers

[Tarzan]

Is this box ever going to be released or is it all talk?

[bobi]

well they said september end
so lets see if they will or is this all just talk talk talk from AZBOX side

cheers

bobi

[xanadu]

October 1st is release date.

We shall see... or not......

[cyprusdunc]

Hi m8,now the HD box world is looking really interesting,let us know when prices are posted, Dunc.

[Robxxx7]

great price .... really looking forward to seeing this one out on sale

[mytoza]

Neotionbox great news on the AZbox but can you show us any output from the softcams in use
ie. screenshots of OSD with name displayed or some of the info from Cccam's webif which will show it is running.

Sorry to cast doubts but with a certain supplier of boxes claiming his box will do this that and the other when all the facts would seem to point against it I am just wary of any claim that a box is running Cccam that isn't a Dream or Itgate.

[x5]

Neotionbox great news on the AZbox but can you show us any output from the softcams in use
ie. screenshots of OSD with name displayed or some of the info from Cccam's webif which will show it is running.

Sorry to cast doubts but with a certain supplier of boxes claiming his box will do this that and the other when all the facts would seem to point against it I am just wary of any claim that a box is running Cccam that isn't a Dream or Itgate.


yep would be nice to see if CCcam realy works on this box
if u can post pics would be great

[pipino]

i hope its true because to be honest with you i dont trust the guys from Azbox ,they have fail us so many times before ,they have the habit to promise things (like the emu for the spanish bleu V9 card last year) and did cash up out of that publicity and the end NADA ,,so Azbox team watch it

[BE-COOL]

It looks good for the price.
CCCam support it's a great news if it's confirmed, if not NewCS would do the job for me.

Can the mkv video files support be confirmed?

It's nice to see an alternative to Enigma, I don't like Enigma very much and don't understand why every linux sat receiver manufacturer is copying it instead of innovating the sat scene.

What about blind scan and 4:2:2 feeds?

Lets see if it cames out first than DarkBox 9000.

Cheers.

[mytoza]

Biggest reason for enigma is because of Cccam, the owner of the source code has only developed it for enigma and I believe some desktop linux.
There is a lot of speculation as to whether Cccam is owned by a private individual(s), the gemini team or Dream itself but one thing is for sure there has never been any movement on bringing it to other types of linux or processors outside those used by Dream

[BE-COOL]

DM100 is not Enigma and runs CCCam, the problem is not Enigma but the processor the receiver uses, since CCCam hasn't been compiled to Sh4 processors that most Dreambox competitors use(Kathrein,DGStation).

I like CCCam, but why don't they create a new and better Emu for sharing, it is stupid to try to pay more than DM for the CCCam suport.

They should create a new OS and EMU. Enigma and CCCam are far from perfect.

Cheers.

[mytoza]

Thats a good point Dm100 is not enigma but it also proves the point about Cccam only being for Dream.

It would be nice to produce a new emu but again no over emu can read cccam because the source is closed and like it or not it is the defacto emu now.
As for OS there are some nice ones out there already as shown with this AZbox which seems very good from the pictures.

[mytoza]

Thanks NeotionBox but I have been through all the pictures and still cannot find anything to indicate Cccam working or any other cam for that matter

[zyciowa]

NeotionBox pls give us a new pictures to see what it look like from the back panel?

[pipino]

and if you add the picture of motherboard from the inside

[gasth404]

Is this box really ready. With google i find only same pictures and text that it coming " in the beginning of 2008". Looks like same other HD boxes that only PR but nothing real in shops.

[Tarzan]

That interface is alone worth 250 euros but then how is the tuner quality / capability on weak signals??

[cacul]

How looks remote control ? :leaving:

[cacul]

Different these the remote control, at least the one is big a bit similar.


Screenshot from Anga Cable. :gnorsi:

http://azbox.nl/CMS/images/stories/anga_2008/azbox_hd_menu3jpg.jpg

[croato]

i see 2 mac adress ,so there will be ethernet and wifi both

[ceyer]

Hi there,

have you already tested the sensitivity of the tuner ?

How does it cope with low quality signals?

What´s the "zapping" speed espacially between SD+HD chls??

[Tarzan]

Am I missing something here???

There are pictures of the Relook Receiver ...

[BE-COOL]

If the receiver can play mkv files as shown in the osd pics it will be an serious competitor for the DM8000.

Cheers.

[BE-COOL]

I think that the monopoly of linux receivers is about to end for Dream Multimedia, with the mkv files playback and CCCam protocol with the release of Incubus Cam for others Linux Receivers.

Since the CCCam protocol is about to work in every linux receiver (regardless the processor they use) I think that prices will drop and linux receivers will be even more popular than they are now.


Cheers. :)

[wodennho]

hi am wodennho i need more inforematin about these

[wodennho]

hi am wodennho i need more inforematin about these

[BE-COOL]

I already found one online store that says that they will have AzBoxHD in stock on 10 November (2008).

NeotionBox keep us updated :)


Cheers :)

[davie]

I already found one online store that says that they will have AzBoxHD in stock on 10 November (2008).

NeotionBox keep us updated :)


Cheers :)

What price are they charging?

[BE-COOL]

The price is still unknown.

[gasth404]

My info told me , price for end user, 250 EUR ( Wi-Fi ), 200 EUR ( Without Wi-Fi ), ....
Dont think that so cheap. Find from one spanish SAT shop
AZBox HD
Precio: 346.84€ (incluido I.V.A.)
Disponibilidad: Proximamente disponible
But this is small version of this receiver. Normal looks AZBox HD Premium but no price for this.

[BE-COOL]

346.84€ is too expensive, in google I found 3 spanish online stores that will sell this receiver we just have to wait to see who will sell it cheaper.

Kathrein UFS 910 is far from perfect, but now it uses Enigma2 with Mbox and Incubus Cam for CCCam and costs 249€ in a portuguese store, so I will wait and see.

The whole concept of linux/open source is being distorted regarding sat receivers, it should make receivers cheaper, not expensiver, like it does with computers.

Sat receivers manufacturers and sellers are taking advantage of the popularity of linux receivers in sat scene to charge the prices they want.

It would be great to see one sat receiver trully open source appear made by the sat comunity and for the sat comunity (without profits in mind), if a sat forum started a project like this it would became huge.

Cheers.

[goran]

Just 2 Qs: will it have a dual sat tv tuner?:redface:

And Polarmount Internal Positioner?:beatdeadhorse5:

Otherwise: :respect-013:

Thanx!:respect-069:

[davie]

I already found one online store that says that they will have AzBoxHD in stock on 10 November (2008).

NeotionBox keep us updated :)


Cheers :)

Now saying first week of December. 280 Euros.

Do we have any proof yet that this actually works with cccam? That is the only reason I am interested.

[ceyer]

I found a german shop saying it´ll be available from 17.Nov

AZbox HD Premium Linux WLAN 299 EUR
Azbox HD Elite Linux LAN 259 EUR

But no mention of an internal HDD to be added?!

@NeotionBox

do you know how many smartcard readers the Premiun version has?? 1or2?

Can you tell us something about the preformance of the tuner?
How does it cope with weaker signals, is it as sensitive as the Humax 5400??

[ceyer]

Thanks for that ,

is it right that the Azbox Premium has got 2 Tuners?

1 DVB-S and 1 DVB-T ??


cheers

[BE-COOL]

It would be interesting to know if we will get images only from AzBox team or there will be others teams developing images for this receiver allowing users to choose which image they like more.

:king-042:

[Asaphus]

Now actualy a few spanish online stores have them in stock for around 320 euros:nopity:.

[goran]

We want:

1) dual sat tv tuner;

2) internal positioner for polarmount setups!!!!:seeya:

Danke, thanx, hvala, merci, shukran, falem derit, spasiba, teshekur ederim, efcharisto, dzienkuie, grazie..........:cheers2::respect-037::respect-039:

[geezerpl]

I've ordered 3 boxes PREMIUM from the German-Bosnian shop :)
I love this Azbox already as it fits 100% what I was looking for !

[Asaphus]

They have no price tag on it:rolleyes:.

[Tarzan]

yes they do have a price tag...

go to google.de and search for AzBox HD and you will see the ste

[colla]

Hey NeotionBox

You have said that these softcams are working on the AzBox HD


Tested OK with : CCcam 2.0.9 ( Client ), Gb0x ( Client ), MGCamd ( Gbox client OK, as Internal Emu Ok ), Newcamd and NewCS ( Also OK ).


and you have said that the Premium version has

Premium has 2 CI, and 2 Smartcard readers


That are great news
Have you tried to use both smartcard readers simultaneously with newcs an cccam?

I think this receiver would have great possibilitys as cs server

[catseye]

Im looking for new HD Linux box -not sure which one to opt for

Choices are

DM8000 HD - non starter due to price

IP9000 HD -looks really good-got a few issues to be sorted, gathering good support but the price again is reason im reluctant at the moment

AZ Box HD- seems to tick all the right boxes so far including price if its correct-@ NeotionBox do we have an offical release date yet & do you know of any other teams showing 'interest' in this machine:applause-003:

Regards & :respect-013:

[izaro]

hi all, i'am new in this board :blush5:

see some information for the HD-Box (HighDefinition Box / osd screenshots / german-language) :respect-048:

Azbox HD (http://www.ng-box.com/index.php?q=node/6)

regards izaro

[catseye]

Thanks & Welcome to Satpimps:respect-051:

[Asaphus]

yes they do have a price tag...

go to google.de and search for AzBox HD and you will see the ste

Yes, now there is! Strange;).

[Tarzan]

Yes, now there is! Strange;).

That's the way google works...

[goran]

So, will it be possible to install 2 satellite tuners?

And if so [instead of the terrestrial tuner] - will it be supported in terms of FW and SW, please?

[catseye]

Hi

Ive copied this from the place thats selling them -apologies in advance i think it means they are on sale from 17 Nov 08

Quote -'Dieser Artikel wird voraussichtlich ab dem Montag, 17. November 2008 wieder vorrätig sein'

Feel free to edit, delete or remove it if it breaks any rules on here

Ive asked our sponsers if they will stock them

Cheers

[Asaphus]

So, will it be possible to install 2 satellite tuners?

And if so [instead of the terrestrial tuner] - will it be supported in terms of FW and SW, please?

and ofcourse it would be nice to know for sure weather or not the o/s is open source:rolleyes:.

[goran]

Ahem, NB... I'm from Humanities, not from tech sciences, sorry... So, I prefer not guessing... Hence a straight answer would be cool, please...:Angel_anim:

Thanx!;)

[Asaphus]

@Goran

In your pc you have generic drivers for usb flash disk devices, so when you connect it it is recognized, and when you unplug it your PC is also working ?!

So i think this is answer to your question :)

@Asaphus

Yes, it is OpenSource, toolchain, sdk and api will be published next week on azboxworld

Thanks for that:respect-040:. I just hope that this device is as well-built as my IPBOX.

One more question: any info on where is it being manufactured (Korea, China)?

[mil2004]

Out today and is on its way to me

Azbox HD Premium Linux WLAN Die neue Generation von Multimedia PVR HD Linux Receiver

[catseye]

mil2004

Dont forget to post on your findings -when are you expecting delivery?

Cheers

[catseye]

Ive been informed price to uk (for WLAN version) including delivery etc will be 317.50 euros

Delivery 3-4 working days

On sale from 17 Nov 08

[gerryl]

look forward to seein this...was on the verge of 9000...so will await yer feed back:respect-046:

[ceyer]

Would be great if someone here could say something about the
compatibility of the internal smartcard readers.

Does a G-a-m-m-a work in them, what about SECA2 cards???

Will a Diablo Cam work in the AZbox??

[xanadu]

Ive been informed price to uk (for WLAN version) including delivery etc will be 317.50 euros

Delivery 3-4 working days

On sale from 17 Nov 08


Now expected in December due to software problems.

I might just end up with QBox HD if the dates keep slipping. :001_07:

[goran]

I remember a very promising DGstation lovely product that never came... 2 tuners and all that... and especially: with the wireless additional station for an additional TV in the house...:001_07:

[john333]

its already for sale on german web shop bosnasat ******* regards john

[norman11]

its already for sale on german web shop bosnasat ******* regards john
It is indeed John333, the trouble is the site is in Giorman, and trying to contact them by phone is no good.
The spec looks good for the Azbox....but the Qbox has also got a good spec. AFAIK the next AZbox's are available from the first week of December.
The problem is until there is any feedback on these box's and how well they work it is very dificult to know which one to go for.:respect-010:

[catseye]

Ive checked with Lee from Goldwafers (our sponsers) he says they've got no plans to sell these for the time being

I emailed the German company who plan to sell them from next monday & got an english response

I think what will push the sales of this machine, as the spec looks really good, will be who or what teams decide to support it - a bit like the Technomate 9100 when that came out

[xanadu]

its already for sale on german web shop bosnasat ******* regards john

It's not on sale anywhere mate.

That site states 2 weeks delivery.

It is expected to be December before the box is ready.

Dates are known to slip, as happened many times with Dreambox HD

[geezerpl]

This ghost HD decoder is getting more expensive.
Good I ordered three for 299 Euro each :)
Now the price tag at Bosnasat = 365 Euro !

[goran]

Can I have one, please?:king-041:

[Asaphus]

This ghost HD decoder is getting more expensive.
Good I ordered three for 299 Euro each :)
Now the price tag at Bosnasat = 365 Euro !

I wonder what hapened to the advertised price (250 and 200 euros for the wifi and non wifi versions respectivly):banghead:?

[goran]

It was more 250 and 300, to be fair..

[Tarzan]

I wonder what hapened to the advertised price (250 and 200 euros for the wifi and non wifi versions respectivly):banghead:?

The prices go up because of people showing their desperation to get hold of one of these boxes...

[izaro]

data sheet and backside picture

Infos/technische Daten/Bild der Rückseite (http://reseller1359.res.dd3724.kasserver .com/ftp/azbox/AZBOX_HD_Premium.pdf)

nice weekend izaro

[Asaphus]

It was more 250 and 300, to be fair..

You're correct m8. My mistake:redface:. Nevertheless...:rolleyes:.

[goran]

Indeed, :rolleyes: !!!

I pressed the point on the sellers...:iagree::smash: :confused:

[goran]

i hope its true because to be honest with you i dont trust the guys from Azbox ,they have fail us so many times before ,they have the habit to promise things (like the emu for the spanish bleu V9 card last year) and did cash up out of that publicity and the end NADA ,,so Azbox team watch it

I see, I didn't know this... Thanx!

However, as opposed to DreamMM killers of other people's hardware - can they be worse than that?

[goran]

Here is the info I asked for:


2nd tuner possible and will be available in january for about 15-20 eur.
365 is the correct price.

infos you can find here =>


_hxxp://ngboxcom.dyndns.tv/ftp/azbox/AZBOX_HD_Premium.pdf
_hxxp://ng-box.com/modules/gallery2

[Yoda]

I just want a to say a massive thank you to NeotionBox or keeping us all updated via this thread on this exciting product.
I cant wait to get my hands on one now.

Thanks

Yoda

[Asaphus]

I cant wait to get my hands on one now.

Thanks

Yoda

May the force be with you then m8:).

[ceyer]

This all to me seems like a big rip off.

This machine loses some of it´s specs as we speak.

When I ordered it the seller confirmed that it had a DVB-T and DVB-S
tuner, 2 x CI and 2 internal cardreaders .

Just 2 weeks later there´s on 1 tuner (DVB-S) left.
1 cardreader and even only 1 CI slot??

I guess I´ll better cancel my order before HDTV vanishes as well

[Yoda]

This all to me seems like a big rip off.

This machine loses some of it´s specs as we speak.

When I ordered it the seller confirmed that it had a DVB-T and DVB-S
tuner, 2 x CI and 2 internal cardreaders .

Just 2 weeks later there´s on 1 tuner (DVB-S) left.
1 cardreader and even only 1 CI slot??

I guess I´ll better cancel my order before HDTV vanishes as well

Where are you getting this information from mate ?

Yoda

[colla]

look at ng-box.com

http://reseller1359.res.dd3724.kasserver .com/ftp/azbox/AZBOX_HD_PREMIUM_1.jpg

[Yoda]

Ah I see what you mean, I would agree that you should cancel your order until you have clarification on this mate.

Yoda

[colla]

On another board a member called AzboxTest has written that the pictures shows the mainboard of the elite Azbox


But for me more important is the question if there will be a defintiv support for the cccam (and other mips softcams from the dreamboxes)

Can you confirm that NeotionBox?
For the actual revision of this receiver ^^

Because configuration changes so often and fast that most people don't know what there are buying

In germany we say we are buying the cat in the bag ;)

[jobusca]

@ NeotionBox
Thanks for your presentation about the azbox.
My self I have an Dm800 and a few other Dreambox models but I have at least 3 friends that are in the market for a receiver like the DM800 but at lower cost.
Can you please confirm that CCcam runs on this as client and if the cccam version (s) are the very same ones that run on dreamboxes or are they modified versions?

Can you confirm if the softcams for the azbox that you tested are the same as dreamboxes or it's modified version?

Also the DM800 does not ready cards that need to run at 3.57mhz like nagra3 cards from tv cabo. What type of smartcard reader support does it have?
The support on Dm500/Dm7000,Dm7020 is great as it works with my tv cabo card but will the azbox models work the same?

Thanks in advance.

[Yoda]

Lets hope that the image is from the elite board then, do we know when these are going on sale yet ?

Yoda

[BE-COOL]

Expected to be in 1st December as well as the others competitors like QBox HD and DM8000
Let's see which receiver arrives first.


Cheers.

[colla]

1st December?

The shop where i have pre ordered the Azbox HD has told me today that they expect the Azbox HD for the 10th December

[BE-COOL]

Yes, you can also find one bosnian/german store that is expecting to have them in stock sooner:

Für weitere Informationen, besuchen Sie bitte die Homepage zu diesem Artikel.

Dieser Artikel wird voraussichtlich ab dem Samstag, 29. November 2008 wieder vorrätig sein.

In Portuguese and Spanish stores the expected date is 1st December.


Cheers.

[Carp95]

AzBox have own developed version of CCCam with better protocol usage ( UDP ) and so on....

Will it be aible to connect to "old" CCcam protocol (TCP) thats what people want to know I guess.

For many people thats important, with that you could seemlessly dig into excisting "networks"

[Yoda]

AzBox have own developed version of CCCam with better protocol usage ( UDP ) and so on....

Great news.

Thanks for clearing that up mate, have you used cccam on your test box? Can you confirm that it is working ?

Yoda

[BE-COOL]

AzBox have own developed version of CCCam with better protocol usage ( UDP ) and so on....

Great news:applause-038:

QBox HD vs AzBox HD will be great to watch :lurk5:

[bobi]

AzBox have own developed version of CCCam with better protocol usage ( UDP ) and so on....

nice bews realy, been wating on this box now very looong.

But we need prof that this box works with CCcam existing emu.

To develop a new emu protocol is one thing , but to make it work with exisiting protocol is another thing for sure.

If AZBOX HD will work with existing CCcam then this will be good
but at same time not only as client , you know what i mean.

Is there any prof for us to see that this realy works with CCcam
some video on youtube will give this box more antettion and possibly more sales to.

cheers

bobi

[xxxAxxx]

yes will connect only as a client that's sure....for now....

[Carp95]

yes will connect only as a client that's sure....for now....


Thats good enough for me, decision is made need 2 boxes:respect-053:

[xxxAxxx]

Qbox will run E2--- sure
Azbox will not run E2 -----costume frimware.... will be only...but still early to say...

[colla]

where are your informations from xxxAxxx?

[Carp95]

Qbox runs E2 yes.......BUTT

The used chipset ("st") will never run gbox or cccam

So that has to be:

1 - Mbox
2 - Incubus


Enigma2 isn't holy for me and it doesn't automaticly means all plugins from DMM will run on it ( I'am shure it won't because off the "st" chip), don't forget that

[x5]

i think u peple r trayng to fool yourself
if what u need is CCCAM them u need to get a DREAMBOX
this 2 receivers wont work with CCCAM
if CCCAM its not important to u them u have 2 new good receivers to get

thats what i thing
hope im wrong :)

[colla]

No we have already bought one
and now we are asking what features this "magic" box will have

I have not do fool myself because i can easily send back the receiver if there are missing features i need

i want to run a cs server on it (i hope based on cccam, or maybe on mbox)
and if this will be a problem than i will buy another box
thats no problem i have enough receivers for looking tv i am not waiting impatiently for it ;)

[pr2]

Hello,

I am curious about this box... I read the PDF and find out that they speak also about DVB-C?

Does it means that the "coax" entry will support both DVB-T and DVB-C?

Thanks,

Pr2

[bobi]

No we have already bought one
and now we are asking what features this "magic" box will have

I have not do fool myself because i can easily send back the receiver if there are missing features i need

i want to run a cs server on it (i hope based on cccam, or maybe on mbox)
and if this will be a problem than i will buy another box
thats no problem i have enough receivers for looking tv i am not waiting impatiently for it ;)


ahahahha try that , try to send it back and you will see

where does it says on the spesifications that this box will run CCcam
if you buy stuf just becouse off CCcam then you beter stop


then if the box it self missess few things that are in the technical reports or if it does not do what is prommised from the producer then you can send back the box.

but i think you cannot send back the box just becouse CCcam does not work :D

cheers

bobi

[colla]

I dont now where you life
but in germany you have the right to send every product back you have bought online within 2 weeks
and you get your money back without any problems


So thats really no problem for me ;)






Edit:

And now to answer on your question before i am going to bed;)

Why i am thinking that cccam works on the Azbox

Because NeotionBox has told us 2 weeks ago


more....

CA Menu.... Channel Selection...

And now i know all of you will ask what is emu support with this box ?!

Tested OK with : CCcam 2.0.9 ( Client ), Gb0x ( Client ), MGCamd ( Gbox client OK, as Internal Emu Ok ), Newcamd and NewCS ( Also OK ).

All working OK.

I tested my C+ Nordic, Cyfra+, C+ NL Card OK...

Wlan streaming also ok...

and of course
yesterday


AzBox have own developed version of CCCam with better protocol usage ( UDP ) and so on....

ok i dont now what he wanted to say with an own developed cccam version

That could be an own patched Version
maybe more Features the possibility to use the card reader without newcs or the better protocol usage ;)


Something i have learned here is that every answer results in 2 more questions ;)
and if neotionbox still isnt bored reading our stupid discussion maybe he will also solve this *g*



But cccam is for me cccam
And i think if he would mean another softcam he would write there will be an Incubuscamd or something other
and not that he has testet cccam 2.0.9 ;)



And the last point
please show me the line in the Dreambox specification where i can find the information that cccam is running on Dreamboxes ;)

I think thats more an unofficially supported feature ;)

[jobusca]

Thank you NeotionBox

as already asked by other members I too would like more details.
you said before that:

Tested OK with : CCcam 2.0.9 ( Client ), Gb0x ( Client ), MGCamd ( Gbox client OK, as Internal Emu Ok ), Newcamd and NewCS ( Also OK ).

You also said that it's a new version of cccam after I asked about it more.
Now I'm more confused.

Is it like incubuscamd?
What about the other cams listed as ok as client?

Are they all azbox's own versions?

More important question is this one regardeless of own version or not:

Will we be able to connect to other emu/servers as clients on dreamboxes/pc linux servers and so on?

If so are there plans to also serve and not just client funcion?

Does the azbox cccam version connect with other protocols like on dreamboxes? Radegast, newcs, camd3 and so on?

I'm asking this because I'm interested on this box and have 2 or 3 other friends waiting to know if they can place an order or not.

Thanks

[Carp95]

Tnx Netionbox for info.:respect-023:

My mind is already made up i'am goona get this box:applause-003:

First box from pruduction-line arrived in the Netherlands :

.mkv 720p play back test 100%
.mkv 1080p play back test 100%

Incl subs and 5.1 sound

Yuotube upscaling is great

@All: no that box isn't @ my house just know the guy wich has it.

[goran]

I thought it supports only 1080i...

How much, please?

[jobusca]

I thought it supports only 1080i...

How much, please?

You are maybe right about the atual output to the tv and of course DVB-S2 supports only upto 1080i but our friend is refering to movie file playback from the hard drive and that file could be at 1080p.
Now I dont know if it's a typing error or not but it would be nice to have it confirmed.

@ neotionbox

Thanks for the reply about emus working as client but as you probably know there is allways more questings.

You said Newcs/newcamd read the card you tested?
Now if that is true then it's servig the cams.
In That case it can serve that way even to outside boxes.
I'm right or wrong?
Thanks

[goran]

Thanx!!! And how much did he pay in the Netherlands, please?

[Carp95]

Thanx!!! And how much did he pay in the Netherlands, please?

Gave me these prices

Elite - single tuner no wifi - between 250 - 280 eur
Premium - twintuner&wifi - between 350 - 380 eur


Note:

The Premium box is deliverd with only 1 tuner inside, additional tuners will be availeble in januari 2009 ( no price known yet ).

[pipino]

1080P !! whats the point when not a single provider transmit in such a format ,and if they will i dont think it will be now ,as there is a major problem with satellites transponders spaces ,and the other side with the actual economic crisis not to many subscribers to pay for it ,here in spain Digital+ have a major problem getting new customers specialy they´v lost the liga rights ,analists says that soon the provider will go bustif it carrys on that way...so 1080P or other fancy format is not a prioriety realy at the moment,on the other side i´v seen phisicaly AZBOX HD unit ,menu looks very nice a silky ,i didnt have a chance to play with it ,,but it looks nice so far!! like neotionbox said no rush to buy it until having proper reports about its performance ...best regards

[voodoo]

Could you please ask him for a original picture?

Does he have the Premium or the Elite-Box?

[jobusca]

Gave me these prices

Elite - single tuner no wifi - between 250 - 280 eur
Premium - twintuner&wifi - between 350 - 380 eur


Note:

The Premium box is deliverd with only 1 tuner inside, additional tuners will be availeble in januari 2009 ( no price known yet ).

The extra tuner can it be another DVB-S2 or does it have to be a DVB-C or DVB-T only?

I was under the impression that on the premium model that it came with twin tuner and we had to choose DVB-S2 + DVB-T/2 or DVB-S2 + DVB-C/2.

In this case we need to add the cost of extra tuner and delivery so we can compare it to other models like ipbox 9000.

In any case seems like a better receiver.

[ceyer]

Don´t get it

Premium - twintuner&wifi - between 350 - 380 eur


Note:

The Premium box is deliverd with only 1 tuner inside, additional tuners will be availeble in januari 2009 ( no price known yet ).

[pr2]

If you look at this screenshot:

Check HERE (http://azbox.nl/CMS/images/stories/anga_2008/azbox_hd_menu3jpg.jpg)

You will see that resolution is 1080p

Pr2

[pipino]

wow what a great picture!!?? even if it has 1080P on option there are no 1080P trasmission anywhere,please give emphasis about other options

[colla]

I would say the 1080p option is for playing 1080p content
Like BluRay Rips ;)

Try to use your fantasy


As someone said
the azbox HD is no receiver its more like a multimedia center

[jobusca]

wow what a great picture!!?? even if it has 1080P on option there are no 1080P trasmission anywhere,please give emphasis about other options

I think what that means is the output to the TV from the receiver for menus and movie files playback is at that quality 1080p and not 1080i like on other receivers like dreamboxes.
That is not an issue and all it means is that if you have a Full HD TV you will at least be able to view movie files at full quality 1080p like blueray discs.

[pipino]

i know all that ,we are talking about sat transmissions are we ??and not blu ray disks or rips if you want to talk about blu ray we better go the correct section of the forum..cheers

[pr2]

i know all that ,we are talking about sat transmissions are we ??and not blu ray disks or rips if you want to talk about blu ray we better go the correct section of the forum..cheers

No, here we are talking about ALL the capabilities of this box. Indeed sat transmission will be for the best 1080i (everybody here interested in Sat HD knows this).

There was a debate to know if yes or not the AZBOX HD Premium is 1080p capable since it is a Media Center and not just a HD STB.

And the answer seems to be yes the AZBOX is 1080p capable and since it is able to read .mkv files, this interesting to know that you can benefits of your files in their full definition.

Cheers,

Pr2

[jobusca]

i know all that ,we are talking about sat transmissions are we ??and not blu ray disks or rips if you want to talk about blu ray we better go the correct section of the forum..cheers

No we are taking about the new AZbox HD and it functions. There is no need for separate thread for every single function that is not about a satellite channel.
This Box is not just for satellite tv.
It's a media center too from the looks of things.
Dreamboxs can read movie files and music as ell as photos but not anywhere as good as what this box promises and it's natural everyone wants to know more without having to go to muitiple threads about the very same receiver.
I'm sure you do understand and just replyied as you did to make a point that you were right about 1080i on sat tv channels and noone has said otherwise.
The reason for 1080p e very much a valid reason as already explained even if it was only for viewing photos at full resolution it would be a good enough reason.
Thanks

[pipino]

when the box will be out , many testers will give a review ;),i may be one of them who knows..i see many different decoders everyday...regards

[xanadu]

The chip used in the box is the same as used in Blu-ray DVD players, and is therefore 1080p compatible.

Until the box is released we cannot be 100% sure that you will be able to play DiVx movies in 1080p on the Azbox HD.

[Carp95]

The extra tuner can it be another DVB-S2 or does it have to be a DVB-C or DVB-T only?

I was under the impression that on the premium model that it came with twin tuner and we had to choose DVB-S2 + DVB-T/2 or DVB-S2 + DVB-C/2.

In this case we need to add the cost of extra tuner and delivery so we can compare it to other models like ipbox 9000.

In any case seems like a better receiver.

Ok standard the Ipbox comes with only 1 tuner too
The shops setup extra future for second tuner ( so price goes up ).

Yes combinations are possible:

S2+S2
S2+T/2
S2+C

Aspected prices off additional tuners I didn,t hear yet but availeble in januari 2009.

For the 1080P issue:

Yes I know that satstreams at it best is 1080I but: very nice to know that it supports 1080P due to blueray rips, first tests gave 1080P with subtitle and 5.1 sound playing very smoot and working 100%.

If you love SAT and HD content you want this Sigma proc

[goran]

I answered it long ago:


2nd tuner possible and will be available in january for about 15-20 eur.
365 is the correct price.

[BE-COOL]

Hi again,

Just to clear few things about 1080p res. As all of us know, and some users already posted that there is no any Satellite channel which is broadcasting in Full HD resolution 1080p. But why 1080p on AzBox HD ?! Simple answer is, this receiver is also IPTV receiver by default, so many users will be also subscribed to their IPTV provider, also if you download .mkv movie you can play it in 1080p, also there is upscalling which is excellent on this box. We know it is better to use 1080i instead of 1080p, so there is AUTO resolution, so every channel will be in 1080i, every full hd mkv file will be in 1080p. It is possible to play DivX or XviD in 1080p, i checked it already. I think one option which all of us will like on this receiver is possibility to add subtitles on AzBox for movie on some satellite channel, this plugin is something like Drtic plugin which is only working on Enigma 1 based receivers....

Also many users asking will this 2 box's be powered by Enigma, NO, they will be not powered by Enigma, because it is so buggy....

Probably, favourite thing is when i got this box, currently i have first testing sample, and i have heard that there is finished box ready....

I unpacked it, i installed disk, i transfered .mkv file, i choose in Home screen Movie, and movie was automatically in list, i pressed enter and i got my 1080p movie on screen wooow ?! Point of this is, that some end user which is not familiar with Linux, commands, telnet and so on, will be able to play movies, mp3, pictures without any need to install additional plugins and so on...

This concept is something new, probably of it's interface, and i like it much more now than any enigma 1 or enigma 2, much more faster on zapping, from FTA to Scrambled, SC to SC, FTA to FTA ...... Samba working by default, web interface.....


That's great, Enigma is the worse sat software I ever tried in a sat receiver, the channel editor is horrible for example... the software of my Clarke Tech 2100 is far better.
A new user friendly and complete linux OS, and new Camds (CCCam is the best so far, but it is not perfect... and a new Camd can replace it) for CS is want we all want in the linux sat scene, the user interface for this receiver, by watching the osd pics, seems very user friendly complete and well build.

AZBox Team seems to be willing to bring something new to linux sat receivers, all others DM competitors are just copying Enigma and don't seem to be interest to inovate this hobby.

Thanks Neotionbox for keeping us updated.

Cheers.

[pipino]

i agree the interface look very nice ,but please remember thanx to enigma we arrived to see those new interfaces we want it or not it has something from it,enigma on DBOX existed for years ...regards

[goran]

Enigma was a great thing, with us for many years, giving us lots and lots of joy!!!!!!!:iagree: Currently my DBox2 PB image 6.01, though, has some bugs [not present in some other images but they have other bugs], which I reported but nowt yet towards cleaning it up [DigiTV scanning issue, channel editing SW issues, indeed and so on]...:banghead:

It would be cool to test this baby and make our own minds, individually. On the face of it, as NB is reporting, I am drooooooollliiinnggggg!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:respect-069:

Bring it on, baby!!!:respect-057:

[Carp95]

It would be cool to test this baby and make our own minds, individually. On the face of it, as NB is reporting, I am drooooooollliiinnggggg!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:respect-069:

Bring it on, baby!!!:respect-057:


Yeahhhh can hardly wait, hope the release will beat the arriving of SANTA :respect-055:

[BE-COOL]

It would be great to see AzBox HD working... if any of you (besta testers) could make a video and upload it to YouTube it would make us happy :)

Cheers.

[Kameleonek]

Could someone submit an original photos (final version) of the front and rear panel ?

[ceyer]

That would be great to see what is left of this former
"top" product.

The decent thing for Azbox would be at least to cut the price for
this receiver again as promised features are not included in the
"final" version.

Just a ridiculous way of promoting a new product-me thinks

[Carp95]

That would be great to see what is left of this former
"top" product.

The decent thing for Azbox would be at least to cut the price for
this receiver again as promised features are not included in the
"final" version.
Just a ridiculous way of promoting a new product-me thinks



Red:
Ok now you have to explain something to me, wich of the so called "promised" features aren't included in the final version???

Blue:

Yes there are excamples enough of that, one compenay is very big in that, there are people waiting 2 years on a box now and it still isn't here.

The Premium is still a twin-tuner with cardreaders on board an common interface what's the promised feature that isn't on the box anymore then?

[ceyer]

E-mail from a shop:

yes it will have one DVB-t and S tuner,
2 cardreaders 2 CI.

This was also written in the data sheet (also in the offer) and confirmed by NeotionBox who does seem to be a betatester.

[Carp95]

Datasheet tells you :

"smart tuner support"

That means you can put in one - ( or in Premium box ) two tuners in any combination

DVB-S2 - DVB-T - DVB-C

What the shop told you is not declared by Azbox ( If you beleave shops I already would have a dm8000 for 1,5 years now.

So features are still there and nothing else.

[Kameleonek]

E-mail from a shop:

yes it will have one DVB-t and S tuner,
2 cardreaders 2 CI.

This was also written in the data sheet (also in the offer) and confirmed by NeotionBox who does seem to be a betatester.

The Premium box is deliverd with only 1 tuner inside, additional tuners will be availeble in januari 2009

Quelle: ng-box und bosnasat

[rafamaja]

Yes ...only 1 tuner inside, 1 cardreaders and 2 CI...:mad:
R.

[goran]

That is not cool, if true... You guys bought it like that [Premium that was advertised as 2 card readers and 2 tuners and only 1 of each came]?:18:

Did you return it and ask for a Premium model, not Elite?:rant:

[Kameleonek]

I ask for premium model, you can see the specifications on the ng-box. There is clearly written:

In/Out Interfaces:

- 2 common Interface
- 1 smart Cardreader

[goran]

I know the specs as it was advertised but I ask what did you personally get...

And did you return it, then?

[Kameleonek]

I specifically asked, and here is the answer


Sie bekommen in dieser version 1x DVB S2 tuner andere werden später einzeln
angeboten zum Kauf.


You get in this version 1x DVB S2 tuner, others are later individually
offered for sale.


WiFi ist in diesem Prototyp (siehe Foto) noch nicht verbaut wird aber Bestandteil sein in der HD Premium.

WiFi is in this prototype (see photo on ng-box) are not yet installed but will be part of the HD Premium.


hallo

die box wird wie folgt ausgeliefert

1x smc
1x ci

mfG
ng-box.com

[Carp95]

OK here it comes:

Opensat can't get enough WIFI modules to put the Premium model in production therefore the release date off the premium model is prosponed to januari 2009.

Additional tuners will be availeble in april/may 2009

Elite model will be availeble 1 week before christmis 2008

source:

Opensat Portugal

So all shops wich goona sell you the premium now, should tell you they can't deliver untill januari 2009.


To all you guys who are angry because off the so called changed specs ( they should read the data sheet from Opensat and not the story's of a reseller):

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY THIS BOX, IT'S A FREE WORLD.

[Carp95]

My info comes directly from a inside source wich where in Portugal yesterday.

We'll see what happens as for me I already have 2 places reserved for these boxes.

I'am a beleaver in this box, persenally I think this is goona be a winner:cup-006:

[geezerpl]

"YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY THIS BOX, IT'S A FREE WORLD"

yeah, good point :-/
let's all buy DM800 crap or IPBox 9000 crap... A world is FULL of CRAP and far from free...

[Carp95]

We will see:
I still stand my ground after talk with inside source.

Don't know where you got the idea of Octogon but thats just a load off rubbish.

I'am a strong beleaver in this box and already ordered my boxes @Azbox.nl ( Yes I want them both)

[jobusca]

@ netionbox.

Can you please just clarify something about cccam on the azbox hd please?

I Understand you said it's azboxe's own version and that is supports cccam in client mode.

My main question is does it support more than one C line at the time?
Does it support R,N and L lines?

Have you tested as client to receive D+, TVcabo and MEO form Hispasat?

I if you need help with connections to test just PM me as I can arrange a line for testing those providers on the azbox hd.

Another question is does it support MPCS? MPCS is used with cccam 2.0.4 to connect newcs with cccam for nagra3 cards like the ones from hispsat.

Thanks again

[norman11]

As i have heard Elite and Premium are ready, in few day's WiFi modules will arrive so, they are ready...
Well I hope your right, coz I want one to....but when are they coming??
Its like.....DM8000 is coming...AZbox is coming.....the trains coming....she's coming....I a coming....and the train's the only one thats got brakes.:hurray::D:D:number-one-043:

[jobusca]

all gone so quiet.
No more info?

Does anybody know if the azbox hd is DVB-API compatible like dreamboxes and Qbox HD?

[colla]

Hää? ;)

What do you mean with DVB-API compatible

The Qbox HD is not compatible to the Dreamboxes

[Kameleonek]

http://i33.tinypic.com/1jn8ur.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/ojdy10.jpg



more info (http://ng-box.com/shop/index.php?file=shop&section=15)

[jobusca]

Hää? ;)

What do you mean with DVB-API compatible

The Qbox HD is not compatible to the Dreamboxes

It's probably one of the most important questions so far.
To understand the meaning of this question please read the posts here:

https://www.satpimps.co.uk/showthread.php?t=96340&highlight=DVB-API&page=2

[goran]

They are getting desperate to tie people to their box against Q and DB:


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[ceyer]

I just cancelled my pre-order.

Look how hideous this box looks now!!

What a rip off-no way will I ever buy something with the AZbox label.

Qbox HD next-but here I´ll wait until it is already out.

[pipino]

fook guys!!! 248post talking about this ghost box and is not out yet ..bit of Patience,let the box go out on sell then see the reviews about it then decide to buy it or not ,realy apart from few fotos and virtual comments i dont see any thing realy positive ..regards

[jobusca]

well some of my key questions about cccam and DVB-API remain to be clarified and at least the one about DVB-API should be clarified before any purchase is made.

IS a specification and anyone when buying or looking to buy has the right to know what the specifications are before paying.

I'm quite sure that neotionbox or someone else here knows or can find out if it supports DVB-API or not.

If it does not then it's a no to the normal CCCam support as that works on dvb-api. Unless there is a re-write of cccam just for azboxhd.

[colla]

Hi NeotionBox
Firefox running thats really interesting

What would be great if there would a possibility to use a Bluetooth Keyboard like
KeySonic ACK-340 BT Keyboard

or without Bluetooth maybe a "normal" wireless Keyboard like
KeySonic ACK-540 RF

[geezerpl]

Now when the final looks of ELITE and PREMIUM has been revealed (and they both look THE SAME) I think I will downgrade my order for 3 units and get ELITE if the only hardware difference between those 2 boxes is:

> onboard WLAN

In many forums there has been news recently that ELITE also allows hdd inside installation (2,5" or 3,5") which previously was reserved for PREMIUM only.

How about tuners and readers / CI ?
Any 100% confirmed differences there ?

[goran]

Turns out QBOX HD is half the price:bravo-009::respect-040: and just as flexible... if not more [3 tuners]:respect-055: plus Enigma II compatible... :respect-044:Hmmmm....:bowing-036::respect-064::bowing-036:

:respect-023:

[jobusca]

Turns out QBOX HD is half the price:bravo-009::respect-040: and just as flexible... if not more [3 tuners]:respect-055: plus Enigma II compatible... :respect-044:Hmmmm....:bowing-036::respect-064::bowing-036:

:respect-023:

And DVB-API compatible like dreamboxes.
More chance of cccam working on it.
But no .mkv video file reading and it's 1080i not P.

[goran]

Both are 1080i, non?

Mkv can come later...

[colla]

Later ...

like other receivers based on the same architecture the qbox hd has not enough power for 1080p and those mkvs

That is a simple hardware limitation

[Tarzan]

Turns out QBOX HD is half the price

Half the price of Dreambox?

[goran]

I may have misread - can't find it now - but I thought it's even [quite a bit] cheaper than AZbox...

The earlier version is around €220. We'll see how much for HD models... with everything "on"...

Really: can't deal with .mkv? Sure about that?:angelsad2:

[jobusca]

I may have misread - can't find it now - but I thought it's even [quite a bit] cheaper than AZbox...

The earlier version is around €220. We'll see how much for HD models... with everything "on"...

Really: can't deal with .mkv? Sure about that?:angelsad2:

QboxHD same price as DM800.
But you get alot more hardware for your money.
No mention of .mkv playback at all but divx plays.

[Asaphus]

Its being sold for € 449.00 at the mo :drool5:.

[goran]

Ahem...:svengo: Just checked and the specs on AZbox really are going down...:001_07: 1 card reader where there used to be 2 etc.:banghead:

Oh, my...:beatdeadhorse5: For more money...:angelsad2:

[xanadu]

I can't understand why people are pre-ordering these new HD-Boxes like Azbox HD and QBox HD, as they are untested, and the release dates just get pushed further and further away, so it's anyones guess when they will be readily available.

Keep your money in the bank for now.

[norman11]

I can't understand why people are pre-ordering these new HD-Boxes like Azbox HD and QBox HD, as they are untested, and the release dates just get pushed further and further away, so it's anyones guess when they will be readily available.

Keep your money in the bank for now.

Bingo...... you got that right......it's all a bloody wind up if you ask me.

Look at the so called delivery date for the DM8000......gone veeeery quite.

It looks like the Duoflab site has got the QBox out.

Tha Azbox site says it's the end of December.:respect-050::20::117::respect-050:

[jobusca]

Bingo...... you got that right......it's all a bloody wind up if you ask me.

Look at the so called delivery date for the DM8000......gone veeeery quite.

It looks like the Duoflab site has got the QBox out.

Tha Azbox site says it's the end of December.:respect-050::20::117::respect-050:

Mabe azbox wants to checkout the competition.
Qbox is not out yet.
Delivery starts from 20-12-2008 acourding to their website shop.

DM8000 has been available in stock for quite a few weeks in UK. There is a shop you can go in and take nearly 900 pounds with you then you walk out with a new dm8000. LoLoL.

I find it hard to confirm cccam running on either azbox or qbox hd.
With the realese date of the qbox hd so soon I would expect a beta tester could confirm it and I would expect more technical info on the azbox hd but neither are available at the moment.

[jobusca]

Well, i have same opinnion like Xanadu, wait for online tests by user's, read all opinnions abut this or other stb's. And I can tell you that in Premium version there is 2 Card Readers, 2 CI, in elite it is different....

AzBox Premium oponnent or concurrent to DreamBox 8000 ( not DM800 !!! )

AzBox Elite is oponnent or concurrent to DreamBox 800 .....

That is real situation, but when both models come out, i am sure that there will be a lot of people which will tell you situation with this box, and that is the best advertise for one Box, if people are satisfied with capabilities of it, i am sure that everybody will buy it...

I am a little bit sceptical with Qbox HD, we saw the image of board, has anybody saw connection on board for 3 Wireless Anntena's ?! And there is a lot of missudenrstanding of that board, for me, now image of Qbox is like refurbished housing of DM800 with same size OLED display, but different housing, also somebody put 3 antennas... There is nothing official from producer and so on.... It is already in shop's but..... there is no any other image or anything else.... The production of this stb's is not so cheap, it is quite expensive.....


Qbox Hd does not look nice at all but looks like a work horse.
An industrial router.

The three antenas is normal because it a wireless N wifi not G. If you look at N standard routers normally have 3 antenas as they can run at 300mbts.

Qbox HD looks good in hardware but not looks. Not quite what you want to have on view in a lounge but if it does the job. If it runs cccam like a dreambox then looks is not that important.
Price seems fair for the hardware included.

[pr2]

Hello,

You seems to have a full box of Premium model.
Does this mean that they will be ready for delivery very soon?

Pr2

[goran]

Nope, it only means he's a dealer...:302: :biggrinjester: :king-041: :cheers2:

[goran]

That's a lot of developer samples, innit? :D Must be suffering from multiple personalities disorder, then...:sifone:

Just kiddin'... Sorry, I misunderstood.

I saw a "rough price" at around €349 in Czech Republic...

Good luck to us all with it...:coolgleamA:

Oh, and F... Dream!!!:party:

[pipino]

i heard the Qbox motherboard is Dm800 clone with some cosmetic changes???!!!! ,regarding AZBOX i did say it before be patient guys

[pr2]

Are you sure that DM800 and QBOX are using the same CPU?
I don't think so, so QBOX is not a clone of DM800... but may be I am wrong...

[x5]

This are developer samples :), not for sale, i am not dealer or nothing like that.... But i have heard that they are available from today... I just can confirm Incubus cam ( CCcam client OK, Gb0x client OK, NewCS client OK, Radegast OK ).

ok now its clear is incubus not pure CCcam
so it will be good to be a CS client box not good for server

grtzz
x5

[geezerpl]

Sweet pics, nice boxes ... shame each shop gives now different delivery dates.

************.pl - 15.12.2008 (!) just Premium model
engisat.com - 15.12.2008 (!) just Elite model
bosnasat - 10-15.01.2009
medinasat - 05.01.2009
locuradigital - PRIMERA SEMANA DE DICIEMBRE ?!

[Wassel]

This are developer samples :), not for sale, i am not dealer or nothing like that.... But i have heard that they are available from today... I just can confirm Incubus cam ( CCcam client OK, Gb0x client OK, NewCS client OK, Radegast OK ).

Disappointing that Azbox HD only works as a CCcam client !! Still no real competitor for DM800/8000. Serious shortcome!!

[goran]

Not at all. Only to some...:respect-050: At least on those grounds...

[drahcirk]

whats wrong with the qbox????????

[Wassel]

whats wrong with the qbox????????

qbox is double the price of Azbox HD!!

[jobusca]

Excatly, in future CCcam as client and server, future - think on few months, but for beginning it is enough to have all CS clients working stable and ok....

Fro, what i know incubus does not support all the features as a client in cccam mode.

Example takem from ipboxes(cube revo):

Only one C line at the time works.
Nagra 3 cards like tv cabo only works if connected to newcamd protocol and not via C line.

This lacks big time on what users expect and want.

Can you please reply to my questiuons asked before on this matter?

How many C lines does it support and does it support N, L and R lines?

I would be happy to recomend this box if it was only in client mode but not if it's incubus version like on Ipboxes.

Thanks

[Wassel]

How many C-lines does it support?

[azboxhd]

Our version support, as i have tested connection to cccam server, and zapping time and reply was excellent with good result opened channel ;) . As you know AzBox use Sigma chipset instead of STi .... And this version as i know is compiled and specially prepared for AzBox...

How is the play for HD MKV movies and... is it the same quality like Popcornhour ?

[jobusca]

Tested two connection in same time on two different servers !!!

To Me it's very important to know if it supports all encryptions like on the proper cccam version.
Nagra3 3 and 2 form providors like Digital+ and Tv cabo as hispsat.
NDS
Seca 2 like MEO at hispasat and Digital+ at Astra 19e.

If you need likes to test just need to PM me.

[BE-COOL]

If MBox leaves beta stage and gain stability and the abillity to read the cards directly without the need of NewCS, I can live without CCCam.


Cheers.

[digihoe]

I like that this is built with the Sigma Designs chip, they have always made really high quality chips... Wonder if it could be turned into a BluRay player (I mean disc player, with correct keys and such)...

I would really like uPnP (dlna) server/client that the Qbox will have in the Azbox...

STi HD recivers can be found from 140 euro, so the prices I think must come down some more...

Just my two cents...

[bluepeter]

will it support Evocamd for a cable tuner?

Regards
Blue

[cacul]

I have one question.
How quickly switches Azbox HD Premium channels.

Not coded
SD -> SD - x,x s.
SD -> HD - x,x s.
HD -> HD - x,x s.
HD -> SD - x,x s.

:o16: :o15:

[hash]

Hello, I am new here. Just registered to get more infos about the Azbox HD.

I am also interested in the zapping times, could it be possible to upload a video which shows it?
A further point is the power consumption in standby mode.

Thank you

[spikes]

@NeotionBox
Does it also support gbox?
Regards

[geezerpl]

See post #281
and earlier...

[digihoe]

UPnP already supported :)

People just cool down, wait and see, i think there will be videos on youtube and so on.... Nobody can force you to buy something what is bad or not working, for me is best to wait nothing else....

Great news! Can it act as a uPnP server also? Would be great for recording.

This box looks better and better...

[BE-COOL]

They are looking for beta testers from CZ and SK

_http://www.azbox.eu/

Quote:

"BETA testers from CZ and SK are welcome :
Your contact , c.v. and knowledge ... to email : beta@azbox.eu
Only from long time users of Linux STB etc...
Free of charge BETA samples are limited !"



Free beta samples??! Ohh just thinking about the beta samples from Dream Multimedia DM8000 almost costing 1000€


Cheers.

[goran]

Hehe, that's the one I saw and mentioned earlier...

[BE-COOL]

Sweet pics, nice boxes ... shame each shop gives now different delivery dates.

************.pl - 15.12.2008 (!) just Premium model
engisat.com - 15.12.2008 (!) just Elite model
bosnasat - 10-15.01.2009
medinasat - 05.01.2009
locuradigital - PRIMERA SEMANA DE DICIEMBRE ?!

In the portuguese online sat stores the release date for the Elite model is next monday (15/12/2008), the premium model will only arrive next year.

The price is 289€

Engisat
lmpcsatelite
Kontrolsat

and others


Cheers.

[spikes]

See post #281
and earlier...
I can see gbox client but does it also support gbox server?

[pipino]

@Neotionbox

could you do some tests with youtube and BBC iPLAYER ,i appreciate your feedback..cheers

[goran]

How can I get a test model m8? Any firms in Scandinavia or the UK that are partners in this worthy exercise?:D

[pipino]

Sorry dont understand your wishes....

For Monday, probably Tuesday all of you will be possible to see Incubus and MGcamd test on AzBox :)

i understand Azbox HD can play youtube videos thru a media player ,can you check how good is it???

[uki]

can anyone tell me how the sd pictures compare to other receivers especially kathrein ufs 910 which has the best sd pictures i have ever seen
thanks in advance

[pipino]

what about BBC iPlayer??

[ceyer]

I think he´s outside the UK so he can´t test this

[dreambox17]

can anyone tell me how the sd pictures compare to other receivers especially kathrein ufs 910 which has the best sd pictures i have ever seen
thanks in advance

Also the best hd pictures out there by far on the kathrein

i too would be interested to see pic quality on the az box

[dniestre]

does it supports blind scan?

[xanadu]

Also the best hd pictures out there by far on the kathrein

i too would be interested to see pic quality on the az box

If it upscales to 1080p it could be good?

Does Azbox HD upscale SD? and to what resolution?

[digihoe]

Since it´s Sigma designs chip, then I think we will not be unhappy with the picture quality, SD or HD...