Pace hd receiver

[bobbydee]

I use a tm 9100 most of the time but use my pace to watch bbc hd or premiere hd.I updated my dragoncam with predator 3.66 biss 20.3.08 and I cannot receive premiere hd or premiere direct.Sport portal is fine.Anyone else having problems.

[bobbydee]

Fixed it.I hooked up a spare tm 1500 I had,set up usuals and picked up all the hd and direct channels looped out to my pace.I put ur 11 back on my tm 9100 instead of ur 12 and signal strength a lot better.I was using ur 12 but the signal strength jumped about a bit.

[bobbydee]

Problem with the premiere hd channel now.Shows invalid cam over picture and no sound.Does anyone have a version of predator which worrks with dragoncam.

[little devil]

I had that problem also :( so I have bought the Humax icord Hd and no more problems anymore :) it must be a pace thing

[sparky_dog]

Yes, definitely a Pace problem, also does it with Diablo. It used to do this on Discovery HD, but now Discovery is okay and Premiere HD is now kaput on Pace. Premiere have switched something...

[little devil]

indeed, thinking on puting the pace on e-bay shame good receiver good picture

[wsm25]

Does the pace work fine (no invalid err message) for Suisse HD ? with either Dragon or Diablo ?


Thanks

[sparky_dog]

It used to work no problem with Diablo, but I haven't watched it for a while.

Is HD Suisse still open?

[koshba]

Yes, definitely a Pace problem, also does it with Diablo. It used to do this on Discovery HD, but now Discovery is okay and Premiere HD is now kaput on Pace. Premiere have switched something...


Hi mate,have you managed to tune all channels off thor 1 west,ive got a diablo coming in the morning and cant seem to pick up the hd and most of the channels,any ideas mate,thanks.I must be doing something wrong somewhere or is it the pace?

[sparky_dog]

Hi mate,have you managed to tune all channels off thor 1 west,ive got a diablo coming in the morning and cant seem to pick up the hd and most of the channels,any ideas mate,thanks.I must be doing something wrong somewhere or is it the pace?

All channels tuned in okay on Thor, but did all the transponders manually as the transponder list in the machine is rubbish. Get the frequencies and SRs from lyngsat and use 'Frequency' scan.

Diablo with UW1.06 working and clearing Conax in the Pace, but three of the HD channels (Film HD, Silver HD, TV4HD) give the same problem as with Premiere HD above - no sound and the blue 'Invalid CI module' banner. No fix I'm afraid.

[koshba]

Hi mate,thanks for coming back to that was quick,did what you said mate will try again,thanks again will report back,does the discovery and national geo look good ?

[sparky_dog]

Hi mate,thanks for coming back to that was quick,did what you said mate will try again,thanks again will report back,does the discovery and national geo look good ?

Absolutely corking. Despite all its faults, the Pace does produce a fantastic picture. History HD is fab too.

[xanadu]

Last time I tried my Pace with Diablo on 1W, the channels decoded for 10 seconds, and then black screen, so was totally useless. Not tried it with 1.06 yet.

[koshba]

Absolutely corking. Despite all its faults, the Pace does produce a fantastic picture. History HD is fab too.

Looking forward to it once i manage to get all the channels scanned,thanks

[sparky_dog]

Last time I tried my Pace with Diablo on 1W, the channels decoded for 10 seconds, and then black screen, so was totally useless. Not tried it with 1.06 yet.

Cam support is still pretty lumpy with the Pace, it can take a bit of fiddling about to get it to work. Make sure you have the latest v1.0.35 firmware on the Pace. I have found UW to be more stable than Stealth on the Pace, although I have seen some reports where they haven't been able to make Stealth work at all.

In order to get UW to work, make sure you insert the cam whilst on a FTA channel, then go to an encrypted channel which clears quickly, like one of the Conax or Prem channels. If no pic, try another channel in the same package, see if it clears. If no joy, then go back to a FTA channel and remove cam, wait for a few seconds, re-insert cam and try again.

Once its working, don't touch it, don't unplug the receiver - it will keep working. Its not as bad as it sounds, it usually works first time for me with UW, but you do occasionally have this performance when you update the cam.

[koshba]

Sparky mate,i have managed all but these frecs
11341V 25000
11309V 24500
11229H 24500
11216V 24500
12399H 28000
11434V 25000
11421H 25000
was up till 1AM fiddling mate dont know whats wrong not 1 single hd channels got all the rest i think,any ideas mate please,thanks

[sparky_dog]

Sparky mate,i have managed all but these frecs
11341V 25000
11309V 24500
11229H 24500
11216V 24500
12399H 28000
11434V 25000
11421H 25000
was up till 1AM fiddling mate dont know whats wrong not 1 single hd channels got all the rest i think,any ideas mate please,thanks

Right, I'm looking at lyngsat now, with the Pace on, see what I can get.

I have all those freqs above tuned, apart from 12399H, which is not listed on lyngsat for Canal Dig?

What's your signal strength like on these TPs? Look at the Antenna tuning menu.

[sparky_dog]

12399H is still on Thor3 Nordic Beam, you'll struggle to receive it if you're in the UK.

Not part of Canal Dig package, but there are a few other Canal TPs on this beam.

[koshba]

Sorry mate its me again,cant seem to get the hd 1s
11341v 25000 3/4
11421h 25000 3/4
11434h 25000 3/4
just wierd got the others thanks,gotta keep trying its the only reason for getting the cam to be honest.

[sparky_dog]

Whereabouts are you?

If you're in southern Europe, you've had it for the HD as they are all on the new T1 beam.:frown:

[koshba]

yep looks like a signal problem mate,iam in the midlands uk,what a shame,thank you very very much for your help my friend.

[sparky_dog]

yep looks like a signal problem mate,iam in the midlands uk,what a shame,thank you very very much for your help my friend.

I can't be far away from you (in the East Mids), I have no problem with the T1 beam on a 80cm. In good weather, you would get away with smaller.

Make sure the dish is lined up for the other Thor TPs, you won't see the HD ones on Antenna tuning because the SR is wrong.

There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to pull the HD TPs in.

[koshba]

doin me head in now :(.

[sparky_dog]

Do you want me to post the exact settings I used for frequency scan?

I've just done a rescan of 11341V, and it's seeing the carrier okay.

[koshba]

when i do a search i get a msg saying
no information table (PAT)
yes please mate,thanks

[sparky_dog]

when i do a search i get a msg saying
no information table (PAT)
yes please mate,thanks

It's seeing a signal from the transponder then, it just doesn't like it.

Can I ask what software version you have on the Pace? Some changes were made to scanning with the last update - you should be on v1.0.35. You can check sofware version number on menu option 1.2 'System'.


Anyway, this is how I search 11341V...

Go to menu option 2.1 Channel Search.

Set options as below...

Scanning mode - FREQUENCY
Satellite - THOR 0.8W
Frequency - 11341
Polarisation - VERTICAL
Symbol Rate - 25000 (changed from default of 24500)
Filter - ALL CHANNELS

Then hit 'OK' to start scan. Good Luck!

[sparky_dog]

The weather is knocking my reception out at the minute on 80cm dish.:frown:

[koshba]

here i think my dish needs elevation adjusting mate,gonna try and get up there later today,will let you know how i get on,thanks again.

[koshba]

right off up the ladder now frec 11278 is up and down more on yellow than green so not good,elevation correction time.

[sparky_dog]

I'm currently getting solid green here, about 75% on 11278V, that's with a 80cm so you should be aiming for better than that with a 110cm.

[koshba]

Hi mate getting 95% on 11278v still cant get the hd 1s wierd,thinking of doing a factory reset and starting all over again.

[sparky_dog]

What software version do you have in the Pace?

[koshba]

same as you sparky

[sparky_dog]

I have no idea why yours doesn't work. If yours is on v1.0.35, and you have 95% signal, there's no reason I can see why you can't scan the HD transponders using the settings above.

Perhaps a factory reset is worth a try?

[koshba]

thanks mate all in now,i will get there eventualy,3rd time programming the cam now keeps saying invalid ci module :(

[sparky_dog]

You'll get used to seeing that error message.

Follow the instructions I posted earlier regarding cam insertion, and it should work.

[dave859]

if there not scaning in try a NIT scan and put the frequency in there

[xanadu]

Follow the instructions I posted earlier regarding cam insertion, and it should work.

Did not work for me. :mad:

[koshba]

Did not work for me. :mad:

not working here either,do i need to add keys with the cas or just load the underworld patch only??

[sparky_dog]

not working here either,do i need to add keys with the cas or just load the underworld patch only??

I reformat the cam, then load UW 1.06... no need to load a keys.bin, although all the keys have to AU. The only other thing you need to do is in Diablo Configuration menu, make sure

AUTO PMT, EMULATORS, N2 AU are all [ON]
EMULATORS PRIORITY is set to [1:EMU 2:CARDS]
SHOW MESS. is set to [Show Never].

I know someone else tried all sorts to get the cam to work in the Pace, and just couldn't get it to work... I honestly don't know why it doesn't seem to work in all Pace boxes. The way I explained is the only way I can get the cam to work reliably in the Pace - its working now, and I haven't had to touch it for days. It can be a bit of fiddling about to coax it to work... if it doesn't work first time, you have to repeat the process, sometimes several times.

I would add something else. On occasions, the cam will just not work no matter what I do - usually the Pace doesn't give the 'Invalid CI module' message at all in that case, it will either give no message or even 'No CI Module Inserted'. A power-off reboot usually fixes this problem.

Hope you can get it going after all this!:smash:

[koshba]

morning mate,i have the cas 2,after programmimg i set all as u say above and left it on history all night,nothing.tried formating gives me error,i think iam destined not to have it :(

[sparky_dog]

tried formating gives me error

That can't be right.

Initially, I tried to just update with UW over Stealth, it would not work until I had formatted the cam with CAS3+. Before formatting, it gave the same 'Invalid CI module' message you are seeeing on all channels.

You need to concentrate on formatting the cam. Are you using latest CAS Studio 8.3a software?

[sparky_dog]

Also, you should see Conax channels clear after a few seconds only.

[koshba]

Hi mate,when i put the cam in the pace it gives me all menus etc so iam assuming its programmed right,iam going to try and format it and see if it does it this time.thanks

[sparky_dog]

Hi mate,when i put the cam in the pace it gives me all menus etc so iam assuming its programmed right,iam going to try and format it and see if it does it this time.thanks

I could get into the menus, but nothing would clear without reformatting first.

It threw me for a bit.:redface:

[koshba]

programming the file again will not format.Many others have done it with the cas2 why isnt it working for me errr.

[sparky_dog]

I don't think you'll get it to work without a reformat.

Are you using CAS Studio 8.3a?

[sparky_dog]

I think this is a CAS2 issue I've heard of before. Try this if you are getting 'Format Error'...

Select 'Format' from the 'CAM Disk functions' tab. You see the 'Format Error' message.
Then go to 'Cam File System' tab and click 'Connect'. CAM should then format, takes a few minutes.
Then update with UW. Remember to alter Config settings again.

[koshba]

thanks mate i will try that,cheers.

[koshba]

Atlast :) after about 9 times programming,dont know why,thanks sparky for all your help mate,now time to get my head round adding key bins.

[sparky_dog]

Great stuff!:cool:

You shouldn't need keys.bin at the moment, everything is AU. Some of them take a while...

[koshba]

Hi mate,just digi and prem will do me now.

[sparky_dog]

If you watch Prem and see freezing and/or intermittant 'Invalid CI' messages, I would advise turning N2 AU off once the keys have updated, to prevent freezing on the Pace. Turn back on to update keys when necessary.

Digi takes quite a while to update keys, sometimes 5-10 minutes.

[koshba]

blummin gone all together now :(.i realy dont want to buy a cas 3.had all three.

[koshba]

what a bag of crap this pace is,got 2.3 now was up till 1am trying to get it to work,gonna connect my old echostar 808 up and try and activate the cam,never had anything like it :confused:

[xanadu]

2.3 Diablo does not work with the Pace.

I have also tried.

[koshba]

strange it worked with 2.2,iam sure sparky mate has it working.

[sparky_dog]

Haven't upgraded to v2.3, but old Diablo still works in Pace apart from the well do***ented problems.

Having said that, I've had enough of the Pace. I have now aquired a Topfield tf7700, and Diablo works perfectly in this... there are some things which I prefer on the Pace, but the Topfield seems rock solid with cams.

[satwyn]

I also had trouble with diablo and cas2 would not format but I also managed in the end cam file system then connect now all ok

[koshba]

I also had trouble with diablo and cas2 would not format but I also managed in the end cam file system then connect now all ok
Satwyn are you using the pace 810xe??

[koshba]

just updated the cam in my old old echostar dsb808 and took only 5 seconds working no problem,god knows why it wont work in the pace,just wanted the hd channels thats the only reason why i got the bloomin cam.

[sparky_dog]

You haven't had much luck with the Pace, koshba.:frown:

Mine's currently retired now I have the Topfield... can't decide whether to upgrade to v2.3 diablo or not...

[koshba]

Hi Sparky mate,would you say the topfield picture is as good as the pace mate??

[sparky_dog]

Hi koshba.

It's hard to tell on a 32" screen, but HD looks perfect, upscaling maybe not quite as good, but very close.

There are a few things which I'm not totally happy with, the OSDs aren't as nice as the Pace, diseqc motor tuning is a bit clunky, and there isn't a 16:9 zoom function on 1080i output - which is a bit of a pain as my TV can't scale HD inputs. Also, you don't get any indication of the encryption type, and there seems to be a 3500 TV channel limit when tuning, so you have to filter out the chaff.

However, the Topfield works 100% problem-free with Diablo, has PVR function to external USB2 HDD, and the favourites lists work much better than the Pace, as does the EPG. You can also download channel/sat/transponder editing software.

Despite the minor drawbacks, it seems to work very well.

[koshba]

Hi ya mate,thanks for that,too many bugs with the pace,2.2 worked eventualy just wierd why 2.3 doesnt,time to put it aside and look for a diff box now DM800 sounds good but the IPBOX sounds better but tooooo pricey atm,thanks for all your help mate,will keep you upto date as to what i go for.

[mastercare]

well maybe some good news from pace...looks like they will be doing another firmware update soon...mainly for ITV Hd jst had a reply from them today..thought i would share with u guys...it reads
Hello
Thank you for your email however I do not believe other manufacturers have released any new updates especially to get this channel.

It appears this channel is being broadcast with vital bits of information missing which prevents any FTA STB receiving it. Some STB can manually add this information using channel editor programmes and then downloading this back into the box. However this is not straight forward and you need a PC connected to the STB and a channel editor program needs to be available.

We are currently looking into other ways of enabling our box to see this stream.

Best Regards
Customer Front Office
Pace Micro Technology plc

Enabling Digital.
Our Vision is to be the biggest supplier worldwide of digital gateway technology.
Victoria Road, Saltaire, West Yorkshire. BD18 3LF www.pace.co.uk

cheers

[xanadu]

Update will be in a years time then. :cool:

[koshba]

Just ordered a fortec passion hd,hopefully this will solve my problem.

[xanadu]

Just ordered a fortec passion hd,hopefully this will solve my problem.

I am happy with my Fortec, untill I get a AZbox HD as I want to record HD and other stuff.

[satwyn]

fortec will work ok for you with latest channel list bbc hd and itv fine also ok with cams tested with dragon and diablo

[koshba]

Excelent thanks guys,hopefuly tuesday or wednesday should be here,did read somewhere that future release of firmware might have 4.2.2 and blind scan added,you never know.

[koshba]

The waiting is killing me for this fortec,tracked the order at dhl and its on the van today but no knock on the door yet

[koshba]

Didnt want to start a new thread,got my passion yesterday loaded and follwed all instruction posted here and all is great,just what the doctor ordered nice and easy to use,diablo sly card working perfect and 1 west and 16e fantastic,thanks to every1 for there help.
thanks sparky :)

[sparky_dog]

No prob.:)

It's nice to have a box which actually works, isn't it!

[weeted]

Hello
Thank you for your email.

To receive the complete freesat service, i.e. the EPG, interactive services and channels you require a freesat branded set top box. We can not provide a software update to make the DS810XE a freesat box.

However most of the channels that broadcast in the freesat service can already be received by the DS810XE, only channels that are deliberately hidden would not be receivable by the DS810XE.

The ITV HD is broadcast as a stream and not a channel so can not be received by this box.

I hope this helps
Best Regards
Customer Front Office
Pace plc
Bringing Technology Home
Victoria Road, Saltaire, West Yorkshire, BD18 3LF, United Kingdom.

[pipino]

Hello
Thank you for your email.

To receive the complete freesat service, i.e. the EPG, interactive services and channels you require a freesat branded set top box. We can not provide a software update to make the DS810XE a freesat box.

However most of the channels that broadcast in the freesat service can already be received by the DS810XE, only channels that are deliberately hidden would not be receivable by the DS810XE.

The ITV HD is broadcast as a stream and not a channel so can not be received by this box.

I hope this helps
Best Regards
Customer Front Office
Pace plc
Bringing Technology Home
Victoria Road, Saltaire, West Yorkshire, BD18 3LF, United Kingdom.


this PACE company is realy sitting on a pile of horse s hit ,they are MURCOCK slaves :mad::mad:, ok we forget about freesat ,what about the other issues ,most HD channels have a nasty freez problems ,i´v send them tons of emails about it ,an the only crap they come out with is we are about to release a new software..what a bunch of losers.....out