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Murco
25-09-2008, 11:41 AM
Hello All,

I have been watching footy on 8 West I have noticed the signal starts to drop I then lose the picture. Can anyone confirm whether this bird is inclined?

Thanks for your help.

equalizer
25-09-2008, 12:24 PM
Telecom 2D is inclined at 7.8w.

If the feed is between 11459 - 11694 then its on 2d and inclined.

Check here for 2d freqs:
http://www.lyngsat.com/tele2d.html

and here for current inclination:
http://www.lyngsat.com/tracker/tele2d.html

back again
25-09-2008, 01:55 PM
that the first time i've noticed that it was inclined, as i never seem to have a problem with the satellite

ManikM
25-09-2008, 05:53 PM
how bigs ya dish!?

satwyn
25-09-2008, 06:07 PM
with inclined orbit dish size is not the only factor ordinary polar mounts will not track these

Murco
26-09-2008, 09:22 AM
Thanks everybody for your replies - I have a 1.2 Channel Master using
36v 1224 Supermount.

Inclined - does this mean if the signal drops I just need to move and raise the dish slightly to bring in the signal?

Many thanks.

equalizer
26-09-2008, 09:55 AM
Yes and No.

Yes it is just a case of lowering or raising your dish in line with current inclination found here:
http://www.lyngsat.com/tracker/tele2d.html

But NO you shouldn't as it will completely mess up your arc unless you put it back exactly where it was before to get the dish back on the arc.

The best thing you can do for an inclined satellite is:

Have a dedicated dish for that satellite only.This means you can move it up and down whenever you want.
Get a dual-axis special mount that can deal with azimuth and elevation tracking.These are quite rare, but I do remember seeing them online.



Thanks everybody for your replies - I have a 1.2 Channel Master using
36v 1224 Supermount.

Inclined - does this mean if the signal drops I just need to move and raise the dish slightly to bring in the signal?

Many thanks.

Murco
26-09-2008, 11:47 AM
Thanks for your advice

moonbase
26-09-2008, 06:00 PM
Murco,

Your Jaeger 1224 motor and mount is purpose built to allow dual axis inclined orbit tracking. All you need to do is to get the elevation kit which updates the Jaeger for dual axis inclined orbit tracking.

The items you need are:
a) An 8" optical actuator
b) Superjack EZ2000 positioner
c) The stock item fitting brackets to upgrade to dual axis inclined orbit elevation
d) The correct length of control cable for the 8" oprical actuator.

The Superjack EZ2000 positioner has a display counter that will let you know how much you have altered the elevation and that will allow you to always get back to your correct arc.

You should be able to get the lot for less than £100 and you are fixed. There is no need for any fancy malarky bollix stuff, this does the job perfect and is rock steady on a big dish.

Rgds

ManikM
26-09-2008, 11:11 PM
blimey - how do you know all this? AND what a load of hassle it sounds!! i'd rather miss the game

LOL!

but RESPECT!!!

satwyn
27-09-2008, 06:58 AM
Murco,

Your Jaeger 1224 motor and mount is purpose built to allow dual axis inclined orbit tracking. All you need to do is to get the elevation kit which updates the Jaeger for dual axis inclined orbit tracking.

The items you need are:
a) An 8" optical actuator
b) Superjack EZ2000 positioner
c) The stock item fitting brackets to upgrade to dual axis inclined orbit elevation
d) The correct length of control cable for the 8" oprical actuator.

The Superjack EZ2000 positioner has a display counter that will let you know how much you have altered the elevation and that will allow you to always get back to your correct arc.

You should be able to get the lot for less than £100 and you are fixed. There is no need for any fancy malarky bollix stuff, this does the job perfect and is rock steady on a big dish.

Rgds that is spot on also a diseq actuator arm could be used for elevation I think they make a 12inch version there used to be a technomate that would do all this and also the chapparal M60 analouge

bobbyboil
27-09-2008, 10:54 AM
or get an irte omnisat motor, which does horizontal and vertical movements

satwyn
27-09-2008, 11:15 AM
or get an irte omnisat motor, which does horizontal and vertical movements not easy to find what receiver would you use with the omnisat were they only used with the old analogue systems

moonbase
27-09-2008, 11:29 AM
ManikM,

I know it because it is in my interest to know it and it takes about 45 minutes to set up. There is no hassle in setting this type of tracking up and it is the perfect solution for inclined orbit tracking outside of the commercial domain.

One commercial option would be to use an RC2000C dual axis tracking controller that has predefined algorithms stored in memory that "autojog" the dish to keep a constant lock on the satellite without any intervention from the end user. These cost around £1800 GBP but can be picked up 2nd user for approx £700. They will auto track up to 20 inclined orbit satellites and are very good even though they are expensive for a "home enthusiast".

Rgds

bobbyboil
27-09-2008, 11:40 AM
omnisat works fine with my clarke tech ct5000 combo

think thats a digital receiver and hd